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On 1/7/11 5:30 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In , says... On 1/7/11 4:22 PM, I am Tosk wrote: You are right, I am choppy and scarey to race around... That's why I didn't race the final races this season after the injury. I was out of form and my friends didn't need a "weekend warrior" on the track while they battled out a three way virtual tie for first place. Now Jessi is another story.. One day A.J. Catanzaro (DAGS) was training riders at our home track. He kept pointing at Jessi as she came by the group during the day and later I asked him what they were watching. He said, "I was showing them what smooth looked like". Jessi was thrilled when she asked him the same question later.. A.J. is known for smooth, nobody does it better... Well, maybe Tony;) A.J. currently races for GPF and has been flying back and fourth to Germany for Supercross where he is on the podium every week, and at age 16 is the reigning (US) National Arenacross Champion... ;) Yeah, I will let him judge Jessi, not some vulgar old fart who wouldn't know a spoke from a sparkplug...;) If you are a serious racer, the only judge that counts is the checkered flag. How many does your team have? Is your racer competing against the 16-year-old wunderkind? How is she faring? Are they about the same age? So, now you care about serious racing? Pfffftttt.... \ What makes you think *I* care about kiddie motorbike racing? You were touting your racing team, then you mentioned a hot kid racer and then you mentioned judging. That's why i mentioned the checkered flag. So how many checkered flags has your team won when competing with the hot kid racers? |
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On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 09:27:24 -0500, "A.True.Boater" wrote: On 1/7/11 9:14 AM, I am Tosk wrote: And anybody who has raced knows if you are going off the road, hit the gas and get that back end between you and the guardrail. I did this without even thinking about it a few years back when I hit the ice in my Wrangler... I slid long enough to know I wasn't catching it, so as I came around I stayed in the throttle t There are advantages of front wheel drive which include Lower cost - you have reduced the cost of the driveshaft and additional hardware. The has an advantage of providing better fuel economy due to weight reduction. Cabin Space You have increased the space inside of the car, by removing the drivetrain Traction - with the weight of the engine over the drive wheels you can have better traction in slippery conditions That being said, there are many automotive enthusiasts and engineers who agree with you that front wheel drive sucks. Auto design like boat design is a series of compromises. Auto manufacturers like it because the whole drive train comes in on a pallet and they slam it in in one piece. With standardized mounting points it becomes a commodity item. That is why you see so few engines these days. Reply: They also like it as you have a flat floorpan. Ease of interior design and more legroom in a smaller car. More wear on the front wheels as they are both steering and powering. Means more traction required in the same conditions for the front tires. More complicated transmission to wheel coupling. But is quicker to assemble as a complete car. No drive shafts to connect, no extra transmission to install. But I do not mind driving a front wheel drive car, but would be much harder to drift in a turn. Plus all of the front wheel drive cars I have owned, including the newest a 2009 Venza all torque steer. |
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On 1/6/11 1:39 PM, MMC wrote: "Harryk" wrote in message ... On 1/6/11 11:00 AM, YukonBound wrote: "Harryk" wrote in message ... On 1/3/11 11:49 PM, Tim wrote: I haven't seen where smaller trucks are really that great of a savings compared to their bigger counter parts, Especially if you plan on really using them. It depends on how you plan to use a truck. I no longer have a trailer boat so I don't need a full-sized truck to tow a heavy boat. The smaller trucks are...smaller...and therefore easier to park, easier to maneuver, a little easier on the gas. Most of the time the "stuff" my wife buys at the garden shops and other stores will easily fit into a smaller truck. The other times, the "stuff" is too large for even a full-size pickup truck. I happened to park next to a new Toyota Tundra the other day, and thought that truck was just humongous. I owned a Tundra some years ago; it was significantly smaller than the current models. The new trucks do seem way too big for a city dwelling weekend warrior. I did have the Ranger for three years , but I have mixed feelings about them. I could never claim to be tall in a newsgroup where every second poster claims to be 6' 4" and weighing 230 or so .................... but on the other hand, if you stood me next to Scotty.................. anyway, they jack the Rangers up.. even the 2WD versions and seem to compress the cab height so you have to sit in a lower seat that say, a mini-van or even a RAV4. I found the seat of firm foam uncomfortable for a couple of months and even called the salesman to see if I could unload the Ranger and move up to a F150. He told me to wait and the foam would conform to my shape.. and he was mostly right. If I was in the market today, I'd take advantage of the great sales Ford has been offering and try to find a short wheelbase regular cab F150. (6.5 foot box). That's all I would need the vast majority of the time and I could always put a cap over the box to accommodate the dog. I had a Ranger and an F150. Both were good trucks, as was my Tundra. I've eliminated the Chrysler and GM small trucks; they don't do much for me. That leaves Toyota and Ford, I guess. I need to take a test drive in the Toyota Tacoma 4x4 small truck. ====== The vehicle of choice for international projects in the crapholes of the world with the worst terrain and minimal support is the Toyota Hylux (called the Tacoma here) and the Hardtop Land Cruiser. Difference is diesel engines, winches, roo guards and roll bars, HF radios, no fluff and lots of spare tires. The Land Rover 110 used to be the hot ticket but the Toyotas are a lot more dependable and handle a lot better. We had Nissan PUs on a project in Southern Africa and Rangers in Kosovo and neither held up. Back after Desert Storm, we had F250s and Nissan Patrols (not offered here) and both held up great in that environment. Unfortunately, the Tacoma/HiLux is not available here with a diesel, nor in Canada, apparently. The new diesels are the future for trucks and SUV's. |
