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LG[_6_] October 10th 10 02:11 AM

Total request for non-ethanol "marine" fuel
 
Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 09 Oct 2010 12:26:08 -0400, Secular Humouresque
wrote:


That's why *no* details of our new boat will be posted here.

Then, since you will have nothing to talk about, you should go away.


He suffers from narcissism. His disease forces him to post details that
suit his disorder. Stay tuned...

Wayne.B October 10th 10 03:59 AM

Total request for non-ethanol "marine" fuel
 
On Sat, 09 Oct 2010 21:05:15 -0400, LG wrote:

You haven't burned 60 gallons of fuel in a boat in the last ten years,
WAFA.


He was pretty much limited to what he could siphon from Karen's car
when she wasn't looking.


YukonBound October 10th 10 04:09 AM

Total request for non-ethanol "marine" fuel
 


"LG" wrote in message
...
A.Boater wrote:
Given the absurd quantity of spoofing by the self-identified righties
that
has been so extreme that it even ran a number of their own ranks away,
I'd
say you are making a wise decision. Spirited repartee is one thing,
stalking
and threats really does cross a line.

If you learned to quote, we might know WTF you are talking about.


if you can't keep up... STFU!


Secular Humouresque October 10th 10 01:28 PM

Total request for non-ethanol "marine" fuel
 
On 10/10/10 1:30 AM, I am Tosk wrote:

I dunno, they are starting to make rule changes in the Motorcycle
industry that seem to anticipate more two strokes in the future. There
is a lot of buzz about advances that might make them more fuel
efficient.



Are you planning to mount a future two cycle motorbike engine on that
rotting hulk of a boat of yours?

--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals

Harry® October 10th 10 08:51 PM

Total request for non-ethanol "marine" fuel
 
"Secular Humouresque" wrote in message ...
On 10/10/10 1:30 AM, I am Tosk wrote:

I dunno, they are starting to make rule changes in the Motorcycle
industry that seem to anticipate more two strokes in the future. There
is a lot of buzz about advances that might make them more fuel
efficient.



Are you planning to mount a future two cycle motorbike engine on that
rotting hulk of a boat of yours?

--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals


Good going turd breath. I can see you are trying to improve your image.

--
I'm the real Harry, and I post from a PC or a MAC, as virtually everyone knows.
If a post is attributed to me, and it isn't from a PC or a MAC, it's from an ID
spoofer who hasn't the balls to post with his current ID.

The magnificent Boatless Harry

Jim October 10th 10 09:04 PM

Total request for non-ethanol "marine" fuel
 
On 10/10/2010 3:51 PM, Harry® wrote:
"Secular wrote in message ...
On 10/10/10 1:30 AM, I am Tosk wrote:

I dunno, they are starting to make rule changes in the Motorcycle
industry that seem to anticipate more two strokes in the future. There
is a lot of buzz about advances that might make them more fuel
efficient.



Are you planning to mount a future two cycle motorbike engine on that
rotting hulk of a boat of yours?

--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals


Good going turd breath. I can see you are trying to improve your image.


Your boy Tosk took an on-topic boating thread off-topic with some
undefined nonsense about motorcycles. He deserved to be slammed.

Besides, Tim's request was that Harry stop making political posts. Looks
to me as if he is honoring tim's request. Tim also said if Harry cut
back on the political posts, the ID stealing assholes (like you) would
stop stealing and using the ID's of other posters.

Looks like tim was wrong.

Secular Humouresque October 10th 10 09:27 PM

Total request for non-ethanol "marine" fuel
 
On 10/10/10 4:04 PM, Jim wrote:
On 10/10/2010 3:51 PM, Harry® wrote:
"Secular wrote in message
...
On 10/10/10 1:30 AM, I am Tosk wrote:

I dunno, they are starting to make rule changes in the Motorcycle
industry that seem to anticipate more two strokes in the future. There
is a lot of buzz about advances that might make them more fuel
efficient.


Are you planning to mount a future two cycle motorbike engine on that
rotting hulk of a boat of yours?

--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals


Good going turd breath. I can see you are trying to improve your image.


