Total request for non-ethanol "marine" fuel
 

http://mywebtimes.com/archives/ottaw....php?id=415267

i wish more stations offered non-blended fuel. If there was easier
access for pure fossil fuel, I probably would have second thoughts
about converting my pontoon over to a 4 cycle and ditching the v-4
Johnson.

Total request for non-ethanol "marine" fuel
 

Tim wrote:
http://mywebtimes.com/archives/ottaw....php?id=415267

i wish more stations offered non-blended fuel. If there was easier
access for pure fossil fuel, I probably would have second thoughts
about converting my pontoon over to a 4 cycle and ditching the v-4
Johnson.

E15 is OK for newer motors - so they say...

Total request for non-ethanol "marine" fuel
 

On Oct 8, 8:52*pm, LG wrote:
Tim wrote:
http://mywebtimes.com/archives/ottaw....php?id=415267

i wish more stations offered non-blended fuel. If there was easier
access for pure fossil fuel, I probably would have second thoughts
about converting my pontoon over to a 4 cycle and ditching the v-4
Johnson.

E15 is OK for newer motors - so they say...

And it possible may be, but mine is a 1977. And I'll probably run it
till it craters, then use up my spare 115 evinrude I have sitting int
he back of my building.

Total request for non-ethanol "marine" fuel
 

On 10/8/10 10:12 PM, Tim wrote:
On Oct 8, 8:52 pm, wrote:
Tim wrote:
http://mywebtimes.com/archives/ottaw....php?id=415267

i wish more stations offered non-blended fuel. If there was easier
access for pure fossil fuel, I probably would have second thoughts
about converting my pontoon over to a 4 cycle and ditching the v-4
Johnson.

E15 is OK for newer motors - so they say...

And it possible may be, but mine is a 1977. And I'll probably run it
till it craters, then use up my spare 115 evinrude I have sitting int
he back of my building.

And maybe gas stations should sell leaded fuel to accommodate the owners
of old wreck cars.


--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals

Total request for non-ethanol "marine" fuel
 

On Oct 9, 7:24*am, Secular Humouresque wrote:
On 10/8/10 10:12 PM, Tim wrote:

On Oct 8, 8:52 pm, *wrote:
Tim wrote:
http://mywebtimes.com/archives/ottaw....php?id=415267

i wish more stations offered non-blended fuel. If there was easier
access for pure fossil fuel, I probably would have second thoughts
about converting my pontoon over to a 4 cycle and ditching the v-4
Johnson.

E15 is OK for newer motors - so they say...

And it possible may be, but mine is a 1977. *And I'll probably run it
till it craters, then use up my spare 115 evinrude I have sitting int
he back of my building.

And maybe gas stations should sell leaded fuel to accommodate the owners
of old wreck cars.

--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals

They do! Older cars run fairly well on the un-leaded fuel available
today even on the 15 % ethanol blend.

.. But you don't have to have ethanol in every motor fuel.

Total request for non-ethanol "marine" fuel
 

On 10/9/10 8:44 AM, Tim wrote:
On Oct 9, 7:24 am, Secular wrote:
On 10/8/10 10:12 PM, Tim wrote:

On Oct 8, 8:52 pm, wrote:
Tim wrote:
http://mywebtimes.com/archives/ottaw....php?id=415267

i wish more stations offered non-blended fuel. If there was easier
access for pure fossil fuel, I probably would have second thoughts
about converting my pontoon over to a 4 cycle and ditching the v-4
Johnson.

E15 is OK for newer motors - so they say...

And it possible may be, but mine is a 1977. And I'll probably run it
till it craters, then use up my spare 115 evinrude I have sitting int
he back of my building.

And maybe gas stations should sell leaded fuel to accommodate the owners
of old wreck cars.

--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals

They do! Older cars run fairly well on the un-leaded fuel available
today even on the 15 % ethanol blend.

. But you don't have to have ethanol in every motor fuel.

i don't recall when ethanol became part of the gasoline that is sold
everywhere, but none of the outboards I've owned dating back to the
1990's every had any fuel-related problems, even when 60 gallons of it
sat in the boat over the winter. That list of outboards includes 90, 115
and 135 hp mercs, and 150 and 225 hp yamahas. Maybe it would be easier
for you to buy a decent used outboard made in this century.

--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals

Total request for non-ethanol "marine" fuel
 

On Oct 9, 7:55*am, Secular Humouresque wrote:
On 10/9/10 8:44 AM, Tim wrote:



On Oct 9, 7:24 am, Secular *wrote:
On 10/8/10 10:12 PM, Tim wrote:

On Oct 8, 8:52 pm, * *wrote:
Tim wrote:
http://mywebtimes.com/archives/ottaw....php?id=415267

i wish more stations offered non-blended fuel. If there was easier
access for pure fossil fuel, I probably would have second thoughts
about converting my pontoon over to a 4 cycle and ditching the v-4
Johnson.

E15 is OK for newer motors - so they say...

And it possible may be, but mine is a 1977. *And I'll probably run it
till it craters, then use up my spare 115 evinrude I have sitting int
he back of my building.

And maybe gas stations should sell leaded fuel to accommodate the owners
of old wreck cars.

--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals

They do! * Older cars run fairly well on the un-leaded fuel available
today even on the 15 % ethanol blend.

. But you don't have to have ethanol in every motor fuel.

i don't recall when ethanol became part of the gasoline that is sold
everywhere, but none of the outboards I've owned dating back to the
1990's every had any fuel-related problems, even when 60 gallons of it
sat in the boat over the winter. That list of outboards includes 90, 115
and 135 hp mercs, and 150 and 225 hp yamahas. Maybe it would be easier
for you to buy a decent used outboard made in this century.

--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals

Not really. i seed know reason to payy many thousands of dollars for
an outbaord . any outboard

Total request for non-ethanol "marine" fuel
 

"Tim" wrote in message ...
http://mywebtimes.com/archives/ottaw....php?id=415267

i wish more stations offered non-blended fuel. If there was easier
access for pure fossil fuel, I probably would have second thoughts
about converting my pontoon over to a 4 cycle and ditching the v-4
Johnson.


