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Tim December 7th 10 11:56 PM

Today- "A day that will live in infamy." -FDR, December 7, 1941
 
While bypassing the bickering, I thought I'd post a reminder of one of
the most solemn days in U.S History, via the attack on Pearl harbor
and the sinking of the crippling of the Pacific fleet.

Remembering the day.

Ziggy®[_2_] December 8th 10 12:55 AM

Today- "A day that will live in infamy." -FDR, December 7, 1941
 
"Tim" wrote in message ...
While bypassing the bickering, I thought I'd post a reminder of one of
the most solemn days in U.S History, via the attack on Pearl harbor
and the sinking of the crippling of the Pacific fleet.

Remembering the day.



The bing search engine used an aerial shot of the memorial as wallpaper today. Also they had links to some historic newsreels. Quite sobering, really.

--
Ziggy®

Tim December 8th 10 01:30 AM

Today- "A day that will live in infamy." -FDR, December 7, 1941
 
On Dec 7, 6:55*pm, Ziggy® wrote:
"Tim" wrote in ...
While bypassing the bickering, I thought I'd post a reminder of one of
the most solemn days in U.S History, via the attack on Pearl harbor
and the sinking of the crippling of the Pacific fleet.


Remembering the day.


The bing search engine used an aerial shot of the memorial as wallpaper today. Also they had links to some historic newsreels. Quite sobering, really.

--
Ziggy®


Yes indeed. In our local courthouse is a picture of a young marine
who went down on the Arizona.

*e#c December 8th 10 02:19 AM

OT Today- "A day that will live in infamy." -FDR, December 7, 1941
 
On Dec 7, 6:56*pm, Tim wrote:
While bypassing the bickering, I thought I'd post a reminder of one of
the most solemn days in U.S History, via the attack on Pearl harbor
and the sinking of the crippling of the Pacific fleet.

Remembering the day.


.......

Tim December 8th 10 02:53 AM

Today- "A day that will live in infamy." -FDR, December 7, 1941
 
This is not only a historic day for the United States, but also
involved our Navy, and it's ships. Really big boats.


Paul@BYC[_2_] December 8th 10 11:34 AM

Today- "A day that will live in infamy." -FDR, December 7, 1941
 
On 12/7/2010 9:53 PM, Tim wrote:
This is not only a historic day for the United States, but also
involved our Navy, and it's ships. Really big boats.



I had to sort through about 200 posts this morning to find this post,
which is at least sort of boating related and not snotty. Congratulations!

HarryK[_3_] December 8th 10 12:06 PM

Today- "A day that will live in infamy." -FDR, December 7, 1941
 
On 12/8/10 6:34 AM, Paul@BYC wrote:
On 12/7/2010 9:53 PM, Tim wrote:
This is not only a historic day for the United States, but also
involved our Navy, and it's ships. Really big boats.



I had to sort through about 200 posts this morning to find this post,
which is at least sort of boating related and not snotty. Congratulations!


Since you made this post, make that 201 snotty posts. Congratulations.

BAR[_2_] December 8th 10 01:32 PM

Today- "A day that will live in infamy." -FDR, December 7, 1941
 
In article 4486b8e5-bd03-42b1-b431-
, says...

While bypassing the bickering, I thought I'd post a reminder of one of
the most solemn days in U.S History, via the attack on Pearl harbor
and the sinking of the crippling of the Pacific fleet.

Remembering the day.


My dad was there a child of 5 along with his sister watching the planes.
His one vivid memory of that day is the face of one Japanese pilot he
saw. Also, my grand-fathers ship the USS Shaw, the famous explosion
picture, was there and my grand-mother took most of the photos in the
hours and days after that were used by the media and the government.



John H[_2_] December 8th 10 01:34 PM

Today- "A day that will live in infamy." -FDR, December 7, 1941
 
On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 07:06:04 -0500, HarryK wrote:

On 12/8/10 6:34 AM, Paul@BYC wrote:
On 12/7/2010 9:53 PM, Tim wrote:
This is not only a historic day for the United States, but also
involved our Navy, and it's ships. Really big boats.



I had to sort through about 200 posts this morning to find this post,
which is at least sort of boating related and not snotty. Congratulations!


Since you made this post, make that 201 snotty posts. Congratulations.


Amen.

HarryK[_4_] December 8th 10 02:17 PM

Today- "A day that will live in infamy." -FDR, December 7, 1941
 
On 12/8/10 8:34 AM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 07:06:04 -0500, wrote:

On 12/8/10 6:34 AM, Paul@BYC wrote:
On 12/7/2010 9:53 PM, Tim wrote:
This is not only a historic day for the United States, but also
involved our Navy, and it's ships. Really big boats.



I had to sort through about 200 posts this morning to find this post,
which is at least sort of boating related and not snotty. Congratulations!


Since you made this post, make that 201 snotty posts. Congratulations.


Amen.



Your boy is spoofin' away this morning, John. Your boy because he is on
your side of the political fence, eh?

Jack. December 8th 10 02:38 PM

Today- "A day that will live in infamy." -FDR, December 7, 1941
 
On Dec 8, 9:17*am, HarryK wrote:
On 12/8/10 8:34 AM, John H wrote:

On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 07:06:04 -0500, *wrote:


On 12/8/10 6:34 AM, Paul@BYC wrote:
On 12/7/2010 9:53 PM, Tim wrote:
This is not only a historic day for the United States, but also
involved our Navy, and it's ships. Really big boats.


I had to sort through about 200 posts this morning to find this post,
which is at least sort of boating related and not snotty. Congratulations!


Since you made this post, make that 201 snotty posts. * Congratulations.


Amen.


Your boy is spoofin' away this morning, John. Your boy because he is on
your side of the political fence, eh?


202 snotty posts.

