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Wayne.B October 27th 10 12:13 PM

Youse guys must be rich
 
On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 06:45:47 -0400, "Paul@BYC"
wrote:

Sure, I'm progressive. I believe in progress, in moving forward, in
extending rights, in scientific development, in opening doors, in making
sure the "play" is fair. I don't believe in scapegoating, in blaming one
ethnic group or another for our society's failures, or in trying to get
ahead by scaring large blocks of nervous people.


Now you've done it - sit back and watch the fur fly.

Are you a sociology professor studying internet behavior?


Paul@BYC October 27th 10 12:36 PM

Youse guys must be rich
 
On 10/27/2010 6:50 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute! wrote:
On Oct 27, 6:45 am, wrote:
On 10/27/2010 6:24 AM, I am Tosk wrote:





In ,
says...


On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 18:00:05 -0400, "Paul@BYC"
wrote:


On 10/26/2010 5:50 PM, jps wrote:
On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 16:01:53 -0400, "Paul@BYC"
wrote:


On 10/26/2010 3:38 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...


On 10/26/2010 3:18 PM, jps wrote:
On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 14:19:34 -0400, "Paul@BYC"
wrote:


On 10/26/2010 11:43 AM, jps wrote:
On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 19:00:01 -0400, "Paul@BYC"
wrote:


On 10/25/2010 12:28 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...


I get a lunch break, but you guys get to post here all day.
Rich? Retired? Not me.


I work from home, my wife is my boss, and after 20 years, we still get
along, couldn't be better. Admittedly much of our business is now
automated, but we spent many a year and hour getting here;)


I teach at a university in the middle of the state.


What do you teach?


Upper level undergrad and some grad courses in the traditional liberal
arts.


Uh oh, one of the brainwashers!


As you know, ignorance is being worn as a badge of honor by a good
many Americans, including certain beverage-based political
organizations.


Glad to hear there's still some who are committed to edumacating our
yungins.


Through no fault of mine, we have a very high percentage of our students
going on to receive doctorates in the arts and sciences.
Smart is encouraged; stupid is not. :)


And still a political troll post, no matter how you look at it...


It is trolling to mention teaching and academic achievement?


Look out, you've already raised some hairs. Just mentioning higher ed
makes folks nervous around here...


Kool-aid is served year 'round hereabouts.


There really is a strong undercurrent of anti-intellectualism in this
country, more so than at any other time I can remember. It's too bad
because a dumbed down America will go down the tubes.


You mean "down the tubes" faster. The Chinese are turning out
engineers at 10 times the rate we are, many of them studying at our
universities.


The emergence of this beverage-based group really puts a point on it.
Their candidates don't require a basic knowledge of the constitution,
pivotal supreme court rulings or basic tenets of law. Instead, they
just supply a few common sense-isms, rail on the media, taxes, them
smart folks who got us in all this trouble, and mention the day they
accepted Jesus into their lives as their personal lord and savior.


That's it! You're electable and ready to govern! Yahooo!


Please don't feel obligated to respond. I'm already tainted by the
"liberal" stamp and you can remain above the fray. You should try to
keep it that way as long as possible since you'll have chosen sides
otherwise.


I hope your students help our country rediscover the pride of a
liberal arts education, the ability to leverage well-developed
critical thinking skills, and be of a country that accepts the
responsibility of the social compact between citizens, our obligation
to the state and our country.


Screw the greedy, the globalists and anybody who shops Walmart.


It's ok JPS, our new poster already tainted himself, progressives can't
help it, they just can't play fair here or anywhere else...


I don't know you at all, but you seem extraordinarily volatile and
subject to wide mood swings. One minute you seem to agree this would be
a better place without all the personal name calling and the next minute
you're engaging in it.

Sure, I'm progressive. I believe in progress, in moving forward, in
extending rights, in scientific development, in opening doors, in making
sure the "play" is fair. I don't believe in scapegoating, in blaming one
ethnic group or another for our society's failures, or in trying to get
ahead by scaring large blocks of nervous people.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Your selective criticism here has already given you away... So go
ahead, tell us all the talking points... I am for progress too, but
not regressive progress which stifles free speech, and directs every
aspect of our lives... but whatever, I had hopes for you, but no
matter what clothes you wear, a wolf is still a wolf...


Regressive progress? Now there's a term I've not previously encountered.
Moving forward by moving backwards? Would that be like eliminating laws
against children performing dangerous work?


Paul@BYC October 27th 10 12:38 PM

Youse guys must be rich
 
On 10/27/2010 7:09 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On 10/27/2010 6:36 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

And still a political troll post, no matter how you look at it...

In what way?

Scott, you need to relax and dial down your sensitivity level. Sit
back, read what you like, ignore the rest.

Hey Wayne, I am still holding my powder even though Harry, Bonnie, JPS
and our new friend still think this is the place for political
trolling...


What "political trolling" have I posted?


Well, this is...

snip
Sure, I'm progressive. I believe in progress, in moving forward, in
extending rights, in scientific development, in opening doors, in making
sure the "play" is fair. I don't believe in scapegoating, in blaming one
ethnic group or another for our society's failures, or in trying to get
ahead by scaring large blocks of nervous people.
/snip

You are suggesting that "the other side" does not want "scientific
development" (which is code for you want no compromise on stem cell
research whatsoever) and you got the LaRaza line down for the rest of
the paragraph, suggesting that the other side is not for "fair play"
which of course is code for "no id's required, free lunch time", and the
whole "scaring large blocks of people" is directed at republicans, even
though the whole "we are gonna' have 8% unemployment if we don't pay off
the unions right now", and "the big bad republicans are sneaking outside
money (like the millions the dems got from Soros and the Chinese
Military in the last few elections) in to "steal" the election when the
dems still have the same money coming in, plus millions from
undocumented donations through the Labor Unions....

So, as clever as you think you are, a troll is still a troll.
Unfortunately your side seems to think as long as it's clever and
subtitle it's ok to break the rules here and elsewhere... it's
pathetic...

As far as I am concerned, I will still hold my powder, but as soon as
Harry starts up again, and he will, we will be right back where we were
two weeks ago, with one new member of the intolerant progressive block
we have to deal with here on a daily basis. But us "knuckle draggers"
actually believe in free speech, so feel free to campaign for whatever
issues you wish... But we are not a pushover, you may be called to the
table here and there for your behavior..


If you are holding your powder, then why are you posting these personal
and political attacks?

You seem very, very angry. I'm sorry for you.

Paul@BYC October 27th 10 12:41 PM

Youse guys must be rich
 
On 10/27/2010 7:12 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On 10/26/2010 11:32 PM, Eddie wrote:
On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 14:19:34 -0400, "Paul@BYC"

I teach at a university in the middle of the state.

What do you teach?

Upper level undergrad and some grad courses in the traditional liberal
arts.
I'm a liberal arts grad, U of Hawaii '71.

Paul, have you ever heard this statement?

"College teaches you how to make proper decisions on disputed
arguments."

Another one I remember: "College teaches you that if you don't know
the answer, you know how to get the answer."

Learned that my first year from one of my professors.

Makes sense to me.

Eddie



I hope you are still in Hawaii. I'd never move from there if I were
lucky enough to live there.