Your boy Tosk took an on-topic boating thread off-topic with some
undefined nonsense about motorcycles. He deserved to be slammed.

Besides, Tim's request was that Harry stop making political posts. Looks
to me as if he is honoring tim's request. Tim also said if Harry cut
back on the political posts, the ID stealing assholes (like you) would
stop stealing and using the ID's of other posters.

Looks like tim was wrong.



Flushing out those who don't boat and have little or no interest in
boating is the work of the angels.

Tosk has no interest in boating. Neither do the ID spoofers.

I'll be delighted to discuss boats in a brief fashion here. I can do
that without disclosing any of the details of our new boat.

--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals

Tim October 10th 10 10:21 PM

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On Oct 10, 3:04*pm, Jim wrote:
On 10/10/2010 3:51 PM, Harry® wrote:



"Secular *wrote in ...
On 10/10/10 1:30 AM, I am Tosk wrote:


I dunno, they are starting to make rule changes in the Motorcycle
industry that seem to anticipate more two strokes in the future. There
is a lot of buzz about advances that might make them more fuel
efficient.


Are you planning to mount a future two cycle motorbike engine on that
rotting hulk of a boat of yours?


--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals


Good going turd breath. I can see you are trying to improve your image.


Your boy Tosk took an on-topic boating thread off-topic with some
undefined nonsense about motorcycles. He deserved to be slammed.

Besides, Tim's request was that Harry stop making political posts. Looks
to me as if he is honoring tim's request. Tim also said if Harry cut
back on the political posts, the ID stealing assholes (like you) would
stop stealing and using the ID's of other posters.

Looks like tim was wrong.


No, tim wasn't wrong., because tim never made that promise. What tim
said was:

"Tell you what, harry. You quit the political tripe and no guarantees,
but I'd almost wager the ID spoofers would disappear "

That's the second time I've had to re- quote myself.



Secular Humouresque October 10th 10 10:37 PM

Total request for non-ethanol "marine" fuel
 
On 10/10/10 5:21 PM, Tim wrote:
On Oct 10, 3:04 pm, wrote:
On 10/10/2010 3:51 PM, Harry® wrote:



"Secular wrote in ...
On 10/10/10 1:30 AM, I am Tosk wrote:


I dunno, they are starting to make rule changes in the Motorcycle
industry that seem to anticipate more two strokes in the future. There
is a lot of buzz about advances that might make them more fuel
efficient.


Are you planning to mount a future two cycle motorbike engine on that
rotting hulk of a boat of yours?


--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals


Good going turd breath. I can see you are trying to improve your image.


Your boy Tosk took an on-topic boating thread off-topic with some
undefined nonsense about motorcycles. He deserved to be slammed.

Besides, Tim's request was that Harry stop making political posts. Looks
to me as if he is honoring tim's request. Tim also said if Harry cut
back on the political posts, the ID stealing assholes (like you) would
stop stealing and using the ID's of other posters.

Looks like tim was wrong.


No, tim wasn't wrong., because tim never made that promise. What tim
said was:

"Tell you what, harry. You quit the political tripe and no guarantees,
but I'd almost wager the ID spoofers would disappear "

That's the second time I've had to re- quote myself.




Is there "almost money back" with that "almost wager," because, so far,
well, they're still here.



--
I'm not a warlock…I'm…you!

Tim October 11th 10 12:36 AM

Total request for non-ethanol "marine" fuel
 
On Oct 10, 4:37*pm, Secular Humouresque wrote:
On 10/10/10 5:21 PM, Tim wrote:



On Oct 10, 3:04 pm, *wrote:
On 10/10/2010 3:51 PM, Harry® wrote:


"Secular * *wrote in ...
On 10/10/10 1:30 AM, I am Tosk wrote:


I dunno, they are starting to make rule changes in the Motorcycle
industry that seem to anticipate more two strokes in the future. There
is a lot of buzz about advances that might make them more fuel
efficient.


Are you planning to mount a future two cycle motorbike engine on that
rotting hulk of a boat of yours?


--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals


Good going turd breath. I can see you are trying to improve your image.