Unblended gas is available here at a 35 cent premium. I tried a tankfull in my car and my gas mileage went down, not up. Apparently the computer couldn't adapt.

--
I'm the real Harry, and I post from a PC or a MAC, as virtually everyone knows.
If a post is attributed to me, and it isn't from a PC or a MAC, it's from an ID
spoofer who hasn't the balls to post with his current ID.

The magnificent Boatless Harry

Total request for non-ethanol "marine" fuel
 

On Oct 9, 8:05*am, Harry® wrote:
"Tim" wrote in ...
http://mywebtimes.com/archives/ottaw....php?id=415267

i wish more stations offered non-blended fuel. If there was easier
access for pure fossil fuel, I probably would have second thoughts
about converting my pontoon over to a 4 cycle and ditching the v-4
Johnson.

Unblended gas is available here at a 35 cent premium. I tried a tankfull in my car and my gas mileage went down, not up. Apparently the computer couldn't adapt.

--
I'm the real Harry, and I post from a PC or a MAC, as virtually everyone knows.
If a post is attributed to me, and it isn't from a PC or a MAC, it's from an ID
spoofer who hasn't the balls to post with his current ID.

The magnificent Boatless Harry

Yes, and that's probably right. the cheap stuff works better in the
computerized cars , but chain saws and other 2 cycle engines seem to
last longer with the straight fossile fuel. Or at least thats my
opinion.

Total request for non-ethanol "marine" fuel
 

On 10/9/10 9:04 AM, Tim wrote:
On Oct 9, 7:55 am, Secular wrote:
On 10/9/10 8:44 AM, Tim wrote:



On Oct 9, 7:24 am, Secular wrote:
On 10/8/10 10:12 PM, Tim wrote:

On Oct 8, 8:52 pm, wrote:
Tim wrote:
http://mywebtimes.com/archives/ottaw....php?id=415267

i wish more stations offered non-blended fuel. If there was easier
access for pure fossil fuel, I probably would have second thoughts
about converting my pontoon over to a 4 cycle and ditching the v-4
Johnson.

E15 is OK for newer motors - so they say...

And it possible may be, but mine is a 1977. And I'll probably run it
till it craters, then use up my spare 115 evinrude I have sitting int
he back of my building.

And maybe gas stations should sell leaded fuel to accommodate the owners
of old wreck cars.

--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals

They do! Older cars run fairly well on the un-leaded fuel available
today even on the 15 % ethanol blend.

. But you don't have to have ethanol in every motor fuel.

i don't recall when ethanol became part of the gasoline that is sold
everywhere, but none of the outboards I've owned dating back to the
1990's every had any fuel-related problems, even when 60 gallons of it
sat in the boat over the winter. That list of outboards includes 90, 115
and 135 hp mercs, and 150 and 225 hp yamahas. Maybe it would be easier
for you to buy a decent used outboard made in this century.

--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals

Not really. i seed know reason to payy many thousands of dollars for
an outbaord . any outboard


Is that like my rationale for avoiding at all costs I/O's?


--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals

Total request for non-ethanol "marine" fuel
 

"Secular Humouresque" wrote in message ...
On 10/9/10 8:44 AM, Tim wrote:
On Oct 9, 7:24 am, Secular wrote:
On 10/8/10 10:12 PM, Tim wrote:

On Oct 8, 8:52 pm, wrote:
Tim wrote:
http://mywebtimes.com/archives/ottaw....php?id=415267

i wish more stations offered non-blended fuel. If there was easier
access for pure fossil fuel, I probably would have second thoughts
about converting my pontoon over to a 4 cycle and ditching the v-4
Johnson.

E15 is OK for newer motors - so they say...

And it possible may be, but mine is a 1977. And I'll probably run it
till it craters, then use up my spare 115 evinrude I have sitting int
he back of my building.

And maybe gas stations should sell leaded fuel to accommodate the owners
of old wreck cars.

--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals

They do! Older cars run fairly well on the un-leaded fuel available
today even on the 15 % ethanol blend.

. But you don't have to have ethanol in every motor fuel.

i don't recall when ethanol became part of the gasoline that is sold
everywhere, but none of the outboards I've owned dating back to the
1990's every had any fuel-related problems, even when 60 gallons of it
sat in the boat over the winter. That list of outboards includes 90, 115
and 135 hp mercs, and 150 and 225 hp yamahas. Maybe it would be easier
for you to buy a decent used outboard made in this century.

--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals


Some folks tinker with old boats by desire or necessity. It's not every old boy that has a sugar momma to to put him in a new boat every year or two. To each his own, eh.

--
I'm the real Harry, and I post from a PC or a MAC, as virtually everyone knows.
If a post is attributed to me, and it isn't from a PC or a MAC, it's from an ID
spoofer who hasn't the balls to post with his current ID.

The magnificent Boatless Harry

Total request for non-ethanol "marine" fuel
 

On Oct 9, 8:13*am, Secular Humouresque wrote:
On 10/9/10 9:04 AM, Tim wrote:



On Oct 9, 7:55 am, Secular *wrote:
On 10/9/10 8:44 AM, Tim wrote:

On Oct 9, 7:24 am, Secular * *wrote:
On 10/8/10 10:12 PM, Tim wrote:

On Oct 8, 8:52 pm, * * *wrote:
Tim wrote:
http://mywebtimes.com/archives/ottaw....php?id=415267

i wish more stations offered non-blended fuel. If there was easier
access for pure fossil fuel, I probably would have second thoughts
about converting my pontoon over to a 4 cycle and ditching the v-4
Johnson.

E15 is OK for newer motors - so they say...

And it possible may be, but mine is a 1977. *And I'll probably run it
till it craters, then use up my spare 115 evinrude I have sitting int
he back of my building.

And maybe gas stations should sell leaded fuel to accommodate the owners
of old wreck cars.

--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals

They do! * Older cars run fairly well on the un-leaded fuel available
today even on the 15 % ethanol blend.