Hopefully, we teach our students how to think critically, which is, to
me, what you are saying with slightly different words.


If "critical thinking" (aka indoctrination) is what happened to my
oldest, you can have it. A product of American U, just finishing up her
masters, she still thinks George Bush pushed a button in the oval
office, sent missiles to take out the twin towers, the pentagon, and the
plane over PA, "there were no planes, the footage was faked", "the
witnesses were staged"... Yeah, critical thinking... Pffffttttt...


Are you blaming American University for this?

Paul@BYC October 27th 10 12:51 PM

Youse guys must be rich
 
On 10/27/2010 7:13 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 06:45:47 -0400, "Paul@BYC"
wrote:

Sure, I'm progressive. I believe in progress, in moving forward, in
extending rights, in scientific development, in opening doors, in making
sure the "play" is fair. I don't believe in scapegoating, in blaming one
ethnic group or another for our society's failures, or in trying to get
ahead by scaring large blocks of nervous people.


Now you've done it - sit back and watch the fur fly.

Are you a sociology professor studying internet behavior?


That's pretty funny!

If I were, some posters here would make for an interesting study group,
I'd bet.

My underpinnings and teachings are more classical, and less
trade-schoolish, not that there is anything wrong with learning a trade.
In my classes, you might learn what some great thinkers thought, why
they thought that, how those thoughts evolved, how they influence us
today. You'd also be required to write many long papers.



Harry®[_2_] October 27th 10 12:51 PM

Youse guys must be rich
 
"JustWaitAFrekinMinute!" wrote in message
...
On Oct 27, 6:45 am, "Paul@BYC" wrote:
On 10/27/2010 6:24 AM, I am Tosk wrote:





In ,
says...


On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 18:00:05 -0400, "Paul@BYC"
wrote:


On 10/26/2010 5:50 PM, jps wrote:
On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 16:01:53 -0400, "Paul@BYC"
wrote:


On 10/26/2010 3:38 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...


On 10/26/2010 3:18 PM, jps wrote:
On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 14:19:34 -0400, "Paul@BYC"
wrote:


On 10/26/2010 11:43 AM, jps wrote:
On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 19:00:01 -0400, "Paul@BYC"
wrote:


On 10/25/2010 12:28 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...


I get a lunch break, but you guys get to post here all day.
Rich? Retired? Not me.


I work from home, my wife is my boss, and after 20 years, we
still get
along, couldn't be better. Admittedly much of our business is
now
automated, but we spent many a year and hour getting here;)


I teach at a university in the middle of the state.


What do you teach?


Upper level undergrad and some grad courses in the traditional
liberal
arts.


Uh oh, one of the brainwashers!


As you know, ignorance is being worn as a badge of honor by a
good
many Americans, including certain beverage-based political
organizations.


Glad to hear there's still some who are committed to edumacating
our
yungins.


Through no fault of mine, we have a very high percentage of our
students
going on to receive doctorates in the arts and sciences.
Smart is encouraged; stupid is not. :)


And still a political troll post, no matter how you look at it...


It is trolling to mention teaching and academic achievement?


Look out, you've already raised some hairs. Just mentioning higher ed
makes folks nervous around here...


Kool-aid is served year 'round hereabouts.


There really is a strong undercurrent of anti-intellectualism in this
country, more so than at any other time I can remember. It's too bad
because a dumbed down America will go down the tubes.


You mean "down the tubes" faster. The Chinese are turning out
engineers at 10 times the rate we are, many of them studying at our
universities.


The emergence of this beverage-based group really puts a point on it.
Their candidates don't require a basic knowledge of the constitution,
pivotal supreme court rulings or basic tenets of law. Instead, they
just supply a few common sense-isms, rail on the media, taxes, them
smart folks who got us in all this trouble, and mention the day they
accepted Jesus into their lives as their personal lord and savior.


That's it! You're electable and ready to govern! Yahooo!


Please don't feel obligated to respond. I'm already tainted by the
"liberal" stamp and you can remain above the fray. You should try to
keep it that way as long as possible since you'll have chosen sides
otherwise.


I hope your students help our country rediscover the pride of a
liberal arts education, the ability to leverage well-developed
critical thinking skills, and be of a country that accepts the
responsibility of the social compact between citizens, our obligation
to the state and our country.


Screw the greedy, the globalists and anybody who shops Walmart.


It's ok JPS, our new poster already tainted himself, progressives can't
help it, they just can't play fair here or anywhere else...


I don't know you at all, but you seem extraordinarily volatile and
subject to wide mood swings. One minute you seem to agree this would be
a better place without all the personal name calling and the next minute
you're engaging in it.

Sure, I'm progressive. I believe in progress, in moving forward, in
extending rights, in scientific development, in opening doors, in making
sure the "play" is fair. I don't believe in scapegoating, in blaming one
ethnic group or another for our society's failures, or in trying to get
ahead by scaring large blocks of nervous people.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Your selective criticism here has already given you away... So go
ahead, tell us all the talking points... I am for progress too, but
not regressive progress which stifles free speech, and directs every
aspect of our lives... but whatever, I had hopes for you, but no
matter what clothes you wear, a wolf is still a wolf...


You shouldn't get worked up about sock puppets.


John H[_2_] October 27th 10 01:05 PM

Youse guys must be rich
 
On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 22:16:26 -0400, I am Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...


/SNIP [THAT MEANS THE ABOVE WAS TAKEN FROM A PREVIOUS POST AND
REPOSTED FOR YOUR CONVENIENCE AND TO AVOID ANY FURTHER CONFUSION ABOUT
SCROLLING AND SUCH...]

So my question is simple, what part of "badge of ignorance" or
"beverage-based political organization" don't you guys understand? I
have to know... Or is the no political troll posts agreement out the
window already? Or is it just Harry and his friends that can troll now
that the spoofers have been cleared away?... Yup, I win another pool..;)


Yup, as I said in another post, I missed that. I was looking at the post by
Paul, to which you'd responded instead of responding to jps who made the post
which you found too offensive not to ignore.

However, learning to ignore offensive posts is a good thing.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

John H

John H[_2_] October 27th 10 01:11 PM

Youse guys must be rich
 
On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 07:38:32 -0400, "Paul@BYC" wrote:

On 10/27/2010 7:09 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On 10/27/2010 6:36 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

And still a political troll post, no matter how you look at it...

In what way?

Scott, you need to relax and dial down your sensitivity level. Sit
back, read what you like, ignore the rest.

Hey Wayne, I am still holding my powder even though Harry, Bonnie, JPS
and our new friend still think this is the place for political
trolling...


What "political trolling" have I posted?


Well, this is...

snip
Sure, I'm progressive. I believe in progress, in moving forward, in
extending rights, in scientific development, in opening doors, in making
sure the "play" is fair. I don't believe in scapegoating, in blaming one
ethnic group or another for our society's failures, or in trying to get
ahead by scaring large blocks of nervous people.
/snip

You are suggesting that "the other side" does not want "scientific
development" (which is code for you want no compromise on stem cell
research whatsoever) and you got the LaRaza line down for the rest of
the paragraph, suggesting that the other side is not for "fair play"
which of course is code for "no id's required, free lunch time", and the
whole "scaring large blocks of people" is directed at republicans, even
though the whole "we are gonna' have 8% unemployment if we don't pay off
the unions right now", and "the big bad republicans are sneaking outside
money (like the millions the dems got from Soros and the Chinese
Military in the last few elections) in to "steal" the election when the
dems still have the same money coming in, plus millions from
undocumented donations through the Labor Unions....