Your boy Tosk took an on-topic boating thread off-topic with some
undefined nonsense about motorcycles. He deserved to be slammed.


Besides, Tim's request was that Harry stop making political posts. Looks
to me as if he is honoring tim's request. Tim also said if Harry cut
back on the political posts, the ID stealing assholes (like you) would
stop stealing and using the ID's of other posters.


Looks like tim was wrong.


No, tim wasn't wrong., because tim never made that promise. What tim
said was:


"Tell you what, harry. You quit the political tripe and no guarantees,
but I'd almost wager the ID spoofers would disappear "


That's the second time I've had to re- quote myself.


Is there "almost money back" with that "almost wager," because, so far,
well, they're still here.

--
I'm not a warlock…I'm…you!


You're me? Well I guess I can meet myself coming and going...

LOL!

Harry® October 11th 10 01:36 AM

Total request for non-ethanol "marine" fuel
 
"Secular Humouresque" wrote in message m...
On 10/10/10 5:21 PM, Tim wrote:
On Oct 10, 3:04 pm, wrote:
On 10/10/2010 3:51 PM, Harry® wrote:



"Secular wrote in ...
On 10/10/10 1:30 AM, I am Tosk wrote:

I dunno, they are starting to make rule changes in the Motorcycle
industry that seem to anticipate more two strokes in the future. There
is a lot of buzz about advances that might make them more fuel
efficient.

Are you planning to mount a future two cycle motorbike engine on that
rotting hulk of a boat of yours?

--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals

Good going turd breath. I can see you are trying to improve your image.

Your boy Tosk took an on-topic boating thread off-topic with some
undefined nonsense about motorcycles. He deserved to be slammed.

Besides, Tim's request was that Harry stop making political posts. Looks
to me as if he is honoring tim's request. Tim also said if Harry cut
back on the political posts, the ID stealing assholes (like you) would
stop stealing and using the ID's of other posters.

Looks like tim was wrong.


No, tim wasn't wrong., because tim never made that promise. What tim
said was:

"Tell you what, harry. You quit the political tripe and no guarantees,
but I'd almost wager the ID spoofers would disappear "

That's the second time I've had to re- quote myself.




Is there "almost money back" with that "almost wager," because, so far,
well, they're still here.



--
I'm not a warlock…I'm…you!



So far, you haven't reformed, have you. You're playing games and have brought in your sock puppet Jim to help you. You need to try harder. You haven't convinced anyone you are sincere about reforming.

--
I'm the real Harry, and I post from a PC or a MAC, as virtually everyone knows.
If a post is attributed to me, and it isn't from a PC or a MAC, it's from an ID
spoofer who hasn't the balls to post with his current ID.

The magnificent Boatless Harry

Harry® October 11th 10 01:38 AM

Total request for non-ethanol "marine" fuel
 
"Tim" wrote in message ...
On Oct 10, 4:37 pm, Secular Humouresque wrote:
On 10/10/10 5:21 PM, Tim wrote:



On Oct 10, 3:04 pm, wrote:
On 10/10/2010 3:51 PM, Harry® wrote:


"Secular wrote in ...
On 10/10/10 1:30 AM, I am Tosk wrote:


I dunno, they are starting to make rule changes in the Motorcycle
industry that seem to anticipate more two strokes in the future. There
is a lot of buzz about advances that might make them more fuel
efficient.


Are you planning to mount a future two cycle motorbike engine on that
rotting hulk of a boat of yours?


--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals


Good going turd breath. I can see you are trying to improve your image.


Your boy Tosk took an on-topic boating thread off-topic with some
undefined nonsense about motorcycles. He deserved to be slammed.


Besides, Tim's request was that Harry stop making political posts. Looks
to me as if he is honoring tim's request. Tim also said if Harry cut
back on the political posts, the ID stealing assholes (like you) would
stop stealing and using the ID's of other posters.


Looks like tim was wrong.


No, tim wasn't wrong., because tim never made that promise. What tim
said was:


"Tell you what, harry. You quit the political tripe and no guarantees,
but I'd almost wager the ID spoofers would disappear "


That's the second time I've had to re- quote myself.