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"Harryk" wrote in message ... On 1/6/11 11:00 AM, YukonBound wrote: "Harryk" wrote in message ... On 1/3/11 11:49 PM, Tim wrote: I haven't seen where smaller trucks are really that great of a savings compared to their bigger counter parts, Especially if you plan on really using them. It depends on how you plan to use a truck. I no longer have a trailer boat so I don't need a full-sized truck to tow a heavy boat. The smaller trucks are...smaller...and therefore easier to park, easier to maneuver, a little easier on the gas. Most of the time the "stuff" my wife buys at the garden shops and other stores will easily fit into a smaller truck. The other times, the "stuff" is too large for even a full-size pickup truck. I happened to park next to a new Toyota Tundra the other day, and thought that truck was just humongous. I owned a Tundra some years ago; it was significantly smaller than the current models. The new trucks do seem way too big for a city dwelling weekend warrior. I did have the Ranger for three years , but I have mixed feelings about them. I could never claim to be tall in a newsgroup where every second poster claims to be 6' 4" and weighing 230 or so .................... but on the other hand, if you stood me next to Scotty.................. anyway, they jack the Rangers up.. even the 2WD versions and seem to compress the cab height so you have to sit in a lower seat that say, a mini-van or even a RAV4. I found the seat of firm foam uncomfortable for a couple of months and even called the salesman to see if I could unload the Ranger and move up to a F150. He told me to wait and the foam would conform to my shape.. and he was mostly right. If I was in the market today, I'd take advantage of the great sales Ford has been offering and try to find a short wheelbase regular cab F150. (6.5 foot box). That's all I would need the vast majority of the time and I could always put a cap over the box to accommodate the dog. I had a Ranger and an F150. Both were good trucks, as was my Tundra. I've eliminated the Chrysler and GM small trucks; they don't do much for me. That leaves Toyota and Ford, I guess. I need to take a test drive in the Toyota Tacoma 4x4 small truck. I sat in the Tacoma cab while having my RAV4 serviced and found that the windshield cut off too low. I felt like the roof was caving in on me..... and the seating is low, similar to the Ranger. Too bad that Honda Ridgeline is so expensive. It might be a good choice for a light, mid-sized pickup. Too expensive? Think of what you would save in time getting the recalls fixed. |
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On Jan 6, 12:39 pm, wrote: The Land Rover 110 used to be the hot ticket but the Toyotas are a lot more dependable and handle a lot better. The old one liner: "Did you hear about the guy that bought a new Land Rover and it didn't leak any oil so he kept taking it back and hounding the dealer till they got it right?" They have come a long way and the price tag will prove that! |
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On 1/7/11 7:53 AM, I am Tosk wrote: In , payer3389 @mypacks.net says... On 1/6/11 10:25 PM, I am Tosk wrote: I still hate front wheel drive.. Just doesn't make sense to have the steering and drive on the same axle, Please explain. Pffftttt... Yeah, I kinda figured *that* was the lack of thought underpinning your absurd statement, "Just doesn't make sense to have the steering and drive on the same axle." Fortunately, Alec Issigonis wouldn't have paid any attention to you back then, and no automotive engineer would pay any attention to you today. But, hey, go ahead...go through life wallowing in your ignorance. It's all about handling and performance. If you are happy with FWD then enjoy it. |
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On 1/7/11 5:30 PM, I am Tosk wrote: In , says... On 1/7/11 4:22 PM, I am Tosk wrote: You are right, I am choppy and scarey to race around... That's why I didn't race the final races this season after the injury. I was out of form and my friends didn't need a "weekend warrior" on the track while they battled out a three way virtual tie for first place. Now Jessi is another story.. One day A.J. Catanzaro (DAGS) was training riders at our home track. He kept pointing at Jessi as she came by the group during the day and later I asked him what they were watching. He said, "I was showing them what smooth looked like". Jessi was thrilled when she asked him the same question later.. A.J. is known for smooth, nobody does it better... Well, maybe Tony;) A.J. currently races for GPF and has been flying back and fourth to Germany for Supercross where he is on the podium every week, and at age 16 is the reigning (US) National Arenacross Champion... ;) Yeah, I will let him judge Jessi, not some vulgar old fart who wouldn't know a spoke from a sparkplug...;) If you are a serious racer, the only judge that counts is the checkered flag. How many does your team have? Is your racer competing against the 16-year-old wunderkind? How is she faring? Are they about the same age? So, now you care about serious racing? Pfffftttt.... \ What makes you think *I* care about kiddie motorbike racing? You were touting your racing team, then you mentioned a hot kid racer and then you mentioned judging. That's why i mentioned the checkered flag. So how many checkered flags has your team won when competing with the hot kid racers? If you don't care, why do you ask, asshole? |
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says... Harryk wrote: On 1/7/11 5:30 PM, I am Tosk wrote: In , says... On 1/7/11 4:22 PM, I am Tosk wrote: You are right, I am choppy and scarey to race around... That's why I didn't race the final races this season after the injury. I was out of form and my friends didn't need a "weekend warrior" on the track while they battled out a three way virtual tie for first place. Now Jessi is another story.. One day A.J. Catanzaro (DAGS) was training riders at our home track. He kept pointing at Jessi as she came by the group during the day and later I asked him what they were watching. He said, "I was showing them what smooth looked like". Jessi was thrilled when she asked him the same question later.. A.J. is known for smooth, nobody does it better... Well, maybe Tony;) A.J. currently races for GPF and has been flying back and fourth to Germany for Supercross where he is on the podium every week, and at age 16 is the reigning (US) National Arenacross Champion... ;) Yeah, I will let him judge Jessi, not some vulgar old fart who wouldn't know a spoke from a sparkplug...;) If you are a serious racer, the only judge that counts is the checkered flag. How many does your team have? Is your racer competing against the 16-year-old wunderkind? How is she faring? Are they about the same age? So, now you care about serious racing? Pfffftttt.... \ What makes you think *I* care about kiddie motorbike racing? You were touting your racing team, then you mentioned a hot kid racer and then you mentioned judging. That's why i mentioned the checkered flag. So how many checkered flags has your team won when competing with the hot kid racers? If you don't care, why do you ask, asshole? Why, to be an asshole, of course. |