So, as clever as you think you are, a troll is still a troll.
Unfortunately your side seems to think as long as it's clever and
subtitle it's ok to break the rules here and elsewhere... it's
pathetic...

As far as I am concerned, I will still hold my powder, but as soon as
Harry starts up again, and he will, we will be right back where we were
two weeks ago, with one new member of the intolerant progressive block
we have to deal with here on a daily basis. But us "knuckle draggers"
actually believe in free speech, so feel free to campaign for whatever
issues you wish... But we are not a pushover, you may be called to the
table here and there for your behavior..


If you are holding your powder, then why are you posting these personal
and political attacks?

You seem very, very angry. I'm sorry for you.


Paul, your personal snipes and name-calling don't lend you much credence. You
can make your point without either.

Why not tone down the rhetoric?
--

Hope you're having a great day!

John H

Paul@BYC October 27th 10 01:16 PM

Youse guys must be rich
 
On 10/27/2010 7:09 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...


Sure, I'm progressive. I believe in progress, in moving forward, in
extending rights, in scientific development, in opening doors, in making
sure the "play" is fair. I don't believe in scapegoating, in blaming one
ethnic group or another for our society's failures, or in trying to get
ahead by scaring large blocks of nervous people.
/snip



You are suggesting that "the other side" does not want "scientific
development" (which is code for you want no compromise on stem cell
research whatsoever) and you got the LaRaza line down for the rest of
the paragraph, suggesting that the other side is not for "fair play"
which of course is code for "no id's required, free lunch time", and the
whole "scaring large blocks of people" is directed at republicans, even
though the whole "we are gonna' have 8% unemployment if we don't pay off
the unions right now", and "the big bad republicans are sneaking outside
money (like the millions the dems got from Soros and the Chinese
Military in the last few elections) in to "steal" the election when the
dems still have the same money coming in, plus millions from
undocumented donations through the Labor Unions....



I've made no such suggestion. I've merely stated that I am a progressive
and have certain beliefs and values based upon my position as a
progressive. As a student of history, I am an admirer of thinkers on
both sides of our two party political spectrum, including Dwight
Eisenhower, Nelson Rockefeller and even Richard Nixon, two of whom were
both conservative and progressive.

You seem to be caught up in the rhetoric of those nattering nabobs of
negativism, the tea party and fox news. Not me.

John H[_2_] October 27th 10 01:18 PM

Youse guys must be rich
 
On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 07:51:18 -0400, "Paul@BYC" wrote:

On 10/27/2010 7:13 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 06:45:47 -0400, "Paul@BYC"
wrote:

Sure, I'm progressive. I believe in progress, in moving forward, in
extending rights, in scientific development, in opening doors, in making
sure the "play" is fair. I don't believe in scapegoating, in blaming one
ethnic group or another for our society's failures, or in trying to get
ahead by scaring large blocks of nervous people.


Now you've done it - sit back and watch the fur fly.

Are you a sociology professor studying internet behavior?


That's pretty funny!

If I were, some posters here would make for an interesting study group,
I'd bet.

My underpinnings and teachings are more classical, and less
trade-schoolish, not that there is anything wrong with learning a trade.
In my classes, you might learn what some great thinkers thought, why
they thought that, how those thoughts evolved, how they influence us
today. You'd also be required to write many long papers.


Must the papers be of a certain 'bent' to recieve a good grade?
--

Hope you're having a great day!

John H

JustWaitAFrekinMinute! October 27th 10 01:25 PM

Youse guys must be rich
 
On Oct 27, 7:36*am, "Paul@BYC" wrote:
On 10/27/2010 6:50 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute! wrote:





On Oct 27, 6:45 am, *wrote:
On 10/27/2010 6:24 AM, I am Tosk wrote:


In ,
says...


On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 18:00:05 -0400, "Paul@BYC"
* *wrote:


On 10/26/2010 5:50 PM, jps wrote:
On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 16:01:53 -0400, "Paul@BYC"
* * wrote:


On 10/26/2010 3:38 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...


On 10/26/2010 3:18 PM, jps wrote:
On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 14:19:34 -0400, "Paul@BYC"
* * * wrote:


On 10/26/2010 11:43 AM, jps wrote:
On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 19:00:01 -0400, "Paul@BYC"
* * * *wrote:


On 10/25/2010 12:28 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...


I get a lunch break, but you guys get to post here all day.
Rich? Retired? Not me.


I work from home, my wife is my boss, and after 20 years, *we still get
along, couldn't be better. Admittedly much of our business is now
automated, but we spent many a year and hour getting here;)


I teach at a university in the middle of the state.


What do you teach?


Upper level undergrad and some grad courses in the traditional liberal
arts.


Uh oh, one of the brainwashers!


As you know, ignorance is being worn as a badge of honor by a good
many Americans, including certain beverage-based political
organizations.


Glad to hear there's still some who are committed to edumacating our
yungins.


Through no fault of mine, we have a very high percentage of our students
going on to receive doctorates in the arts and sciences.
Smart is encouraged; stupid is not. :)


And still a political troll post, *no matter how you look at it...


It is trolling to mention teaching and academic achievement?


Look out, you've already raised some hairs. *Just mentioning higher ed
makes folks nervous around here...


Kool-aid is served year 'round hereabouts.


There really is a strong undercurrent of anti-intellectualism in this
country, more so than at any other time I can remember. It's too bad
because a dumbed down America will go down the tubes.


You mean "down the tubes" faster. The Chinese are turning out
engineers at 10 times the rate we are, many of them studying at our
universities.


The emergence of this beverage-based group really puts a point on it..
Their candidates don't require a basic knowledge of the constitution,
pivotal supreme court rulings or basic tenets of law. *Instead, they
just supply a few common sense-isms, rail on the media, taxes, them
smart folks who got us in all this trouble, and mention the day they
accepted Jesus into their lives as their personal lord and savior.


That's it! *You're electable and ready to govern! *Yahooo!


Please don't feel obligated to respond. *I'm already tainted by the
"liberal" stamp and you can remain above the fray. *You should try to
keep it that way as long as possible since you'll have chosen sides
otherwise.


I hope your students help our country rediscover the pride of a
liberal arts education, the ability to leverage well-developed
critical thinking skills, and be of a country that accepts the
responsibility of the social compact between citizens, our obligation
to the state and our country.


Screw the greedy, the globalists and anybody who shops Walmart.


It's ok JPS, our new poster already tainted himself, progressives can't
help it, they just can't play fair here or anywhere else...


I don't know you at all, but you seem extraordinarily volatile and
subject to wide mood swings. One minute you seem to agree this would be
a better place without all the personal name calling and the next minute
you're engaging in it.