Ziggy®[_2_] December 8th 10 03:38 PM

Today- "A day that will live in infamy." -FDR, December 7, 1941
 
"Paul@BYC" wrote in message ...
On 12/7/2010 9:53 PM, Tim wrote:
This is not only a historic day for the United States, but also
involved our Navy, and it's ships. Really big boats.



I had to sort through about 200 posts this morning to find this post,
which is at least sort of boating related and not snotty. Congratulations!



At least the post you responded to was not snotty. Boo!

--
Ziggy®

Hairy Scab December 8th 10 04:21 PM

Today- "A day that will live in infamy." -FDR, December 7, 1941
 
In article , payer33859
@mypacks.net says...

On 12/8/10 8:34 AM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 07:06:04 -0500, wrote:

On 12/8/10 6:34 AM, Paul@BYC wrote:
On 12/7/2010 9:53 PM, Tim wrote:
This is not only a historic day for the United States, but also
involved our Navy, and it's ships. Really big boats.



I had to sort through about 200 posts this morning to find this post,
which is at least sort of boating related and not snotty. Congratulations!

Since you made this post, make that 201 snotty posts. Congratulations.


Amen.



Your boy is spoofin' away this morning, John. Your boy because he is on
your side of the political fence, eh?


I wondered how long it would take you to start your political bull****.

HarryK[_3_] December 8th 10 04:28 PM

Today- "A day that will live in infamy." -FDR, December 7, 1941
 
On 12/8/10 11:21 AM, Hairy Scab wrote:
In , payer33859
@mypacks.net says...

On 12/8/10 8:34 AM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 07:06:04 -0500, wrote:

On 12/8/10 6:34 AM, Paul@BYC wrote:
On 12/7/2010 9:53 PM, Tim wrote:
This is not only a historic day for the United States, but also
involved our Navy, and it's ships. Really big boats.



I had to sort through about 200 posts this morning to find this post,
which is at least sort of boating related and not snotty. Congratulations!

Since you made this post, make that 201 snotty posts. Congratulations.

Amen.



Your boy is spoofin' away this morning, John. Your boy because he is on
your side of the political fence, eh?


I wondered how long it would take you to start your political bull****.


I am the only person in rec.boats who is not involved in political or
inflammatory post. The righties are doing their best to destroy
rec.boats. I am doing everything I can to encourage boating topics and
stay away from political and religious topics. As far as I am
concerned 99% of those who post in rec.boats are assholes and I have no
desire to communicate with them, which is why I ignore them and their posts.

HarryK[_3_] December 8th 10 04:49 PM

Today- "A day that will live in infamy." -FDR, December 7, 1941
 
On 12/8/2010 11:28 AM, HarryK wrote:
On 12/8/10 11:21 AM, Hairy Scab wrote:
In , payer33859
@mypacks.net says...

On 12/8/10 8:34 AM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 07:06:04 -0500, wrote:

On 12/8/10 6:34 AM, Paul@BYC wrote:
On 12/7/2010 9:53 PM, Tim wrote:
This is not only a historic day for the United States, but also
involved our Navy, and it's ships. Really big boats.



I had to sort through about 200 posts this morning to find this post,
which is at least sort of boating related and not snotty.
Congratulations!

Since you made this post, make that 201 snotty posts. Congratulations.

Amen.


Your boy is spoofin' away this morning, John. Your boy because he is on
your side of the political fence, eh?


I wondered how long it would take you to start your political bull****.


I am the only person in rec.boats who is not involved in political or
inflammatory post. The righties are doing their best to destroy
rec.boats. I am doing everything I can to encourage boating topics and
stay away from political and religious topics. As far as I am concerned
99% of those who post in rec.boats are assholes and I have no desire to
communicate with them, which is why I ignore them and their posts.


Spoofer alert.

I will continue to communicate with whomever I want to, and I do not
ignore them or their posts. When necessary, I call it as I see it.

Hairy Scab December 8th 10 05:43 PM

Today- "A day that will live in infamy." -FDR, December 7, 1941
 
In article ,
says...

On 12/8/2010 11:28 AM, HarryK wrote:
On 12/8/10 11:21 AM, Hairy Scab wrote:
In , payer33859
@mypacks.net says...

On 12/8/10 8:34 AM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 07:06:04 -0500, wrote:

On 12/8/10 6:34 AM, Paul@BYC wrote:
On 12/7/2010 9:53 PM, Tim wrote:
This is not only a historic day for the United States, but also
involved our Navy, and it's ships. Really big boats.



I had to sort through about 200 posts this morning to find this post,
which is at least sort of boating related and not snotty.
Congratulations!

Since you made this post, make that 201 snotty posts. Congratulations.

Amen.


Your boy is spoofin' away this morning, John. Your boy because he is on
your side of the political fence, eh?

I wondered how long it would take you to start your political bull****.


I am the only person in rec.boats who is not involved in political or
inflammatory post. The righties are doing their best to destroy
rec.boats. I am doing everything I can to encourage boating topics and
stay away from political and religious topics. As far as I am concerned
99% of those who post in rec.boats are assholes and I have no desire to
communicate with them, which is why I ignore them and their posts.


Spoofer alert.

I will continue to communicate with whomever I want to, and I do not
ignore them or their posts. When necessary, I call it as I see it.


Yep, and you see it as EVERYTHING is a right versus left thing, eh?

HarryK[_6_] December 8th 10 05:52 PM

Today- "A day that will live in infamy." -FDR, December 7, 1941
 
On 12/8/2010 12:43 PM, Hairy Scab wrote:
In articleYKednX9OKdCLKmLRnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@giganews. com,
says...

On 12/8/2010 11:28 AM, HarryK wrote:
On 12/8/10 11:21 AM, Hairy Scab wrote:
In , payer33859
@mypacks.net says...

