On 12/10/10 4:07 PM, John H wrote:
On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 13:18:49 -0500, wrote:

On 12/10/10 12:58 PM, John H wrote:
On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 06:26:06 -0500, wrote:

On 12/9/10 10:16 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 09 Dec 2010 16:37:45 -0500,
wrote:

My plan is to visit some of
the larger boat yards and see what they are using locally. Beyond that,
any recommendations?

There are plenty of good bottom paints offered in black. I've been
using Micron Ultra with fairly good results considering that the boat
is usually in semi tropical water 12 months of the year. We typically
go 2 full years before repainting although it clearly is starting to
lose some effectiveness towards the end. It didn't seem to work that
well in the Caribbean however. We had types of fouling that I'd
never seen before and it grew incredibly quickly.

I'd ask around with some of your local boat yard managers. They
usually have a pretty good idea what works well in your area. In any
case you'll probably want to have a diver clean the bottom every month
or two. It makes a big difference in speed and fuel burn, easily
paying for itself.

http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|10918|296162|11000|311496|368288|586729&id=73825 7



Thanks for the advice. I'll check out the Micron. I like this line in
the description:

"This includes warmer waters with greater land runoff and slime-causing
algae."

I don't know if we have "warmer waters," but we sure have the runoff and
algae.

After reading your post, I immediately began searching Google for info on bottom
paints. Most folks said, "Let the professionals do it." That made good sense.
But the post that seemed to make the most sense, in response to the question,
"What kind of paint should I use on my hull?"

The answer, "Waterproof."

Makes sense to me.


Gee, I wonder how well "waterproof" anti-fouling bottom paint ablates.
Probably as well as WD-40 rust and corrosion proofs the inside of an
engine, eh?

Are you on the rag, or what?

Is humor just too much for you?

No need to reply, Harry.


Glad to reply. Not easy to tell your "humor" from your insulting.

On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 15:13:38 -0500, HarryK
wrote:

On 12/10/2010 11:47 AM, Paul@BYC wrote:
On 12/10/2010 11:21 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 07:55:28 -0800, wrote:

Best advice has already been given, and that is to visit some boatyards
and ask questions. Bottom paint is not cheap.

Unless you're comparing it to the labor cost, then it's pretty
reasonable.

That's exactly right. There are very few boat yards that will allow
you to do your own bottom painting these days because of environmental
regs. When the yard is doing the work, paint is the cheapest part of
the job.


Absolutely correct.

Incidentally, I appreciate your efforts to keep this newsgroup at least
semi on track, but it looks as if there's yet another ID spoofer who has
gone active, and there's nothing that can be done about it. I really
don't have the time to spend more than a few minutes a day "here," and
that means I don't have the time to shovel through the posts of the
ever-changing fake IDerss, the ID spoofers, and the just plain nasties.
The only thing being accomplished is hastening the demise of rec.boats.
Maybe that is their goal.


Hell, Paul, I trashed rec.boats years ago.

What happened years ago gives you license to act like a pussy today?

On 12/10/2010 4:49 PM, jps wrote:
On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 15:13:38 -0500,
wrote:

On 12/10/2010 11:47 AM, Paul@BYC wrote:
On 12/10/2010 11:21 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 07:55:28 -0800, wrote:

Best advice has already been given, and that is to visit some boatyards
and ask questions. Bottom paint is not cheap.

Unless you're comparing it to the labor cost, then it's pretty
reasonable.

That's exactly right. There are very few boat yards that will allow
you to do your own bottom painting these days because of environmental
regs. When the yard is doing the work, paint is the cheapest part of
the job.


Absolutely correct.

Incidentally, I appreciate your efforts to keep this newsgroup at least
semi on track, but it looks as if there's yet another ID spoofer who has
gone active, and there's nothing that can be done about it. I really
don't have the time to spend more than a few minutes a day "here," and
that means I don't have the time to shovel through the posts of the
ever-changing fake IDerss, the ID spoofers, and the just plain nasties.
The only thing being accomplished is hastening the demise of rec.boats.
Maybe that is their goal.


Hell, Paul, I trashed rec.boats years ago.

What happened years ago gives you license to act like a pussy today?

Years ago, I challenged a poster to find and post my personal
information. He did. Then my wife started getting telephone calls about
me. It got so bad I had to call the FBI in. Since then I have been
banished to the basement. I have guns.

HarryK wrote:
On 12/10/10 9:08 AM, Harry Scary wrote:
In articlePYCdnV2vlvvV2ZzQnZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@giganews. com,
says...

On 12/9/2010 12:58 PM, HarryK wrote:
On 12/9/10 12:13 PM, HarryK wrote:
On 12/9/10 11:56 AM, Paul@BYC wrote:
Apparently, there have been a fairly large number of posts since
midnight, but I didn't come across any that were pleasure boat/sport
fishing related. That's really too bad.



There are very few boaters here even when the weather is nice.
Plus, if
you take the time to write and post a good post about boating, the
chances are good the aforementioned assholes here will trash it.



Which is the reason I only make posts about my deck, my UPS
shipments ,
and subtle and not so subtle name calling.

Bull****.

I do recall mentioning the boat I just purchased.

Let's see some proof of that! You've been caught in FAR too many lies
for anybody but Don to believe you.