Sure, I'm progressive. I believe in progress, in moving forward, in
extending rights, in scientific development, in opening doors, in making
sure the "play" is fair. I don't believe in scapegoating, in blaming one
ethnic group or another for our society's failures, or in trying to get
ahead by scaring large blocks of nervous people.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Your selective criticism here has already given you away... *So go
ahead, tell us all the talking points... *I am for progress too, but
not regressive progress which stifles free speech, and directs every
aspect of our lives... but whatever, I had hopes for you, but no
matter what clothes you wear, a wolf is still a wolf...


Regressive progress? Now there's a term I've not previously encountered.
Moving forward by moving backwards? Would that be like eliminating laws
against children performing dangerous work?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


No, more like personal attacks from the Oval office against
individuals and news orgs that have opposing viewpoints... I mean,
allowing Military from racist groups to stand in front of voting
booths., I am talking about three states who are openly allowing
undocumented aliens to vote, canceling the vote of American
citizens.... The list goes on, progressives are not progressive...

JustWaitAFrekinMinute! October 27th 10 01:28 PM

Youse guys must be rich
 
On Oct 27, 8:18*am, John H wrote:
On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 07:51:18 -0400, "Paul@BYC" wrote:
On 10/27/2010 7:13 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 06:45:47 -0400, "Paul@BYC"
*wrote:


Sure, I'm progressive. I believe in progress, in moving forward, in
extending rights, in scientific development, in opening doors, in making
sure the "play" is fair. I don't believe in scapegoating, in blaming one
ethnic group or another for our society's failures, or in trying to get
ahead by scaring large blocks of nervous people.


Now you've done it - sit back and watch the fur fly.


Are you a sociology professor studying internet behavior?


That's pretty funny!


If I were, some posters here would make for an interesting study group,
I'd bet.


My underpinnings and teachings are more classical, and less
trade-schoolish, not that there is anything wrong with learning a trade.
In my classes, you might learn what some great thinkers thought, why
they thought that, how those thoughts evolved, how they influence us
today. You'd also be required to write many long papers.


Must the papers be of a certain 'bent' to recieve a good grade?
--

Hope you're having a great day!

John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


It's the Juan Williams syndrome... If you don't "understand" (toe the
line) you need a shrink...;) You deserve pity, and should have your
money, livelyhood, and reputation stripped and given back to you in
controled portions according to need...;)

YukonBound October 27th 10 01:29 PM

Youse guys must be rich
 


"I am Tosk" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

"I am Tosk" wrote in message
...

Uh oh, one of the brainwashers!

As you know, ignorance is being worn as a badge of honor by a
good
many Americans, including certain beverage-based political
organizations.



It is trolling to mention teaching and academic achievement?

No, but the trashing of the tea party is...


The tea party? Who mentioned the tea party, besides you?

And who exactly do you think Bonnie was refereeing to when he said..

snip

*As you know, ignorance is being worn as a badge of honor by a
good
many Americans, including certain beverage-based political
organizations.*

/snip

Really, you don't see a political post here?? Right... snerk. I was
still the first to know;)


--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - Pain is temporary, Glory is forever!


I hope you aren't referring to me when you claim that a "Bonnie" made the
above observation.


Why? Weren't you the one that said it?


You're the internet provider executive.... figure it out!


YukonBound October 27th 10 01:31 PM

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"Paul@BYC" wrote in message
...
On 10/27/2010 6:36 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

And still a political troll post, no matter how you look at it...

In what way?

Scott, you need to relax and dial down your sensitivity level. Sit
back, read what you like, ignore the rest.


Hey Wayne, I am still holding my powder even though Harry, Bonnie, JPS
and our new friend still think this is the place for political
trolling...


What "political trolling" have I posted?


.... or me , fro that matter?


Paul@BYC October 27th 10 01:32 PM

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On 10/27/2010 8:18 AM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 07:51:18 -0400, wrote:

On 10/27/2010 7:13 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 06:45:47 -0400, "Paul@BYC"
wrote:

Sure, I'm progressive. I believe in progress, in moving forward, in
extending rights, in scientific development, in opening doors, in making
sure the "play" is fair. I don't believe in scapegoating, in blaming one
ethnic group or another for our society's failures, or in trying to get
ahead by scaring large blocks of nervous people.

Now you've done it - sit back and watch the fur fly.

Are you a sociology professor studying internet behavior?


That's pretty funny!

If I were, some posters here would make for an interesting study group,
I'd bet.

My underpinnings and teachings are more classical, and less
trade-schoolish, not that there is anything wrong with learning a trade.
In my classes, you might learn what some great thinkers thought, why
they thought that, how those thoughts evolved, how they influence us
today. You'd also be required to write many long papers.


Must the papers be of a certain 'bent' to recieve a good grade?


Of course not. What we like to see is evidence the writer properly
prepared himself by reading and assimilating pertinent works, and spent
significant time thinking and writing so as to present a logical,
coherent paper. In class discussions, any ideas are welcome, but the
presenter has to be able to defend them. We try to teach our students to
think logically and to develop and use their wits.

JustWaitAFrekinMinute! October 27th 10 01:35 PM

Youse guys must be rich
 
On Oct 27, 7:41*am, "Paul@BYC" wrote:
On 10/27/2010 7:12 AM, I am Tosk wrote:





In ,
says...


On 10/26/2010 11:32 PM, Eddie wrote:
On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 14:19:34 -0400, "Paul@BYC"


I teach at a university in the middle of the state.


What do you teach?


Upper level undergrad and some grad courses in the traditional liberal
arts.
I'm a liberal arts grad, U of Hawaii '71.


Paul, have you ever heard this statement?


"College teaches you how to make proper decisions on disputed
arguments."


Another one I remember: *"College teaches you that if you don't know
the answer, you know how to get the answer."


Learned that my first year from one of my professors.


Makes sense to me.


Eddie


I hope you are still in Hawaii. I'd never move from there if I were
lucky enough to live there.


Hopefully, we teach our students how to think critically, which is, to
me, what you are saying with slightly different words.


If "critical thinking" (aka indoctrination) is what happened to my
oldest, you can have it. A product of American U, just finishing up her
masters, she still thinks George Bush pushed a button in the oval
office, sent missiles to take out the twin towers, the pentagon, and the
plane over PA, "there were no planes, the footage was faked", "the
witnesses were staged"... Yeah, critical thinking... Pffffttttt...


Are you blaming American University for this?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


No, actually I think it was more the pseudo - intellectuals she got in
with earlier at U-Hart...

Paul@BYC October 27th 10 01:42 PM

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On 10/27/2010 8:35 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute! wrote:
On Oct 27, 7:41 am, wrote:

If "critical thinking" (aka indoctrination) is what happened to my
oldest, you can have it. A product of American U, just finishing up her
masters, she still thinks George Bush pushed a button in the oval
office, sent missiles to take out the twin towers, the pentagon, and the
plane over PA, "there were no planes, the footage was faked", "the
witnesses were staged"... Yeah, critical thinking... Pffffttttt...


Are you blaming American University for this?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


No, actually I think it was more the pseudo - intellectuals she got in
with earlier at U-Hart...



I doubt many intellectuals, even pseudo-intellectuals, believe that
"George Bush pushed a button in the oval office, sent missiles to take
out the twin towers, the pentagon, and the plane over PA, "there were no
planes, the footage was faked", "the witnesses were staged"..."

If I were you, I would look elsewhere for the origins of those thoughts
in your child's head.