Is there "almost money back" with that "almost wager," because, so far,
well, they're still here.

--
I'm not a warlock…I'm…you!


You're me? Well I guess I can meet myself coming and going...

LOL!


Krause is trying yo play you. I'm sure you are aware of that fact, Tim.

--
I'm the real Harry, and I post from a PC or a MAC, as virtually everyone knows.
If a post is attributed to me, and it isn't from a PC or a MAC, it's from an ID
spoofer who hasn't the balls to post with his current ID.

The magnificent Boatless Harry

Harry® October 11th 10 12:57 PM

Total request for non-ethanol "marine" fuel
 
"I am Tosk" wrote in message ...
In article d35a13c1-c43c-4976-bfac-109b22397b36
@m1g2000vbh.googlegroups.com, says...

On Oct 10, 3:04 pm, Jim wrote:
On 10/10/2010 3:51 PM, Harry® wrote:



"Secular wrote in ...
On 10/10/10 1:30 AM, I am Tosk wrote:

I dunno, they are starting to make rule changes in the Motorcycle
industry that seem to anticipate more two strokes in the future. There
is a lot of buzz about advances that might make them more fuel
efficient.

Are you planning to mount a future two cycle motorbike engine on that
rotting hulk of a boat of yours?

--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals

Good going turd breath. I can see you are trying to improve your image.

Your boy Tosk took an on-topic boating thread off-topic with some
undefined nonsense about motorcycles. He deserved to be slammed.

Besides, Tim's request was that Harry stop making political posts. Looks
to me as if he is honoring tim's request. Tim also said if Harry cut
back on the political posts, the ID stealing assholes (like you) would
stop stealing and using the ID's of other posters.

Looks like tim was wrong.


No, tim wasn't wrong., because tim never made that promise. What tim
said was:

"Tell you what, harry. You quit the political tripe and no guarantees,
but I'd almost wager the ID spoofers would disappear "

That's the second time I've had to re- quote myself.


Besides, it's the same old same old... Harry ****es everybody off so
they all ignore him, then he starts a couple of "boating posts" and the
three (now down to one) "moderates" here bite and let him infiltrate the
filters again by quoting him... This goes on for a few days until he is
being addressed again on a regular basis, he changes his info to blow by
the filters, and he starts all over again with the bull****...

Really guys, this has been going on, like clockwork for almost a decade,
really? LOL!

--
Can you imagine being the first President since President Carter, to be
compared to President Carter?



How do you suggest we handle the Krause situation?

--
I'm the real Harry, and I post from a PC or a MAC, as virtually everyone knows.
If a post is attributed to me, and it isn't from a PC or a MAC, it's from an ID
spoofer who hasn't the balls to post with his current ID.

The magnificent Boatless Harry

JustWaitAFrekinMinute! October 11th 10 01:07 PM

Total request for non-ethanol "marine" fuel
 
On Oct 11, 7:57*am, Harry® wrote:
"I am Tosk" wrote in l-september.org...





In article d35a13c1-c43c-4976-bfac-109b22397b36
@m1g2000vbh.googlegroups.com, says...


On Oct 10, 3:04 pm, Jim wrote:
On 10/10/2010 3:51 PM, Harry® wrote:


"Secular wrote in ...
On 10/10/10 1:30 AM, I am Tosk wrote:


I dunno, they are starting to make rule changes in the Motorcycle
industry that seem to anticipate more two strokes in the future. There
is a lot of buzz about advances that might make them more fuel
efficient.


Are you planning to mount a future two cycle motorbike engine on that
rotting hulk of a boat of yours?


--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals


Good going turd breath. I can see you are trying to improve your image.


Your boy Tosk took an on-topic boating thread off-topic with some
undefined nonsense about motorcycles. He deserved to be slammed.


Besides, Tim's request was that Harry stop making political posts. Looks
to me as if he is honoring tim's request. Tim also said if Harry cut
back on the political posts, the ID stealing assholes (like you) would
stop stealing and using the ID's of other posters.


Looks like tim was wrong.