I posted photos of my Parker, both the big Parker and the little
Parker. I didn't post pictures of my Hatteras, Lobster Boat or my
newest boat because the rec.boats is full of low life right wing
assholes.

I don't understand what the big deal is, I did post many photos of my
deck's footings that should have keep the right-wing happy and amused
for a few months.
You post only what is real. The rest is bull**** and you have a solid
reputation to back that up.

On 12/10/10 8:35 PM, L G wrote:
HarryK wrote:
On 12/10/10 9:08 AM, Harry Scary wrote:
In articlePYCdnV2vlvvV2ZzQnZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@giganews. com,
says...

On 12/9/2010 12:58 PM, HarryK wrote:
On 12/9/10 12:13 PM, HarryK wrote:
On 12/9/10 11:56 AM, Paul@BYC wrote:
Apparently, there have been a fairly large number of posts since
midnight, but I didn't come across any that were pleasure boat/sport
fishing related. That's really too bad.



There are very few boaters here even when the weather is nice.
Plus, if
you take the time to write and post a good post about boating, the
chances are good the aforementioned assholes here will trash it.



Which is the reason I only make posts about my deck, my UPS
shipments ,
and subtle and not so subtle name calling.

Bull****.

I do recall mentioning the boat I just purchased.

Let's see some proof of that! You've been caught in FAR too many lies
for anybody but Don to believe you.

I posted photos of my Parker, both the big Parker and the little
Parker. I didn't post pictures of my Hatteras, Lobster Boat or my
newest boat because the rec.boats is full of low life right wing
assholes.

I don't understand what the big deal is, I did post many photos of my
deck's footings that should have keep the right-wing happy and amused
for a few months.
You post only what is real. The rest is bull**** and you have a solid
reputation to back that up.


Well, I could post photos of my new boat, I have decided not to. I do
have to tell you, I love having a nice tall flying bridge. I feel like
a real captain. I am thinking about getting a pipe like Popeye's. Toot
Toot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYZH_4yo170

I'm Popeye.

"Tim" wrote in message
...
On Dec 9, 10:56 am, "Paul@BYC" wrote:
Apparently, there have been a fairly large number of posts since
midnight, but I didn't come across any that were pleasure boat/sport
fishing related. That's really too bad.

Well, post something.

Yes, the Lord knows we can't rely on the spoofers and agitators, with their
legion of aiders & abettors to actually post anything about boating.

"YukonBound" wrote in message ...


"Tim" wrote in message
...
On Dec 9, 10:56 am, "Paul@BYC" wrote:
Apparently, there have been a fairly large number of posts since
midnight, but I didn't come across any that were pleasure boat/sport
fishing related. That's really too bad.

Well, post something.

Yes, the Lord knows we can't rely on the spoofers and agitators, with their
legion of aiders & abettors to actually post anything about boating.


So true. BTW Do you have a mirror at your abode?

I just had a splendid idea. How about if we invited all of those brainy debaters on rec.boats to have a knock down drag out debate amongst themselves. I'm sure there are enough people with sufficient gray matter to keep Krause and Deplume stimulated in a lively debate. Anybody willing to debate those two?

You can make yourself useful by spreading the word and generating enthusiasm for the debate,

--
Ziggy®

YukonBound wrote:


"Tim" wrote in message
...
On Dec 9, 10:56 am, "Paul@BYC" wrote:
Apparently, there have been a fairly large number of posts since
midnight, but I didn't come across any that were pleasure boat/sport
fishing related. That's really too bad.

Well, post something.

Yes, the Lord knows we can't rely on the spoofers and agitators, with
their legion of aiders & abettors to actually post anything about
boating.
Or you, dummy with a rowboat.

In article ,
says...

On 12/9/2010 12:58 PM, HarryK wrote:
On 12/9/10 12:13 PM, HarryK wrote:
On 12/9/10 11:56 AM, Paul@BYC wrote:
Apparently, there have been a fairly large number of posts since
midnight, but I didn't come across any that were pleasure boat/sport
fishing related. That's really too bad.



There are very few boaters here even when the weather is nice. Plus, if
you take the time to write and post a good post about boating, the
chances are good the aforementioned assholes here will trash it.



Which is the reason I only make posts about my deck, my UPS shipments ,
and subtle and not so subtle name calling.

Bull****.

I do recall mentioning the boat I just purchased.

The driveway queen on the trailer with the tires with the flat spots.

On 12/12/10 11:05 AM, BAR wrote:
In articlePYCdnV2vlvvV2ZzQnZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@giganews. com,
says...

On 12/9/2010 12:58 PM, HarryK wrote:
On 12/9/10 12:13 PM, HarryK wrote:
On 12/9/10 11:56 AM, Paul@BYC wrote:
Apparently, there have been a fairly large number of posts since
midnight, but I didn't come across any that were pleasure boat/sport
fishing related. That's really too bad.



There are very few boaters here even when the weather is nice. Plus, if
you take the time to write and post a good post about boating, the
chances are good the aforementioned assholes here will trash it.



Which is the reason I only make posts about my deck, my UPS shipments ,
and subtle and not so subtle name calling.

Bull****.

I do recall mentioning the boat I just purchased.

The driveway queen on the trailer with the tires with the flat spots.


you must enjoy enabling that fifth grader farter, Bertie. Oh...however
much I use my boat, which, of course, you have no way of knowing, it is
more than you use your boat because...

....you don't have a boat.