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Today- "A day that will live in infamy." -FDR, December 7, 1941
On 12/9/2010 1:19 PM, Paul@BYC wrote:
Grow up and grow a pair. Sit down and shut up, you pretentious, pompous ass. :) |
Today- "A day that will live in infamy." -FDR, December 7, 1941
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On Tue, 7 Dec 2010 18:53:41 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: This is not only a historic day for the United States, but also involved our Navy, and it's ships. Really big boats. Personally I prefer celebrating the Battle of Midway. That was when we started sinking their boats. (First week of June) I do appreciate that we have changed the flag etiquette for 12/7 Now we start at half mast in the morning and at noon you run it to the top of the pole. Reply: Yup. Couple of years ago we were at the local VA hospital with valentine cards and one guy is a riot. Gets to telling us about doing photo recon in the South Pacific and is getting ready to go fly and the local commander tells him they are loading him with bombs, no recon today. Go bomb the Japanese at Midway. Some great story were told. No bragging, just telling how life was as a young man in the Aircorp. |
Today- "A day that will live in infamy." -FDR, December 7, 1941
On Dec 10, 9:56*pm, "Califbill" wrote:
wrote in messagenews:po2uf6lh8mlrresr8vhlpnvgchuirhvnqr@4ax .com... On Tue, 7 Dec 2010 18:53:41 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: This is not only a historic day for the United States, but also involved our Navy, and it's ships. *Really big boats. Personally I prefer celebrating the Battle of Midway. That was when we started sinking their boats. (First week of June) I do appreciate that we have changed the flag etiquette for 12/7 Now we start at half mast in the morning and at noon you run it to the top of the pole. Reply: Yup. *Couple of years ago we were at the local VA hospital with valentine cards and one guy is a riot. *Gets to telling us about doing photo recon in the South Pacific and is getting ready to go fly and the local commander tells him they are loading him with bombs, no recon today. *Go bomb the Japanese at Midway. *Some great story were told. *No bragging, just telling how life was as a young man in the Aircorp. "I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve."-Isoroku Yamamoto |
Today- "A day that will live in infamy." -FDR, December 7, 1941
On 12/11/10 12:06 AM, Tim wrote:
On Dec 10, 9:56 pm, wrote: wrote in messagenews:po2uf6lh8mlrresr8vhlpnvgchuirhvnqr@4ax .com... On Tue, 7 Dec 2010 18:53:41 -0800 (PST), wrote: This is not only a historic day for the United States, but also involved our Navy, and it's ships. Really big boats. Personally I prefer celebrating the Battle of Midway. That was when we started sinking their boats. (First week of June) I do appreciate that we have changed the flag etiquette for 12/7 Now we start at half mast in the morning and at noon you run it to the top of the pole. Reply: Yup. Couple of years ago we were at the local VA hospital with valentine cards and one guy is a riot. Gets to telling us about doing photo recon in the South Pacific and is getting ready to go fly and the local commander tells him they are loading him with bombs, no recon today. Go bomb the Japanese at Midway. Some great story were told. No bragging, just telling how life was as a young man in the Aircorp. "I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve."-Isoroku Yamamoto It is a great line, but it was most likely created by a Hollywood screenwriter, and is not a quote by the Admiral. from Wikipedia Neither At Dawn We Slept, written by Gordon Prange, nor The Reluctant Admiral, the definitive biography of Yamamoto in English by Hiroyuki Agawa, contain the line. Randall Wallace, the screenwriter of Pearl Harbor, readily admitted that he copied the line from Tora! Tora! Tora!. The director of Tora! Tora! Tora!, Richard Fleischer, stated that while Yamamoto may never have said those words, the film's producer, Elmo Williams, had found the line written in Yamamoto's diary. Williams, in turn, has stated that Larry Forrester, the screenwriter, found a 1943 letter from Yamamoto to the Admiralty in Tokyo containing the quotation. However, Forrester cannot produce the letter, nor can anyone else, American or Japanese, recall or find it. |
Today- "A day that will live in infamy." -FDR, December 7, 1941