On 12/8/10 8:34 AM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 07:06:04 -0500, wrote:

On 12/8/10 6:34 AM, Paul@BYC wrote:
On 12/7/2010 9:53 PM, Tim wrote:
This is not only a historic day for the United States, but also
involved our Navy, and it's ships. Really big boats.



I had to sort through about 200 posts this morning to find this post,
which is at least sort of boating related and not snotty.
Congratulations!

Since you made this post, make that 201 snotty posts. Congratulations.

Amen.


Your boy is spoofin' away this morning, John. Your boy because he is on
your side of the political fence, eh?

I wondered how long it would take you to start your political bull****.

I am the only person in rec.boats who is not involved in political or
inflammatory post. The righties are doing their best to destroy
rec.boats. I am doing everything I can to encourage boating topics and
stay away from political and religious topics. As far as I am concerned
99% of those who post in rec.boats are assholes and I have no desire to
communicate with them, which is why I ignore them and their posts.


Spoofer alert.

I will continue to communicate with whomever I want to, and I do not
ignore them or their posts. When necessary, I call it as I see it.


Yep, and you see it as EVERYTHING is a right versus left thing, eh?



You feeble minded righties have a myopic view of the world. Go get a
liberal arts education and then check back.

mmc December 8th 10 06:23 PM

Today- "A day that will live in infamy." -FDR, December 7, 1941
 


"Tim" wrote in message
...

While bypassing the bickering, I thought I'd post a reminder of one of
the most solemn days in U.S History, via the attack on Pearl harbor
and the sinking of the crippling of the Pacific fleet.

Remembering the day.

-------

My wife's grandfather was on the Arizona when it went down. He was topside
and survived the attack. We always tip a glass to the old sailor and his
shipmates on 7 December.


HarryK[_4_] December 8th 10 06:47 PM

Today- "A day that will live in infamy." -FDR, December 7, 1941
 
On 12/8/10 1:23 PM, MMC wrote:


"Tim" wrote in message
...

While bypassing the bickering, I thought I'd post a reminder of one of
the most solemn days in U.S History, via the attack on Pearl harbor
and the sinking of the crippling of the Pacific fleet.

Remembering the day.

-------

My wife's grandfather was on the Arizona when it went down. He was
topside and survived the attack. We always tip a glass to the old sailor
and his shipmates on 7 December.



It's good to remember the people, especially relatives and friends, who
were involved in the great events of their day. I lost two uncles during
WW II that I never met. My parents (each lost a brother) and
grandparents talked some about their war dead and there were a few old
photos, but that's all there was.

I presume your wife got to know her grandfather after the war.

My father and his older brother, both of whom had been working for their
uncle during the Depression, started up a part-time small machine shop
in New Haven just before the war, and were subcontractors to several
Waterbury-based brass companies during the war, which kept both of them
out of it. I think they worked the shop on the weekends. I don't have
real details, but my father and uncle were involved in the relatively
low-tech production aspects of "experimental" shell casings for the
Watervliet Arsenal up near Albany, NY. They apparently were pretty good
at it, since they received numerous awards for their work.
Not bad for a couple of liberal arts graduates of a Pennsylvania college!

After the war, my dad went into the boat, motorcycle and motor scooter
business. The uncle opened an appliance store in Massachusetts, but sold
it after a decade to go into the manufacture and sale of outdoor
sporting and camping gear and clothing.

These were the opportunities of first-generation Americans.





Eddie December 8th 10 07:46 PM

Today- "A day that will live in infamy." -FDR, December 7, 1941
 
On Wed, 8 Dec 2010 08:32:53 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article 4486b8e5-bd03-42b1-b431-
, says...


Remembering the day.


My dad was there a child of 5 along with his sister watching the planes.
His one vivid memory of that day is the face of one Japanese pilot he
saw. Also, my grand-fathers ship the USS Shaw, the famous explosion
picture, was there and my grand-mother took most of the photos in the
hours and days after that were used by the media and the government.

BAR, my wife was also a witness to the attack that day. But unlike
your dad, my wife's father didn't waste anytime and hustled all the
little ones (there were 5 of them) into his bomb shelter (yes, he
built a bomb shelter in the backyard - I guess he was way ahead of his
time)
All she remembers are the planes in the sky and the sound of
explosions. She was 5yrs 3mo old.
I have read of old timers, mostly servicemen tell about seeing the
Japanese pilots in their planes. That might be true, but I doubt if a
five-year old civilian saw the same thing. Betcha your dad kinda
embellished his recount of that day. Many old timers tend to do this.
My father-in-law later helped in the raising of some of the sunken
American ships. He was a welder and worked at PH for the duration of
the war. Right after the war he moved his family to Omao, Kauai where
he built many homes. He retired after working 20 years with the state
of Hawaii.

Eddie

John H[_2_] December 8th 10 08:26 PM

Today- "A day that will live in infamy." -FDR, December 7, 1941
 
On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 09:17:36 -0500, HarryK wrote:

On 12/8/10 8:34 AM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 07:06:04 -0500, wrote:

On 12/8/10 6:34 AM, Paul@BYC wrote:
On 12/7/2010 9:53 PM, Tim wrote:
This is not only a historic day for the United States, but also
involved our Navy, and it's ships. Really big boats.



I had to sort through about 200 posts this morning to find this post,
which is at least sort of boating related and not snotty. Congratulations!

Since you made this post, make that 201 snotty posts. Congratulations.


Amen.



Your boy is spoofin' away this morning, John. Your boy because he is on
your side of the political fence, eh?


Don't know and don't care. Maybe one day you'll learn to ignore him, or her. I
don't count out the plum, who may well be trying to keep the pot stirred.