Harry®[_2_] October 27th 10 02:33 PM

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"I am Tosk" wrote in message
...


You seem to be caught up in the rhetoric of those nattering nabobs of
negativism, the tea party and fox news. Not me.


Ahhh, that's it.. I am a conservative, so I must listen to Fox News and
be a teabagger... So narrow minded, these regressives. Everything is
about smearing, shaming, or threatening anybody who opposes the
takeover.



--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - Pain is temporary, Glory is forever!



Sound like anyone we know?


Paul@BYC October 27th 10 02:44 PM

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On 10/27/2010 9:23 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On 10/27/2010 8:18 AM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 07:51:18 -0400, wrote:

On 10/27/2010 7:13 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 06:45:47 -0400, "Paul@BYC"
wrote:

Sure, I'm progressive. I believe in progress, in moving forward, in
extending rights, in scientific development, in opening doors, in making
sure the "play" is fair. I don't believe in scapegoating, in blaming one
ethnic group or another for our society's failures, or in trying to get
ahead by scaring large blocks of nervous people.

Now you've done it - sit back and watch the fur fly.

Are you a sociology professor studying internet behavior?


That's pretty funny!

If I were, some posters here would make for an interesting study group,
I'd bet.

My underpinnings and teachings are more classical, and less
trade-schoolish, not that there is anything wrong with learning a trade.
In my classes, you might learn what some great thinkers thought, why
they thought that, how those thoughts evolved, how they influence us
today. You'd also be required to write many long papers.


Must the papers be of a certain 'bent' to recieve a good grade?


Of course not. What we like to see is evidence the writer properly
prepared himself by reading and assimilating pertinent works, and spent
significant time thinking and writing so as to present a logical,
coherent paper. In class discussions, any ideas are welcome, but the
presenter has to be able to defend them. We try to teach our students to
think logically and to develop and use their wits.


Yes, "must be able to defend them". Against who? A professor with a
liberal bent that might not challenge one side as vigorously as the
other... Especially if that professor doesn't feel one side needs
defending at all... Watched three kids come through the system, and my
mom was a school administrator for almost 50 years, I know how it
works...




You appear unfamiliar with the process of "defending" one's papers,
thoughts, presentations as it is done at the college/university level. I
say that because you are injecting partisan politics into a process that
has nothing to do with partisan politics. The exercise is intellectual,
not political.

No offense, but you seem eager to point fingers and make accusations,
even on subjects about which you know little or nothing.

The challenges to the presenters come not from me, but from fellow
students chosen at random and given a copy of the paper a few days
before the class discussion. The object of the exercise is to develop
logical thinking processes, not to insult the presenters or the
challengers. My role is that of sometime moderator, to keep the
discussions on track and within the time limitations.



Paul@BYC October 27th 10 02:50 PM

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On 10/27/2010 9:31 AM, I am Tosk wrote:


You seem to be caught up in the rhetoric of those nattering nabobs of
negativism, the tea party and fox news. Not me.


Ahhh, that's it.. I am a conservative, so I must listen to Fox News and
be a teabagger... So narrow minded, these regressives. Everything is
about smearing, shaming, or threatening anybody who opposes the
takeover.




I thought you would appreciate a quote of Spiro T. Agnew, who was a
colorful speaker.

I don't know if you are a teabagger, as you put it. You certainly seem
to share some of the beliefs and attributes of that subset of the GOP.

Well, I'm out of here for most of the rest of today's daylight hours.
Watch out for those Gordian knots.

YukonBound October 27th 10 03:03 PM

Youse guys must be rich
 


"I am Tosk" wrote in message
...
snip...

She is a bright kid and knows how to play the game, *she has the highest
grades in the class and it's not even her they are grading*;)

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - Pain is temporary, Glory is forever!


Huh???........................ oh, never mind.


YukonBound October 27th 10 03:05 PM

Youse guys must be rich
 


"I am Tosk" wrote in message
...

snip...........
and I got to give a season ride report... Even though no one read it. BTW,
you all missed some great
pics of Jessi smoking a field of pros and experts...

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - Pain is temporary, Glory is forever!



Uh.... no offence, but maybe this tells you something.


Harry®[_2_] October 27th 10 03:16 PM

Youse guys must be rich
 
"YukonBound" wrote in message
...


"I am Tosk" wrote in message
...

snip...........
and I got to give a season ride report... Even though no one read it. BTW,
you all missed some great
pics of Jessi smoking a field of pros and experts...

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - Pain is temporary, Glory is forever!



Uh.... no offence, but maybe this tells you something.


At least he was kind enough to post a link vs. posting it all here or even
worse cutting and pasting stuff from Huffington post or similar.


John H[_2_] October 27th 10 03:30 PM

Youse guys must be rich
 
On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 08:16:01 -0400, "Paul@BYC" wrote:

On 10/27/2010 7:09 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...


Sure, I'm progressive. I believe in progress, in moving forward, in
extending rights, in scientific development, in opening doors, in making
sure the "play" is fair. I don't believe in scapegoating, in blaming one
ethnic group or another for our society's failures, or in trying to get
ahead by scaring large blocks of nervous people.
/snip



You are suggesting that "the other side" does not want "scientific
development" (which is code for you want no compromise on stem cell
research whatsoever) and you got the LaRaza line down for the rest of
the paragraph, suggesting that the other side is not for "fair play"
which of course is code for "no id's required, free lunch time", and the
whole "scaring large blocks of people" is directed at republicans, even
though the whole "we are gonna' have 8% unemployment if we don't pay off
the unions right now", and "the big bad republicans are sneaking outside
money (like the millions the dems got from Soros and the Chinese
Military in the last few elections) in to "steal" the election when the
dems still have the same money coming in, plus millions from
undocumented donations through the Labor Unions....



I've made no such suggestion. I've merely stated that I am a progressive
and have certain beliefs and values based upon my position as a
progressive. As a student of history, I am an admirer of thinkers on
both sides of our two party political spectrum, including Dwight
Eisenhower, Nelson Rockefeller and even Richard Nixon, two of whom were
both conservative and progressive.

You seem to be caught up in the rhetoric of those nattering nabobs of
negativism, the tea party and fox news. Not me.


Such a shame. For a day or so, I'd thought you were real.

I must be getting old.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

John H

John H[_2_] October 27th 10 03:32 PM

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On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 08:32:49 -0400, "Paul@BYC" wrote:

On 10/27/2010 8:18 AM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 07:51:18 -0400, wrote:

On 10/27/2010 7:13 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 06:45:47 -0400, "Paul@BYC"
wrote:

Sure, I'm progressive. I believe in progress, in moving forward, in
extending rights, in scientific development, in opening doors, in making
sure the "play" is fair. I don't believe in scapegoating, in blaming one
ethnic group or another for our society's failures, or in trying to get
ahead by scaring large blocks of nervous people.

Now you've done it - sit back and watch the fur fly.

Are you a sociology professor studying internet behavior?


That's pretty funny!

If I were, some posters here would make for an interesting study group,
I'd bet.

My underpinnings and teachings are more classical, and less
trade-schoolish, not that there is anything wrong with learning a trade.
In my classes, you might learn what some great thinkers thought, why
they thought that, how those thoughts evolved, how they influence us
today. You'd also be required to write many long papers.


