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Secular Humoresque October 1st 10 05:21 PM

For my next construction project...
 
I'm thinking of building a new deck, approximately 15' x 25',
approximately 9' above grade.

I have no concerns about structure; I know what to do about that.

I'm considering using the newer "composite lumber" (Trex is one brand
name) for decking, rails, balusters, stairs, et cetera...you know, the
stuff that shows. I'm wondering how well it resists weathering, rot,
checking, splitting, whether it needs any maintenance aside from a good
washing, et cetera.

The last time I built a deck, I used cedar over pressure treated
supports. The cedar was fine, but it did require a coat of transparent
stain every season.

Experiences with "trex" or other similar products?

Thanks.




--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals

Secular Humoresque[_2_] October 1st 10 05:45 PM

For my next construction project...
 
In article ,
says...

I'm thinking of building a new deck, approximately 15' x 25',
approximately 9' above grade.

I have no concerns about structure; I know what to do about that.

I'm considering using the newer "composite lumber" (Trex is one brand
name) for decking, rails, balusters, stairs, et cetera...you know, the
stuff that shows. I'm wondering how well it resists weathering, rot,
checking, splitting, whether it needs any maintenance aside from a good
washing, et cetera.

The last time I built a deck, I used cedar over pressure treated
supports. The cedar was fine, but it did require a coat of transparent
stain every season.

Experiences with "trex" or other similar products?

Thanks.


Spoofer alert! I don't know anything about structures and I certainly am
too fat, lazy and non-talented to build anything.

Secular Humoresque October 1st 10 06:28 PM

For my next construction project...
 
On 10/1/10 1:17 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 12:21:07 -0400, Secular Humoresque
wrote:

I'm thinking of building a new deck, approximately 15' x 25',
approximately 9' above grade.

I have no concerns about structure; I know what to do about that.

I'm considering using the newer "composite lumber" (Trex is one brand
name) for decking, rails, balusters, stairs, et cetera...you know, the
stuff that shows. I'm wondering how well it resists weathering, rot,
checking, splitting, whether it needs any maintenance aside from a good
washing, et cetera.

The last time I built a deck, I used cedar over pressure treated
supports. The cedar was fine, but it did require a coat of transparent
stain every season.

Experiences with "trex" or other similar products?

Thanks.

We have a couple of docks here decked with trex. They are doing fine.
Just watch your spans. It is not as rigid as wood. Use wood for the
structural parts. The supplier will have a span chart for the decking.


I'll be using 2x12's on 12" centers for the joists. Deck will support a
45 PSF live load. I'll be using Lowe's "Top Choice Structural Treated"
lumber for structure.

nom=de=plume[_2_] October 1st 10 06:41 PM

For my next construction project...
 

"Secular Humoresque" wrote in message
m...
I'm thinking of building a new deck, approximately 15' x 25',
approximately 9' above grade.

I have no concerns about structure; I know what to do about that.

I'm considering using the newer "composite lumber" (Trex is one brand
name) for decking, rails, balusters, stairs, et cetera...you know, the
stuff that shows. I'm wondering how well it resists weathering, rot,
checking, splitting, whether it needs any maintenance aside from a good
washing, et cetera.

The last time I built a deck, I used cedar over pressure treated supports.
The cedar was fine, but it did require a coat of transparent stain every
season.

Experiences with "trex" or other similar products?

Thanks.




--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals


My dad used one of those (forget the brand). The results are pretty good as
far as weathering/looks goes (a bit too much on the subdued pink color I
thought, but...), but they tend to expand/contract a lot and can sometimes
pop out of the brackets at the end of long planks. So, his advice to me (I
was considering a deck upgrade, but went with concrete instead) was to try
and use shorter vs. longer sections.



Secular Humoresque October 1st 10 06:45 PM

For my next construction project...
 
On 10/1/10 1:41 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:

"Secular Humoresque" wrote in message
m...
I'm thinking of building a new deck, approximately 15' x 25',
approximately 9' above grade.

I have no concerns about structure; I know what to do about that.

I'm considering using the newer "composite lumber" (Trex is one brand
name) for decking, rails, balusters, stairs, et cetera...you know, the
stuff that shows. I'm wondering how well it resists weathering, rot,
checking, splitting, whether it needs any maintenance aside from a
good washing, et cetera.

The last time I built a deck, I used cedar over pressure treated
supports. The cedar was fine, but it did require a coat of transparent
stain every season.

Experiences with "trex" or other similar products?

Thanks.




--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals


My dad used one of those (forget the brand). The results are pretty good
as far as weathering/looks goes (a bit too much on the subdued pink
color I thought, but...), but they tend to expand/contract a lot and can
sometimes pop out of the brackets at the end of long planks. So, his
advice to me (I was considering a deck upgrade, but went with concrete
instead) was to try and use shorter vs. longer sections.