. But you don't have to have ethanol in every motor fuel.

i don't recall when ethanol became part of the gasoline that is sold
everywhere, but none of the outboards I've owned dating back to the
1990's every had any fuel-related problems, even when 60 gallons of it
sat in the boat over the winter. That list of outboards includes 90, 115
and 135 hp mercs, and 150 and 225 hp yamahas. Maybe it would be easier
for you to buy a decent used outboard made in this century.

--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals

Not really. i seed know reason to payy many thousands of dollars for
an outbaord . any outboard

Is that like my rationale for avoiding at all costs I/O's?

--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals

LOL! could be.

Total request for non-ethanol "marine" fuel
 

On Oct 9, 8:41*am, "A.Boater" wrote:


To me, this is further proof than nobody in this group is a real boater.

LOL! Now, what the heck is that supposed to mean???

Total request for non-ethanol "marine" fuel
 

On 10/9/10 9:34 AM, Tim wrote:
On Oct 9, 8:13 am, Secular wrote:
On 10/9/10 9:04 AM, Tim wrote:



On Oct 9, 7:55 am, Secular wrote:
On 10/9/10 8:44 AM, Tim wrote:

On Oct 9, 7:24 am, Secular wrote:
On 10/8/10 10:12 PM, Tim wrote:

On Oct 8, 8:52 pm, wrote:
Tim wrote:
http://mywebtimes.com/archives/ottaw....php?id=415267

i wish more stations offered non-blended fuel. If there was easier
access for pure fossil fuel, I probably would have second thoughts
about converting my pontoon over to a 4 cycle and ditching the v-4
Johnson.

E15 is OK for newer motors - so they say...

And it possible may be, but mine is a 1977. And I'll probably run it
till it craters, then use up my spare 115 evinrude I have sitting int
he back of my building.

And maybe gas stations should sell leaded fuel to accommodate the owners
of old wreck cars.

--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals

They do! Older cars run fairly well on the un-leaded fuel available
today even on the 15 % ethanol blend.

. But you don't have to have ethanol in every motor fuel.

i don't recall when ethanol became part of the gasoline that is sold
everywhere, but none of the outboards I've owned dating back to the
1990's every had any fuel-related problems, even when 60 gallons of it
sat in the boat over the winter. That list of outboards includes 90, 115
and 135 hp mercs, and 150 and 225 hp yamahas. Maybe it would be easier
for you to buy a decent used outboard made in this century.

--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals

Not really. i seed know reason to payy many thousands of dollars for
an outbaord . any outboard

Is that like my rationale for avoiding at all costs I/O's?

--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals

LOL! could be.



I don't like I/O's for several reasons:

1. more complex drive train than an outboard.
2. can't tip the lower unit completely out of the water.
3. that damned hole in the transom and the rubber gasket.

I don't have any problems with the engines...they're just car or truck
engines.

--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals

Total request for non-ethanol "marine" fuel
 

"Secular Humouresque" wrote in message m...
On 10/9/10 9:34 AM, Tim wrote:
On Oct 9, 8:13 am, Secular wrote:
On 10/9/10 9:04 AM, Tim wrote:



On Oct 9, 7:55 am, Secular wrote:
On 10/9/10 8:44 AM, Tim wrote:

On Oct 9, 7:24 am, Secular wrote:
On 10/8/10 10:12 PM, Tim wrote:

On Oct 8, 8:52 pm, wrote:
Tim wrote:
http://mywebtimes.com/archives/ottaw....php?id=415267

i wish more stations offered non-blended fuel. If there was easier
access for pure fossil fuel, I probably would have second thoughts
about converting my pontoon over to a 4 cycle and ditching the v-4
Johnson.

E15 is OK for newer motors - so they say...

And it possible may be, but mine is a 1977. And I'll probably run it
till it craters, then use up my spare 115 evinrude I have sitting int
he back of my building.

And maybe gas stations should sell leaded fuel to accommodate the owners
of old wreck cars.

--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals

They do! Older cars run fairly well on the un-leaded fuel available
today even on the 15 % ethanol blend.

. But you don't have to have ethanol in every motor fuel.

i don't recall when ethanol became part of the gasoline that is sold
everywhere, but none of the outboards I've owned dating back to the
1990's every had any fuel-related problems, even when 60 gallons of it
sat in the boat over the winter. That list of outboards includes 90, 115
and 135 hp mercs, and 150 and 225 hp yamahas. Maybe it would be easier
for you to buy a decent used outboard made in this century.

--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals

Not really. i seed know reason to payy many thousands of dollars for
an outbaord . any outboard

Is that like my rationale for avoiding at all costs I/O's?

--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals

LOL! could be.



I don't like I/O's for several reasons:

1. more complex drive train than an outboard.
2. can't tip the lower unit completely out of the water.
3. that damned hole in the transom and the rubber gasket.

I don't have any problems with the engines...they're just car or truck
engines.

--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals


Thank you for your opinion. I will file it under the appropriate heading.

--
I'm the real Harry, and I post from a PC or a MAC, as virtually everyone knows.
If a post is attributed to me, and it isn't from a PC or a MAC, it's from an ID
spoofer who hasn't the balls to post with his current ID.

The magnificent Boatless Harry

Total request for non-ethanol "marine" fuel
 

On 10/9/10 11:41 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
In article4677a209-102d-4a3a-b40e-
, says...

On Oct 9, 8:41 am, wrote:


To me, this is further proof than nobody in this group is a real boater.

LOL! Now, what the heck is that supposed to mean???

It means the elitist liberals are trying to Pigeon hole us again...


There's no question you are not a boater.

--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals

Total request for non-ethanol "marine" fuel
 

On 10/9/10 11:51 AM, A.Boater wrote:
On 9-Oct-2010, I am wrote:

It means the elitist liberals are trying to Pigeon hole us again...

Since my comments were aimed primarily at Harry, I really am beginning to
conclude that you truly ARE as stupid as you post.


I've seen nothing to indicate you are someone who goes boating.

--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals

Total request for non-ethanol "marine" fuel
 

On Oct 9, 9:09*am, "A.Boater" wrote:
I thought that was pretty clear.