HarryK[_4_] December 8th 10 11:04 PM

Today- "A day that will live in infamy." -FDR, December 7, 1941
 
On 12/8/10 3:26 PM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 09:17:36 -0500, wrote:

On 12/8/10 8:34 AM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 07:06:04 -0500, wrote:

On 12/8/10 6:34 AM, Paul@BYC wrote:
On 12/7/2010 9:53 PM, Tim wrote:
This is not only a historic day for the United States, but also
involved our Navy, and it's ships. Really big boats.



I had to sort through about 200 posts this morning to find this post,
which is at least sort of boating related and not snotty. Congratulations!

Since you made this post, make that 201 snotty posts. Congratulations.

Amen.



Your boy is spoofin' away this morning, John. Your boy because he is on
your side of the political fence, eh?


Don't know and don't care. Maybe one day you'll learn to ignore him, or her. I
don't count out the plum, who may well be trying to keep the pot stirred.



Hey, so long as "Ziggy" and his fellow cluster****ers are active here,
there will be no peace in the valley and the newsgroup will continue to
shrink.

Ziggy®[_2_] December 8th 10 11:27 PM

Today- "A day that will live in infamy." -FDR, December 7, 1941
 
"HarryK" wrote in message ...
On 12/8/10 3:26 PM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 09:17:36 -0500, wrote:

On 12/8/10 8:34 AM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 07:06:04 -0500, wrote:

On 12/8/10 6:34 AM, Paul@BYC wrote:
On 12/7/2010 9:53 PM, Tim wrote:
This is not only a historic day for the United States, but also
involved our Navy, and it's ships. Really big boats.



I had to sort through about 200 posts this morning to find this post,
which is at least sort of boating related and not snotty. Congratulations!

Since you made this post, make that 201 snotty posts. Congratulations.

Amen.


Your boy is spoofin' away this morning, John. Your boy because he is on
your side of the political fence, eh?


Don't know and don't care. Maybe one day you'll learn to ignore him, or her. I
don't count out the plum, who may well be trying to keep the pot stirred.



Hey, so long as "Ziggy" and his fellow cluster****ers are active here,
there will be no peace in the valley and the newsgroup will continue to
shrink.


I can see by your statement above that you refuse to enter into truce negotiations. The ball is in your court. I'm willing to attempt a settlement. Speaking only for myself, mind you.

--
Ziggy®

BAR[_2_] December 9th 10 01:40 AM

Today- "A day that will live in infamy." -FDR, December 7, 1941
 
In article , hawaii-50
@sbcglobal.net says...

On Wed, 8 Dec 2010 08:32:53 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article 4486b8e5-bd03-42b1-b431-
, says...


Remembering the day.


My dad was there a child of 5 along with his sister watching the planes.
His one vivid memory of that day is the face of one Japanese pilot he
saw. Also, my grand-fathers ship the USS Shaw, the famous explosion
picture, was there and my grand-mother took most of the photos in the
hours and days after that were used by the media and the government.

BAR, my wife was also a witness to the attack that day. But unlike
your dad, my wife's father didn't waste anytime and hustled all the
little ones (there were 5 of them) into his bomb shelter (yes, he
built a bomb shelter in the backyard - I guess he was way ahead of his
time)
All she remembers are the planes in the sky and the sound of
explosions. She was 5yrs 3mo old.
I have read of old timers, mostly servicemen tell about seeing the
Japanese pilots in their planes. That might be true, but I doubt if a
five-year old civilian saw the same thing. Betcha your dad kinda
embellished his recount of that day. Many old timers tend to do this.
My father-in-law later helped in the raising of some of the sunken
American ships. He was a welder and worked at PH for the duration of
the war. Right after the war he moved his family to Omao, Kauai where
he built many homes. He retired after working 20 years with the state
of Hawaii.

Eddie


My dad didn't talk about Pearl Harbor much, not even when we lived their
in the late 60's. I have often wondered what thought while the movie
Tora Tora Tora was being filmed. They even used the wardroom of the ship
he had command of to film a couple of scenes for the movie.

There is a book "Hawaii Goes to War: The Aftermath of Pearl Harbor"
written by my aunt and her husband. It concentrates mostly about the
what happened form the civilian side of things and what my aunts
perspective was. My uncle has written many history books. It doesn't
have a lot about my dad in it, some pictures and a reference her and
there, mostly because it was written from my aunts perspective.

You can get copies through Amazon for as little as $3.50. There are some
fantastic pictures of some of the battle ships and some other images
from around the island that most have never seen.



Tim December 9th 10 02:13 AM

Today- "A day that will live in infamy." -FDR, December 7, 1941
 
On Dec 8, 7:40*pm, BAR wrote:
In article , hawaii-50
@sbcglobal.net says...





On Wed, 8 Dec 2010 08:32:53 -0500, BAR wrote:


In article 4486b8e5-bd03-42b1-b431-
, says....


Remembering the day.


My dad was there a child of 5 along with his sister watching the planes.
His one vivid memory of that day is the face of one Japanese pilot he
saw. Also, my grand-fathers ship the USS Shaw, the famous explosion
picture, was there and my grand-mother took most of the photos in the
hours and days after that were used by the media and the government.


BAR, my wife was also a witness to the attack that day. *But unlike
your dad, my wife's father didn't waste anytime and hustled all the
little ones (there were 5 of them) into his bomb shelter (yes, he
built a bomb shelter in the backyard - I guess he was way ahead of his
time)
All she remembers are the planes in the sky and the sound of
explosions. *She was 5yrs 3mo old.
I have read of old timers, mostly servicemen tell about seeing the
Japanese pilots in their planes. *That might be true, but I doubt if a
five-year old civilian saw the same thing. *Betcha your dad kinda
embellished his recount of that day. *Many old timers tend to do this..
My father-in-law later helped in the raising of some of the sunken
American ships. *He was a welder and worked at PH for the duration of
the war. *Right after the war he moved his family to Omao, Kauai where
he built many homes. *He retired after working 20 years with the state
of Hawaii.


