On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 02:02:40 -0400, wrote:



The issue is not monetary policy, it is a decline in our capacity to
produce things we can sell the world.

and one of the biggest factors in this was the destruction of unions.
a recent series of articles in 'slate' showed that countries with
strong unions also have strong manufacturing bases. the right
destroyed the unions in this country and, bye bye manufacturing

On Oct 1, 3:59*am, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 02:02:40 -0400, wrote:

The issue is not monetary policy, it is a decline in our capacity to
produce things we can sell the world.

and one of the biggest factors in this was the destruction of unions.
a recent series of articles in 'slate' showed that countries with
strong unions also have strong manufacturing bases. the right
destroyed the unions in this country and, bye bye manufacturing

You're using backward logic. Actually, more manufacturing brings more
unions. Less manufacturing = less unions. Unions priced themselves
out of the market, and people like you killed manufacturing by buying
cheap chinese-made battery chargers at walmart. You killed the unions
with your purchasing decisions.

"Jack" wrote in message
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On Oct 1, 3:59 am, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 02:02:40 -0400, wrote:

The issue is not monetary policy, it is a decline in our capacity to
produce things we can sell the world.

and one of the biggest factors in this was the destruction of unions.
a recent series of articles in 'slate' showed that countries with
strong unions also have strong manufacturing bases. the right
destroyed the unions in this country and, bye bye manufacturing

You're using backward logic. Actually, more manufacturing brings more
unions. Less manufacturing = less unions. Unions priced themselves
out of the market, and people like you killed manufacturing by buying
cheap chinese-made battery chargers at walmart. You killed the unions
with your purchasing decisions.

Sure.. you're right, except for the root cause of union creation... BAD
MANAGEMENT.

On 10/1/10 1:34 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:

"Jack" wrote in message
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On Oct 1, 3:59 am, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 02:02:40 -0400, wrote:

The issue is not monetary policy, it is a decline in our capacity to
produce things we can sell the world.

and one of the biggest factors in this was the destruction of unions.
a recent series of articles in 'slate' showed that countries with
strong unions also have strong manufacturing bases. the right
destroyed the unions in this country and, bye bye manufacturing

You're using backward logic. Actually, more manufacturing brings more
unions. Less manufacturing = less unions. Unions priced themselves
out of the market, and people like you killed manufacturing by buying
cheap chinese-made battery chargers at walmart. You killed the unions
with your purchasing decisions.

Sure.. you're right, except for the root cause of union creation... BAD
MANAGEMENT.




Manufacturers left the USA not because they weren't making profit...they
simply did not think they were making enough profit. Greed took over,
big time.

Prices for most consumer items are far higher than they ever were when
they were made in the USA by unionized workforces and labor charges in
the Pacific Rim are not much better than slave labor rates.

You figure out the rest.


--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals

"Secular Humoresque" wrote in message
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On 10/1/10 1:34 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:

"Jack" wrote in message
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On Oct 1, 3:59 am, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 02:02:40 -0400, wrote:

The issue is not monetary policy, it is a decline in our capacity to
produce things we can sell the world.

and one of the biggest factors in this was the destruction of unions.
a recent series of articles in 'slate' showed that countries with
strong unions also have strong manufacturing bases. the right
destroyed the unions in this country and, bye bye manufacturing

You're using backward logic. Actually, more manufacturing brings more
unions. Less manufacturing = less unions. Unions priced themselves
out of the market, and people like you killed manufacturing by buying
cheap chinese-made battery chargers at walmart. You killed the unions
with your purchasing decisions.

Sure.. you're right, except for the root cause of union creation... BAD
MANAGEMENT.




Manufacturers left the USA not because they weren't making profit...they
simply did not think they were making enough profit. Greed took over, big
time.

Prices for most consumer items are far higher than they ever were when
they were made in the USA by unionized workforces and labor charges in the
Pacific Rim are not much better than slave labor rates.

You figure out the rest.


--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals

I guess that would mean it was ~good~ management lol

"Secular Humoresque" wrote in message
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On 10/1/10 1:34 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:

"Jack" wrote in message
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On Oct 1, 3:59 am, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 02:02:40 -0400, wrote:

The issue is not monetary policy, it is a decline in our capacity to
produce things we can sell the world.

and one of the biggest factors in this was the destruction of unions.
a recent series of articles in 'slate' showed that countries with
strong unions also have strong manufacturing bases. the right
destroyed the unions in this country and, bye bye manufacturing

You're using backward logic. Actually, more manufacturing brings more
unions. Less manufacturing = less unions. Unions priced themselves
out of the market, and people like you killed manufacturing by buying
cheap chinese-made battery chargers at walmart. You killed the unions
with your purchasing decisions.

Sure.. you're right, except for the root cause of union creation... BAD
MANAGEMENT.