If you don't personally KNOW that 10% alcohol is a disaster, you aren't
actually USING the boat. An addition of 50% MORE alcohol will be an even
greater disaster.

In the 4 years since MTBE was banned and they stared putting alcohol in
fuel, I have overhauled the carbs on one engine twice and on the larger
boat, was forced to pay to polish the fuel to get the crap out of the tank
before it worked its way into the engine fuel system.

Just the SMELL of the fuel tells you the stuff has a shelf life about equal
to milk.



"If you don't personally KNOW that 10% alcohol is a disaster, you
aren't actually USING the boat. An addition of 50% MORE alcohol will
be an even greater disaster.

Well, I USE my boats, but they have chevy engines in them, they seem
to run on the 89.5 stuff just fine., and I agree that a 50/50 blend is
no really a good nor a practical idea.

And I know the modern stabilizers help the older 2 cycles, but it
seems that the way of the two stroke will probably go the way of the
steam engine.

"Just the SMELL of the fuel tells you the stuff has a shelf life about
equal to milk."

You mean it lasts that long?

Total request for non-ethanol "marine" fuel
 

On 10/9/10 12:14 PM, Tim wrote:
On Oct 9, 9:09 am, wrote:
I thought that was pretty clear.

If you don't personally KNOW that 10% alcohol is a disaster, you aren't
actually USING the boat. An addition of 50% MORE alcohol will be an even
greater disaster.

In the 4 years since MTBE was banned and they stared putting alcohol in
fuel, I have overhauled the carbs on one engine twice and on the larger
boat, was forced to pay to polish the fuel to get the crap out of the tank
before it worked its way into the engine fuel system.

Just the SMELL of the fuel tells you the stuff has a shelf life about equal
to milk.



"If you don't personally KNOW that 10% alcohol is a disaster, you
aren't actually USING the boat. An addition of 50% MORE alcohol will
be an even greater disaster.

Well, I USE my boats, but they have chevy engines in them, they seem
to run on the 89.5 stuff just fine., and I agree that a 50/50 blend is
no really a good nor a practical idea.

And I know the modern stabilizers help the older 2 cycles, but it
seems that the way of the two stroke will probably go the way of the
steam engine.

"Just the SMELL of the fuel tells you the stuff has a shelf life about
equal to milk."

You mean it lasts that long?


Have you tried a good external fuel filter/water separator?
All of my outboards since the 1990's have had these, in addition to any
"under the hood" filter/separators the motors have had.

This spring, after sitting in the tanks of my Parker since November
2009, the 60 gallons of ethanol/gasoline had no trouble starting my
Yamaha start on the first try. It wasn't until two weekends later than I
had burned most of the fuel off and refilled the tank to 100 gallons.

--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals

Total request for non-ethanol "marine" fuel
 

On Oct 9, 9:15*am, Secular Humouresque wrote:
On 10/9/10 9:34 AM, Tim wrote:



On Oct 9, 8:13 am, Secular *wrote:
On 10/9/10 9:04 AM, Tim wrote:

On Oct 9, 7:55 am, Secular * *wrote:
On 10/9/10 8:44 AM, Tim wrote:

On Oct 9, 7:24 am, Secular * * *wrote:
On 10/8/10 10:12 PM, Tim wrote:

On Oct 8, 8:52 pm, * * * *wrote:
Tim wrote:
http://mywebtimes.com/archives/ottaw....php?id=415267

i wish more stations offered non-blended fuel. If there was easier
access for pure fossil fuel, I probably would have second thoughts
about converting my pontoon over to a 4 cycle and ditching the v-4
Johnson.

E15 is OK for newer motors - so they say...

And it possible may be, but mine is a 1977. *And I'll probably run it
till it craters, then use up my spare 115 evinrude I have sitting int
he back of my building.

And maybe gas stations should sell leaded fuel to accommodate the owners
of old wreck cars.

--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals

They do! * Older cars run fairly well on the un-leaded fuel available
today even on the 15 % ethanol blend.

. But you don't have to have ethanol in every motor fuel.

i don't recall when ethanol became part of the gasoline that is sold
everywhere, but none of the outboards I've owned dating back to the
1990's every had any fuel-related problems, even when 60 gallons of it
sat in the boat over the winter. That list of outboards includes 90, 115
and 135 hp mercs, and 150 and 225 hp yamahas. Maybe it would be easier
for you to buy a decent used outboard made in this century.

--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals

Not really. i seed know reason to payy many thousands of dollars for
an outbaord . any outboard

Is that like my rationale for avoiding at all costs I/O's?

--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals

LOL! could be.

I don't like I/O's for several reasons:

1. more complex drive train than an outboard.
2. can't tip the lower unit completely out of the water.
3. that damned hole in the transom and the rubber gasket.

I don't have any problems with the engines...they're just car or truck
engines.

--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals

The deal I have with the I/O is that I can work on them rather well.
Mostly they're an automotive engine . If you can work on a chevy or
ford, you can work on a mercruiser (generally speaking).

Yeah, I agree that they take up room in the cabin area, but that's an
inconvenience I can live with. And hitting something isnt' too good
on the lower end seeing it's locked down with no give.

Concerning lifting the entire leg up well, I don't have an issue with
that because I dont' leave my boat[s] sitting in the water over an
extended period of time. I'm a trailer boater.

They both have their pros and cons, But I suppose the mercruisers is
what I'm most familiar with.

Total request for non-ethanol "marine" fuel
 

On 10/9/10 12:23 PM, A.Boater wrote:
On 9-Oct-2010, Secular wrote:

I've seen nothing to indicate you are someone who goes boating.


That is a fair comment, but the answer is, "No, and you probably won't."

I do share my boating life in moderated venues, where the nut cases are
either controlled or excluded. However, with all of the nuts, trolls,
lunatic trolls, stalkers and other mental defectives at rec.boats that post
names, addresses, phone numbers, maps of residences, make violent threats,
and otherwise flaunt cyber stalking laws, I'm just not going to expose
myself and my family to that risk.

So, I will withhold information that might reveal my identity.