Thanks! :)

--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals

YukonBound October 1st 10 06:53 PM

For my next construction project...
 


"Secular Humoresque" wrote in message
m...
I'm thinking of building a new deck, approximately 15' x 25',
approximately 9' above grade.

I have no concerns about structure; I know what to do about that.

I'm considering using the newer "composite lumber" (Trex is one brand
name) for decking, rails, balusters, stairs, et cetera...you know, the
stuff that shows. I'm wondering how well it resists weathering, rot,
checking, splitting, whether it needs any maintenance aside from a good
washing, et cetera.

The last time I built a deck, I used cedar over pressure treated supports.
The cedar was fine, but it did require a coat of transparent stain every
season.

Experiences with "trex" or other similar products?

Thanks.



The previous owners of the house next to mine used these people about 8
years ago.
http://novascotia.archadeck.com/local/AboutUs.html
The vinyl deck may have faded a bit but is holding up better than my treated
wood deck.
I have to apply another coat of semi-transparent oil based deck stain this
month.



Harry® October 1st 10 06:55 PM

For my next construction project...
 
"Secular Humoresque" wrote in message m...
I'm thinking of building a new deck, approximately 15' x 25',
approximately 9' above grade.

I have no concerns about structure; I know what to do about that.

I'm considering using the newer "composite lumber" (Trex is one brand
name) for decking, rails, balusters, stairs, et cetera...you know, the
stuff that shows. I'm wondering how well it resists weathering, rot,
checking, splitting, whether it needs any maintenance aside from a good
washing, et cetera.

The last time I built a deck, I used cedar over pressure treated
supports. The cedar was fine, but it did require a coat of transparent
stain every season.

Experiences with "trex" or other similar products?

Thanks.




--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals



It's the product of choice if you aren't concerned by the lack of appearance of real wood. It wood look good with your new French door.

The wood is for Donny to jump on. Snicker!
Harry
"The 'C' students run the world."

Secular Humoresque[_2_] October 1st 10 07:04 PM

For my next construction project...
 
In article ,
says...

On 10/1/10 1:17 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 12:21:07 -0400, Secular Humoresque
wrote:

I'm thinking of building a new deck, approximately 15' x 25',
approximately 9' above grade.

I have no concerns about structure; I know what to do about that.

I'm considering using the newer "composite lumber" (Trex is one brand
name) for decking, rails, balusters, stairs, et cetera...you know, the
stuff that shows. I'm wondering how well it resists weathering, rot,
checking, splitting, whether it needs any maintenance aside from a good
washing, et cetera.

The last time I built a deck, I used cedar over pressure treated
supports. The cedar was fine, but it did require a coat of transparent
stain every season.

Experiences with "trex" or other similar products?

Thanks.

We have a couple of docks here decked with trex. They are doing fine.
Just watch your spans. It is not as rigid as wood. Use wood for the
structural parts. The supplier will have a span chart for the decking.


I'll be using 2x12's on 12" centers for the joists. Deck will support a
45 PSF live load. I'll be using Lowe's "Top Choice Structural Treated"
lumber for structure.


snerk good luck!

Secular Humoresque[_2_] October 1st 10 07:50 PM

For my next construction project...
 
In article ,
says...

On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 13:28:05 -0400, Secular Humoresque
wrote:

On 10/1/10 1:17 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 12:21:07 -0400, Secular Humoresque
wrote:

I'm thinking of building a new deck, approximately 15' x 25',
approximately 9' above grade.

I have no concerns about structure; I know what to do about that.

I'm considering using the newer "composite lumber" (Trex is one brand
name) for decking, rails, balusters, stairs, et cetera...you know, the
stuff that shows. I'm wondering how well it resists weathering, rot,
checking, splitting, whether it needs any maintenance aside from a good
washing, et cetera.

The last time I built a deck, I used cedar over pressure treated
supports. The cedar was fine, but it did require a coat of transparent
stain every season.

Experiences with "trex" or other similar products?

Thanks.
We have a couple of docks here decked with trex. They are doing fine.
Just watch your spans. It is not as rigid as wood. Use wood for the
structural parts. The supplier will have a span chart for the decking.


I'll be using 2x12's on 12" centers for the joists. Deck will support a
45 PSF live load. I'll be using Lowe's "Top Choice Structural Treated"
lumber for structure.


I would go to a marine contractor and get real PT at .80 CCA and not
the green washed ACQ they sell at HD/Lowes. (just don't let your kids
eat it)
Also note that ACQ requires hot dipped galvanized or stainless
hardware.


Let the spoofer go, he knows EVERYTHING!

Secular Humoresque[_2_] October 1st 10 07:51 PM

For my next construction project...
 
In article ,
says...

On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 13:28:05 -0400, Secular Humoresque
wrote:

On 10/1/10 1:17 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 12:21:07 -0400, Secular Humoresque
wrote:

I'm thinking of building a new deck, approximately 15' x 25',
approximately 9' above grade.