No, tim wasn't wrong., because tim never made that promise. What tim
said was:


"Tell you what, harry. You quit the political tripe and no guarantees,
but I'd almost wager the ID spoofers would disappear "


That's the second time I've had to re- quote myself.


Besides, it's the same old same old... Harry ****es everybody off so
they all ignore him, then he starts a couple of "boating posts" and the
three (now down to one) "moderates" here bite and let him infiltrate the
filters again by quoting him... This goes on for a few days until he is
being addressed again on a regular basis, he changes his info to blow by
the filters, and he starts all over again with the bull****...


Really guys, this has been going on, like clockwork for almost a decade,
really? *LOL!


--
Can you imagine being the first President since President Carter, to be
compared to President Carter?


How do you suggest we handle the Krause situation?

--
I'm the real Harry, and I post from a PC or a MAC, as virtually everyone knows.
If a post is attributed to me, and it isn't from a PC or a MAC, it's from an ID
spoofer who hasn't the balls to post with his current ID.

The magnificent Boatless Harry- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Well, if harrie is changing his tactics, it means what you are doing,
is working.. I say, let it ride, the spoofers are kicking his ass..
Most have him/them filtered, and the others just enjoy kicking him
around... Works for me;) Actually I let a couple of the spoofers
through, it's funny to watch him whine second hand...;)

Secular Humouresque October 11th 10 01:10 PM

Total request for non-ethanol "marine" fuel
 
On 10/11/10 8:07 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute! wrote:


Well, if harrie is changing his tactics, it means what you are doing,
is working.. I say, let it ride, the spoofers are kicking his ass..
Most have him/them filtered, and the others just enjoy kicking him
around... Works for me;) Actually I let a couple of the spoofers
through, it's funny to watch him whine second hand...;)



Just think, and I know that is difficult for you...if Loogy were here
"in name," you wouldn't have sole possession of the title of "Dumbest
Poster in Rec.Boats."

Wouldn't that be terrific?



--
I'm not a warlock . . . I'm you!

John H[_2_] October 11th 10 02:49 PM

Total request for non-ethanol "marine" fuel
 
On Fri, 8 Oct 2010 19:12:49 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Oct 8, 8:52*pm, LG wrote:
Tim wrote:
http://mywebtimes.com/archives/ottaw....php?id=415267


i wish more stations offered non-blended fuel. If there was easier
access for pure fossil fuel, I probably would have second thoughts
about converting my pontoon over to a 4 cycle and ditching the v-4
Johnson.


E15 is OK for newer motors - so they say...


And it possible may be, but mine is a 1977. And I'll probably run it
till it craters, then use up my spare 115 evinrude I have sitting int
he back of my building.


Seems like I read something applicable once upon a time, having to do with,
'accepting the things I cannot change'. :)
--
John H

All decisions are the result of binary thinking.

Jim October 11th 10 05:07 PM

Total request for non-ethanol "marine" fuel
 
On 10/10/2010 5:21 PM, Tim wrote:
On Oct 10, 3:04 pm, wrote:
On 10/10/2010 3:51 PM, Harry® wrote:



"Secular wrote in ...
On 10/10/10 1:30 AM, I am Tosk wrote:


I dunno, they are starting to make rule changes in the Motorcycle
industry that seem to anticipate more two strokes in the future. There
is a lot of buzz about advances that might make them more fuel
efficient.


Are you planning to mount a future two cycle motorbike engine on that
rotting hulk of a boat of yours?


--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals


Good going turd breath. I can see you are trying to improve your image.


Your boy Tosk took an on-topic boating thread off-topic with some
undefined nonsense about motorcycles. He deserved to be slammed.

Besides, Tim's request was that Harry stop making political posts. Looks
to me as if he is honoring tim's request. Tim also said if Harry cut
back on the political posts, the ID stealing assholes (like you) would
stop stealing and using the ID's of other posters.

Looks like tim was wrong.


No, tim wasn't wrong., because tim never made that promise. What tim
said was:

"Tell you what, harry. You quit the political tripe and no guarantees,
but I'd almost wager the ID spoofers would disappear "

That's the second time I've had to re- quote myself.