Manufacturers left the USA not because they weren't making profit...they
simply did not think they were making enough profit. Greed took over, big
time.

Prices for most consumer items are far higher than they ever were when
they were made in the USA by unionized workforces and labor charges in the
Pacific Rim are not much better than slave labor rates.

You figure out the rest.


Yup.. it's the importers... buying cheap & selling high.

In article ,
says...

"Secular Humoresque" wrote in message
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On 10/1/10 1:34 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:

"Jack" wrote in message
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On Oct 1, 3:59 am, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 02:02:40 -0400, wrote:

The issue is not monetary policy, it is a decline in our capacity to
produce things we can sell the world.

and one of the biggest factors in this was the destruction of unions.
a recent series of articles in 'slate' showed that countries with
strong unions also have strong manufacturing bases. the right
destroyed the unions in this country and, bye bye manufacturing

You're using backward logic. Actually, more manufacturing brings more
unions. Less manufacturing = less unions. Unions priced themselves
out of the market, and people like you killed manufacturing by buying
cheap chinese-made battery chargers at walmart. You killed the unions
with your purchasing decisions.

Sure.. you're right, except for the root cause of union creation... BAD
MANAGEMENT.




Manufacturers left the USA not because they weren't making profit...they
simply did not think they were making enough profit. Greed took over, big
time.

Prices for most consumer items are far higher than they ever were when
they were made in the USA by unionized workforces and labor charges in the
Pacific Rim are not much better than slave labor rates.

You figure out the rest.


Yup.. it's the importers... buying cheap & selling high.

Yeah, who do those assholes think they are, actually wanting to make a
PROFIT?

YukonBound wrote:


"Secular Humoresque" wrote in message
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On 10/1/10 1:34 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:

"Jack" wrote in message
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On Oct 1, 3:59 am, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 02:02:40 -0400, wrote:

The issue is not monetary policy, it is a decline in our capacity to
produce things we can sell the world.

and one of the biggest factors in this was the destruction of unions.
a recent series of articles in 'slate' showed that countries with
strong unions also have strong manufacturing bases. the right
destroyed the unions in this country and, bye bye manufacturing

You're using backward logic. Actually, more manufacturing brings more
unions. Less manufacturing = less unions. Unions priced themselves
out of the market, and people like you killed manufacturing by buying
cheap chinese-made battery chargers at walmart. You killed the unions
with your purchasing decisions.

Sure.. you're right, except for the root cause of union creation... BAD
MANAGEMENT.




Manufacturers left the USA not because they weren't making
profit...they simply did not think they were making enough profit.
Greed took over, big time.

Prices for most consumer items are far higher than they ever were
when they were made in the USA by unionized workforces and labor
charges in the Pacific Rim are not much better than slave labor rates.

You figure out the rest.


Yup.. it's the importers... buying cheap & selling high.
Say what? Do you read before you post, dummy?

"Jack" wrote in message ...
On Oct 1, 3:59 am, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 02:02:40 -0400, wrote:

The issue is not monetary policy, it is a decline in our capacity to
produce things we can sell the world.

and one of the biggest factors in this was the destruction of unions.
a recent series of articles in 'slate' showed that countries with
strong unions also have strong manufacturing bases. the right
destroyed the unions in this country and, bye bye manufacturing

You're using backward logic. Actually, more manufacturing brings more
unions. Less manufacturing = less unions. Unions priced themselves
out of the market, and people like you killed manufacturing by buying
cheap chinese-made battery chargers at walmart. You killed the unions
with your purchasing decisions.


One way or another unions had to go. They became too powerful and greedy to allow on shore manufacturing to compete in the world market.

--
Harry
"The 'C' students run the world."

On Fri, 1 Oct 2010 09:22:48 -0700 (PDT), Jack
wrote:

On Oct 1, 3:59*am, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 02:02:40 -0400, wrote:

The issue is not monetary policy, it is a decline in our capacity to
produce things we can sell the world.

and one of the biggest factors in this was the destruction of unions.
a recent series of articles in 'slate' showed that countries with
strong unions also have strong manufacturing bases. the right
destroyed the unions in this country and, bye bye manufacturing

You're using backward logic. Actually, more manufacturing brings more
unions.

nope. not if you can intimidate workers. and america has given carte
blanche to companies to do exactly this. there is no penalty for
harassment, intimidation, or even firing union organizers

Less manufacturing = less unions. Unions priced themselves
out of the market,

wrong. germany, sweden and france all have good manufacturing bases
and have strong unions

right wingers WANT people to think unions are bad, but the EVIDENCE
shows othewise

and people like you killed manufacturing by buying
cheap chinese-made battery chargers at walmart. You killed the unions
with your purchasing decisions.

nope. you killed them when you allowed the right to pass legislation
destroying unions