On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 14:35:54 -0400, I am Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

Last deal fell through, truck had some long scratches in the paint, and the
salesman tried to bull**** me about a noise coming from the vicinity of the CD
player. He told me that since it was a diesel, the truck used electricity to
keep the plugs hot even when the key was out of the ignition. I decided then I
didn't like working with the guy. Besides, I can see no use for the four wheel
drive and the Z71 package, both of which add to the cost, etc. So, I recently
came across this one. The new salesman is checking it out now, cosmetically,
inside and out.

http://tinyurl.com/329plaj

May give him the word today. I like the fact it's $13,000 cheaper than the other
one. Gives me some money to play with. Might get some bigger wheels. It comes
with the 16", but I've been told that bigger is better. Have to do some research
there. You truck owners might help me out here.

Bigger wheels? Do you do off road? If you do, look at BF Goodrich AT
Wranglers for low highway noise and great off road traction. Look at the
reviews, it's all I ever ran on my jeeps which saw a lot of off road,
and I drove it in my job about a thousand miles a week... Nothing
ridiculous, I went up to 31's for the jeeps iirc.. No lift necessary but
plenty of trail crawling fun.

If however you are not going off road, and you are gonna' do a lot of
towing, I would leave the tires the size they are. My bud (the best hot
rod and antique re-builder I know) used to build fast cars but he never
put the big tall rear tires and lift that most of the other hotrodders
of the day were sporting. I asked him once, why? He said, "when the guys
in Detroit designed this car they did a lot of work to see how to sit
this car to handle the best they could, and I am not gonna' second guess
the engineers on that one"... A bit wider tires were ok, with very
innocuous American racing rims, but other than that, all of his hotrods
sat just like it did when they left the factory. Made a lot of sense to
me... just sayin'

His cars were a 68 cuda with a 440 and built, a Cherry 72 Nova, rare
redone hatchback modified with a pretty much stock 350, a four speed
manual tranny, disk brakes from a 75, and a custom steering column from
a corvair to fit around the headers on the 350, his wifes car, a
beautiful 1980 Camaro from Canada with only a "fred" and an o2 sensor
for emissions bull****, 12 bolt and a stock engine, interior, paint, and
last I saw him he was rebuilding a 64 1/2 pony pack he had come across,
garaged with 60+ thousand miles original... and I guarantee that one
has stock height tires on it too. Even though most of his cars are not
considered must have "treasures", each and every one is meticulously
redone, fluxed engines, stripped down to bare metal, re-chromed
everything including interior door lock knobs and window trim, just
beautiful cars.

But either way, sounds to me like you are buying a tool, not just a big
truck to be cool, think of it as a tool, think carefully before you
decide you know more about towing than the kids in Detroit, just my .02
since you asked

Don't know about the 2008, but the new 2500's come with 17, 18, or 20 wheel
options:

*
* 17" Machine Aluminum Wheels 17" Machine Aluminum Wheels
* Standard

*
* 18" Forged Polished Aluminum Wheels 18" Forged Polished Aluminum Wheels
* $545

*
* 20" Forged Polished Aluminum Wheels 20" Forged Polished Aluminum Wheels
* $1,395

The one I'm considering has 16". Hell, even my 4Runner has 17" wheels. No, I
won't be using it for off-road travel. If I go back to Utah and just *need* to
go off-roading, I'll rent a Jeep for a day. That's a hell of a lot cheaper than
a 4WD.
--
John H

All decisions are the result of binary thinking.

In article ,
says...

Don't know about the 2008, but the new 2500's come with 17, 18, or 20 wheel
options:

*
* 17" Machine Aluminum Wheels 17" Machine Aluminum Wheels
* Standard

*
* 18" Forged Polished Aluminum Wheels 18" Forged Polished Aluminum Wheels
* $545

*
* 20" Forged Polished Aluminum Wheels 20" Forged Polished Aluminum Wheels
* $1,395

The one I'm considering has 16". Hell, even my 4Runner has 17" wheels. No, I
won't be using it for off-road travel. If I go back to Utah and just *need* to
go off-roading, I'll rent a Jeep for a day. That's a hell of a lot cheaper than
a 4WD.

I like my 16" chromed steel wheels. Any idiot can replace the tire on
them.