I have no concerns about structure; I know what to do about that.

I'm considering using the newer "composite lumber" (Trex is one brand
name) for decking, rails, balusters, stairs, et cetera...you know, the
stuff that shows. I'm wondering how well it resists weathering, rot,
checking, splitting, whether it needs any maintenance aside from a good
washing, et cetera.

The last time I built a deck, I used cedar over pressure treated
supports. The cedar was fine, but it did require a coat of transparent
stain every season.

Experiences with "trex" or other similar products?

Thanks.
We have a couple of docks here decked with trex. They are doing fine.
Just watch your spans. It is not as rigid as wood. Use wood for the
structural parts. The supplier will have a span chart for the decking.


I'll be using 2x12's on 12" centers for the joists. Deck will support a
45 PSF live load. I'll be using Lowe's "Top Choice Structural Treated"
lumber for structure.


I would go to a marine contractor and get real PT at .80 CCA and not
the green washed ACQ they sell at HD/Lowes. (just don't let your kids
eat it)
Also note that ACQ requires hot dipped galvanized or stainless
hardware.


Let the spoofer go at it. 45 PSF.........Haaahaa!!!!

Secular Humoresque October 1st 10 08:26 PM

For my next construction project...
 
On 10/1/10 2:40 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 13:28:05 -0400, Secular Humoresque
wrote:

On 10/1/10 1:17 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 12:21:07 -0400, Secular Humoresque
wrote:

I'm thinking of building a new deck, approximately 15' x 25',
approximately 9' above grade.

I have no concerns about structure; I know what to do about that.

I'm considering using the newer "composite lumber" (Trex is one brand
name) for decking, rails, balusters, stairs, et cetera...you know, the
stuff that shows. I'm wondering how well it resists weathering, rot,
checking, splitting, whether it needs any maintenance aside from a good
washing, et cetera.

The last time I built a deck, I used cedar over pressure treated
supports. The cedar was fine, but it did require a coat of transparent
stain every season.

Experiences with "trex" or other similar products?

Thanks.
We have a couple of docks here decked with trex. They are doing fine.
Just watch your spans. It is not as rigid as wood. Use wood for the
structural parts. The supplier will have a span chart for the decking.


I'll be using 2x12's on 12" centers for the joists. Deck will support a
45 PSF live load. I'll be using Lowe's "Top Choice Structural Treated"
lumber for structure.


I would go to a marine contractor and get real PT at .80 CCA and not
the green washed ACQ they sell at HD/Lowes. (just don't let your kids
eat it)
Also note that ACQ requires hot dipped galvanized or stainless
hardware.



There's an idea... already planned on using stainless.

--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals

Secular Humoresque October 1st 10 08:28 PM

For my next construction project...
 
On 10/1/10 2:45 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 1 Oct 2010 13:55:54 -0400,
wrote:

It's the product of choice if you aren't concerned by the lack of appearance of real wood. It wood look good with your new French door.


We just got a proposal to replace our remaining wood dock and they are
selling us a brown, wood look trex type product. It is "redwood"
color. There is also a tan "natural pine" color.


There are several trex colors. I like the "saddle" color. The ID
spoofing "Harry" likes to knock the projects/possessions of others but
of course he never brings up his, or photos of his.

--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals

Secular Humoresque October 1st 10 08:32 PM

For my next construction project...
 
On 10/1/10 3:26 PM, Secular Humoresque wrote:
On 10/1/10 2:40 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 13:28:05 -0400, Secular Humoresque
wrote:

On 10/1/10 1:17 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 12:21:07 -0400, Secular Humoresque
wrote:

I'm thinking of building a new deck, approximately 15' x 25',
approximately 9' above grade.

I have no concerns about structure; I know what to do about that.

I'm considering using the newer "composite lumber" (Trex is one brand
name) for decking, rails, balusters, stairs, et cetera...you know, the
stuff that shows. I'm wondering how well it resists weathering, rot,
checking, splitting, whether it needs any maintenance aside from a
good
washing, et cetera.

The last time I built a deck, I used cedar over pressure treated
supports. The cedar was fine, but it did require a coat of transparent
stain every season.

Experiences with "trex" or other similar products?

Thanks.
We have a couple of docks here decked with trex. They are doing fine.
Just watch your spans. It is not as rigid as wood. Use wood for the
structural parts. The supplier will have a span chart for the decking.

I'll be using 2x12's on 12" centers for the joists. Deck will support a
45 PSF live load. I'll be using Lowe's "Top Choice Structural Treated"
lumber for structure.


I would go to a marine contractor and get real PT at .80 CCA and not
the green washed ACQ they sell at HD/Lowes. (just don't let your kids
eat it)
Also note that ACQ requires hot dipped galvanized or stainless
hardware.