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says... In article , payer3389 @mypacks.net says... On 1/7/11 5:30 PM, I am Tosk wrote: In , says... On 1/7/11 4:22 PM, I am Tosk wrote: You are right, I am choppy and scarey to race around... That's why I didn't race the final races this season after the injury. I was out of form and my friends didn't need a "weekend warrior" on the track while they battled out a three way virtual tie for first place. Now Jessi is another story.. One day A.J. Catanzaro (DAGS) was training riders at our home track. He kept pointing at Jessi as she came by the group during the day and later I asked him what they were watching. He said, "I was showing them what smooth looked like". Jessi was thrilled when she asked him the same question later.. A.J. is known for smooth, nobody does it better... Well, maybe Tony;) A.J. currently races for GPF and has been flying back and fourth to Germany for Supercross where he is on the podium every week, and at age 16 is the reigning (US) National Arenacross Champion... ;) Yeah, I will let him judge Jessi, not some vulgar old fart who wouldn't know a spoke from a sparkplug...;) If you are a serious racer, the only judge that counts is the checkered flag. How many does your team have? Is your racer competing against the 16-year-old wunderkind? How is she faring? Are they about the same age? So, now you care about serious racing? Pfffftttt.... \ What makes you think *I* care about kiddie motorbike racing? You were touting your racing team, then you mentioned a hot kid racer and then you mentioned judging. That's why i mentioned the checkered flag. So how many checkered flags has your team won when competing with the hot kid racers? She doesn't race pro yet... Buh, bye... Well, you have to remember, Harry, being the best at everything, if he were to race motorcycles, instead of being locked in his room taking practice tests, he'd have started out pro. |
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says... "YukonBound" wrote in message ... "Spoofer" wrote in message ... In article , says... "Spoofer" wrote in message ... In article , says... "A.True.Boater" wrote in message ... On 1/7/11 10:20 AM, YukonBound wrote: "Harryk" wrote in message ... On 1/6/11 10:25 PM, I am Tosk wrote: I still hate front wheel drive.. Just doesn't make sense to have the steering and drive on the same axle, Please explain. Scotty thinks he's right and the vast majority of automotive engineers don't know what they're doing! How long did he last as an 'oil change' technician for Mr. Goodwrench? Since you have some back to rec.boats the signal to noise ratio has changed. There is more noise and less signal. Why don't you stop stirring the pot, and start enjoying rec.boats as a boating forum? mmmm ................when in Rome...... *Your* in hell, normally called Halifax. try 'you're'.................... spoofer. Alright!! Nothing else so you have to turn back into the grammar cop!!! How's that RAV4 that the salesman talked you into believing that it's a truck?! Duh! The Honda Ridgeline is built the same way as my RAV4........ and it's classified as a medium sized truck. I thought you were aware that the rav4 was built on a celica platform. He believed the car salesman, who most of us know will tell you anything you want to hear to get a sale. |
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On 1/8/11 11:57 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
Harry doesn't understand the sport, that is simple to see and I am pretty sure he wouldn't care or have a decent discussion about it even if he did... The only motorcycle racing that appeals to me is the International Isle of Man TT in any category. I especially like the sidecar races. The TT races are very fast and very dangerous. These last few years, the TV coverage has been terrific. The only sort of organized car racing that appeals to me is Formula and sports car racing over public roads, or interesting closed tracks such as Lime Rock. Racing around circles or ovals bores me. I'm not saying such racing can't be exciting or won't draw a huge fan base or doesn't require a great deal of skill; obviously, it does. But it doesn't do much for me. I attended the Daytona 500 when we lived in Florida and, to me, the race was boring. I'm sure everyone else in the stands disagreed. I really don't understand the appeal of NASCAR. |
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@mypacks.net says... On 1/8/11 11:57 AM, I am Tosk wrote: Harry doesn't understand the sport, that is simple to see and I am pretty sure he wouldn't care or have a decent discussion about it even if he did... The only motorcycle racing that appeals to me is the International Isle of Man TT in any category. I especially like the sidecar races. The TT races are very fast and very dangerous. These last few years, the TV coverage has been terrific. The only sort of organized car racing that appeals to me is Formula and sports car racing over public roads, or interesting closed tracks such as Lime Rock. Racing around circles or ovals bores me. I'm not saying such racing can't be exciting or won't draw a huge fan base or doesn't require a great deal of skill; obviously, it does. But it doesn't do much for me. I attended the Daytona 500 when we lived in Florida and, to me, the race was boring. I'm sure everyone else in the stands disagreed. I really don't understand the appeal of NASCAR. I know that to people like you who are ignorant of the sport, it looks like people are just driving around in a circle. It's far, far from that. That's how I know that you've never been in an organized race in your life. If you had, you'd know better. |
