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On 9/21/10 12:27 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:

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On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 10:37:45 -0400, "Harry ?"
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On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 20:03:26 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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While it's probably true that no trigger lock is 100% foolproof,
it's also
true that most criminals who want to use a gun aren't bright
enough to do
the disassembly, etc., to get it to work.

That would be a bad assumption. Every criminal on the street may not
know how to take a gun apart and fix it but it really only takes a
few
to turn useless "locked" guns into an unlocked ones and sell it.
These
are the same ones who know how to unlock cell phones, make credit
card
skimmers and build a very good silencer from a half dozen .5l water
bottles or a piece of PVC pipe and a hand full of milk bottle caps.

The biggest problem with engineers is they assume the person
defeating
their next big thing will have to work as hard and defeat it the same
way they built it. They get embarrassed when a very simple trick gets
around a very complicated device.
Just think about that high tech bicycle lock that you could open with
the barrel of a BIC pen. Most locks can be picked with a paper clip
and something to put tension on the lock (Ball point pen ?) Kids
learn how to do this in elementary or middle school these days. I
didn't learn until my sophomore year of high school. ;-)

You just pretty much confirmed it that it is a valid assumption.
You're
claiming equivalency of high tech kids unlocking phones to criminals
disabling trigger locks?? Talk about false equivalency. Also,
unlocking a
phone isn't a criminal act typically.



I wonder about that.

I wondered too. It is certainly a breach of contract and I would not
bet some places have made it illegal, just like hacking a cable or
satellite box is illegal. The point was, underestimating the
intelligence of criminals bites us in the ass every time we do it and
usually the actual hack is so simple it makes us wonder why we trusted
the technology in the first place. Once someone figures it out, it
shows up on you tube within an hour.
There is a link for the "5 minute $5 shotgun" on the home repair NG as
we speak. It is crude but it goes bang every time.

If it is, I'd be pretty surprised. Lots and lots of people jailbreak
their iPhones. I know someone who did, didn't like the result and
unbroke it.

Yeah, criminals are so smart. Incredibly, a lot end up in jail.
Brilliant lot.




Jailbreaking or rooting a phone is not the same as setting up a phone to
operate over another carrier's signals outside of a contract. The latter
is at the minimum a breach of contract. The former may only just brick
your phone. I've resisted rooting my smart phone. I just don't see any
reason to do it.

There are no legal penalties that I know of for jailbreaking a phone or
using it with a different carrier. People do the latter all the time when
traveling overseas for example... not quite the same thing, but close.



I'm not familiar with thievery of cell phone equipment and services.

What does Jailbreaking, rooting, and bricking mean?