On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 22:47:44 GMT, "A.Boater" wrote:

19.5" tires last about 4-5 times longer than 16" tires and I can change them
in my own garage with $12 worth of tools.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhaKI-IdGJg

It almost looks like the guy is putting 19" tires on 17" rims. :)

It does seem as though the bigger tires would last longer, but BAR brings up a
good point about the speedometer. The new ones, as I mentioned, offer three
wheel sizes, but there is no change to the transmission. I just looked at one of
the Silverado forums, and it seems the big problem would be rubbing when
turning, unless the truck is lifted.

I'll talk to a dealer and see what they say. The tires on this truck are in
great shape, so I won't be doing anything for a while.
--
John H

All decisions are the result of binary thinking.

On Oct 21, 6:59*pm, John H wrote:
On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 22:47:44 GMT, "A.Boater" wrote:
19.5" tires last about 4-5 times longer than 16" tires and I can change them
in my own garage with $12 worth of tools.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhaKI-IdGJg

It almost looks like the guy is putting 19" tires on 17" rims. :)

It does seem as though the bigger tires would last longer, but BAR brings up a
good point about the speedometer. The new ones, as I mentioned, offer three
wheel sizes, but there is no change to the transmission. I just looked at one of
the Silverado forums, and it seems the big problem would be rubbing when
turning, unless the truck is lifted.

I'll talk to a dealer and see what they say. The tires on this truck are in
great shape, so I won't be doing anything for a while.
--
John H

All decisions are the result of binary thinking.

John, the transmissions are the same but the speedo sending unit is
calibrated differently. Plus, the bigger tire will give you a higher
gear ratio, and will do pretty good on daily driving, but would put
extra load on it in a haul.

On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 19:42:45 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Oct 21, 6:59*pm, John H wrote:
On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 22:47:44 GMT, "A.Boater" wrote:
19.5" tires last about 4-5 times longer than 16" tires and I can change them
in my own garage with $12 worth of tools.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhaKI-IdGJg

It almost looks like the guy is putting 19" tires on 17" rims. :)

It does seem as though the bigger tires would last longer, but BAR brings up a
good point about the speedometer. The new ones, as I mentioned, offer three
wheel sizes, but there is no change to the transmission. I just looked at one of
the Silverado forums, and it seems the big problem would be rubbing when
turning, unless the truck is lifted.

I'll talk to a dealer and see what they say. The tires on this truck are in
great shape, so I won't be doing anything for a while.
--
John H

All decisions are the result of binary thinking.

John, the transmissions are the same but the speedo sending unit is
calibrated differently. Plus, the bigger tire will give you a higher
gear ratio, and will do pretty good on daily driving, but would put
extra load on it in a haul.

Depending upon the aspect ratios of the tires, the bigger tire would be very
close in diameter to the 'smaller' tire.

A 235/85R16 has a diameter of about 31.7". A 225/70R19.5 has a diameter of about
31.9". That's getting pretty damn close. (And that's assuming I did the math
right.)
--
John H

All decisions are the result of binary thinking.

On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 00:14:16 GMT, "A.Boater" wrote:

BAR is out of his element, again.

There is a ton of paraphenalia out there to recalibrate the speedometer.
Final choice of vehicle will determine how this will be accomplished.

Been there, done that.

I'm wondering if recalibrating the speedometer can be done using the onboard
computer.
--
John H

All decisions are the result of binary thinking.

On Oct 21, 7:32*pm, John H wrote:
On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 00:14:16 GMT, "A.Boater" wrote:
BAR is out of his element, again.

There is a ton of paraphenalia out there to recalibrate the speedometer.
Final choice of vehicle will determine how this will be accomplished.

Been there, done that.

I'm wondering if recalibrating the speedometer can be done using the onboard
computer.
--
John H

All decisions are the result of binary thinking.

Yes, and the dealer or maybe the guys at the tire shop can do it.

On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 19:45:58 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Oct 21, 7:32*pm, John H wrote:
On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 00:14:16 GMT, "A.Boater" wrote:
BAR is out of his element, again.

There is a ton of paraphenalia out there to recalibrate the speedometer.
Final choice of vehicle will determine how this will be accomplished.

Been there, done that.