Eddie


My dad didn't talk about Pearl Harbor much, not even when we lived their
in the late 60's. I have often wondered what thought while the movie
Tora Tora Tora was being filmed. They even used the wardroom of the ship
he had command of to film a couple of scenes for the movie.

There is a book "Hawaii Goes to War: The Aftermath of Pearl Harbor"
written by my aunt and her husband. It concentrates mostly about the
what happened form the civilian side of things and what my aunts
perspective was. My uncle has written many history books. It doesn't
have a lot about my dad in it, some pictures and a reference her and
there, mostly because it was written from my aunts perspective.

You can get copies through Amazon for as little as $3.50. There are some
fantastic pictures of some of the battle ships and some other images
from around the island that most have never seen.


I'll look for it.

thanks!

BAR[_2_] December 9th 10 01:16 PM

Today- "A day that will live in infamy." -FDR, December 7, 1941
 
In article ,
says...

I will continue to communicate with whomever I want to, and I do not
ignore them or their posts. When necessary, I call it as I see it.


Yep, and you see it as EVERYTHING is a right versus left thing, eh?



You feeble minded righties have a myopic view of the world. Go get a
liberal arts education and then check back.


Meaning, until you agree with me you are wrong on everything.



HarryK[_4_] December 9th 10 01:24 PM

Today- "A day that will live in infamy." -FDR, December 7, 1941
 
On 12/9/10 8:16 AM, BAR wrote:
In article64qdnQIT2f92WGLRnZ2dnUVZ_v2dnZ2d@giganews. com,
says...

I will continue to communicate with whomever I want to, and I do not
ignore them or their posts. When necessary, I call it as I see it.

Yep, and you see it as EVERYTHING is a right versus left thing, eh?



You feeble minded righties have a myopic view of the world. Go get a
liberal arts education and then check back.


Meaning, until you agree with me you are wrong on everything.




I'd have to have suffered an endless serious of brain injuries to agree
with you on everything.

HarryK[_4_] December 9th 10 01:24 PM

Today- "A day that will live in infamy." -FDR, December 7, 1941
 
On 12/9/10 8:24 AM, HarryK wrote:
On 12/9/10 8:16 AM, BAR wrote:
In article64qdnQIT2f92WGLRnZ2dnUVZ_v2dnZ2d@giganews. com,
says...

I will continue to communicate with whomever I want to, and I do not
ignore them or their posts. When necessary, I call it as I see it.

Yep, and you see it as EVERYTHING is a right versus left thing, eh?


You feeble minded righties have a myopic view of the world. Go get a
liberal arts education and then check back.


Meaning, until you agree with me you are wrong on everything.




I'd have to have suffered an endless serious of brain injuries to agree
with you on everything.


And an endless series, too! :)


Harry Scary December 9th 10 01:50 PM

Today- "A day that will live in infamy." -FDR, December 7, 1941
 
In article ,
says...

On 12/8/10 3:26 PM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 09:17:36 -0500, wrote:

On 12/8/10 8:34 AM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 07:06:04 -0500, wrote:

On 12/8/10 6:34 AM, Paul@BYC wrote:
On 12/7/2010 9:53 PM, Tim wrote:
This is not only a historic day for the United States, but also
involved our Navy, and it's ships. Really big boats.



I had to sort through about 200 posts this morning to find this post,
which is at least sort of boating related and not snotty. Congratulations!

Since you made this post, make that 201 snotty posts. Congratulations.

Amen.


Your boy is spoofin' away this morning, John. Your boy because he is on
your side of the political fence, eh?


Don't know and don't care. Maybe one day you'll learn to ignore him, or her. I
don't count out the plum, who may well be trying to keep the pot stirred.



Hey, so long as "Ziggy" and his fellow cluster****ers are active here,
there will be no peace in the valley and the newsgroup will continue to
shrink.


Nice name calling and insulting! That should help with the newsgroup
harmony.

Harry Scary December 9th 10 02:13 PM

Today- "A day that will live in infamy." -FDR, December 7, 1941
 
In article , payer33859
@mypacks.net says...

On 12/9/10 8:16 AM, BAR wrote:
In article64qdnQIT2f92WGLRnZ2dnUVZ_v2dnZ2d@giganews. com,
says...

I will continue to communicate with whomever I want to, and I do not
ignore them or their posts. When necessary, I call it as I see it.

Yep, and you see it as EVERYTHING is a right versus left thing, eh?


You feeble minded righties have a myopic view of the world. Go get a
liberal arts education and then check back.


Meaning, until you agree with me you are wrong on everything.




I'd have to have suffered an endless serious of brain injuries to agree
with you on everything.


Nice insulting! That should help with the harmony of the group.

Paul@BYC[_2_] December 9th 10 05:01 PM

Today- "A day that will live in infamy." -FDR, December 7, 1941
 
On 12/9/2010 8:50 AM, Harry Scary wrote:
In ,
says...

On 12/8/10 3:26 PM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 09:17:36 -0500, wrote:

On 12/8/10 8:34 AM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 07:06:04 -0500, wrote:

On 12/8/10 6:34 AM, Paul@BYC wrote:
On 12/7/2010 9:53 PM, Tim wrote:
This is not only a historic day for the United States, but also
involved our Navy, and it's ships. Really big boats.



I had to sort through about 200 posts this morning to find this post,
which is at least sort of boating related and not snotty. Congratulations!

Since you made this post, make that 201 snotty posts. Congratulations.

Amen.


Your boy is spoofin' away this morning, John. Your boy because he is on
your side of the political fence, eh?

Don't know and don't care. Maybe one day you'll learn to ignore him, or her. I
don't count out the plum, who may well be trying to keep the pot stirred.



Hey, so long as "Ziggy" and his fellow cluster****ers are active here,
there will be no peace in the valley and the newsgroup will continue to
shrink.