This really isn't a boating discussion newsgroup, what with "all of the
nuts, trolls, lunatic trolls, stalkers and other mental defectives at
rec.boats that post names, addresses, phone numbers, maps of residences,
make violent threats, and otherwise flaunt cyber stalking laws..."

That's why *no* details of our new boat will be posted here.


--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals

Total request for non-ethanol "marine" fuel
 

On Oct 9, 11:21*am, Secular Humouresque wrote:
On 10/9/10 12:14 PM, Tim wrote:



On Oct 9, 9:09 am, *wrote:
I thought that was pretty clear.

If you don't personally KNOW that 10% alcohol is a disaster, you aren't
actually USING the boat. An addition of 50% MORE alcohol will be an even
greater disaster.

In the 4 years since MTBE was banned and they stared putting alcohol in
fuel, I have overhauled the carbs on one engine twice and on the larger
boat, was forced to pay to polish the fuel to get the crap out of the tank
before it worked its way into the engine fuel system.

Just the SMELL of the fuel tells you the stuff has a shelf life about equal
to milk.

"If you don't personally KNOW that 10% alcohol is a disaster, you
aren't actually USING the boat. An addition of 50% MORE alcohol will
be an even *greater disaster.

Well, I USE my boats, but they *have chevy engines in them, they seem
to run on the 89.5 stuff just fine., and I agree that a 50/50 blend is
no really a good nor a practical idea.

* And I know the modern stabilizers *help the older 2 cycles, but it
seems that the way of the two stroke will probably go the way of the
steam engine.

"Just the SMELL of the fuel tells you the stuff has a shelf life about
equal to milk."

You mean it lasts that long?

Have you tried a good external fuel filter/water separator?
All of my outboards since the 1990's have had these, in addition to any
"under the hood" filter/separators the motors have had.

This spring, after sitting in the tanks of my Parker since November
2009, the 60 gallons of ethanol/gasoline had no trouble starting my
Yamaha start on the first try. It wasn't until two weekends later than I
had burned most of the fuel off and refilled the tank to 100 gallons.

--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals

Harry, I have been using 4 strokes for several years now, and only
have one 2 cycle which I've run but dont' really know that much about
it, but I'm learning. I know it pushes the 30' pontoon well, for a 85
hp. but it really likes to drink the fuel considering what I'm used to
with a mercruiser.

I'm up for any suggestions on how to improve the performance, economy
and reliability of the old engine, though.

Total request for non-ethanol "marine" fuel
 

On Oct 9, 11:37*am, "A.Boater" wrote:
On *9-Oct-2010, Tim wrote:

Well, I USE my boats, but they *have chevy engines in them, they seem
to run on the 89.5 stuff just fine., and I agree that a 50/50 blend is
no really a good nor a practical idea.

I think the stuff will burn in any engine, but your power will decrease and
you fuel burn per hour will increase. That is just a physical reality that
alcohol has less heat energy than gasoline.

My point has been that there is water, water unforeseen by the engineers
that designed the marine fuel systems, sitting in and traveling through your
fuel system. Your fuel tank(s), fuel lines, and fuel distribution system is
being damaged. It is just a matter of time before you become painfully aware
of the problem. *There is also the problem that you will experience phase
separation and that you will be burning ONLY on alcohol, if you don't get
only water. Back to the 2-cycle folks. If you experience phase separation,
your 2-cycle oil separates out of the fuel and you have no lubrication.

And that's a bad problem with the E-85 fuel, Even with quality
stabilizers, the oil dosn't blend with the fuel and ends up totally
separating. Even if shaken well, the two properties get a divorce
really quick.
this is off the cuff, but I'd think that the boat mechanics love it
because it's good for business.

Total request for non-ethanol "marine" fuel
 

"Secular Humouresque" wrote in message m...
On 10/9/10 12:23 PM, A.Boater wrote:
On 9-Oct-2010, Secular wrote:

I've seen nothing to indicate you are someone who goes boating.


That is a fair comment, but the answer is, "No, and you probably won't."

I do share my boating life in moderated venues, where the nut cases are
either controlled or excluded. However, with all of the nuts, trolls,
lunatic trolls, stalkers and other mental defectives at rec.boats that post
names, addresses, phone numbers, maps of residences, make violent threats,
and otherwise flaunt cyber stalking laws, I'm just not going to expose
myself and my family to that risk.

So, I will withhold information that might reveal my identity.

This really isn't a boating discussion newsgroup, what with "all of the
nuts, trolls, lunatic trolls, stalkers and other mental defectives at
rec.boats that post names, addresses, phone numbers, maps of residences,
make violent threats, and otherwise flaunt cyber stalking laws..."

That's why *no* details of our new boat will be posted here.


--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals


Pity. I was so looking forward to hearing all about your boat.

--
I'm the real Harry, and I post from a PC or a MAC, as virtually everyone knows.
If a post is attributed to me, and it isn't from a PC or a MAC, it's from an ID
spoofer who hasn't the balls to post with his current ID.

The magnificent Boatless Harry

Total request for non-ethanol "marine" fuel
 

On 10/9/2010 12:51 PM, Harry® wrote:
"Secular wrote in message m...
On 10/9/10 12:23 PM, A.Boater wrote:
On 9-Oct-2010, Secular wrote:

I've seen nothing to indicate you are someone who goes boating.


That is a fair comment, but the answer is, "No, and you probably won't."

I do share my boating life in moderated venues, where the nut cases are
either controlled or excluded. However, with all of the nuts, trolls,
lunatic trolls, stalkers and other mental defectives at rec.boats that post
names, addresses, phone numbers, maps of residences, make violent threats,
and otherwise flaunt cyber stalking laws, I'm just not going to expose
myself and my family to that risk.

So, I will withhold information that might reveal my identity.

This really isn't a boating discussion newsgroup, what with "all of the
nuts, trolls, lunatic trolls, stalkers and other mental defectives at
rec.boats that post names, addresses, phone numbers, maps of residences,
make violent threats, and otherwise flaunt cyber stalking laws..."