I'm wondering if recalibrating the speedometer can be done using the onboard
computer.
--
John H

All decisions are the result of binary thinking.

Yes, and the dealer or maybe the guys at the tire shop can do it.

Good to know. Thanks.

I've been reading about that Olympus. Damn difficult instruction book. Must have
been written by the guys who design BMWs.
--
John H

All decisions are the result of binary thinking.

On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 20:15:06 -0400, I am Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 14:35:54 -0400, I am Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

Last deal fell through, truck had some long scratches in the paint, and the
salesman tried to bull**** me about a noise coming from the vicinity of the CD
player. He told me that since it was a diesel, the truck used electricity to
keep the plugs hot even when the key was out of the ignition. I decided then I
didn't like working with the guy. Besides, I can see no use for the four wheel
drive and the Z71 package, both of which add to the cost, etc. So, I recently
came across this one. The new salesman is checking it out now, cosmetically,
inside and out.

http://tinyurl.com/329plaj

May give him the word today. I like the fact it's $13,000 cheaper than the other
one. Gives me some money to play with. Might get some bigger wheels. It comes
with the 16", but I've been told that bigger is better. Have to do some research
there. You truck owners might help me out here.

Bigger wheels? Do you do off road? If you do, look at BF Goodrich AT
Wranglers for low highway noise and great off road traction. Look at the
reviews, it's all I ever ran on my jeeps which saw a lot of off road,
and I drove it in my job about a thousand miles a week... Nothing
ridiculous, I went up to 31's for the jeeps iirc.. No lift necessary but
plenty of trail crawling fun.

If however you are not going off road, and you are gonna' do a lot of
towing, I would leave the tires the size they are. My bud (the best hot
rod and antique re-builder I know) used to build fast cars but he never
put the big tall rear tires and lift that most of the other hotrodders
of the day were sporting. I asked him once, why? He said, "when the guys
in Detroit designed this car they did a lot of work to see how to sit
this car to handle the best they could, and I am not gonna' second guess
the engineers on that one"... A bit wider tires were ok, with very
innocuous American racing rims, but other than that, all of his hotrods
sat just like it did when they left the factory. Made a lot of sense to
me... just sayin'

His cars were a 68 cuda with a 440 and built, a Cherry 72 Nova, rare
redone hatchback modified with a pretty much stock 350, a four speed
manual tranny, disk brakes from a 75, and a custom steering column from
a corvair to fit around the headers on the 350, his wifes car, a
beautiful 1980 Camaro from Canada with only a "fred" and an o2 sensor
for emissions bull****, 12 bolt and a stock engine, interior, paint, and
last I saw him he was rebuilding a 64 1/2 pony pack he had come across,
garaged with 60+ thousand miles original... and I guarantee that one
has stock height tires on it too. Even though most of his cars are not
considered must have "treasures", each and every one is meticulously
redone, fluxed engines, stripped down to bare metal, re-chromed
everything including interior door lock knobs and window trim, just
beautiful cars.

But either way, sounds to me like you are buying a tool, not just a big
truck to be cool, think of it as a tool, think carefully before you
decide you know more about towing than the kids in Detroit, just my .02
since you asked

Don't know about the 2008, but the new 2500's come with 17, 18, or 20 wheel
options:

*
* 17" Machine Aluminum Wheels 17" Machine Aluminum Wheels
* Standard

*
* 18" Forged Polished Aluminum Wheels 18" Forged Polished Aluminum Wheels
* $545

*
* 20" Forged Polished Aluminum Wheels 20" Forged Polished Aluminum Wheels
* $1,395

The one I'm considering has 16". Hell, even my 4Runner has 17" wheels. No, I
won't be using it for off-road travel. If I go back to Utah and just *need* to
go off-roading, I'll rent a Jeep for a day. That's a hell of a lot cheaper than
a 4WD.

Yeah, I was thinking you were saying bigger tires.. I am not up on all
this new fangled big "wheel" thing I was confused... Sounds like you
got a plan... How are the launches around you?

The ramps I use are all in good shape. With the small boat I've got, and the
proper tongue weight, launching and retrieving will be no problem. I never had a
serious problem with the 2WD GMC 1500 I had (once I moved the boat to where it
should have been when the trailer was set up).
--
John H

All decisions are the result of binary thinking.