Nice name calling and insulting! That should help with the newsgroup
harmony.



Are you running for newsgroup clown or newsgroup idiot? I ask because no
matter what handle you use here, most of your posts are almost exactly
the same. You surely are not contributing to "newsgroup harmony."

Other than your attempts to harass a couple of posters, is there any
reason for your presence in this newsgroup? Hell, man, the people you
are trying to annoy the most either have you filtered or ignore you. How
satisfying can that be?

Your sort of behavior doesn't help bring about an atmosphere in which
grown-up conversation is encouraged.

Why not try to be someone who contributes instead of someone who
denigrates? If you can't do that, why not move on to a usenet group
where your sort of posting is appreciated?

Harry Scary December 9th 10 05:07 PM

Today- "A day that will live in infamy." -FDR, December 7, 1941
 
In article ,
says...

On 12/9/2010 8:50 AM, Harry Scary wrote:
In ,

says...

On 12/8/10 3:26 PM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 09:17:36 -0500, wrote:

On 12/8/10 8:34 AM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 07:06:04 -0500, wrote:

On 12/8/10 6:34 AM, Paul@BYC wrote:
On 12/7/2010 9:53 PM, Tim wrote:
This is not only a historic day for the United States, but also
involved our Navy, and it's ships. Really big boats.



I had to sort through about 200 posts this morning to find this post,
which is at least sort of boating related and not snotty. Congratulations!

Since you made this post, make that 201 snotty posts. Congratulations.

Amen.


Your boy is spoofin' away this morning, John. Your boy because he is on
your side of the political fence, eh?

Don't know and don't care. Maybe one day you'll learn to ignore him, or her. I
don't count out the plum, who may well be trying to keep the pot stirred.


Hey, so long as "Ziggy" and his fellow cluster****ers are active here,
there will be no peace in the valley and the newsgroup will continue to
shrink.


Nice name calling and insulting! That should help with the newsgroup
harmony.



Are you running for newsgroup clown or newsgroup idiot? I ask because no
matter what handle you use here, most of your posts are almost exactly
the same. You surely are not contributing to "newsgroup harmony."

Other than your attempts to harass a couple of posters, is there any
reason for your presence in this newsgroup? Hell, man, the people you
are trying to annoy the most either have you filtered or ignore you. How
satisfying can that be?


I am trying to maintain the group harmony. Insulting and name calling
(like you are doing above) does nothing to help in this endeavor.

HarryK[_4_] December 9th 10 05:09 PM

Today- "A day that will live in infamy." -FDR, December 7, 1941
 
On 12/9/10 12:01 PM, Paul@BYC wrote:
On 12/9/2010 8:50 AM, Harry Scary wrote:
In ,
says...

On 12/8/10 3:26 PM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 09:17:36 -0500,
wrote:

On 12/8/10 8:34 AM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 07:06:04 -0500, wrote:

On 12/8/10 6:34 AM, Paul@BYC wrote:
On 12/7/2010 9:53 PM, Tim wrote:
This is not only a historic day for the United States, but also
involved our Navy, and it's ships. Really big boats.



I had to sort through about 200 posts this morning to find this
post,
which is at least sort of boating related and not snotty.
Congratulations!

Since you made this post, make that 201 snotty posts.
Congratulations.

Amen.


Your boy is spoofin' away this morning, John. Your boy because he
is on
your side of the political fence, eh?

Don't know and don't care. Maybe one day you'll learn to ignore him,
or her. I
don't count out the plum, who may well be trying to keep the pot
stirred.


Hey, so long as "Ziggy" and his fellow cluster****ers are active here,
there will be no peace in the valley and the newsgroup will continue to
shrink.


Nice name calling and insulting! That should help with the newsgroup
harmony.



Are you running for newsgroup clown or newsgroup idiot? I ask because no
matter what handle you use here, most of your posts are almost exactly
the same. You surely are not contributing to "newsgroup harmony."

Other than your attempts to harass a couple of posters, is there any
reason for your presence in this newsgroup? Hell, man, the people you
are trying to annoy the most either have you filtered or ignore you. How
satisfying can that be?

Your sort of behavior doesn't help bring about an atmosphere in which
grown-up conversation is encouraged.

Why not try to be someone who contributes instead of someone who
denigrates? If you can't do that, why not move on to a usenet group
where your sort of posting is appreciated?




If you are trying to reach ol'Crotchrot, whose current handle is Harry
Scary, you are using too many words and many of those words have too
many syllables.

He obviously has no interest in "newsgroup harmony." If there was
harmony, he wouldn't be posting here with his current or any other
handle because, well, he doesn't have anything to contribute.

He's probably just another of Ziggy's doppelgängers. Ziggy himself is a
doppelganger, of course, as is the Harry ID spoofer.

HarryK[_3_] December 9th 10 05:54 PM

Today- "A day that will live in infamy." -FDR, December 7, 1941
 
On 12/9/10 12:01 PM, Paul@BYC wrote:
On 12/9/2010 8:50 AM, Harry Scary wrote:
In ,
says...

On 12/8/10 3:26 PM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 09:17:36 -0500,
wrote:

On 12/8/10 8:34 AM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 07:06:04 -0500, wrote:

On 12/8/10 6:34 AM, Paul@BYC wrote:
On 12/7/2010 9:53 PM, Tim wrote:
This is not only a historic day for the United States, but also
involved our Navy, and it's ships. Really big boats.



I had to sort through about 200 posts this morning to find this
post,
which is at least sort of boating related and not snotty.
Congratulations!

Since you made this post, make that 201 snotty posts.
Congratulations.

Amen.


Your boy is spoofin' away this morning, John. Your boy because he
is on
your side of the political fence, eh?

Don't know and don't care. Maybe one day you'll learn to ignore him,
or her. I
don't count out the plum, who may well be trying to keep the pot
stirred.