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On 1/8/11 12:16 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In , payer3389 @mypacks.net says... Blah, blah, blah... nobody is gonna' read your tired old stories Harry, give it up. Sorry, bub, but I doubt your kid is going to make in the world of pro motorcycle racing, not with you as team manager. |
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In articlej9udncIE5s2UTbrQnZ2dnUVZ_hednZ2d@giganews. com, says... Harryk wrote: On 1/7/11 5:30 PM, I am Tosk wrote: In , says... On 1/7/11 4:22 PM, I am Tosk wrote: You are right, I am choppy and scarey to race around... That's why I didn't race the final races this season after the injury. I was out of form and my friends didn't need a "weekend warrior" on the track while they battled out a three way virtual tie for first place. Now Jessi is another story.. One day A.J. Catanzaro (DAGS) was training riders at our home track. He kept pointing at Jessi as she came by the group during the day and later I asked him what they were watching. He said, "I was showing them what smooth looked like". Jessi was thrilled when she asked him the same question later.. A.J. is known for smooth, nobody does it better... Well, maybe Tony;) A.J. currently races for GPF and has been flying back and fourth to Germany for Supercross where he is on the podium every week, and at age 16 is the reigning (US) National Arenacross Champion... ;) Yeah, I will let him judge Jessi, not some vulgar old fart who wouldn't know a spoke from a sparkplug...;) If you are a serious racer, the only judge that counts is the checkered flag. How many does your team have? Is your racer competing against the 16-year-old wunderkind? How is she faring? Are they about the same age? So, now you care about serious racing? Pfffftttt.... \ What makes you think *I* care about kiddie motorbike racing? You were touting your racing team, then you mentioned a hot kid racer and then you mentioned judging. That's why i mentioned the checkered flag. So how many checkered flags has your team won when competing with the hot kid racers? If you don't care, why do you ask, asshole? Why, to be an asshole, of course. He lives a pathetic life. |
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In articleDK6dnWYFQ5_SA7XQnZ2dnUVZ_qGdnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389 @mypacks.net says... On 1/8/11 12:16 PM, I am Tosk wrote: In , payer3389 @mypacks.net says... Blah, blah, blah... nobody is gonna' read your tired old stories Harry, give it up. Sorry, bub, but I doubt your kid is going to make in the world of pro motorcycle racing, not with you as team manager. Yeah Harry, you are the expert, that's for sure... His children have disowned him. WAFA! |
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says... wrote: On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 06:18:37 -0500, wrote: On 1/6/11 10:25 PM, I am Tosk wrote: I still hate front wheel drive.. Just doesn't make sense to have the steering and drive on the same axle, Please explain. You basically have 2 tires doing all the work from one end of the car. It is a lot easier to break them loose and be totally out of control. My Prelude can get pretty squirrely when you are driving it hard. As a teenager I always wanted a Prelude. The 4WS was revolutionary back then. The Mitsubishi 3000GT/Dodge Stealth was the next one but it was also out of reach financially at the time. A friend of mine who actually had two PhD's at the time bought one of those Dodge Stealth's thinking that it was going to be a pussy magnet. About 6 months after he bought it he said that the only people attracted to the 3000GT/Stealth were 13 year old boys. I didn't buy the 4WS Prelude. It was a such a different feel when changing lanes on the Interstate but, you could turn one around in little more than its body length from a stop. |
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On Fri, 7 Jan 2011 18:19:01 -0800, "Califbill"
wrote: wrote in message ... On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 09:27:24 -0500, "A.True.Boater" wrote: On 1/7/11 9:14 AM, I am Tosk wrote: And anybody who has raced knows if you are going off the road, hit the gas and get that back end between you and the guardrail. I did this without even thinking about it a few years back when I hit the ice in my Wrangler... I slid long enough to know I wasn't catching it, so as I came around I stayed in the throttle t There are advantages of front wheel drive which include Lower cost - you have reduced the cost of the driveshaft and additional hardware. The has an advantage of providing better fuel economy due to weight reduction. Cabin Space You have increased the space inside of the car, by removing the drivetrain Traction - with the weight of the engine over the drive wheels you can have better traction in slippery conditions That being said, there are many automotive enthusiasts and engineers who agree with you that front wheel drive sucks. Auto design like boat design is a series of compromises. Auto manufacturers like it because the whole drive train comes in on a pallet and they slam it in in one piece. With standardized mounting points it becomes a commodity item. That is why you see so few engines these days. Reply: They also like it as you have a flat floorpan. Ease of interior design and more legroom in a smaller car. More wear on the front wheels as they are both steering and powering. Means more traction required in the same conditions for the front tires. More complicated transmission to wheel coupling. But is quicker to assemble as a complete car. No drive shafts to connect, no extra transmission to install. But I do not mind driving a front wheel drive car, but would be much harder to drift in a turn. Plus all of the front wheel drive cars I have owned, including the newest a 2009 Venza all torque steer. Is the Venza about the same as the Lexus 350 (or whatever it is now)? I'm thinking of one of those for MrsH when she's tired of her Highlander. How do you like the Venza? |
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... Tim wrote: On Jan 6, 12:39 pm, wrote: The Land Rover 110 used to be the hot ticket but the Toyotas are a lot more dependable and handle a lot better. The old one liner: "Did you hear about the guy that bought a new Land Rover and it didn't leak any oil so he kept taking it back and hounding the dealer till they got it right?" They have come a long way and the price tag will prove that! Reply: Worked with a guy in the 90's who hated Land Rover. He said, $80k vehicle and the fan is squealing. They will not fix it under extended warrantee as they say the fan is still working blowing air. Was over a $1000 to fix the fan as they had to pull the dash. He sold it and bought a Tahoe. Said is was 2x the car at 1/2 the price. I would have sued the dealer and land Rover for both damages and punitive damages. Big damages. |