There's an idea... already planned on using stainless.



Engineer's stress analysis on structure per proposed plan:

Stress Analysis:
Level 1
Component PSF
Joist Deflection 472
Joist Bending 82
Joist Shear 168
Joist Compression 180
Beam Deflection 70
Beam Bending 70
Beam Shear 55
Bolt Shear 69
Post Stability 104

YukonBound October 1st 10 08:57 PM

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"Harry®" wrote in message
...

It's the product of choice if you aren't concerned by the lack of
appearance of real wood. *It wood look good* with your new French door.

The wood is for Donny to jump on. Snicker!
Harry
"The 'C' students run the world."



Say what??
"It wood look good"???


YukonBound October 1st 10 08:59 PM

For my next construction project...
 


"Secular Humoresque" wrote in message
m...

There are several trex colors. I like the "saddle" color. The ID spoofing
"Harry" likes to knock the projects/possessions of others but of course he
never brings up his, or photos of his.



Saddle this, SpooferBoy!



Secular Humoresque October 1st 10 09:01 PM

For my next construction project...
 
On 10/1/10 3:57 PM, YukonBound wrote:


"Harry®" wrote in message
...

It's the product of choice if you aren't concerned by the lack of
appearance of real wood. *It wood look good* with your new French door.

The wood is for Donny to jump on. Snicker!
Harry
"The 'C' students run the world."



Say what??
"It wood look good"???



The ID Spoofing Harry's wife hasn't seen real wood for 20 years.

--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals

Secular Humoresque[_2_] October 1st 10 09:32 PM

For my next construction project...
 
In article ,
says...

"Harry®" wrote in message
...

It's the product of choice if you aren't concerned by the lack of
appearance of real wood. *It wood look good* with your new French door.

The wood is for Donny to jump on. Snicker!
Harry
"The 'C' students run the world."



Say what??
"It wood look good"???


Nice one, my little spelling ferret! Did you know that "Say what" isn't
a sentence?

Secular Humoresque[_2_] October 1st 10 09:33 PM

For my next construction project...
 
In article ,
says...

On 10/1/10 3:57 PM, YukonBound wrote:


"Harry®" wrote in message
...

It's the product of choice if you aren't concerned by the lack of
appearance of real wood. *It wood look good* with your new French door.

The wood is for Donny to jump on. Snicker!
Harry
"The 'C' students run the world."



Say what??
"It wood look good"???



The ID Spoofing Harry's wife hasn't seen real wood for 20 years.


Your wife hasn't seen real wood in 20 years?

Secular Humoresque[_2_] October 1st 10 09:33 PM

For my next construction project...
 
In article ,
says...

"Secular Humoresque" wrote in message
m...

There are several trex colors. I like the "saddle" color. The ID spoofing
"Harry" likes to knock the projects/possessions of others but of course he
never brings up his, or photos of his.



Saddle this, SpooferBoy!


Uh oh, I thought you were over doing that tired, stupid sounding crap
little buddy!


Harry® October 1st 10 09:39 PM

For my next construction project...
 
"Secular Humoresque" wrote in message m...
On 10/1/10 2:45 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 1 Oct 2010 13:55:54 -0400,
wrote:

It's the product of choice if you aren't concerned by the lack of appearance of real wood. It wood look good with your new French door.


We just got a proposal to replace our remaining wood dock and they are
selling us a brown, wood look trex type product. It is "redwood"
color. There is also a tan "natural pine" color.


There are several trex colors. I like the "saddle" color. The ID
spoofing "Harry" likes to knock the projects/possessions of others but
of course he never brings up his, or photos of his.

--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals



I'm not knocking your project. I'm not knocking Trex. It's just that it looks out of place at some quality homes. Some people appreciate the look of nice wood. Unfortunately it requires maintenance; something a lazy slug like you wouldn't be willing to do.
I believe the only possession of yours that I knocked was your boat and how you outfitted it. The boat is a slab sided beast, much like the Bayliner of Skip's you belittled. The steering station is horrible, but maybe that wasn't your doing. That arrangement belongs on a bus, not a boat. The surrey top? Well that's just silly looking. Did you put the pom poms on it? Why in the world do you have such a deep cutout on the transom? I would have thought you could have opted for an engine with a longer leg instead. And then the name of the boat, That's so queer.
Had it been someone else's boat, I would have held my comments back.

Cheers,
Harry
"The 'C' students run the world."

Harry® October 1st 10 09:44 PM

For my next construction project...
 
"YukonBound" wrote in message ...


"Harry®" wrote in message
...

It's the product of choice if you aren't concerned by the lack of
appearance of real wood. *It wood look good* with your new French door.

The wood is for Donny to jump on. Snicker!
Harry
"The 'C' students run the world."



Say what??
"It wood look good"???



Say what yourself. I warned you about it and you still bit.

--
Harry
"The 'C' students run the world."