On Dec 10, 11:13*pm, HarryK wrote:
On 12/11/10 12:06 AM, Tim wrote: On Dec 10, 9:56 pm, *wrote: wrote in messagenews:po2uf6lh8mlrresr8vhlpnvgchuirhvnqr@4ax .com... On Tue, 7 Dec 2010 18:53:41 -0800 (PST), wrote: This is not only a historic day for the United States, but also involved our Navy, and it's ships. *Really big boats. Personally I prefer celebrating the Battle of Midway. That was when we started sinking their boats. (First week of June) I do appreciate that we have changed the flag etiquette for 12/7 Now we start at half mast in the morning and at noon you run it to the top of the pole. Reply: Yup. *Couple of years ago we were at the local VA hospital with valentine cards and one guy is a riot. *Gets to telling us about doing photo recon in the South Pacific and is getting ready to go fly and the local commander tells him they are loading him with bombs, no recon today. *Go bomb the Japanese at Midway. *Some great story were told. *No bragging, just telling how life was as a young man in the Aircorp. "I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve."-Isoroku Yamamoto It is a great line, but it was most likely created by a Hollywood screenwriter, and is not a quote by the Admiral. from Wikipedia Neither At Dawn We Slept, written by Gordon Prange, nor The Reluctant Admiral, the definitive biography of Yamamoto in English by Hiroyuki Agawa, contain the line. Randall Wallace, the screenwriter of Pearl Harbor, readily admitted that he copied the line from Tora! Tora! Tora!. The director of Tora! Tora! Tora!, Richard Fleischer, stated that while Yamamoto may never have said those words, the film's producer, Elmo Williams, had found the line written in Yamamoto's diary. Williams, in turn, has stated that Larry Forrester, the screenwriter, found a 1943 letter from Yamamoto to the Admiralty in Tokyo containing the quotation. However, Forrester cannot produce the letter, nor can anyone else, American or Japanese, recall or find it. OK, so which line didn't they use? The long? or the short version? same wiki "Japanese Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto is portrayed at the very end of the 1970 film Tora! Tora! Tora!, and in the 2001 film Pearl Harbor, as saying after his attack on Pearl Harbor, "I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve."[1] The supposed quotation was abbreviated in the film Pearl Harbor (2001), where it merely read, "I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant." |
Today- "A day that will live in infamy." -FDR, December 7, 1941
On 12/11/10 12:29 AM, Tim wrote:
On Dec 10, 11:13 pm, wrote: On 12/11/10 12:06 AM, Tim wrote: On Dec 10, 9:56 pm, wrote: wrote in messagenews:po2uf6lh8mlrresr8vhlpnvgchuirhvnqr@4ax .com... On Tue, 7 Dec 2010 18:53:41 -0800 (PST), wrote: This is not only a historic day for the United States, but also involved our Navy, and it's ships. Really big boats. Personally I prefer celebrating the Battle of Midway. That was when we started sinking their boats. (First week of June) I do appreciate that we have changed the flag etiquette for 12/7 Now we start at half mast in the morning and at noon you run it to the top of the pole. Reply: Yup. Couple of years ago we were at the local VA hospital with valentine cards and one guy is a riot. Gets to telling us about doing photo recon in the South Pacific and is getting ready to go fly and the local commander tells him they are loading him with bombs, no recon today. Go bomb the Japanese at Midway. Some great story were told. No bragging, just telling how life was as a young man in the Aircorp. "I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve."-Isoroku Yamamoto It is a great line, but it was most likely created by a Hollywood screenwriter, and is not a quote by the Admiral. from Wikipedia Neither At Dawn We Slept, written by Gordon Prange, nor The Reluctant Admiral, the definitive biography of Yamamoto in English by Hiroyuki Agawa, contain the line. Randall Wallace, the screenwriter of Pearl Harbor, readily admitted that he copied the line from Tora! Tora! Tora!. The director of Tora! Tora! Tora!, Richard Fleischer, stated that while Yamamoto may never have said those words, the film's producer, Elmo Williams, had found the line written in Yamamoto's diary. Williams, in turn, has stated that Larry Forrester, the screenwriter, found a 1943 letter from Yamamoto to the Admiralty in Tokyo containing the quotation. However, Forrester cannot produce the letter, nor can anyone else, American or Japanese, recall or find it. OK, so which line didn't they use? The long? or the short version? same wiki "Japanese Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto is portrayed at the very end of the 1970 film Tora! Tora! Tora!, and in the 2001 film Pearl Harbor, as saying after his attack on Pearl Harbor, "I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve."