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nom=de=plume[_2_] September 12th 10 06:09 PM

the rich get richer and the middle class poorer
 

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On Sat, 11 Sep 2010 13:40:23 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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OK I give up, you are right Detroit is booming. Now just go convince
them.


Never said that. GM is coming back, as well as Ford.

Ford is the one that came back, maybe you meant Chrysler/Fiat. That
one is probably not coming back. GM is on life support. There may be a
few bucks to be made on the IPO pop but long term it will be another
Pets.Com


GM is about to go public. Its demise is your opinion, not a fact.

Actually, Ford didn't accept public money, because they were a bit more
forward thinking. I don't think you can blame Obama for either situation.



Secular Humorist[_3_] September 13th 10 05:34 PM

the rich get richer and the middle class poorer
 
On 9/13/10 12:25 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 12 Sep 2010 22:22:22 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


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On Sun, 12 Sep 2010 10:12:24 -0700, "nom=de=plume"


I thought the article was trying to make a bad situation sound good.



I think it was trying to tell the truth. The situation isn't as bad as the
fear mongering would suppose.


The real "tell" on retail is the latter half of 4q. If Christmas is
slow, retail is slow. Let's see how that goes.



Yes, we can certainly tell how well we are doing as a nation by the
quantity of Chinese goods our stores sell for the holidays. Those retail
sales jobs, after all, pay so well.

nom=de=plume[_2_] September 13th 10 05:56 PM

the rich get richer and the middle class poorer
 

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On Sun, 12 Sep 2010 22:22:22 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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wrote in message
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On Sun, 12 Sep 2010 10:12:24 -0700, "nom=de=plume"


I thought the article was trying to make a bad situation sound good.



I think it was trying to tell the truth. The situation isn't as bad as the
fear mongering would suppose.


The real "tell" on retail is the latter half of 4q. If Christmas is
slow, retail is slow. Let's see how that goes.


I agree... let's see how it goes.



Colonel Kurtz September 13th 10 07:23 PM

the rich get richer and the middle class poorer
 

On 11-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote:

The middle class is 20% the size it was in 1990. That won't change,
unless
you were willing to participate.


i do participate. i helped defeat john mccain and sarah 'had me the
launch codes' palin


That's a job half done - you should have defeated the other jackass TOO.

D and R are your pallbearers.

Colonel Kurtz September 13th 10 07:42 PM

the rich get richer and the middle class poorer
 

On 11-Sep-2010, "nom=de=plume" wrote:

The middle class is 20% the size it was in 1990. That won't change,
unless
you were willing to participate.


Obviously, you're unwilling.


I employed just under 130 people at one time. Laid all of them off in 2005
when there were no customers left in the U.S. to ship to. Would like to
have shipped overseas but they're brighter than that in Japan, Korea and red
China. Gee...if only I just gave them a raise, even when they were no longer
needed. That's the Obama nation.

bpuharic September 13th 10 10:32 PM

the rich get richer and the middle class poorer
 
On Mon, 13 Sep 2010 18:21:54 GMT, "Colonel Kurtz"
wrote:


On 11-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote:

let me repeat that BUSH ALREADY DESTROYED THE ECONOMY.


Congress and losers buying everything foreign destroyed the economy.


where's your proof?

All
you want is governemnt to control/enforce wages, but prioces will then need
controls also. EVERYTHING is supply and demand


wrong. we have a command economy managed by wall street to maximize
its own benefits

- cell phones and bottled
water are outrageously priced becaseu the market is willing to pay. Wages
are EXACTLY the same, when labor, engineers, programmers, managers, factory
rats etc. are not needed, their price (wages) go down.


wrong. if that were the case EVERY country would have the same profile
as the US in terms of wages

so you're WRONG


If demand ever returns for U.S. produced products (unlikely) demand for
labor, engineers, programmers, managers, factory rats etc. will rise as well
as the wages to attract the same.

Lot's of trouble in logic class?



guess you never heard of evidence, huh?

oh. you're right wing

bpuharic September 13th 10 10:33 PM

the rich get richer and the middle class poorer
 
On Mon, 13 Sep 2010 18:45:15 GMT, "Colonel Kurtz"
wrote:


On 10-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote:

What's so difficult to comprehend about sending the majority of your
wages
overseas or to the government with the result of being unemployed?


what's so hard to understand that the middle class has had NO real
increase in wages in almost 4 decades?

what does that have to do with walmart?

answer: nothing.


Walmart requires their supplier to produce overseas whenever possible (for
production of products that you might have been involved with.) (where you
used to work) You participate, you're part of the problem.


gee. you suggesting the middle class starve?

oh. we already are, courtesy of the right wing

I am Tosk September 14th 10 03:54 PM

the rich get richer and the middle class poorer
 
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 09:27:26 -0400, "Harry ?"
wrote:

Speaking of soft car market. Went to get my cars oil changed at the local
L/M dealer and didn't see a single car buying customer the whole time I was
there.


I am on my way to the dealer to get a timing belt for my old Prelude.
That was $1000 a couple years ago(I passed). They are going to do it
for $560 today with a coupon. The parts are almost $200 and it is a
miserable job on a Prelude (there is no wheel well cover to remove,
the strut support is right there). Those boys are hungry.


I feel for them.. I thought I was gonna' have to do a waterpump on my
wifes Eclipse, even a couple guys who do work on the side wanted nothing
to do with it.. and one of them has a full setup in his garage with
lift, parts washers, presses, etc... (not that you need a press for the
job). Turned out it wasn't the pump, thank God...

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese!

Secular Humorist[_3_] September 14th 10 04:01 PM

the rich get richer and the middle class poorer
 
On 9/14/10 10:49 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 09:27:26 -0400, "Harry ?"
wrote:

Speaking of soft car market. Went to get my cars oil changed at the local
L/M dealer and didn't see a single car buying customer the whole time I was
there.


I am on my way to the dealer to get a timing belt for my old Prelude.
That was $1000 a couple years ago(I passed). They are going to do it
for $560 today with a coupon. The parts are almost $200 and it is a
miserable job on a Prelude (there is no wheel well cover to remove,
the strut support is right there). Those boys are hungry.





Holy schnitt. I had the belt replaced on my 4Runner about a year ago and
it was *only* $329. Got the old belt back, and it had no visible wear.

Recently replaced the blade drive belt on the Husqvarna lawn tractor
(the model SW Tom says doesn't exist :) )...belt was $35 and putting it
on was a royal pain in the ass.

Harry ? September 14th 10 04:18 PM

the rich get richer and the middle class poorer
 
"I am Tosk" wrote in message
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In article ,
says...

On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 09:27:26 -0400, "Harry ?"
wrote:

Speaking of soft car market. Went to get my cars oil changed at the
local
L/M dealer and didn't see a single car buying customer the whole time I
was
there.


I am on my way to the dealer to get a timing belt for my old Prelude.
That was $1000 a couple years ago(I passed). They are going to do it
for $560 today with a coupon. The parts are almost $200 and it is a
miserable job on a Prelude (there is no wheel well cover to remove,
the strut support is right there). Those boys are hungry.


I feel for them.. I thought I was gonna' have to do a waterpump on my
wifes Eclipse, even a couple guys who do work on the side wanted nothing
to do with it.. and one of them has a full setup in his garage with
lift, parts washers, presses, etc... (not that you need a press for the
job). Turned out it wasn't the pump, thank God...

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese!



Idler pulley?



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