That's why *no* details of our new boat will be posted here.


--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals


Pity. I was so looking forward to hearing all about your boat.


The object of your affection, the "real" Harry, doesn't seem to pay much
attention to or maybe even read your posts. That must be frustrating for
you.

I'm heading over to the marina shortly to take out my boat. My guess is
that you don't have a boat.

Total request for non-ethanol "marine" fuel
 

On Oct 9, 11:50*am, Tim wrote:
On Oct 9, 11:37*am, "A.Boater" wrote:



On *9-Oct-2010, Tim wrote:

Well, I USE my boats, but they *have chevy engines in them, they seem
to run on the 89.5 stuff just fine., and I agree that a 50/50 blend is
no really a good nor a practical idea.

I think the stuff will burn in any engine, but your power will decrease and
you fuel burn per hour will increase. That is just a physical reality that
alcohol has less heat energy than gasoline.

My point has been that there is water, water unforeseen by the engineers
that designed the marine fuel systems, sitting in and traveling through your
fuel system. Your fuel tank(s), fuel lines, and fuel distribution system is
being damaged. It is just a matter of time before you become painfully aware
of the problem. *There is also the problem that you will experience phase
separation and that you will be burning ONLY on alcohol, if you don't get
only water. Back to the 2-cycle folks. If you experience phase separation,
your 2-cycle oil separates out of the fuel and you have no lubrication.

And that's a bad problem with the E-85 fuel, Even with quality
stabilizers, the oil dosn't blend with the fuel and ends up totally
separating. Even if shaken well, the two properties get a divorce
really quick.
this is off the cuff, but *I'd think that the *boat mechanics love it
because it's good for business.

pardon me, I should have said the mechanics 'would' love it... not
that they do....

Total request for non-ethanol "marine" fuel
 

On Oct 9, 11:59*am, "A.Boater" wrote:
Given the absurd quantity of spoofing by the self-identified righties that
has been so extreme that it even ran a number of their own ranks away, I'd
say you are making a wise decision. Spirited repartee is one thing, stalking
and threats really does cross a line.

LOL! I didn't know you had to be a 'rightie' to spoof.

"Spirited repartee is one thing, stalking and threats really does
cross a line."

agreed.

Total request for non-ethanol "marine" fuel
 

On 10/9/10 1:35 PM, Tim wrote:
On Oct 9, 11:21 am, Secular wrote:

This spring, after sitting in the tanks of my Parker since November
2009, the 60 gallons of ethanol/gasoline had no trouble starting my
Yamaha start on the first try. It wasn't until two weekends later than I
had burned most of the fuel off and refilled the tank to 100 gallons.

--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals


But are your Yamaha's computerized, fuel injected 4 cycle engines?

Both were.

--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals

Total request for non-ethanol "marine" fuel
 

On Oct 9, 1:09*pm, Secular Humouresque wrote:
On 10/9/10 1:35 PM, Tim wrote:

On Oct 9, 11:21 am, Secular *wrote:

This spring, after sitting in the tanks of my Parker since November
2009, the 60 gallons of ethanol/gasoline had no trouble starting my
Yamaha start on the first try. It wasn't until two weekends later than I
had burned most of the fuel off and refilled the tank to 100 gallons.

--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals

But are your Yamaha's computerized, fuel injected 4 cycle engines?

Both were.

--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals

I'll settle for that. They one reason they had a better chance of
maintaining their reliability when running the standard ethanol.

Total request for non-ethanol "marine" fuel
 

On 10/9/10 1:39 PM, Tim wrote:
On Oct 9, 12:28 pm, wrote:
On 9-Oct-2010, wrote:

On Oct 9, 11:59 am, wrote:
Given the absurd quantity of spoofing by the self-identified righties
that
has been so extreme that it even ran a number of their own ranks away,
I'd
say you are making a wise decision. Spirited repartee is one thing,
stalking
and threats really does cross a line.

LOL! I didn't know you had to be a 'rightie' to spoof.

Tim, you aren't reading for content. Note that I said, "by the
self-identified righties." 95% of the spoofing has been by the rabid far
right. And THAT by THEIR OWN ADMISSION.

Who could forget this gem by FlaJim, when trying to convince Frogwatch to
stay?

"Whoa! We ID spoof to drive the libs and moderates out of here...not a
fellow rightie, especially one as edgy as you are."

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.b...thread/82c5483...

hmmm, I see what you're saying, I dont' get into such because i post
on google and don't use a reader so I'm not really privy to sorting
out who is who and what is what. and I dont' live on here like some so
there's lots of posts/threads I totally miss.

So, maybe I miss a lot, but I didnt' think so.

If driving the "libs and moderates out of here" is the goal as stated by
flajim, it is a goal they haven't achieved.

--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals

Total request for non-ethanol "marine" fuel
 

On Oct 9, 1:14*pm, Secular Humouresque wrote:
On 10/9/10 1:39 PM, Tim wrote:



On Oct 9, 12:28 pm, *wrote:
On *9-Oct-2010, *wrote:

On Oct 9, 11:59 am, *wrote:
Given the absurd quantity of spoofing by the self-identified righties
that
has been so extreme that it even ran a number of their own ranks away,
I'd
say you are making a wise decision. Spirited repartee is one thing,
stalking
and threats really does cross a line.

LOL! I didn't know you had to be a 'rightie' to spoof.

Tim, you aren't reading for content. Note that I said, "by the
self-identified righties." 95% of the spoofing has been by the rabid far
right. And THAT by THEIR OWN ADMISSION.

Who could forget this gem by FlaJim, when trying to convince Frogwatch to
stay?

"Whoa! We ID spoof to drive the libs and moderates out of here...not a
fellow rightie, especially one as edgy as you are."

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.b...thread/82c5483....

hmmm, I see what you're saying, I dont' get into such because i post
on google and don't use a reader so I'm not really privy to sorting
out who is who and what is what. and I dont' live on here like some so
there's lots of posts/threads I totally miss.

So, maybe I miss a lot, but I didnt' *think so.

If driving the "libs and moderates out of here" is the goal as stated by
flajim, it is a goal they haven't achieved.