[1] The supposed quotation was abbreviated in the film Pearl Harbor (2001), where it merely read, "I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant." If you read the article you quoted it doesn't say either of them can be historically attributed to Admiral Yamamato. They both were written by Hollywood screenwriters, the screenwriter for Pearl Harbor just took the line that was written by the screenwriter for Tora Tora Tora and made a shorter version. No historian can find anyone who attributed the line to Yamamoto, nor does it appear in any of Yamamoto's writing or diary. What is does show is the power of Hollywood to rewrite history. The only way one can believe that this was actually said by the Admiral is if you believe the screenwriter's story that he found a letter written by Yamamoto that contained the quote. After reading the letter, the screenwriter then lost his copy of the letter. Not only did the screenwriter lose his copy of the letter, but no American Historian or Japanese Historian can remember the letter, nor can they find a copy of the letter in any of the archives and historical records. I think most people find the screenwriters story of finding the quote and then losing his copy of the letter containing the quote to be too "Hollywood" even for Hollywood. |
Today- "A day that will live in infamy." -FDR, December 7, 1941
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Today- "A day that will live in infamy." -FDR, December 7, 1941
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Today- "A day that will live in infamy." -FDR, December 7, 1941
On 12/11/2010 9:07 AM, Don Won wrote:
In , says... On 12/11/10 12:29 AM, Tim wrote: On Dec 10, 11:13 pm, wrote: On 12/11/10 12:06 AM, Tim wrote: On Dec 10, 9:56 pm, wrote: wrote in messagenews:po2uf6lh8mlrresr8vhlpnvgchuirhvnqr@4ax .com... On Tue, 7 Dec 2010 18:53:41 -0800 (PST), wrote: This is not only a historic day for the United States, but also involved our Navy, and it's ships. Really big boats. Personally I prefer celebrating the Battle of Midway. That was when we started sinking their boats. (First week of June) I do appreciate that we have changed the flag etiquette for 12/7 Now we start at half mast in the morning and at noon you run it to the top of the pole. Reply: Yup. Couple of years ago we were at the local VA hospital with valentine cards and one guy is a riot. Gets to telling us about doing photo recon in the South Pacific and is getting ready to go fly and the local commander tells him they are loading him with bombs, no recon today. Go bomb the Japanese at Midway. Some great story were told. No bragging, just telling how life was as a young man in the Aircorp. "I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve."-Isoroku Yamamoto It is a great line, but it was most likely created by a Hollywood screenwriter, and is not a quote by the Admiral. from Wikipedia Neither At Dawn We Slept, written by Gordon Prange, nor The Reluctant Admiral, the definitive biography of Yamamoto in English by Hiroyuki Agawa, contain the line. Randall Wallace, the screenwriter of Pearl Harbor, readily admitted that he copied the line from Tora! Tora! Tora!. The director of Tora! Tora! Tora!, Richard Fleischer, stated that while Yamamoto may never have said those words, the film's producer, Elmo Williams, had found the line written in Yamamoto's diary. Williams, in turn, has stated that Larry Forrester, the screenwriter, found a 1943 letter from Yamamoto to the Admiralty in Tokyo containing the quotation. However, Forrester cannot Harry, you are nothing short of an asshole. Always was, always will be. Isn't it amazing how you and the Harry ID spoofer are here at the same time, again? Why, it is almost as if you are both typing from the same computer, and just taking enough time to "shift" servers and posting IDs. Maybe you can get "Ziggy" up, too. |
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