Doug,
Sounds like a plan. :-)
Paul

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
Now...for guys like you just described, could there be any reason in U.S.
law why it would be wrong to put them in pillories in a public place,
perhaps a mall entrance, and let children throw rotten tomatoes at them
for
an afternoon? :-) For every time a kid under 12 hits them from a certain
distance, the dummies have to donate a buck to a worthwhile charity.

"Paul Schilter" paulschilter@comcast,dot,net wrote in message
news
We have these ice fishermen on Lake Saint Clair that insist on going on
the
ice when thin ice warnings are posted, invariable the Coast Guard has to
come out on rescue them when the ice they're fishing on breaks away from
the
mainland and they're cast adrift. IMO they should be charged for the
expense for air lifting them out.
Paul

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
Well, sometimes it's justified. In the case of hikers, I recall at
least
two
news stories which mentioned that the searches had cost a couple of
small
town police departments a few hundred grand for helicopter time, etc.
In
both cases, the hikers were woefully unprepared and inexperienced, for
the
terrain and weather they were trying to tackle. That's wrong.

"Keith" wrote in message
...
Yep. Your tax dollars are no longer enough... they'll charge you by
the
hour
if they possibly can.

--


Keith
__
If you must pick between two evils, pick the one you've never tried
before.
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
I'm curious: The park service and other agencies say that if they
have
to
rescue people incompetent backpackers who think their first
practice
run
should be in January in North Dakota, they will charge them for
the
expenses
incurred. Has anyone heard of the Coast Guard saying similar
things?

On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 11:38:58 -0500, "Keith"
wrote:

Yep. Your tax dollars are no longer enough... they'll charge you by the hour
if they possibly can.

--

the CG doesn't charge. if the call is a hoax, that's a different
matter.

---------------------------
to see who "wf3h" is, go to "qrz.com"
and enter 'wf3h' in the field

First, take the USCG boating safety course. Wait a while before taking
the trip until you get some experience with the boat. I have been "up
the coast" to the Hudson many times. It is a favorite October trip.

You may want to look at my website about the abandon ship and life
jacket page.

Capt. Frank Hopkins

http://www.home.earthlink.net/~aartworks



gmar wrote:

Hello all,

I was hoping that soneone could answer a question for me. In the near
future I will be in the market for a boat that I can take out onto the
ocean. my plan is to travel from NY to FL along the eastren us. I do
not have any experience driving a boat.

That being said, I am looking for information on any license that may
be needed. I have been told that a open water pilot license is
required. Is this true ? If so how do I go about getting one. If
not is there someplace that offers training ?

I would like to have a good idea of what I am doing before I make any
purchase. I have spent enough time at/on the ocean to know this much,
the minute you stop respecting it, it kills you. I would like to ovid
that.

What's wrong with this country? Why don't we have pillories any more? If we
used them in weather which wouldn't hurt the offender (frost, lightning), I
don't think they could be considered cruel. Perfect for people who water
their lawns when reservoirs are 60% below capacity. Or, the knuckleheads who
leave a driveway at 2:00 AM and say goodbye to the people in the house by
honking their horn. Small crimes...but the kind that should be repaid with
embarrassing penalties. Anyone want to add to the list?


"Paul Schilter" paulschilter@comcast,dot,net wrote in message
...
Doug,
Sounds like a plan. :-)
Paul

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
Now...for guys like you just described, could there be any reason in
U.S.
law why it would be wrong to put them in pillories in a public place,
perhaps a mall entrance, and let children throw rotten tomatoes at them
for
an afternoon? :-) For every time a kid under 12 hits them from a
certain
distance, the dummies have to donate a buck to a worthwhile charity.

"Paul Schilter" paulschilter@comcast,dot,net wrote in message
news
We have these ice fishermen on Lake Saint Clair that insist on going
on
the
ice when thin ice warnings are posted, invariable the Coast Guard has
to
come out on rescue them when the ice they're fishing on breaks away
from
the
mainland and they're cast adrift. IMO they should be charged for the
expense for air lifting them out.
Paul

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
Well, sometimes it's justified. In the case of hikers, I recall at
least
two
news stories which mentioned that the searches had cost a couple of
small
town police departments a few hundred grand for helicopter time,
etc.
In
both cases, the hikers were woefully unprepared and inexperienced,
for
the
terrain and weather they were trying to tackle. That's wrong.

"Keith" wrote in message
...
Yep. Your tax dollars are no longer enough... they'll charge you
by
the
hour
if they possibly can.

--


Keith
__
If you must pick between two evils, pick the one you've never
tried
before.
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
I'm curious: The park service and other agencies say that if
they
have
to
rescue people incompetent backpackers who think their first
practice
run
should be in January in North Dakota, they will charge them for
the
expenses
incurred. Has anyone heard of the Coast Guard saying similar
things?

Doug,
Littering, no reason for it.
Paul

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
What's wrong with this country? Why don't we have pillories any more? If
we
used them in weather which wouldn't hurt the offender (frost, lightning),
I
don't think they could be considered cruel. Perfect for people who water
their lawns when reservoirs are 60% below capacity. Or, the knuckleheads
who
leave a driveway at 2:00 AM and say goodbye to the people in the house by
honking their horn. Small crimes...but the kind that should be repaid with
embarrassing penalties. Anyone want to add to the list?