--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals

and it never will be. Nor the other way around.

But the place can sure get messy.

Total request for non-ethanol "marine" fuel
 

On 10/9/10 2:19 PM, Tim wrote:
On Oct 9, 1:14 pm, Secular wrote:
On 10/9/10 1:39 PM, Tim wrote:



On Oct 9, 12:28 pm, wrote:
On 9-Oct-2010, wrote:

On Oct 9, 11:59 am, wrote:
Given the absurd quantity of spoofing by the self-identified righties
that
has been so extreme that it even ran a number of their own ranks away,
I'd
say you are making a wise decision. Spirited repartee is one thing,
stalking
and threats really does cross a line.

LOL! I didn't know you had to be a 'rightie' to spoof.

Tim, you aren't reading for content. Note that I said, "by the
self-identified righties." 95% of the spoofing has been by the rabid far
right. And THAT by THEIR OWN ADMISSION.

Who could forget this gem by FlaJim, when trying to convince Frogwatch to
stay?

"Whoa! We ID spoof to drive the libs and moderates out of here...not a
fellow rightie, especially one as edgy as you are."

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.b...thread/82c5483...

hmmm, I see what you're saying, I dont' get into such because i post
on google and don't use a reader so I'm not really privy to sorting
out who is who and what is what. and I dont' live on here like some so
there's lots of posts/threads I totally miss.

So, maybe I miss a lot, but I didnt' think so.

If driving the "libs and moderates out of here" is the goal as stated by
flajim, it is a goal they haven't achieved.

--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals

and it never will be. Nor the other way around.

But the place can sure get messy.


Flajim is still here, ID spoofing.

--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals

Total request for non-ethanol "marine" fuel
 

On Oct 9, 1:28*pm, wrote:
On Sat, 09 Oct 2010 08:55:19 -0400, Secular Humouresque



wrote:
On 10/9/10 8:44 AM, Tim wrote:
On Oct 9, 7:24 am, Secular *wrote:
On 10/8/10 10:12 PM, Tim wrote:

On Oct 8, 8:52 pm, * *wrote:
Tim wrote:
http://mywebtimes.com/archives/ottaw....php?id=415267

i wish more stations offered non-blended fuel. If there was easier
access for pure fossil fuel, I probably would have second thoughts
about converting my pontoon over to a 4 cycle and ditching the v-4
Johnson.

E15 is OK for newer motors - so they say...

And it possible may be, but mine is a 1977. *And I'll probably run it
till it craters, then use up my spare 115 evinrude I have sitting int
he back of my building.

And maybe gas stations should sell leaded fuel to accommodate the owners
of old wreck cars.

--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals

They do! * Older cars run fairly well on the un-leaded fuel available
today even on the 15 % ethanol blend.

. But you don't have to have ethanol in every motor fuel.

i don't recall when ethanol became part of the gasoline that is sold
everywhere, but none of the outboards I've owned dating back to the
1990's every had any fuel-related problems, even when 60 gallons of it
sat in the boat over the winter. That list of outboards includes 90, 115
and 135 hp mercs, and 150 and 225 hp yamahas. Maybe it would be easier
for you to buy a decent used outboard made in this century.

The guys over on pontoon boat forum where they really talk about boats
has an ongoing thread about ethanol. The big problem from what I see
is it goes bad faster

Which goes to show that A.Boater hit it right when he said "Just the
SMELL of the fuel tells you the stuff has a shelf life about equal
to milk. "

Total request for non-ethanol "marine" fuel
 

On Sat, 09 Oct 2010 12:26:08 -0400, Secular Humouresque
wrote:

That's why *no* details of our new boat will be posted here.

Then, since you will have nothing to talk about, you should go away.

Total request for non-ethanol "marine" fuel
 

"Tim" wrote in message ...
On Oct 9, 1:14 pm, Secular Humouresque wrote:
On 10/9/10 1:39 PM, Tim wrote:



On Oct 9, 12:28 pm, wrote:
On 9-Oct-2010, wrote:

On Oct 9, 11:59 am, wrote:
Given the absurd quantity of spoofing by the self-identified righties
that
has been so extreme that it even ran a number of their own ranks away,
I'd
say you are making a wise decision. Spirited repartee is one thing,
stalking
and threats really does cross a line.

LOL! I didn't know you had to be a 'rightie' to spoof.

Tim, you aren't reading for content. Note that I said, "by the
self-identified righties." 95% of the spoofing has been by the rabid far
right. And THAT by THEIR OWN ADMISSION.

Who could forget this gem by FlaJim, when trying to convince Frogwatch to
stay?

"Whoa! We ID spoof to drive the libs and moderates out of here...not a
fellow rightie, especially one as edgy as you are."

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.b...thread/82c5483....

hmmm, I see what you're saying, I dont' get into such because i post
on google and don't use a reader so I'm not really privy to sorting
out who is who and what is what. and I dont' live on here like some so
there's lots of posts/threads I totally miss.

So, maybe I miss a lot, but I didnt' think so.

If driving the "libs and moderates out of here" is the goal as stated by
flajim, it is a goal they haven't achieved.

--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals

and it never will be. Nor the other way around.

But the place can sure get messy.


I think A Boater is just giving the pot a little stir. Who would ever dis the moderates, of which I am one.

--
I'm the real Harry, and I post from a PC or a MAC, as virtually everyone knows.
If a post is attributed to me, and it isn't from a PC or a MAC, it's from an ID
spoofer who hasn't the balls to post with his current ID.

The magnificent Boatless Harry

Total request for non-ethanol "marine" fuel
 

"Secular Humouresque" wrote in message m...
On 10/9/10 2:19 PM, Tim wrote:
On Oct 9, 1:14 pm, Secular wrote:
On 10/9/10 1:39 PM, Tim wrote:



On Oct 9, 12:28 pm, wrote:
On 9-Oct-2010, wrote:

On Oct 9, 11:59 am, wrote:
Given the absurd quantity of spoofing by the self-identified righties
that
has been so extreme that it even ran a number of their own ranks away,
I'd
say you are making a wise decision. Spirited repartee is one thing,
stalking
and threats really does cross a line.