Hey, so long as "Ziggy" and his fellow cluster****ers are active here,
there will be no peace in the valley and the newsgroup will continue to
shrink.


Nice name calling and insulting! That should help with the newsgroup
harmony.



Are you running for newsgroup clown or newsgroup idiot? I ask because no
matter what handle you use here, most of your posts are almost exactly
the same. You surely are not contributing to "newsgroup harmony."

Other than your attempts to harass a couple of posters, is there any
reason for your presence in this newsgroup? Hell, man, the people you
are trying to annoy the most either have you filtered or ignore you. How
satisfying can that be?

Your sort of behavior doesn't help bring about an atmosphere in which
grown-up conversation is encouraged.

Why not try to be someone who contributes instead of someone who
denigrates? If you can't do that, why not move on to a usenet group
where your sort of posting is appreciated?


I think this is a perfect example of the pot calling the kettle black.
Newsgroup clown and newsgroup idiot does not encourage an atmosphere of
grown up conversation. 99% of your posts are just varieties of this post.

Paul@BYC[_2_] December 9th 10 06:19 PM

Today- "A day that will live in infamy." -FDR, December 7, 1941
 
On 12/9/2010 12:07 PM, Harry Scary wrote:
In ,
says...

On 12/9/2010 8:50 AM, Harry Scary wrote:
In ,

says...

On 12/8/10 3:26 PM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 09:17:36 -0500, wrote:

On 12/8/10 8:34 AM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 07:06:04 -0500, wrote:

On 12/8/10 6:34 AM, Paul@BYC wrote:
On 12/7/2010 9:53 PM, Tim wrote:
This is not only a historic day for the United States, but also
involved our Navy, and it's ships. Really big boats.



I had to sort through about 200 posts this morning to find this post,
which is at least sort of boating related and not snotty. Congratulations!

Since you made this post, make that 201 snotty posts. Congratulations.

Amen.


Your boy is spoofin' away this morning, John. Your boy because he is on
your side of the political fence, eh?

Don't know and don't care. Maybe one day you'll learn to ignore him, or her. I
don't count out the plum, who may well be trying to keep the pot stirred.


Hey, so long as "Ziggy" and his fellow cluster****ers are active here,
there will be no peace in the valley and the newsgroup will continue to
shrink.

Nice name calling and insulting! That should help with the newsgroup
harmony.



Are you running for newsgroup clown or newsgroup idiot? I ask because no
matter what handle you use here, most of your posts are almost exactly
the same. You surely are not contributing to "newsgroup harmony."

Other than your attempts to harass a couple of posters, is there any
reason for your presence in this newsgroup? Hell, man, the people you
are trying to annoy the most either have you filtered or ignore you. How
satisfying can that be?


I am trying to maintain the group harmony.


Bull****. You, Ziggy, the Harry spoofer and LG are only here to stir the
pot and keep it boiling. There's a likelihood that you, Ziggy and the
Harry spoofer are the same jerk-off.

Grow up and grow a pair.



Insulting and name calling
(like you are doing above) does nothing to help in this endeavor.



Harry Scary December 9th 10 06:48 PM

Today- "A day that will live in infamy." -FDR, December 7, 1941
 
In article , payer33859
@mypacks.net says...

On 12/9/10 12:01 PM, Paul@BYC wrote:
On 12/9/2010 8:50 AM, Harry Scary wrote:
In ,
says...

On 12/8/10 3:26 PM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 09:17:36 -0500,
wrote:

On 12/8/10 8:34 AM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 07:06:04 -0500, wrote:

On 12/8/10 6:34 AM, Paul@BYC wrote:
On 12/7/2010 9:53 PM, Tim wrote:
This is not only a historic day for the United States, but also
involved our Navy, and it's ships. Really big boats.



I had to sort through about 200 posts this morning to find this
post,
which is at least sort of boating related and not snotty.
Congratulations!

Since you made this post, make that 201 snotty posts.
Congratulations.

Amen.


Your boy is spoofin' away this morning, John. Your boy because he
is on
your side of the political fence, eh?

Don't know and don't care. Maybe one day you'll learn to ignore him,
or her. I
don't count out the plum, who may well be trying to keep the pot
stirred.


Hey, so long as "Ziggy" and his fellow cluster****ers are active here,
there will be no peace in the valley and the newsgroup will continue to
shrink.

Nice name calling and insulting! That should help with the newsgroup
harmony.



Are you running for newsgroup clown or newsgroup idiot? I ask because no


Nice name calling and insulting. That should help the group harmony.

Harry Scary December 9th 10 06:48 PM

Today- "A day that will live in infamy." -FDR, December 7, 1941
 
In article ,
says...

On 12/9/10 12:01 PM, Paul@BYC wrote:
On 12/9/2010 8:50 AM, Harry Scary wrote:
In ,

says...

On 12/8/10 3:26 PM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 09:17:36 -0500,
wrote:

On 12/8/10 8:34 AM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 07:06:04 -0500, wrote:

On 12/8/10 6:34 AM, Paul@BYC wrote:
On 12/7/2010 9:53 PM, Tim wrote:
This is not only a historic day for the United States, but also
involved our Navy, and it's ships. Really big boats.



I had to sort through about 200 posts this morning to find this
post,
which is at least sort of boating related and not snotty.
Congratulations!

Since you made this post, make that 201 snotty posts.
Congratulations.

Amen.


Your boy is spoofin' away this morning, John. Your boy because he
is on
your side of the political fence, eh?

Don't know and don't care. Maybe one day you'll learn to ignore him,
or her. I
don't count out the plum, who may well be trying to keep the pot
stirred.


Hey, so long as "Ziggy" and his fellow cluster****ers are active here,
there will be no peace in the valley and the newsgroup will continue to
shrink.

