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[email protected] November 23rd 10 09:52 PM

not getting to Barbados the hard way
 
No pun intended...

http://nation.foxnews.com/airport-sc...strips-airport
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[email protected] November 24th 10 07:05 AM

OT not getting to Barbados the hard way
 
On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 00:38:29 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 13:52:08 -0800,
wrote:

No pun intended...

http://nation.foxnews.com/airport-sc...strips-airport


The only thing he did wrong was wait until he got out of the metal
detector. He should have stripped in the line, run his clothes through
with his shoes and laptop, then got dressed on the other side.

I doubt any "indecent exposure" charge sticks if he was wearing
regular underwear so this became one of those infamous "disorderly
conduct" arrests.


I doubt it also, but this whole business is moronic.

http://vodpod.com/watch/4923312-thre...ed-by-tsa?pod=

YukonBound November 24th 10 01:37 PM

OT not getting to Barbados the hard way
 


wrote in message
...
On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 00:38:29 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 13:52:08 -0800,
wrote:

No pun intended...

http://nation.foxnews.com/airport-sc...strips-airport


The only thing he did wrong was wait until he got out of the metal
detector. He should have stripped in the line, run his clothes through
with his shoes and laptop, then got dressed on the other side.

I doubt any "indecent exposure" charge sticks if he was wearing
regular underwear so this became one of those infamous "disorderly
conduct" arrests.


I doubt it also, but this whole business is moronic.

http://vodpod.com/watch/4923312-thre...ed-by-tsa?pod=


I'd say for short distances.... (under 1000 miles), trains are starting to
look a whole lot better.


HarryK[_2_] November 24th 10 01:46 PM

OT not getting to Barbados the hard way
 
On 11/24/10 8:37 AM, YukonBound wrote:


wrote in message
...
On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 00:38:29 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 13:52:08 -0800,
wrote:

No pun intended...

http://nation.foxnews.com/airport-sc...strips-airport



The only thing he did wrong was wait until he got out of the metal
detector. He should have stripped in the line, run his clothes through
with his shoes and laptop, then got dressed on the other side.

I doubt any "indecent exposure" charge sticks if he was wearing
regular underwear so this became one of those infamous "disorderly
conduct" arrests.


I doubt it also, but this whole business is moronic.

http://vodpod.com/watch/4923312-thre...ed-by-tsa?pod=


I'd say for short distances.... (under 1000 miles), trains are starting
to look a whole lot better.



We took the Amtrak Silver Meteor to Florida on Monday, When we went to
the waiting lounge, the attendant looked at my photo ID. That was it.
Pleasant trip, no hassles, slept most of the way. Dining car was ok, too.



Ziggy®[_2_] November 24th 10 04:10 PM

OT not getting to Barbados the hard way
 
"Gene" wrote in message ...
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 23:05:57 -0800, wrote:


I doubt it also, but this whole business is moronic.

http://vodpod.com/watch/4923312-thre...ed-by-tsa?pod=

We had the local TSA morons detain a bunch of suspicious fellows in a
large green vehicle. Forced them to produce ID, assume the position,
and then thoroughly searched them and the subject vehicle for, uh,
something....

Doing their job, you say?

Here's a picture of the suspicious subject vehicle:

http://tinyurl.com/32npc4u

And the suspicious uniformed and badged potential terrifying
terrorists were making one of their twice nightly runs inspecting
runway, approach, and taxiway lights.





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Saw a movie a while ago where the terrorista hijacked a vehicle like that and was determined to ram a certain plane with it and blow it up. Mebbe the zealous TSA workers saw that movie too.

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[email protected] November 24th 10 07:05 PM

OT not getting to Barbados the hard way
 
On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 09:37:38 -0400, "YukonBound"
wrote:



wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 00:38:29 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 13:52:08 -0800,
wrote:

No pun intended...

http://nation.foxnews.com/airport-sc...strips-airport


The only thing he did wrong was wait until he got out of the metal
detector. He should have stripped in the line, run his clothes through
with his shoes and laptop, then got dressed on the other side.

I doubt any "indecent exposure" charge sticks if he was wearing
regular underwear so this became one of those infamous "disorderly
conduct" arrests.