LOL! I didn't know you had to be a 'rightie' to spoof.

Tim, you aren't reading for content. Note that I said, "by the
self-identified righties." 95% of the spoofing has been by the rabid far
right. And THAT by THEIR OWN ADMISSION.

Who could forget this gem by FlaJim, when trying to convince Frogwatch to
stay?

"Whoa! We ID spoof to drive the libs and moderates out of here...not a
fellow rightie, especially one as edgy as you are."

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.b...thread/82c5483...

hmmm, I see what you're saying, I dont' get into such because i post
on google and don't use a reader so I'm not really privy to sorting
out who is who and what is what. and I dont' live on here like some so
there's lots of posts/threads I totally miss.

So, maybe I miss a lot, but I didnt' think so.

If driving the "libs and moderates out of here" is the goal as stated by
flajim, it is a goal they haven't achieved.

--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals

and it never will be. Nor the other way around.

But the place can sure get messy.


Flajim is still here, ID spoofing.

--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals

Who cares. One spoofer more or less doesn't matter. Fact is they are driving you batty, and that is a good thing.

--
I'm the real Harry, and I post from a PC or a MAC, as virtually everyone knows.
If a post is attributed to me, and it isn't from a PC or a MAC, it's from an ID
spoofer who hasn't the balls to post with his current ID.

The magnificent Boatless Harry

Total request for non-ethanol "marine" fuel
 

On 10/9/10 3:03 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 09 Oct 2010 12:26:08 -0400, Secular Humouresque
wrote:

That's why *no* details of our new boat will be posted here.

Then, since you will have nothing to talk about, you should go away.


Wax on, wax off, w'hine.

--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals

Total request for non-ethanol "marine" fuel
 

On 10/9/2010 3:30 PM, Harry® wrote:
"Secular wrote in message m...
On 10/9/10 2:19 PM, Tim wrote:
On Oct 9, 1:14 pm, Secular wrote:
On 10/9/10 1:39 PM, Tim wrote:



On Oct 9, 12:28 pm, wrote:
On 9-Oct-2010, wrote:

On Oct 9, 11:59 am, wrote:
Given the absurd quantity of spoofing by the self-identified righties
that
has been so extreme that it even ran a number of their own ranks away,
I'd
say you are making a wise decision. Spirited repartee is one thing,
stalking
and threats really does cross a line.

LOL! I didn't know you had to be a 'rightie' to spoof.

Tim, you aren't reading for content. Note that I said, "by the
self-identified righties." 95% of the spoofing has been by the rabid far
right. And THAT by THEIR OWN ADMISSION.

Who could forget this gem by FlaJim, when trying to convince Frogwatch to
stay?

"Whoa! We ID spoof to drive the libs and moderates out of here...not a
fellow rightie, especially one as edgy as you are."

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.b...thread/82c5483...

hmmm, I see what you're saying, I dont' get into such because i post
on google and don't use a reader so I'm not really privy to sorting
out who is who and what is what. and I dont' live on here like some so
there's lots of posts/threads I totally miss.

So, maybe I miss a lot, but I didnt' think so.

If driving the "libs and moderates out of here" is the goal as stated by
flajim, it is a goal they haven't achieved.

--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals

and it never will be. Nor the other way around.

But the place can sure get messy.


Flajim is still here, ID spoofing.

--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals

Who cares. One spoofer more or less doesn't matter. Fact is they are driving you batty, and that is a good thing.


I suppose you could ask him, but I don't see any evidence of your ID
spoofing, as you term it, driving anyone batty. In fact, you and the
other "ID spoofers" seem to be just about completely ignored by the
object of your affection. If anything, you and "the boys" seem obsessed
about him.

This sort of says everything about you and your boys that needs to be said:

"Whoa! We ID spoof to drive the libs and moderates out of here...not a
fellow rightie, especially one as edgy as you are."

That's a very telling statement.

Total request for non-ethanol "marine" fuel
 

Secular Humouresque wrote:
On 10/9/10 12:14 PM, Tim wrote:
On Oct 9, 9:09 am, wrote:
I thought that was pretty clear.

If you don't personally KNOW that 10% alcohol is a disaster, you aren't
actually USING the boat. An addition of 50% MORE alcohol will be an
even
greater disaster.

In the 4 years since MTBE was banned and they stared putting alcohol in
fuel, I have overhauled the carbs on one engine twice and on the larger
boat, was forced to pay to polish the fuel to get the crap out of
the tank
before it worked its way into the engine fuel system.

Just the SMELL of the fuel tells you the stuff has a shelf life
about equal
to milk.



"If you don't personally KNOW that 10% alcohol is a disaster, you
aren't actually USING the boat. An addition of 50% MORE alcohol will
be an even greater disaster.

Well, I USE my boats, but they have chevy engines in them, they seem
to run on the 89.5 stuff just fine., and I agree that a 50/50 blend is
no really a good nor a practical idea.

And I know the modern stabilizers help the older 2 cycles, but it
seems that the way of the two stroke will probably go the way of the
steam engine.

"Just the SMELL of the fuel tells you the stuff has a shelf life about
equal to milk."

You mean it lasts that long?


Have you tried a good external fuel filter/water separator?
All of my outboards since the 1990's have had these, in addition to
any "under the hood" filter/separators the motors have had.

This spring, after sitting in the tanks of my Parker since November
2009, the 60 gallons of ethanol/gasoline had no trouble starting my
Yamaha start on the first try. It wasn't until two weekends later than
I had burned most of the fuel off and refilled the tank to 100 gallons.

You haven't burned 60 gallons of fuel in a boat in the last ten years,
WAFA.

Total request for non-ethanol "marine" fuel
 

A.Boater wrote:
Given the absurd quantity of spoofing by the self-identified righties that
has been so extreme that it even ran a number of their own ranks away, I'd
say you are making a wise decision. Spirited repartee is one thing, stalking
and threats really does cross a line.

If you learned to quote, we might know WTF you are talking about.