Harry® October 1st 10 09:46 PM

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"Secular Humoresque" wrote in message m...
On 10/1/10 3:57 PM, YukonBound wrote:


"Harry®" wrote in message
...

It's the product of choice if you aren't concerned by the lack of
appearance of real wood. *It wood look good* with your new French door.

The wood is for Donny to jump on. Snicker!
Harry
"The 'C' students run the world."



Say what??
"It wood look good"???



The ID Spoofing Harry's wife hasn't seen real wood for 20 years.

--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals



Krause's wood is holding his deck up. He has no other use for it.

--
Harry
"The 'C' students run the world."

Califbill October 1st 10 10:00 PM

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wrote in message
...
On Fri, 1 Oct 2010 13:55:54 -0400, Harry®
wrote:

It's the product of choice if you aren't concerned by the lack of
appearance of real wood. It wood look good with your new French door.


We just got a proposal to replace our remaining wood dock and they are
selling us a brown, wood look trex type product. It is "redwood"
color. There is also a tan "natural pine" color.


I have some Trex that has failed. Trex is going to replace it, but not
labor and screws. Takes about $230 of screws last time. They had some bad
plasticizer. The redwood Trex looks phony, as Redwood weathers to grey. I
have the grey and looks good. The east coast has available a Trex type
product with a rock filler and not wood. Saw it on a boating show. May
hold up better.


nom=de=plume[_2_] October 1st 10 10:28 PM

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"Secular Humoresque" wrote in message
m...
On 10/1/10 1:41 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:

"Secular Humoresque" wrote in message
m...
I'm thinking of building a new deck, approximately 15' x 25',
approximately 9' above grade.

I have no concerns about structure; I know what to do about that.

I'm considering using the newer "composite lumber" (Trex is one brand
name) for decking, rails, balusters, stairs, et cetera...you know, the
stuff that shows. I'm wondering how well it resists weathering, rot,
checking, splitting, whether it needs any maintenance aside from a
good washing, et cetera.

The last time I built a deck, I used cedar over pressure treated
supports. The cedar was fine, but it did require a coat of transparent
stain every season.

Experiences with "trex" or other similar products?

Thanks.




--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals


My dad used one of those (forget the brand). The results are pretty good
as far as weathering/looks goes (a bit too much on the subdued pink
color I thought, but...), but they tend to expand/contract a lot and can
sometimes pop out of the brackets at the end of long planks. So, his
advice to me (I was considering a deck upgrade, but went with concrete
instead) was to try and use shorter vs. longer sections.



Thanks! :)

--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals


I can find out the exact name of it if you want...



YukonBound October 1st 10 11:07 PM

For my next construction project...
 


"Secular Humoresque" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

"Secular Humoresque" wrote in message
m...

There are several trex colors. I like the "saddle" color. The ID
spoofing
"Harry" likes to knock the projects/possessions of others but of course
he
never brings up his, or photos of his.



Saddle this, SpooferBoy!


Uh oh, I thought you were over doing that tired, stupid sounding crap
little buddy!


Naw... it's aimed at a "tired, stupid" doper.


LG[_5_] October 2nd 10 01:26 AM

For my next construction project...
 
Secular Humoresque wrote:
I'm thinking of building a new deck, approximately 15' x 25',
approximately 9' above grade.

I have no concerns about structure; I know what to do about that.

I'm considering using the newer "composite lumber" (Trex is one brand
name) for decking, rails, balusters, stairs, et cetera...you know, the
stuff that shows. I'm wondering how well it resists weathering, rot,
checking, splitting, whether it needs any maintenance aside from a
good washing, et cetera.

The last time I built a deck, I used cedar over pressure treated
supports. The cedar was fine, but it did require a coat of transparent
stain every season.

Experiences with "trex" or other similar products?

Thanks.




A man with your means would use Ipe'. There is no substitute.



LG[_5_] October 2nd 10 01:27 AM

For my next construction project...
 
Secular Humoresque wrote:
I'm thinking of building a new deck, approximately 15' x 25',
approximately 9' above grade.

I have no concerns about structure; I know what to do about that.

I'm considering using the newer "composite lumber" (Trex is one brand
name) for decking, rails, balusters, stairs, et cetera...you know, the
stuff that shows. I'm wondering how well it resists weathering, rot,
checking, splitting, whether it needs any maintenance aside from a
good washing, et cetera.

The last time I built a deck, I used cedar over pressure treated
supports. The cedar was fine, but it did require a coat of transparent
stain every season.

Experiences with "trex" or other similar products?

Thanks.




Did you try Google for opinions?

LG[_5_] October 2nd 10 01:32 AM

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Secular Humoresque wrote:
On 10/1/10 1:17 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 12:21:07 -0400, Secular Humoresque
wrote:

I'm thinking of building a new deck, approximately 15' x 25',
approximately 9' above grade.