I doubt it also, but this whole business is moronic.

http://vodpod.com/watch/4923312-thre...ed-by-tsa?pod=


I'd say for short distances.... (under 1000 miles), trains are starting to
look a whole lot better.


I take the train to San Jose sometimes. You can buy the ticket on the
train.

We need to stop overreacting and start thinking.

Wayne.B November 24th 10 08:13 PM

OT not getting to Barbados the hard way
 
On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 11:05:16 -0800, wrote:

I take the train to San Jose sometimes.


Do you know the way to San Jose?
I've been away so long. I may go wrong and lose my way.
Do you know the way to San Jose?
I'm going back to find some peace of mind in San Jose.

L.A. is a great big freeway.
Put a hundred down and buy a car.
In a week, maybe two, they'll make you a star
Weeks turn into years. How quck they pass
And all the stars that never were
Are parking cars and pumping gas

You can really breathe in San Jose
They've got a lot of space. There'll be a place where I can stay
I was born and raised in San Jose
I'm going back to find some peace of mind in San Jose.




mmc November 24th 10 08:18 PM

OT not getting to Barbados the hard way
 
I agree with Ken, I'm not afraid of someone seeing my scanned image,
having some guy search me for contraband or making me take off my
jacket and shoes. As long as EVERYONE has to follow the same
production and EVERYONE is subjected to the same inconvenience, we'll
all stay safe.

It's unfortunate things have gotten to this point but, maybe because
of the new rules, at least they got home safe.

-------

The company that makes the screening machines is represented by Michael
Chertoff, former DHS head (DHS owns TSA) and the machines are being bought
with Obama bailout money (another 1,000 for $300M). I guess that makes it
bipartisan?
If the new measures were above board, why can you be charged (and fined up
to $11k) for not playing along instead of just not being allowed to board,
like before?
It's about corruption and coercion, under the BS cover of security.

I'm boycotting air travel until Obamas wife and kids go thru this cr*p.


[email protected] November 24th 10 09:42 PM

OT not getting to Barbados the hard way
 
On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 15:18:16 -0500, "MMC" wrote:

I agree with Ken, I'm not afraid of someone seeing my scanned image,
having some guy search me for contraband or making me take off my
jacket and shoes. As long as EVERYONE has to follow the same
production and EVERYONE is subjected to the same inconvenience, we'll
all stay safe.

It's unfortunate things have gotten to this point but, maybe because
of the new rules, at least they got home safe.

-------

The company that makes the screening machines is represented by Michael
Chertoff, former DHS head (DHS owns TSA) and the machines are being bought
with Obama bailout money (another 1,000 for $300M). I guess that makes it
bipartisan?
If the new measures were above board, why can you be charged (and fined up
to $11k) for not playing along instead of just not being allowed to board,
like before?
It's about corruption and coercion, under the BS cover of security.

I'm boycotting air travel until Obamas wife and kids go thru this cr*p.


There's a big diff between being safe and feeling safe. It's a pretty
widely held understanding that the scanning and groping don't make us
safe. We need intelligent profiling, and we need a layered approach.
Most of this should happen before the airport.

[email protected] November 24th 10 09:45 PM

OT not getting to Barbados the hard way
 
On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 16:00:09 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 11:34:43 -0800 (PST), "Jack."
wrote:

. A few minutes later, a guy empties his pockets and has a pair
of
nail clippers. Nail clippers. TSA informs the Soldier that they’re
going
to confiscate his nail clippers


My BS detector just went off

TSA says
Items permitted in aircraft cabins:

* Pets (if permitted by airline check with airline for procedures)
* Walking canes and umbrellas (once inspected to ensure prohibited
items are not concealed)
* Nail clippers with nail files attached
* Nail files
* Tweezers
* Safety razors (including disposable razors)
* Syringes (with medication and professionally printed label
identifying medication or manufacturer’s name)
* Insulin delivery systems
* Eyelash curlers


And:

Children under 12 are not exempt from patdowns, but they do get a
modified version

Parents do have a right to be present while their kids are being
examined.

You do have a right to a private screening, and a witness may be
present.

The TSA does not allow exemptions based on religious belief or
clothing.



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