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... "John H" wrote in message ... On Fri, 7 Jan 2011 18:19:01 -0800, "Califbill" wrote: wrote in message ... On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 09:27:24 -0500, "A.True.Boater" wrote: On 1/7/11 9:14 AM, I am Tosk wrote: And anybody who has raced knows if you are going off the road, hit the gas and get that back end between you and the guardrail. I did this without even thinking about it a few years back when I hit the ice in my Wrangler... I slid long enough to know I wasn't catching it, so as I came around I stayed in the throttle t There are advantages of front wheel drive which include Lower cost - you have reduced the cost of the driveshaft and additional hardware. The has an advantage of providing better fuel economy due to weight reduction. Cabin Space You have increased the space inside of the car, by removing the drivetrain Traction - with the weight of the engine over the drive wheels you can have better traction in slippery conditions That being said, there are many automotive enthusiasts and engineers who agree with you that front wheel drive sucks. Auto design like boat design is a series of compromises. Auto manufacturers like it because the whole drive train comes in on a pallet and they slam it in in one piece. With standardized mounting points it becomes a commodity item. That is why you see so few engines these days. Reply: They also like it as you have a flat floorpan. Ease of interior design and more legroom in a smaller car. More wear on the front wheels as they are both steering and powering. Means more traction required in the same conditions for the front tires. More complicated transmission to wheel coupling. But is quicker to assemble as a complete car. No drive shafts to connect, no extra transmission to install. But I do not mind driving a front wheel drive car, but would be much harder to drift in a turn. Plus all of the front wheel drive cars I have owned, including the newest a 2009 Venza all torque steer. Is the Venza about the same as the Lexus 350 (or whatever it is now)? I'm thinking of one of those for MrsH when she's tired of her Highlander. How do you like the Venza? ~~ Snerk ~~ Least reliable of the Toyotas...... better re-new your subscription to Consumers Reports. Another Toyota where the windshield seems to cave in on you. Reply: Who the crap believes CR? They report to the highest bidder. Wife loves the Venza. Gets worse mileage than I think it should. About 22-24 on the highway. Buddy, same engine in a Avalon, gets about 30 mpg. Road noise with the 20" tires is louder than I think it should be. Good visibility, nice ride, good handling. Wife and I disliked the Highlander for a couple reasons. Box with no style and the rear visibility with the rear seat headrests sucks. Reliability? No problems in 2 years and 24000 miles. Only recall is floor mats. Actually had one problem fixed at first service. The overhead switch for garage door opener was bad. Hers in fully loaded. Only thing it does not have that we wanted was seat heaters. |
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On Sun, 9 Jan 2011 20:16:42 -0800, "Califbill"
wrote: "YukonBound" wrote in message .. . "John H" wrote in message .. . On Fri, 7 Jan 2011 18:19:01 -0800, "Califbill" wrote: wrote in message ... On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 09:27:24 -0500, "A.True.Boater" wrote: On 1/7/11 9:14 AM, I am Tosk wrote: And anybody who has raced knows if you are going off the road, hit the gas and get that back end between you and the guardrail. I did this without even thinking about it a few years back when I hit the ice in my Wrangler... I slid long enough to know I wasn't catching it, so as I came around I stayed in the throttle t There are advantages of front wheel drive which include Lower cost - you have reduced the cost of the driveshaft and additional hardware. The has an advantage of providing better fuel economy due to weight reduction. Cabin Space You have increased the space inside of the car, by removing the drivetrain Traction - with the weight of the engine over the drive wheels you can have better traction in slippery conditions That being said, there are many automotive enthusiasts and engineers who agree with you that front wheel drive sucks. Auto design like boat design is a series of compromises. Auto manufacturers like it because the whole drive train comes in on a pallet and they slam it in in one piece. With standardized mounting points it becomes a commodity item. That is why you see so few engines these days. Reply: They also like it as you have a flat floorpan. Ease of interior design and more legroom in a smaller car. More wear on the front wheels as they are both steering and powering. Means more traction required in the same conditions for the front tires. More complicated transmission to wheel coupling. But is quicker to assemble as a complete car. No drive shafts to connect, no extra transmission to install. But I do not mind driving a front wheel drive car, but would be much harder to drift in a turn. Plus all of the front wheel drive cars I have owned, including the newest a 2009 Venza all torque steer. Is the Venza about the same as the Lexus 350 (or whatever it is now)? I'm thinking of one of those for MrsH when she's tired of her Highlander. How do you like the Venza? ~~ Snerk ~~ Least reliable of the Toyotas...... better re-new your subscription to Consumers Reports. Another Toyota where the windshield seems to cave in on you. Reply: Who the crap believes CR? They report to the highest bidder. Wife loves the Venza. Gets worse mileage than I think it should. About 22-24 on the highway. Buddy, same engine in a Avalon, gets about 30 mpg. Road noise with the 20" tires is louder than I think it should be. Good visibility, nice ride, good handling. Wife and I disliked the Highlander for a couple reasons. Box with no style and the rear visibility with the rear seat headrests sucks. Reliability? No problems in 2 years and 24000 miles. Only recall is floor mats. Actually had one problem fixed at first service. The overhead switch for garage door opener was bad. Hers in fully loaded. Only thing it does not have that we wanted was seat heaters. The headrests for my wife's rear seats are in the garage somewhere. She doesn't carry anyone back there, so I'm not too worried about a lawsuit. |
Smaller trucks?