Nice name calling and insulting! That should help with the newsgroup
harmony.



Are you running for newsgroup clown or newsgroup idiot? I ask because no


Nice name calling and insulting. That should help with the group
harmony.

Harry Scary December 9th 10 06:49 PM

Today- "A day that will live in infamy." -FDR, December 7, 1941
 
In article ,
says...

On 12/9/2010 12:07 PM, Harry Scary wrote:
In ,
says...

On 12/9/2010 8:50 AM, Harry Scary wrote:
In ,

says...

On 12/8/10 3:26 PM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 09:17:36 -0500, wrote:

On 12/8/10 8:34 AM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 07:06:04 -0500, wrote:

On 12/8/10 6:34 AM, Paul@BYC wrote:
On 12/7/2010 9:53 PM, Tim wrote:
This is not only a historic day for the United States, but also
involved our Navy, and it's ships. Really big boats.



I had to sort through about 200 posts this morning to find this post,
which is at least sort of boating related and not snotty. Congratulations!

Since you made this post, make that 201 snotty posts. Congratulations.

Amen.


Your boy is spoofin' away this morning, John. Your boy because he is on
your side of the political fence, eh?

Don't know and don't care. Maybe one day you'll learn to ignore him, or her. I
don't count out the plum, who may well be trying to keep the pot stirred.


Hey, so long as "Ziggy" and his fellow cluster****ers are active here,
there will be no peace in the valley and the newsgroup will continue to
shrink.

Nice name calling and insulting! That should help with the newsgroup
harmony.


Are you running for newsgroup clown or newsgroup idiot? I ask because no
matter what handle you use here, most of your posts are almost exactly
the same. You surely are not contributing to "newsgroup harmony."

Other than your attempts to harass a couple of posters, is there any


Do you think Harry and Don, etc are acting grown up by name calling and
insulting everyone who doesn't think and do exactly like they do?

John H[_2_] December 9th 10 07:08 PM

Today- "A day that will live in infamy." -FDR, December 7, 1941
 
On Thu, 09 Dec 2010 13:19:49 -0500, "Paul@BYC" wrote:

On 12/9/2010 12:07 PM, Harry Scary wrote:
In ,
says...

On 12/9/2010 8:50 AM, Harry Scary wrote:
In ,

says...

On 12/8/10 3:26 PM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 09:17:36 -0500, wrote:

On 12/8/10 8:34 AM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 07:06:04 -0500, wrote:

On 12/8/10 6:34 AM, Paul@BYC wrote:
On 12/7/2010 9:53 PM, Tim wrote:
This is not only a historic day for the United States, but also
involved our Navy, and it's ships. Really big boats.



I had to sort through about 200 posts this morning to find this post,
which is at least sort of boating related and not snotty. Congratulations!

Since you made this post, make that 201 snotty posts. Congratulations.

Amen.


Your boy is spoofin' away this morning, John. Your boy because he is on
your side of the political fence, eh?

Don't know and don't care. Maybe one day you'll learn to ignore him, or her. I
don't count out the plum, who may well be trying to keep the pot stirred.


Hey, so long as "Ziggy" and his fellow cluster****ers are active here,
there will be no peace in the valley and the newsgroup will continue to
shrink.

Nice name calling and insulting! That should help with the newsgroup
harmony.


Are you running for newsgroup clown or newsgroup idiot? I ask because no
matter what handle you use here, most of your posts are almost exactly
the same. You surely are not contributing to "newsgroup harmony."

Other than your attempts to harass a couple of posters, is there any
reason for your presence in this newsgroup? Hell, man, the people you
are trying to annoy the most either have you filtered or ignore you. How
satisfying can that be?


I am trying to maintain the group harmony.


Bull****. You, Ziggy, the Harry spoofer and LG are only here to stir the
pot and keep it boiling. There's a likelihood that you, Ziggy and the
Harry spoofer are the same jerk-off.

Grow up and grow a pair.



Insulting and name calling
(like you are doing above) does nothing to help in this endeavor.


As long as you and Harry respond to their posts, as though obsessed, they're
recieving the attention they want.

Grow up, both of you. Learn to ignore ****.

Harry Scary December 9th 10 07:31 PM

Today- "A day that will live in infamy." -FDR, December 7, 1941
 
In article ,
says...

On Thu, 09 Dec 2010 13:19:49 -0500, "Paul@BYC" wrote:

On 12/9/2010 12:07 PM, Harry Scary wrote:
In ,
says...

On 12/9/2010 8:50 AM, Harry Scary wrote:
In ,

says...

On 12/8/10 3:26 PM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 09:17:36 -0500, wrote:

On 12/8/10 8:34 AM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 07:06:04 -0500, wrote:

On 12/8/10 6:34 AM, Paul@BYC wrote:
On 12/7/2010 9:53 PM, Tim wrote:
This is not only a historic day for the United States, but also
involved our Navy, and it's ships. Really big boats.



I had to sort through about 200 posts this morning to find this post,
which is at least sort of boating related and not snotty. Congratulations!

Since you made this post, make that 201 snotty posts. Congratulations.

Amen.


Your boy is spoofin' away this morning, John. Your boy because he is on
your side of the political fence, eh?

Don't know and don't care. Maybe one day you'll learn to ignore him, or her. I
don't count out the plum, who may well be trying to keep the pot stirred.


Hey, so long as "Ziggy" and his fellow cluster****ers are active here,
there will be no peace in the valley and the newsgroup will continue to
shrink.

Nice name calling and insulting! That should help with the newsgroup
harmony.


Are you running for newsgroup clown or newsgroup idiot? I ask because no
matter what handle you use here, most of your posts are almost exactly
the same. You surely are not contributing to "newsgroup harmony."


And now YOU are starting with the insulting behavior. Guess you are
going to follow Harry and Don's lead, huh?


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