"Paul Schilter" paulschilter@comcast,dot,net wrote in message
...
Doug,
Sounds like a plan. :-)
Paul

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
Now...for guys like you just described, could there be any reason in
U.S.
law why it would be wrong to put them in pillories in a public place,
perhaps a mall entrance, and let children throw rotten tomatoes at
them
for
an afternoon? :-) For every time a kid under 12 hits them from a
certain
distance, the dummies have to donate a buck to a worthwhile charity.

"Paul Schilter" paulschilter@comcast,dot,net wrote in message
news We have these ice fishermen on Lake Saint Clair that insist on going
on
the
ice when thin ice warnings are posted, invariable the Coast Guard
has
to
come out on rescue them when the ice they're fishing on breaks away
from
the
mainland and they're cast adrift. IMO they should be charged for
the
expense for air lifting them out.
Paul

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
Well, sometimes it's justified. In the case of hikers, I recall at
least
two
news stories which mentioned that the searches had cost a couple
of
small
town police departments a few hundred grand for helicopter time,
etc.
In
both cases, the hikers were woefully unprepared and inexperienced,
for
the
terrain and weather they were trying to tackle. That's wrong.

"Keith" wrote in message
...
Yep. Your tax dollars are no longer enough... they'll charge you
by
the
hour
if they possibly can.

--


Keith
__
If you must pick between two evils, pick the one you've never
tried
before.
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
I'm curious: The park service and other agencies say that if
they
have
to
rescue people incompetent backpackers who think their first
practice
run
should be in January in North Dakota, they will charge them
for
the
expenses
incurred. Has anyone heard of the Coast Guard saying similar
things?

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
What's wrong with this country? Why don't we have pillories any more? If
we
used them in weather which wouldn't hurt the offender (frost, lightning),
I
don't think they could be considered cruel. Perfect for people who water
their lawns when reservoirs are 60% below capacity. Or, the knuckleheads
who
leave a driveway at 2:00 AM and say goodbye to the people in the house by
honking their horn. Small crimes...but the kind that should be repaid with
embarrassing penalties. Anyone want to add to the list?

snip
Road rage inducing traffic violation: Cutting in - illegal passing, etc.
Speeding in a school zone
Operating a Boom Boom car.
Walking a dog that craps on my lawn

Mark Browne

Anchoring one's boat in the middle of a bunch of others, all of whom are
enjoying a quiet cove, and then cranking up your stereo. They get the metal
pillories during a lightning storm. :-)

And then there is the incident during the "poor boy's fishin'
tournament" where the pack of go-fast bass boats blew through 2
anchorage's "no wake zone", 1 manatee zone, and a fuel dock area, and an
"idle speed only" while tossing impressive rooster tails. Once they
cleared the bridge, the lead boat encountered the wake of a large
vessel, went airborne, and ejected the passenger, whom was then run over
by the following boat. He lost his arm to a prop.
USCG to the rescue with a chopper and boat. And, all of it un-necessary.
Now, who should pay the bill on that one? The boater, the tournament, or
you and I?

Capt. Frank

DaveH wrote:

You should hear some of the incompotent nonsense that happens here on the
Chesapeake. Recently I heard an exchange between a tow-boat operator, and
some guy who'd piloted his boat up onto some rocks, about 2AM. The tow-boat
guy told the boater to attach the tow-hook to the D-ring on his transom.
The boater asked for help locating his transom. Then the tow-dude told Mr.
Stranded to shine his light where the tow-hook was attached to the boat.
Then, he said "Don't shine the light on me, shine it where the line is
attached to YOUR boat." I kid you not.

Dave

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

Well, sometimes it's justified. In the case of hikers, I recall at least

two

news stories which mentioned that the searches had cost a couple of small
town police departments a few hundred grand for helicopter time, etc. In
both cases, the hikers were woefully unprepared and inexperienced, for the
terrain and weather they were trying to tackle. That's wrong.

"Keith" wrote in message
...

Yep. Your tax dollars are no longer enough... they'll charge you by the

hour

if they possibly can.

--


Keith
__
If you must pick between two evils, pick the one you've never tried

before.

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

I'm curious: The park service and other agencies say that if they have

to

rescue people incompetent backpackers who think their first practice

run

should be in January in North Dakota, they will charge them for the

expenses

incurred. Has anyone heard of the Coast Guard saying similar things?

Capt. Frank Hopkins wrote:

And then there is the incident during the "poor boy's fishin'
tournament" where the pack of go-fast bass boats blew through 2
anchorage's "no wake zone", 1 manatee zone, and a fuel dock area, and an
"idle speed only" while tossing impressive rooster tails. Once they
cleared the bridge, the lead boat encountered the wake of a large
vessel, went airborne, and ejected the passenger, whom was then run over
by the following boat. He lost his arm to a prop.
USCG to the rescue with a chopper and boat. And, all of it un-necessary.
Now, who should pay the bill on that one? The boater, the tournament, or
you and I?

Capt. Frank

Hey, we've got a new contributor to this newsgroup who took his 16'
Bayliner out into 8' waves on Lake Erie because he didn't want to be
late to a party his girlfriend was having.

Stupidity isn't limited to your part of the waterways.


--
* * *
email sent to will *never* get to me.

And then there is the incident during the "poor boy's fishin'
tournament" where the pack of go-fast bass boats

A responsible BASS would rewrite the rules to take the boat race factor out of
the "fishing" tournament. It is ridiculous to inflict 250 hp bass boats on the
residents of small lakes just because Bill Dance has one and "we all want to be
like Bill".
If you just want a boat that goes 60MPH, buy one, but don't try to tell us it
is because you need it to catch fish on a small lake.