"John H" wrote in message ... On Sun, 9 Jan 2011 20:16:42 -0800, "Califbill" wrote: "YukonBound" wrote in message . .. "John H" wrote in message . .. On Fri, 7 Jan 2011 18:19:01 -0800, "Califbill" wrote: wrote in message ... On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 09:27:24 -0500, "A.True.Boater" wrote: On 1/7/11 9:14 AM, I am Tosk wrote: And anybody who has raced knows if you are going off the road, hit the gas and get that back end between you and the guardrail. I did this without even thinking about it a few years back when I hit the ice in my Wrangler... I slid long enough to know I wasn't catching it, so as I came around I stayed in the throttle t There are advantages of front wheel drive which include Lower cost - you have reduced the cost of the driveshaft and additional hardware. The has an advantage of providing better fuel economy due to weight reduction. Cabin Space You have increased the space inside of the car, by removing the drivetrain Traction - with the weight of the engine over the drive wheels you can have better traction in slippery conditions That being said, there are many automotive enthusiasts and engineers who agree with you that front wheel drive sucks. Auto design like boat design is a series of compromises. Auto manufacturers like it because the whole drive train comes in on a pallet and they slam it in in one piece. With standardized mounting points it becomes a commodity item. That is why you see so few engines these days. Reply: They also like it as you have a flat floorpan. Ease of interior design and more legroom in a smaller car. More wear on the front wheels as they are both steering and powering. Means more traction required in the same conditions for the front tires. More complicated transmission to wheel coupling. But is quicker to assemble as a complete car. No drive shafts to connect, no extra transmission to install. But I do not mind driving a front wheel drive car, but would be much harder to drift in a turn. Plus all of the front wheel drive cars I have owned, including the newest a 2009 Venza all torque steer. Is the Venza about the same as the Lexus 350 (or whatever it is now)? I'm thinking of one of those for MrsH when she's tired of her Highlander. How do you like the Venza? ~~ Snerk ~~ Least reliable of the Toyotas...... better re-new your subscription to Consumers Reports. Another Toyota where the windshield seems to cave in on you. Reply: Who the crap believes CR? They report to the highest bidder. Wife loves the Venza. Gets worse mileage than I think it should. About 22-24 on the highway. Buddy, same engine in a Avalon, gets about 30 mpg. Road noise with the 20" tires is louder than I think it should be. Good visibility, nice ride, good handling. Wife and I disliked the Highlander for a couple reasons. Box with no style and the rear visibility with the rear seat headrests sucks. Reliability? No problems in 2 years and 24000 miles. Only recall is floor mats. Actually had one problem fixed at first service. The overhead switch for garage door opener was bad. Hers in fully loaded. Only thing it does not have that we wanted was seat heaters. The headrests for my wife's rear seats are in the garage somewhere. She doesn't carry anyone back there, so I'm not too worried about a lawsuit. Not against the law down there to remove or alter safety equipment on an automobile?? |
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On 1/10/11 5:21 PM, John H wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 16:21:24 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 15:38:46 -0400, "YukonBound" wrote: The headrests for my wife's rear seats are in the garage somewhere. She doesn't carry anyone back there, so I'm not too worried about a lawsuit. Not against the law down there to remove or alter safety equipment on an automobile?? Short answer ... no. It might affect a licensed dealer if they resell the car off the used lot but I doubt it, particularly if they have an "as is" sticker on it. BTW in Florida you can also scrape off that USCG capacity sticker on your boat if you want. It only applies to manufacturers and the original sale. This came up on the pontoon forum. What a stupid question. There's another reason to be thankful for filtering Donnie. Herring...ever the asshole. |
Smaller trucks?