I have no concerns about structure; I know what to do about that.

I'm considering using the newer "composite lumber" (Trex is one brand
name) for decking, rails, balusters, stairs, et cetera...you know, the
stuff that shows. I'm wondering how well it resists weathering, rot,
checking, splitting, whether it needs any maintenance aside from a good
washing, et cetera.

The last time I built a deck, I used cedar over pressure treated
supports. The cedar was fine, but it did require a coat of transparent
stain every season.

Experiences with "trex" or other similar products?

Thanks.

We have a couple of docks here decked with trex. They are doing fine.
Just watch your spans. It is not as rigid as wood. Use wood for the
structural parts. The supplier will have a span chart for the decking.


I'll be using 2x12's on 12" centers for the joists. Deck will support
a 45 PSF live load. I'll be using Lowe's "Top Choice Structural
Treated" lumber for structure.

You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. 12" centers for a
15' span of 2X12's? You may be a fat-ass but 2X10's 16" OC will carry
you and Don. The 45PSF is bull****, too.

LG[_5_] October 2nd 10 01:35 AM

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wrote:
On Fri, 1 Oct 2010 13:55:54 -0400,
wrote:


It's the product of choice if you aren't concerned by the lack of appearance of real wood. It wood look good with your new French door.

We just got a proposal to replace our remaining wood dock and they are
selling us a brown, wood look trex type product. It is "redwood"
color. There is also a tan "natural pine" color.

It's about time they came up with something other than green. I would
bet it weathers to gray anyway...

LG[_5_] October 2nd 10 01:36 AM

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Secular Humoresque wrote:
On 10/1/10 2:40 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 13:28:05 -0400, Secular Humoresque
wrote:

On 10/1/10 1:17 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 12:21:07 -0400, Secular Humoresque
wrote:

I'm thinking of building a new deck, approximately 15' x 25',
approximately 9' above grade.

I have no concerns about structure; I know what to do about that.

I'm considering using the newer "composite lumber" (Trex is one brand
name) for decking, rails, balusters, stairs, et cetera...you know,
the
stuff that shows. I'm wondering how well it resists weathering, rot,
checking, splitting, whether it needs any maintenance aside from a
good
washing, et cetera.

The last time I built a deck, I used cedar over pressure treated
supports. The cedar was fine, but it did require a coat of
transparent
stain every season.

Experiences with "trex" or other similar products?

Thanks.
We have a couple of docks here decked with trex. They are doing fine.
Just watch your spans. It is not as rigid as wood. Use wood for the
structural parts. The supplier will have a span chart for the decking.

I'll be using 2x12's on 12" centers for the joists. Deck will support a
45 PSF live load. I'll be using Lowe's "Top Choice Structural Treated"
lumber for structure.


I would go to a marine contractor and get real PT at .80 CCA and not
the green washed ACQ they sell at HD/Lowes. (just don't let your kids
eat it)
Also note that ACQ requires hot dipped galvanized or stainless
hardware.



There's an idea... already planned on using stainless.

You can't afford it.

LG[_5_] October 2nd 10 01:37 AM

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YukonBound wrote:


"Harry®" wrote in message
...

It's the product of choice if you aren't concerned by the lack of
appearance of real wood. *It wood look good* with your new French door.

The wood is for Donny to jump on. Snicker!
Harry
"The 'C' students run the world."



Say what??
"It wood look good"???

Say what?

jps October 2nd 10 02:14 AM

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On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 16:01:45 -0400, Secular Humoresque
wrote:

On 10/1/10 3:57 PM, YukonBound wrote:


"Harry®" wrote in message
...

It's the product of choice if you aren't concerned by the lack of
appearance of real wood. *It wood look good* with your new French door.

The wood is for Donny to jump on. Snicker!
Harry
"The 'C' students run the world."



Say what??
"It wood look good"???



The ID Spoofing Harry's wife hasn't seen real wood for 20 years.


That's how long they've been together.

jps October 2nd 10 02:18 AM

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On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 12:21:07 -0400, Secular Humoresque
wrote:

I'm thinking of building a new deck, approximately 15' x 25',
approximately 9' above grade.

I have no concerns about structure; I know what to do about that.

I'm considering using the newer "composite lumber" (Trex is one brand
name) for decking, rails, balusters, stairs, et cetera...you know, the
stuff that shows. I'm wondering how well it resists weathering, rot,
checking, splitting, whether it needs any maintenance aside from a good
washing, et cetera.

The last time I built a deck, I used cedar over pressure treated
supports. The cedar was fine, but it did require a coat of transparent
stain every season.

Experiences with "trex" or other similar products?

Thanks.


I don't like the look of trex and it's expensive. I built a deck
using 2x4 sunwood (treated) 15 years ago and it's doing great.
Powerwash and oil once a year. I've had to replace a couple of
lengths over the years but very little rotting. It's 6 feet off the
ground and, as you might imagine, wet a lot.