Must the papers be of a certain 'bent' to recieve a good grade?


Of course not. What we like to see is evidence the writer properly
prepared himself by reading and assimilating pertinent works, and spent
significant time thinking and writing so as to present a logical,
coherent paper. In class discussions, any ideas are welcome, but the
presenter has to be able to defend them. We try to teach our students to
think logically and to develop and use their wits.


Hee, hee. That's cute.

Goodbye.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

John H

Dr. Dr. Dr. Karen Grear, MD, PhD, STD October 27th 10 03:40 PM

Youse guys must be rich
 
On 10/27/10 6:45 AM, Paul@BYC wrote:
On 10/27/2010 6:24 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 18:00:05 -0400, "Paul@BYC"
wrote:

On 10/26/2010 5:50 PM, jps wrote:
On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 16:01:53 -0400, "Paul@BYC"
wrote:

On 10/26/2010 3:38 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On 10/26/2010 3:18 PM, jps wrote:
On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 14:19:34 -0400, "Paul@BYC"
wrote:

On 10/26/2010 11:43 AM, jps wrote:
On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 19:00:01 -0400, "Paul@BYC"
wrote:

On 10/25/2010 12:28 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

I get a lunch break, but you guys get to post here all day.
Rich? Retired? Not me.

I work from home, my wife is my boss, and after 20 years,
we still get
along, couldn't be better. Admittedly much of our business
is now
automated, but we spent many a year and hour getting here;)



I teach at a university in the middle of the state.

What do you teach?

Upper level undergrad and some grad courses in the traditional
liberal
arts.

Uh oh, one of the brainwashers!

As you know, ignorance is being worn as a badge of honor by a good
many Americans, including certain beverage-based political
organizations.

Glad to hear there's still some who are committed to
edumacating our
yungins.


Through no fault of mine, we have a very high percentage of our
students
going on to receive doctorates in the arts and sciences.
Smart is encouraged; stupid is not. :)

And still a political troll post, no matter how you look at it...


It is trolling to mention teaching and academic achievement?

Look out, you've already raised some hairs. Just mentioning higher ed
makes folks nervous around here...

Kool-aid is served year 'round hereabouts.


There really is a strong undercurrent of anti-intellectualism in this
country, more so than at any other time I can remember. It's too bad
because a dumbed down America will go down the tubes.

You mean "down the tubes" faster. The Chinese are turning out
engineers at 10 times the rate we are, many of them studying at our
universities.

The emergence of this beverage-based group really puts a point on it.
Their candidates don't require a basic knowledge of the constitution,
pivotal supreme court rulings or basic tenets of law. Instead, they
just supply a few common sense-isms, rail on the media, taxes, them
smart folks who got us in all this trouble, and mention the day they
accepted Jesus into their lives as their personal lord and savior.

That's it! You're electable and ready to govern! Yahooo!

Please don't feel obligated to respond. I'm already tainted by the
"liberal" stamp and you can remain above the fray. You should try to
keep it that way as long as possible since you'll have chosen sides
otherwise.

I hope your students help our country rediscover the pride of a
liberal arts education, the ability to leverage well-developed
critical thinking skills, and be of a country that accepts the
responsibility of the social compact between citizens, our obligation
to the state and our country.

Screw the greedy, the globalists and anybody who shops Walmart.


It's ok JPS, our new poster already tainted himself, progressives can't
help it, they just can't play fair here or anywhere else...



I don't know you at all, but you seem extraordinarily volatile and
subject to wide mood swings. One minute you seem to agree this would be
a better place without all the personal name calling and the next minute
you're engaging in it.

Sure, I'm progressive. I believe in progress, in moving forward, in
extending rights, in scientific development, in opening doors, in making
sure the "play" is fair. I don't believe in scapegoating, in blaming one
ethnic group or another for our society's failures, or in trying to get
ahead by scaring large blocks of nervous people.



Paul,
I don't know where you are from, but in my neck of the woods if one
wants to minimize arguments and name calling, it makes sense to avoid
religious and political topics. Now if you enjoy heated debates, you
are right on target.

--
Dr. Dr. Dr. Karen Grear
For a good time contact a bricklayer.
Bricklayers last longer and do it harder.

Dr. Dr. Dr. Karen Grear, MD, PhD, STD October 27th 10 03:41 PM

Youse guys must be rich
 
On 10/27/10 7:13 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 06:45:47 -0400, "Paul@BYC"
wrote:

Sure, I'm progressive. I believe in progress, in moving forward, in
extending rights, in scientific development, in opening doors, in making
sure the "play" is fair. I don't believe in scapegoating, in blaming one
ethnic group or another for our society's failures, or in trying to get
ahead by scaring large blocks of nervous people.


Now you've done it - sit back and watch the fur fly.

Are you a sociology professor studying internet behavior?


That would make more sense then he is actually trying to get rec.boats
back on topic.

--
Dr. Dr. Dr. Karen Grear
For a good time contact a bricklayer.
Bricklayers last longer and do it harder.

Dr. Dr. Dr. Karen Grear, MD, PhD, STD October 27th 10 03:44 PM

Youse guys must be rich
 
On 10/27/10 7:38 AM, Paul@BYC wrote:
On 10/27/2010 7:09 AM, I am Tosk wrote:



You seem very, very angry. I'm sorry for you.


Wow, you sure seemed to change your tone very quickly. Paul, I think
you need to learn how to refrain from derogatory statements.

--
Dr. Dr. Dr. Karen Grear
For a good time contact a bricklayer.
Bricklayers last longer and do it harder.

Wayne.B October 27th 10 03:57 PM

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On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 09:50:15 -0400, "Paul@BYC"
wrote:

I thought you would appreciate a quote of Spiro T. Agnew, who was a
colorful speaker.


Spiro was a colorful crook.


Dr. Dr. Dr. Phd, Md. STD October 27th 10 04:08 PM

Youse guys must be rich
 
On 10/27/10 7:08 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 05:48:40 -0400, "Dr. Dr. Dr. Karen Grear, MD, PhD,
wrote:

It is nice seeing you converse with Paul in a manner that will assist in
his objective of ridding rec.boats of inflammatory heated arguments.
Good job.


Please stop quoting the inflammatory remarks of others, and this
spoofing nonsense of yours has no humor in it.


Well, I didn't know I was spoofing anyone, since no one believes I or
anyone else is a Dr Dr Dr., but I did change my ID, yet kept enough that
it won't look like I am trying to use a new ID.

Well, out of curiosity, I checked the definition of "spoof" and it
looked like I was spoofing since my ID did qualify on 2 of 3 possible
definitions. I don't believe anyone ever thought my ID was an effort to
deceive or "hoax" anyone into believing I was anything but nonsense
and/or maybe a light parody.

Noun
Wikipedia has an article on:
Spoof

spoof (plural spoofs)

1. a hoax
2. a light parody
3. nonsense

[edit] Synonyms

* satire
* send-up

[edit] Translations

--
Dr. Dr. Dr.
For a good time.

Harry®[_2_] October 27th 10 04:10 PM

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"John H" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 08:16:01 -0400, "Paul@BYC"
wrote:

On 10/27/2010 7:09 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...