On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 17:21:21 -0500, John H
wrote: On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 16:21:24 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 15:38:46 -0400, "YukonBound" wrote: The headrests for my wife's rear seats are in the garage somewhere. She doesn't carry anyone back there, so I'm not too worried about a lawsuit. Not against the law down there to remove or alter safety equipment on an automobile?? Short answer ... no. It might affect a licensed dealer if they resell the car off the used lot but I doubt it, particularly if they have an "as is" sticker on it. BTW in Florida you can also scrape off that USCG capacity sticker on your boat if you want. It only applies to manufacturers and the original sale. This came up on the pontoon forum. What a stupid question. There's another reason to be thankful for filtering Donnie. Donny who? |
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BAR wrote:
In articledoadnbqvuu3yhLTQnZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@giganews. com, says... wrote: On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 06:18:37 -0500, wrote: On 1/6/11 10:25 PM, I am Tosk wrote: I still hate front wheel drive.. Just doesn't make sense to have the steering and drive on the same axle, Please explain. You basically have 2 tires doing all the work from one end of the car. It is a lot easier to break them loose and be totally out of control. My Prelude can get pretty squirrely when you are driving it hard. As a teenager I always wanted a Prelude. The 4WS was revolutionary back then. The Mitsubishi 3000GT/Dodge Stealth was the next one but it was also out of reach financially at the time. A friend of mine who actually had two PhD's at the time bought one of those Dodge Stealth's thinking that it was going to be a pussy magnet. About 6 months after he bought it he said that the only people attracted to the 3000GT/Stealth were 13 year old boys. I didn't buy the 4WS Prelude. It was a such a different feel when changing lanes on the Interstate but, you could turn one around in little more than its body length from a stop. The 3000GT looked better than the Dodge IMO. They were ahead of their time technologically. That VR-4 produced 300hp in a fairly light car. |
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Harryk wrote:
On 1/10/11 5:21 PM, John H wrote: On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 16:21:24 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 15:38:46 -0400, "YukonBound" wrote: The headrests for my wife's rear seats are in the garage somewhere. She doesn't carry anyone back there, so I'm not too worried about a lawsuit. Not against the law down there to remove or alter safety equipment on an automobile?? Short answer ... no. It might affect a licensed dealer if they resell the car off the used lot but I doubt it, particularly if they have an "as is" sticker on it. BTW in Florida you can also scrape off that USCG capacity sticker on your boat if you want. It only applies to manufacturers and the original sale. This came up on the pontoon forum. What a stupid question. There's another reason to be thankful for filtering Donnie. Herring...ever the asshole. How narcissistic! WAFA! |
Smaller trucks? speaking of Land Rover...
On Jan 6, 8:46*pm, Tim wrote:
On Jan 6, 12:39*pm, "MMC" wrote: TheLandRover110 used to be the hot ticket but the Toyotas are a lot more dependable and handle a lot better. The old one liner: "Did you hear about the guy that bought a new Land Rover and it didn't leak any oil so he kept taking it back and hounding the dealer till they got it right?" http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10698544 A double whammy! |
Smaller trucks? speaking of Land Rover...
On 1/16/11 8:41 AM, Gene wrote:
On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 20:28:59 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Jan 6, 8:46 pm, wrote: On Jan 6, 12:39 pm, wrote: TheLandRover110 used to be the hot ticket but the Toyotas are a lot more dependable and handle a lot better. The old one liner: "Did you hear about the guy that bought a new Land Rover and it didn't leak any oil so he kept taking it back and hounding the dealer till they got it right?" http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10698544 A double whammy! I don't know if they still use Lucas electrics... but no surprise, anyway.... The "electrics" on some of the lesser-known Italian cars in the late 1950's and early 1960's were as bad as the Lucas stuff. |
Smaller trucks? speaking of Land Rover...
On Jan 16, 7:43*am, Harryk wrote:
On 1/16/11 8:41 AM, Gene wrote: On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 20:28:59 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Jan 6, 8:46 pm, *wrote: On Jan 6, 12:39 pm, *wrote: TheLandRover110 used to be the hot ticket but the Toyotas are a lot more dependable and handle a lot better. The old one liner: "Did you hear about the guy that bought a new Land Rover and it didn't leak any oil so he kept taking it back and hounding the dealer till they got it right?" http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10698544 A double whammy! I don't know if they still use Lucas electrics... but no surprise, anyway.... The "electrics" on some of the lesser-known Italian cars in the late 1950's and early 1960's were as bad as the Lucas stuff. Magneti Marelli.... And lucas. now the ironic part. In a round about way, Lucas and Marelli merged about 15+ years ago. Do they make a better product? NO! There's business wedding was about like two drunks tying themselves together to see if they could stagger straight. |
Smaller trucks? speaking of Land Rover...
On 1/16/11 9:04 AM, Tim wrote:
On Jan 16, 7:43 am, wrote: On 1/16/11 8:41 AM, Gene wrote: On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 20:28:59 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Jan 6, 8:46 pm, wrote: On Jan 6, 12:39 pm, wrote: TheLandRover110 used to be the hot ticket but the Toyotas are a lot more dependable and handle a lot better. The old one liner: "Did you hear about the guy that bought a new Land Rover and it didn't leak any oil so he kept taking it back and hounding the dealer till they got it right?" http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10698544 A double whammy! I don't know if they still use Lucas electrics... but no surprise, anyway.... The "electrics" on some of the lesser-known Italian cars in the late 1950's and early 1960's were as bad as the Lucas stuff. Magneti Marelli.... And lucas. now the ironic part. In a round about way, Lucas and Marelli merged about 15+ years ago. Do they make a better product? NO! There's business wedding was about like two drunks tying themselves together to see if they could stagger straight. There was a guy in Independence, Missouri, a TR-4 racer, who for a living in the 1960s ran a Brit car speed shop. I remember he had a "special" in which he would rip out all the wiring and whatever else electrical he could on your British sports car and replace it with GM stuff. I don't remember the details, but there was always a car in his shop undergoing electrical transmogrification. |
Smaller trucks? speaking of Land Rover...