LG[_5_] October 2nd 10 02:29 AM

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jps wrote:
On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 12:21:07 -0400, Secular Humoresque
wrote:


I'm thinking of building a new deck, approximately 15' x 25',
approximately 9' above grade.

I have no concerns about structure; I know what to do about that.

I'm considering using the newer "composite lumber" (Trex is one brand
name) for decking, rails, balusters, stairs, et cetera...you know, the
stuff that shows. I'm wondering how well it resists weathering, rot,
checking, splitting, whether it needs any maintenance aside from a good
washing, et cetera.

The last time I built a deck, I used cedar over pressure treated
supports. The cedar was fine, but it did require a coat of transparent
stain every season.

Experiences with "trex" or other similar products?

Thanks.

I don't like the look of trex and it's expensive. I built a deck
using 2x4 sunwood (treated) 15 years ago and it's doing great.
Powerwash and oil once a year. I've had to replace a couple of
lengths over the years but very little rotting. It's 6 feet off the
ground and, as you might imagine, wet a lot.

6" wide boards are customary for wood/composite decks.

*e#c October 2nd 10 03:01 AM

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On Oct 1, 12:21*pm, Secular Humoresque wrote:
I'm thinking of building a new deck, approximately 15' x 25',
approximately 9' above grade.

I have no concerns about structure; I know what to do about that.

I'm considering using the newer "composite lumber" (Trex is one brand
name) for decking, rails, balusters, stairs, et cetera...you know, the
stuff that shows. I'm wondering how well it resists weathering, rot,
checking, splitting, whether it needs any maintenance aside from a good
washing, et cetera.

The last time I built a deck, I used cedar over pressure treated
supports. The cedar was fine, but it did require a coat of transparent
stain every season.

Experiences with "trex" or other similar products?

Thanks.

--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals


Is this to tie your Boat to??? If not, **** off.

*e#c October 2nd 10 04:10 AM

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On Oct 1, 8:32*pm, LG wrote:
Secular Humoresque wrote:
On 10/1/10 1:17 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 12:21:07 -0400, Secular Humoresque
*wrote:


I'm thinking of building a new deck, approximately 15' x 25',
approximately 9' above grade.


I have no concerns about structure; I know what to do about that.


I'm considering using the newer "composite lumber" (Trex is one brand
name) for decking, rails, balusters, stairs, et cetera...you know, the
stuff that shows. I'm wondering how well it resists weathering, rot,
checking, splitting, whether it needs any maintenance aside from a good
washing, et cetera.


The last time I built a deck, I used cedar over pressure treated
supports. The cedar was fine, but it did require a coat of transparent
stain every season.


Experiences with "trex" or other similar products?


Thanks.
We have a couple of docks here decked with trex. They are doing fine.
Just watch your spans. It is not as rigid as wood. Use wood for the
structural parts. The supplier will have a span chart for the decking.


I'll be using 2x12's on 12" centers for the joists. Deck will support
a 45 PSF live load. I'll be using Lowe's "Top Choice Structural
Treated" lumber for structure.


You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. *12" centers for a
15' span of 2X12's? *You may be a fat-ass but 2X10's 16" OC will carry
you and Don. *The 45PSF is bull****, too.


Our own " counter boy " Kreuger here would know. You all know him,
he's the one under a womans thumb. Too stupid to do any management,
just a grunt Counter Boy, in Pompano Florida.

He's also the "Head Toilet Stall Maintainer " as well. It's been his
only promotion in 5 years.

Kreuger and the Panty Liner Ingersoll would make a good team. Kreuger
would design the stairs, and build them. Ingersoll would test the
stairwells " in his famous fashion ".LMAO !!!!!!

jps October 2nd 10 09:09 AM

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On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 21:29:51 -0400, LG wrote:

jps wrote:
On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 12:21:07 -0400, Secular Humoresque
wrote:


I'm thinking of building a new deck, approximately 15' x 25',
approximately 9' above grade.

I have no concerns about structure; I know what to do about that.

I'm considering using the newer "composite lumber" (Trex is one brand
name) for decking, rails, balusters, stairs, et cetera...you know, the
stuff that shows. I'm wondering how well it resists weathering, rot,
checking, splitting, whether it needs any maintenance aside from a good
washing, et cetera.

The last time I built a deck, I used cedar over pressure treated
supports. The cedar was fine, but it did require a coat of transparent
stain every season.

Experiences with "trex" or other similar products?

Thanks.

I don't like the look of trex and it's expensive. I built a deck
using 2x4 sunwood (treated) 15 years ago and it's doing great.
Powerwash and oil once a year. I've had to replace a couple of
lengths over the years but very little rotting. It's 6 feet off the
ground and, as you might imagine, wet a lot.