Sure, I'm progressive. I believe in progress, in moving forward, in
extending rights, in scientific development, in opening doors, in making
sure the "play" is fair. I don't believe in scapegoating, in blaming one
ethnic group or another for our society's failures, or in trying to get
ahead by scaring large blocks of nervous people.
/snip



You are suggesting that "the other side" does not want "scientific
development" (which is code for you want no compromise on stem cell
research whatsoever) and you got the LaRaza line down for the rest of
the paragraph, suggesting that the other side is not for "fair play"
which of course is code for "no id's required, free lunch time", and the
whole "scaring large blocks of people" is directed at republicans, even
though the whole "we are gonna' have 8% unemployment if we don't pay off
the unions right now", and "the big bad republicans are sneaking outside
money (like the millions the dems got from Soros and the Chinese
Military in the last few elections) in to "steal" the election when the
dems still have the same money coming in, plus millions from
undocumented donations through the Labor Unions....



I've made no such suggestion. I've merely stated that I am a progressive
and have certain beliefs and values based upon my position as a
progressive. As a student of history, I am an admirer of thinkers on
both sides of our two party political spectrum, including Dwight
Eisenhower, Nelson Rockefeller and even Richard Nixon, two of whom were
both conservative and progressive.

You seem to be caught up in the rhetoric of those nattering nabobs of
negativism, the tea party and fox news. Not me.


Such a shame. For a day or so, I'd thought you were real.

I must be getting old.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

John H



Paul aka Jim aka Secular Humanist aka Secular Humorist aka Hkar etc.
When things get to dull around here for him, he has wifey sew him up a new
sock puppet. And this is the guy who is encouraging us to play nice.
We've been doing our part,eh?


*e#c October 27th 10 05:29 PM

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On Oct 27, 6:19*am, I am Tosk wrote:
In article ,
says...





On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 19:39:32 -0400, "Paul@BYC"
wrote:


On 10/26/2010 6:54 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...


On 10/26/2010 3:38 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...


On 10/26/2010 3:18 PM, jps wrote:
On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 14:19:34 -0400, "Paul@BYC"
* *wrote:


On 10/26/2010 11:43 AM, jps wrote:
On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 19:00:01 -0400, "Paul@BYC"
* * wrote:


On 10/25/2010 12:28 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...


I get a lunch break, but you guys get to post here all day.
Rich? Retired? Not me.


I work from home, my wife is my boss, and after 20 years, *we still get
along, couldn't be better. Admittedly much of our business is now
automated, but we spent many a year and hour getting here;)


I teach at a university in the middle of the state.


What do you teach?


Upper level undergrad and some grad courses in the traditional liberal
arts.


Uh oh, one of the brainwashers!


As you know, ignorance is being worn as a badge of honor by a good
many Americans, including certain beverage-based political
organizations.


Glad to hear there's still some who are committed to edumacating our
yungins.


Through no fault of mine, we have a very high percentage of our students
going on to receive doctorates in the arts and sciences.
Smart is encouraged; stupid is not. :)


And still a political troll post, *no matter how you look at it....


It is trolling to mention teaching and academic achievement?


No, but the trashing of the tea party is...


The tea party? Who mentioned the tea party, besides you?


When I mentioned the beveraged-based party, I was referring to
Cokeheads and Pepsidroids.


Yeah sure... I guess a liar never changes his spots...



I see you've come to realize that about yourself, huh Panty Goddess.

*e#c October 27th 10 05:30 PM

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On Oct 27, 6:45*am, "Paul@BYC" wrote:
On 10/27/2010 6:24 AM, I am Tosk wrote:



In ,
says...


On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 18:00:05 -0400, "Paul@BYC"
*wrote:


On 10/26/2010 5:50 PM, jps wrote:
On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 16:01:53 -0400, "Paul@BYC"
* wrote:


On 10/26/2010 3:38 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...


On 10/26/2010 3:18 PM, jps wrote:
On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 14:19:34 -0400, "Paul@BYC"
* * wrote:


On 10/26/2010 11:43 AM, jps wrote:
On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 19:00:01 -0400, "Paul@BYC"
* * *wrote:


On 10/25/2010 12:28 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...


I get a lunch break, but you guys get to post here all day.
Rich? Retired? Not me.


I work from home, my wife is my boss, and after 20 years, *we still get
along, couldn't be better. Admittedly much of our business is now
automated, but we spent many a year and hour getting here;)


I teach at a university in the middle of the state.


What do you teach?


Upper level undergrad and some grad courses in the traditional liberal
arts.


Uh oh, one of the brainwashers!


As you know, ignorance is being worn as a badge of honor by a good
many Americans, including certain beverage-based political
organizations.


Glad to hear there's still some who are committed to edumacating our
yungins.


Through no fault of mine, we have a very high percentage of our students
going on to receive doctorates in the arts and sciences.
Smart is encouraged; stupid is not. :)


And still a political troll post, *no matter how you look at it....


It is trolling to mention teaching and academic achievement?


Look out, you've already raised some hairs. *Just mentioning higher ed
makes folks nervous around here...


Kool-aid is served year 'round hereabouts.


There really is a strong undercurrent of anti-intellectualism in this
country, more so than at any other time I can remember. It's too bad
because a dumbed down America will go down the tubes.


You mean "down the tubes" faster. The Chinese are turning out
engineers at 10 times the rate we are, many of them studying at our
universities.


The emergence of this beverage-based group really puts a point on it.
Their candidates don't require a basic knowledge of the constitution,
pivotal supreme court rulings or basic tenets of law. *Instead, they
just supply a few common sense-isms, rail on the media, taxes, them
smart folks who got us in all this trouble, and mention the day they
accepted Jesus into their lives as their personal lord and savior.


That's it! *You're electable and ready to govern! *Yahooo!


Please don't feel obligated to respond. *I'm already tainted by the
"liberal" stamp and you can remain above the fray. *You should try to
keep it that way as long as possible since you'll have chosen sides
otherwise.


I hope your students help our country rediscover the pride of a
liberal arts education, the ability to leverage well-developed
critical thinking skills, and be of a country that accepts the
responsibility of the social compact between citizens, our obligation
to the state and our country.


Screw the greedy, the globalists and anybody who shops Walmart.


It's ok JPS, our new poster already tainted himself, progressives can't
help it, they just can't play fair here or anywhere else...


I don't know you at all, but you seem extraordinarily volatile and
subject to wide mood swings. One minute you seem to agree this would be
a better place without all the personal name calling and the next minute
you're engaging in it.


Because he LIKES it.


*e#c October 27th 10 05:33 PM

Youse guys must be rich
 
On Oct 27, 7:17*am, I am Tosk wrote:
In article ,
says...



On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 06:45:47 -0400, "Paul@BYC"
wrote:


Sure, I'm progressive. I believe in progress, in moving forward, in
extending rights, in scientific development, in opening doors, in making
sure the "play" is fair. I don't believe in scapegoating, in blaming one
ethnic group or another for our society's failures, or in trying to get
ahead by scaring large blocks of nervous people.


Now you've done it - sit back and watch the fur fly. *


Are you a sociology professor studying internet behavior?


A troll, is still a troll, no matter how subtitle...;)


Please note the totally stupid spelling mistake above from the IQ 85
poster who cant use a spell-checker.