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says... On 1/16/11 9:04 AM, Tim wrote: On Jan 16, 7:43 am, wrote: On 1/16/11 8:41 AM, Gene wrote: On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 20:28:59 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Jan 6, 8:46 pm, wrote: On Jan 6, 12:39 pm, wrote: TheLandRover110 used to be the hot ticket but the Toyotas are a lot more dependable and handle a lot better. The old one liner: "Did you hear about the guy that bought a new Land Rover and it didn't leak any oil so he kept taking it back and hounding the dealer till they got it right?" http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10698544 A double whammy! I don't know if they still use Lucas electrics... but no surprise, anyway.... The "electrics" on some of the lesser-known Italian cars in the late 1950's and early 1960's were as bad as the Lucas stuff. Magneti Marelli.... And lucas. now the ironic part. In a round about way, Lucas and Marelli merged about 15+ years ago. Do they make a better product? NO! There's business wedding was about like two drunks tying themselves together to see if they could stagger straight. There was a guy in Independence, Missouri, a TR-4 racer, who for a living in the 1960s ran a Brit car speed shop. I remember he had a "special" in which he would rip out all the wiring and whatever else electrical he could on your British sports car and replace it with GM stuff. I don't remember the details, but there was always a car in his shop undergoing electrical transmogrification. Sure...... another Harrylie. |
Smaller trucks? speaking of Land Rover...
"Tim" wrote in message ... On Jan 6, 8:46 pm, Tim wrote: On Jan 6, 12:39 pm, "MMC" wrote: TheLandRover110 used to be the hot ticket but the Toyotas are a lot more dependable and handle a lot better. The old one liner: "Did you hear about the guy that bought a new Land Rover and it didn't leak any oil so he kept taking it back and hounding the dealer till they got it right?" http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10698544 A double whammy! ======= Bummer! |
Smaller trucks? speaking of Land Rover...
On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 20:28:59 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote: On Jan 6, 8:46*pm, Tim wrote: On Jan 6, 12:39*pm, "MMC" wrote: TheLandRover110 used to be the hot ticket but the Toyotas are a lot more dependable and handle a lot better. The old one liner: "Did you hear about the guy that bought a new Land Rover and it didn't leak any oil so he kept taking it back and hounding the dealer till they got it right?" http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10698544 A double whammy! was looking at used land rovers to replace my honda CRV which died at 210k miles the reviews on used land rovers are TERRIBLE. freelanders with cracked engine blocks (LOTS of this), transmission problems, etc.... so went with a honda element... |
Smaller trucks? speaking of Land Rover...
"bpuharic" wrote in message ... On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 20:28:59 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Jan 6, 8:46 pm, Tim wrote: On Jan 6, 12:39 pm, "MMC" wrote: TheLandRover110 used to be the hot ticket but the Toyotas are a lot more dependable and handle a lot better. The old one liner: "Did you hear about the guy that bought a new Land Rover and it didn't leak any oil so he kept taking it back and hounding the dealer till they got it right?" http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10698544 A double whammy! was looking at used land rovers to replace my honda CRV which died at 210k miles the reviews on used land rovers are TERRIBLE. freelanders with cracked engine blocks (LOTS of this), transmission problems, etc.... so went with a honda element... Believe I read that the Element is no more...... most Honda buyers in that category felt the CRV was a better buy. |
Smaller trucks? speaking of Land Rover...
On Jan 16, 2:03*pm, "YukonBound" wrote:
"bpuharic" wrote in message ... On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 20:28:59 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Jan 6, 8:46 pm, Tim wrote: On Jan 6, 12:39 pm, "MMC" wrote: TheLandRover110 used to be the hot ticket but the Toyotas are a lot more dependable and handle a lot better. The old one liner: "Did you hear about the guy that bought a new Land Rover and it didn't leak any oil so he kept taking it back and hounding the dealer till they got it right?" http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10698544 A double whammy! was looking at used land rovers to replace my honda CRV which died at 210k miles the reviews on used land rovers are TERRIBLE. *freelanders with cracked engine blocks (LOTS of this), transmission problems, etc.... so went with a honda element... Believe I read that the Element is no more...... * most Honda buyers in that category felt the CRV *was a better buy. My wife has a love/hate relationship with her CRV. After her beloved Chrysler town'n country van with 250+ thousand on it, she decided she was scared of it's dependability and decided to get something diffrent. So she looked at CRV's. She's disappointed in all the manual stuff. especially the seat adjustment, and the center console and the ride. Other wise she likes the car's 30 mpg, manuverability and adequate space for no more car than what is actually there. Yeah, trade-off's but she's actually satisfied with her purchase. plus she gave half for it as what a Chrysler TC or compatable van would cost. |
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