6" wide boards are customary for wood/composite decks.


Maybe in your part of the country.

YukonBound October 2nd 10 01:55 PM

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"*e#c" wrote in message
...
On Oct 1, 8:32 pm, LG wrote:
Secular Humoresque wrote:
On 10/1/10 1:17 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 12:21:07 -0400, Secular Humoresque
wrote:


I'm thinking of building a new deck, approximately 15' x 25',
approximately 9' above grade.


I have no concerns about structure; I know what to do about that.


I'm considering using the newer "composite lumber" (Trex is one brand
name) for decking, rails, balusters, stairs, et cetera...you know,
the
stuff that shows. I'm wondering how well it resists weathering, rot,
checking, splitting, whether it needs any maintenance aside from a
good
washing, et cetera.


The last time I built a deck, I used cedar over pressure treated
supports. The cedar was fine, but it did require a coat of
transparent
stain every season.


Experiences with "trex" or other similar products?


Thanks.
We have a couple of docks here decked with trex. They are doing fine.
Just watch your spans. It is not as rigid as wood. Use wood for the
structural parts. The supplier will have a span chart for the decking.


I'll be using 2x12's on 12" centers for the joists. Deck will support
a 45 PSF live load. I'll be using Lowe's "Top Choice Structural
Treated" lumber for structure.


You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. 12" centers for a
15' span of 2X12's? You may be a fat-ass but 2X10's 16" OC will carry
you and Don. The 45PSF is bull****, too.


Our own " counter boy " Kreuger here would know. You all know him,
he's the one under a womans thumb. Too stupid to do any management,
just a grunt Counter Boy, in Pompano Florida.

He's also the "Head Toilet Stall Maintainer " as well. It's been his
only promotion in 5 years.

Kreuger and the Panty Liner Ingersoll would make a good team. Kreuger
would design the stairs, and build them. Ingersoll would test the
stairwells " in his famous fashion ".LMAO !!!!!!


Good idea for a comedy act.
Ditzy Dan would shoddily design & build staircases with the tools he can
sneak out of Elite Contractor Supply and the Freak would then be thrown down
same.
The question would be... what would last longer, Ditzy's poorly constructed
staircase or The Freaks head.


Califbill October 2nd 10 07:00 PM

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"jps" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 12:21:07 -0400, Secular Humoresque
wrote:

I'm thinking of building a new deck, approximately 15' x 25',
approximately 9' above grade.

I have no concerns about structure; I know what to do about that.

I'm considering using the newer "composite lumber" (Trex is one brand
name) for decking, rails, balusters, stairs, et cetera...you know, the
stuff that shows. I'm wondering how well it resists weathering, rot,
checking, splitting, whether it needs any maintenance aside from a good
washing, et cetera.

The last time I built a deck, I used cedar over pressure treated
supports. The cedar was fine, but it did require a coat of transparent
stain every season.

Experiences with "trex" or other similar products?

Thanks.


I don't like the look of trex and it's expensive. I built a deck
using 2x4 sunwood (treated) 15 years ago and it's doing great.
Powerwash and oil once a year. I've had to replace a couple of
lengths over the years but very little rotting. It's 6 feet off the
ground and, as you might imagine, wet a lot.


Treated in those days was arsenic compounds, not really a good surface to
walk on. And oiling it every year, is extra work, and then when kids crawl
on it, they get all dirty and black from the dirt the oil attracted. I had
a redwood deck before the Trex and it caused any kid or grandkid to become
filthy.


Harry® October 2nd 10 07:12 PM

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"Califbill" wrote in message m...


"jps" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 12:21:07 -0400, Secular Humoresque
wrote:

I'm thinking of building a new deck, approximately 15' x 25',
approximately 9' above grade.

I have no concerns about structure; I know what to do about that.

I'm considering using the newer "composite lumber" (Trex is one brand
name) for decking, rails, balusters, stairs, et cetera...you know, the
stuff that shows. I'm wondering how well it resists weathering, rot,
checking, splitting, whether it needs any maintenance aside from a good
washing, et cetera.

The last time I built a deck, I used cedar over pressure treated
supports. The cedar was fine, but it did require a coat of transparent
stain every season.

Experiences with "trex" or other similar products?

Thanks.


I don't like the look of trex and it's expensive. I built a deck
using 2x4 sunwood (treated) 15 years ago and it's doing great.
Powerwash and oil once a year. I've had to replace a couple of
lengths over the years but very little rotting. It's 6 feet off the
ground and, as you might imagine, wet a lot.


Treated in those days was arsenic compounds, not really a good surface to
walk on. And oiling it every year, is extra work, and then when kids crawl
on it, they get all dirty and black from the dirt the oil attracted. I had
a redwood deck before the Trex and it caused any kid or grandkid to become
filthy.


Black and slimy is apparently the look he is going for.

--
Harry
"The 'C' students run the world."


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