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Wayne.B October 17th 10 06:42 AM

New truck?
 
On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 11:11:50 -0400, John H
wrote:

The Carmax one had all the bells and whistles, which can add $10-15K pretty
quickly.


You may not need all that. The only extras I got on my Tundra were
the V8, 4wd/off road, and trailer towing.


JustWaitAFrekinMinute! October 17th 10 11:14 AM

New truck?
 
On Oct 17, 1:42*am, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 11:11:50 -0400, John H
wrote:

The Carmax one had all the bells and whistles, which can add $10-15K pretty
quickly.


You may not need all that. * The only extras I got on my Tundra were
the V8, 4wd/off road, and trailer towing.


What's that go for new?

Secular Humouresque[_2_] October 17th 10 11:51 AM

New truck?
 
On 10/17/10 6:14 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute! wrote:
On Oct 17, 1:42 am, wrote:
On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 11:11:50 -0400, John
wrote:

The Carmax one had all the bells and whistles, which can add $10-15K pretty
quickly.


You may not need all that. The only extras I got on my Tundra were
the V8, 4wd/off road, and trailer towing.


What's that go for new?


http://tinyurl.com/33ddzl2

$19.95, about all an unemployed schnook who can't pay his hospital bills
can afford.


--
Guns Don't Kill People -- Fundamentalist Religion Kills People!

John H[_2_] October 17th 10 12:19 PM

New truck?
 
On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 12:22:28 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:



I'd be nervous of him
handling anything that big towing a travel trailer larger than his current
one.


Well, I'm sure John has driven an M35-A2 Oshkosh down places that
wern't considered a road before.

Pulling a truck and a camper or boat should be a breeze.


Doesn't that bring back the days.

http://tinyurl.com/2en3r7t

I spent my share of time behind the wheel.
--
John H

All decisions are the result of binary thinking.

John H[_2_] October 17th 10 12:21 PM

New truck?
 
On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 19:01:49 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 13:09:59 -0400, John H
wrote:

If you are dunking your truck tires on a ramp you have a trailer
problem and 4wd is useless on ice. You end up losing all 4 wheels at
once and turns your vehicle into a hockey puck. It may be handy in
deep snow but that is not a huge problem around DC.


4WD isn't all that necessary around here, although it came in handy with all the
snow we had last winter. I did use my 4WD while in Utah. There are many roads
and trails off the beaten path where a 4WD comes in right handy.

Will I need it a lot? No. But, when I do, it'll be nice to have.
--


Every once in a while I think it would be nice to have a back hoe too
;-)


My favorite toy would be a Bob Cat with all the attachments.
--
John H

All decisions are the result of binary thinking.

John H[_2_] October 17th 10 12:24 PM

New truck?
 
On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 12:35:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Oct 16, 2:30*pm, Secular Humouresque wrote:
On 10/16/10 3:22 PM, Tim wrote:



I'd be nervous of him
handling anything that big towing a travel trailer larger than his current
one.


Well, I'm sure John has driven an *M35-A2 *Oshkosh down places that
wern't considered a road before.


Pulling a truck and a camper or boat should be a breeze.


Depends on the driver and the circumstances. I've seen large travel
trailers and large boats literally virtually jackknife on the road in
front of us when the driver swerved for one reason or another. In my
opinion, too many trailer towers drive too damned fast for conditions
and their abilities. 60-65 mph should be the legal limit when you are
towing a trailer and there should be a mandatory road safety course plus
a notation on your license before you can tow anything bigger than the
smallest trailer.
--
Guns Don't Kill People -- Fundamentalist Religion Kills People!


In Illinois the max speed for anything pulling a trailer is 60 mph. I
will agree that there are alot of simpletons out there who go too fast
on the interstates and demand too much out of their towing vehicle.

I blame that alot on the pick up builders advertizing outragous
pulling capacities with minimal safety equipment like... brakes.
especially on the trailer.


In Virginia the trailers must be safety inspected annually. Anything over about
3000lbs (lnot sure of the number), must have trailer brakes. These are checked
annually.
--
John H

All decisions are the result of binary thinking.

John H[_2_] October 17th 10 12:26 PM

New truck?
 
On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 17:57:05 -0400, I am Tosk
wrote:

In article 4625ff3e-6579-4bc5-8ef2-1478e91c8bc4
, says...

On Oct 16, 2:30*pm, Secular Humouresque wrote:
On 10/16/10 3:22 PM, Tim wrote:



I'd be nervous of him
handling anything that big towing a travel trailer larger than his current
one.

Well, I'm sure John has driven an *M35-A2 *Oshkosh down places that
wern't considered a road before.

Pulling a truck and a camper or boat should be a breeze.