Snotty Ingerstupid.


*e#c October 27th 10 05:39 PM

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On Oct 27, 9:44*am, "Paul@BYC" wrote:
On 10/27/2010 9:23 AM, I am Tosk wrote:



In ,
says...


On 10/27/2010 8:18 AM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 07:51:18 -0400, * wrote:


On 10/27/2010 7:13 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 06:45:47 -0400, "Paul@BYC"
* *wrote:


Sure, I'm progressive. I believe in progress, in moving forward, in
extending rights, in scientific development, in opening doors, in making
sure the "play" is fair. I don't believe in scapegoating, in blaming one
ethnic group or another for our society's failures, or in trying to get
ahead by scaring large blocks of nervous people.


Now you've done it - sit back and watch the fur fly.


Are you a sociology professor studying internet behavior?


That's pretty funny!


If I were, some posters here would make for an interesting study group,
I'd bet.


My underpinnings and teachings are more classical, and less
trade-schoolish, not that there is anything wrong with learning a trade.
In my classes, you might learn what some great thinkers thought, why
they thought that, how those thoughts evolved, how they influence us
today. You'd also be required to write many long papers.


Must the papers be of a certain 'bent' to recieve a good grade?


Of course not. What we like to see is evidence the writer properly
prepared himself by reading and assimilating pertinent works, and spent
significant time thinking and writing so as to present a logical,
coherent paper. In class discussions, any ideas are welcome, but the
presenter has to be able to defend them. We try to teach our students to
think logically and to develop and use their wits.


Yes, "must be able to defend them". Against who? A professor with a
liberal bent that might not challenge one side as vigorously as the
other... Especially if that professor doesn't feel one side needs
defending at all... Watched three kids come through the system, and my
mom was a school administrator for almost 50 years, I know how it
works...


You appear unfamiliar with the process of "defending" one's papers,
thoughts, presentations as it is done at the college/university level. I
say that because you are injecting partisan politics into a process that
has nothing to do with partisan politics. The exercise is intellectual,
not political.

No offense, but you seem eager to point fingers and make accusations,
even on subjects about which you know little or nothing.

The challenges to the presenters come not from me, but from fellow
students chosen at random and given a copy of the paper a few days
before the class discussion. The object of the exercise is to develop
logical thinking processes, not to insult the presenters or the
challengers. My role is that of sometime moderator, to keep the
discussions on track and within the time limitations.


You appear unfamiliar with the process of "defending" one's papers,
thoughts, presentations as it is done at the college/university
level.

Panty Goddess never got past grade 8.

No offense, but you seem eager to point fingers and make
accusations,
even on subjects about which you know little or nothing.


Panty Goddess has always done this. Comparable to a Dog that rushes
after blowing leaves.

*e#c October 27th 10 05:40 PM

Youse guys must be rich
 
On Oct 27, 9:54*am, I am Tosk wrote:
In article ,
says...





On 10/27/2010 9:31 AM, I am Tosk wrote:


You seem to be caught up in the rhetoric of those nattering nabobs of
negativism, the tea party and fox news. Not me.


Ahhh, that's it.. I am a conservative, so I must listen to Fox News and
be a teabagger... So narrow minded, these regressives. Everything is
about smearing, shaming, or threatening anybody who opposes the
takeover.


I thought you would appreciate a quote of Spiro T. Agnew, who was a
colorful speaker.


I don't know if you are a teabagger, as you put it. You certainly seem
to share some of the beliefs and attributes of that subset of the GOP.


Well, I'm out of here for most of the rest of today's daylight hours.
Watch out for those Gordian knots.


Uh, just for the record... I am a social liberal, a national
conservative, and a dedicated live and let live libertarian...

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - Pain is temporary, Glory is forever!


You forgot to add that you are a panty wearing coward who hides under
his desk, posting death threats .

JustWaitAFrekinMinute! October 27th 10 06:15 PM

Youse guys must be rich
 
On Oct 27, 12:40*pm, "*e#c" wrote:
On Oct 27, 9:54*am, I am Tosk wrote:





In article ,
says...


On 10/27/2010 9:31 AM, I am Tosk wrote:


You seem to be caught up in the rhetoric of those nattering nabobs of
negativism, the tea party and fox news. Not me.


Ahhh, that's it.. I am a conservative, so I must listen to Fox News and
be a teabagger... So narrow minded, these regressives. Everything is
about smearing, shaming, or threatening anybody who opposes the
takeover.


I thought you would appreciate a quote of Spiro T. Agnew, who was a
colorful speaker.


I don't know if you are a teabagger, as you put it. You certainly seem
to share some of the beliefs and attributes of that subset of the GOP..


Well, I'm out of here for most of the rest of today's daylight hours.
Watch out for those Gordian knots.


Uh, just for the record... I am a social liberal, a national
conservative, and a dedicated live and let live libertarian...


--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - Pain is temporary, Glory is forever!


You forgot to add that you are a panty wearing coward who hides under
his desk, posting death threats .- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Since you seem to be on board with the new guidelines and such, I am
up for debate... As to the death threats, you clearly weeks before
offered to kill me for 5 dollars, you have threatened my wife,
threatened to shoot my daughter, and blow up my home along with my
neighbors, yikes! Nobody would blame me for defending myself sooo.. I
responded with something like, "if you come here to kill me, between
me and the CT justice system, you would go home in a box.." OK, now
we are clear on that but I have another question...Really, you are a
dude, right? What is this "panty goddes", panty goddess, stuff?
Cause,. I gotta' tell you, that almost makes the thought being close
enough to you to blow your frekin' balls off, kinda' weird, really.
Are you trying to "make it weird"? Cause it is, ewwwww.... Hopefully
it won't ruin the experience for me;)

Ha, ha... sorry guys, but I just couldn't help myself;) Sue me....

Wayne.B October 27th 10 06:54 PM

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On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 11:08:46 -0400, "Dr. Dr. Dr. Phd, Md. STD"
wrote:

Well, I didn't know I was spoofing anyone


While you are looking up words, try this one: Disingenuous


Dr. Dr. Dr. Phd, Md. STD October 27th 10 07:14 PM

Youse guys must be rich
 
On 10/27/10 1:54 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 11:08:46 -0400, "Dr. Dr. Dr. Phd, Md. STD"
wrote:

Well, I didn't know I was spoofing anyone


While you are looking up words, try this one: Disingenuous


No, really I am as dumb as I appear to be.

--
Dr. Dr. Dr.
For a good time.

jps October 27th 10 07:35 PM

Youse guys must be rich
 
On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 10:41:23 -0400, "Dr. Dr. Dr. Karen Grear, MD, PhD,
STD" wrote:

On 10/27/10 7:13 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 06:45:47 -0400, "Paul@BYC"
wrote:

Sure, I'm progressive. I believe in progress, in moving forward, in
extending rights, in scientific development, in opening doors, in making
sure the "play" is fair. I don't believe in scapegoating, in blaming one
ethnic group or another for our society's failures, or in trying to get
ahead by scaring large blocks of nervous people.


Now you've done it - sit back and watch the fur fly.

Are you a sociology professor studying internet behavior?


That would make more sense then he is actually trying to get rec.boats
back on topic.


It's pretty obvious you're not a subscriber to higher ed.


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