You're lucky that was an "almost wager," because if it were a real
wager, you would have lost. :) Someone else said that the ID spoofers
have nothing else to post and if they stopped "spoofing," they'd fall
silent or something like that. It obviously is true.

LG[_6_] October 12th 10 01:29 AM

Total request for non-ethanol "marine" fuel
 
Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 09 Oct 2010 21:05:15 -0400, wrote:


You haven't burned 60 gallons of fuel in a boat in the last ten years,
WAFA.

He was pretty much limited to what he could siphon from Karen's car
when she wasn't looking.


THAT was funny!

LG[_6_] October 12th 10 01:34 AM

Total request for non-ethanol "marine" fuel
 
YukonBound wrote:


"LG" wrote in message
...
A.Boater wrote:
Given the absurd quantity of spoofing by the self-identified
righties that
has been so extreme that it even ran a number of their own ranks
away, I'd
say you are making a wise decision. Spirited repartee is one thing,
stalking
and threats really does cross a line.

If you learned to quote, we might know WTF you are talking about.


if you can't keep up... STFU!

I don't post here all day long like you, dummy.

Tim October 12th 10 01:23 PM

Total request for non-ethanol "marine" fuel
 
Here's a short article on ethanol ...

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...,3881373.story

I think the comment : "Corn doesn't kill. In fact, corn ethanol is
providing a bridge to the future with American-made biofuels that will
free us from dependence on foreign oil." is a bit stiff, but at
least it's a stride.

Tim October 16th 10 11:01 PM

Total request for non-ethanol "marine" fuel
 
On Oct 12, 12:22*pm, wrote:
On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 05:23:43 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Here's a short article on ethanol ...


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...ng-woes-101210...


I think the comment : "Corn doesn't kill. In fact, corn ethanol is
providing a bridge to the future with American-made biofuels that will
free us from dependence on foreign oil." * is a bit stiff, but at
least it's a stride.


Ethanol is just another farm subsidy. The midwest congressmen will not
be happy until there is corn in everything we buy. It is close now.
It is hard to find any processed food that does not have corn in it *


You're probably right. Grain prices are at about an all-time high now.

With a couple spurts in the comodity trading a few years ago, $5.00+
corn (per bushel) was almost unheard of. Not it's starting to be a
standard it seems.

More on the no E-15

http://www.wtsp.com/news/local/story...150815&catid=8

Lil Abner October 16th 10 11:38 PM

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On 10/16/2010 6:01 PM, Tim wrote:
On Oct 12, 12:22 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 05:23:43 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

Here's a short article on ethanol ...


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...ng-woes-101210...


I think the comment : "Corn doesn't kill. In fact, corn ethanol is
providing a bridge to the future with American-made biofuels that will
free us from dependence on foreign oil." is a bit stiff, but at
least it's a stride.


Ethanol is just another farm subsidy. The midwest congressmen will not
be happy until there is corn in everything we buy. It is close now.
It is hard to find any processed food that does not have corn in it


You're probably right. Grain prices are at about an all-time high now.

With a couple spurts in the comodity trading a few years ago, $5.00+
corn (per bushel) was almost unheard of. Not it's starting to be a
standard it seems.

More on the no E-15

http://www.wtsp.com/news/local/story...150815&catid=8

We had a visit with a couple that farmed a small 1000 acres of mostly
corn for ethanol.
They won't/ can't eat it because of all the poison involved. Some may be
GMO with poison in the corn but I don't know because I didn't pry that much.
I hope the wildlife doesn't eat it.
The Ethanol Corn "Farmers" are ecstatic about legislating their product.
They are spending fortunes trying to strong arm Congress into forcing us
to use fuel with 15% Ethanol.
They must think they have a great chance at getting their way. Last
month we saw many farms knocking down the patches of woods, on their
farms and filling in little pot holes or whatever and leveling in
preparation to increase planting next year apparently.
When Big Ag complains about no profits but is investing in million
dollar machines capable of plowing what seems a five acres a minute or
more well......
Maybe they will level what was Detroit and plant though.


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