Depends on the driver and the circumstances. I've seen large travel
trailers and large boats literally virtually jackknife on the road in
front of us when the driver swerved for one reason or another. In my
opinion, too many trailer towers drive too damned fast for conditions
and their abilities. 60-65 mph should be the legal limit when you are
towing a trailer and there should be a mandatory road safety course plus
a notation on your license before you can tow anything bigger than the
smallest trailer.
--
Guns Don't Kill People -- Fundamentalist Religion Kills People!


In Illinois the max speed for anything pulling a trailer is 60 mph. I
will agree that there are alot of simpletons out there who go too fast
on the interstates and demand too much out of their towing vehicle.

I blame that alot on the pick up builders advertizing outragous
pulling capacities with minimal safety equipment like... brakes.
especially on the trailer.


What cracks me up is these 150 class trucks with massive bodies, set two
feet off the ground from the factory... As if the guy is gonna' go off
road, maybe if he backs over his neighbors rose garden snerk...


What cracks me up are Harry's comments about me towing a trailer - after I've
just finished almost 6700 miles of towing one!

What a hoot.
--
John H

All decisions are the result of binary thinking.

John H[_2_] October 17th 10 12:28 PM

New truck?
 
On Sun, 17 Oct 2010 01:42:30 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 11:11:50 -0400, John H
wrote:

The Carmax one had all the bells and whistles, which can add $10-15K pretty
quickly.


You may not need all that. The only extras I got on my Tundra were
the V8, 4wd/off road, and trailer towing.


I could get by without the leather. My wife likes all the 'yummies'. Hell, she
rides in it also, so she should have some say.

If we buy anything, it'll probably be this one. http://tinyurl.com/2a7lejw
--
John H

All decisions are the result of binary thinking.

mmc October 17th 10 02:11 PM

New truck?
 


"John H" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 12:08:02 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 11:03:02 -0400, Harry®
wrote:

I am not sure why anyone in Northern Va would need a 4wd. That is
needless complexity and lower gas mileage for a feature you might only
use once or twice a year in a freak snow storm.
I had a Jeep for 5 years across the river from him and I may have
actually used the 4wd for something where I really needed it 6 or 7
times. I probably should have stayed home and enjoyed my fireplace but
I had a Jeep.. Most of the time I was just out on the beltway heating
up 2 extra gear cases full of 90 wt.


Boat launching and off road camping come to mind. And there is the
occasional ice storm.


If you are dunking your truck tires on a ramp you have a trailer
problem and 4wd is useless on ice. You end up losing all 4 wheels at
once and turns your vehicle into a hockey puck. It may be handy in
deep snow but that is not a huge problem around DC.


4WD isn't all that necessary around here, although it came in handy with
all the
snow we had last winter. I did use my 4WD while in Utah. There are many
roads
and trails off the beaten path where a 4WD comes in right handy.

Will I need it a lot? No. But, when I do, it'll be nice to have.
--
John H

All decisions are the result of binary thinking.


Yeah and when you do need it and don't have it "aw crap! why didn't I pony
up the extra couple grand?"


Harry® October 17th 10 02:13 PM

New truck?
 
"John H" wrote in message ...
On Oct 16, 10:51 am, Harry® wrote:
"John H" wrote in messagenews:blahb6hkvrt6k2gciplqseot328a527htg@4ax .com...
On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 11:47:00 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
. ..
Should I, or should I not? I've about decided that diesel pickups are too
damn
expensive. I'm looking pretty seriously at this:


http://tinyurl.com/27ehnzo


Any comments? Any experience with this beast? Consumer Reports gives it a
great
rating, and the damn thing will tow over 10K pounds.
--
John H


All decisions are the result of binary thinking.


Too expensive. a 3 year old diesel would be the same or cheaper. Nice
truck, but the 10K tow rating is max and towing the gas mileage sucks.


Well, I have to admit I like this one also.


http://tinyurl.com/25mfnlh
--
John H


All decisions are the result of binary thinking.


Someone else seems to have beat you to it.

--
I'm the real Harry, and I post from a PC or a MAC, as virtually everyone knows.
If a post is attributed to me, and it isn't from a PC or a MAC, it's from an ID
spoofer who hasn't the balls to post with his current ID.

The magnificent Boatless Harry


Carmax put up a site I can access. Here's the truck: http://tinyurl.com/2a7lejw


Sure is pretty. I can see why it appeals to you. The price tag seems a little steep though. I'll bet it sold new (discounted) for less than they are asking for it now. Cash is King. Keep shopping.

If a post is attributed to me, and it isn't from a PC or a MAC, it's from an ID
spoofer who hasn't the balls to post with his current ID.

The magnificent Boatless Harry


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