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Frogwatch[_2_] August 1st 10 03:05 AM

When will the hiring start
 
I was asked last night by someone, when my company would begin to hire
again. I told him I was waiting for a sign. Obviously asked "What
kind of sign" so I told him.
The sight of lamposts on the DC mall bending under the weight of
Maxine Waters, Chris Dodd, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Rangel,
Jefferson, Barney Frank, Obama ,etc. AND even that will not do. Now,
I also want to see Ezra Klein and the rest of the JournOlisters heads
on pikes in front of media outlets as a warning that the people will
not settle for made-up "news" anymore. The 2010 elections will not do
as we have no faith in them anymore.
There are millions of small businesses run by people like me and they
are even angrier than me. Employment WILL NOT improve until we are no
longer angry.
Will there be blood? I dunno but this verse from as far back as 1854
may be applicable:
From the New York Tribune in 1854, and the American Anti-Slavery
Society, is it applicable today?

THE AMERICAN FLAG

All hail the flaunting lie!
The stars look pale and dim;
The stripes are bloody scars--
A lie the vaunting hymn!

It shields a pirate’s deck!
It binds a man in chains!
It yokes the captive’s neck,
And wipes the bloody stains!

Tear down the flaunting lie;
Half-mast the starry flag;
Insult no sunny sky
With hate’s polluted rag!

Destroy it, ye who can;
Deep sink it in the waves!
It bears a fellow man,
To groan with fellow slaves!

Furl, furl the boasted lie!
Till freedom lives again,
To rule once more in truth,
Among untrammeled men!

Roll up the starry sheen,
Conceal its bloody stains,
For in its folds are seen
The stamp of rustling chains!


So, I do not choose to support Demoslavery and neither do millions of
other small businessmen who would otherwise be hiring.

nom=de=plume[_2_] August 1st 10 06:07 AM

When will the hiring start
 

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
I was asked last night by someone, when my company would begin to hire
again. I told him I was waiting for a sign. Obviously asked "What
kind of sign" so I told him.
The sight of lamposts on the DC mall bending under the weight of
Maxine Waters, Chris Dodd, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Rangel,
Jefferson, Barney Frank, Obama ,etc. AND even that will not do. Now,
I also want to see Ezra Klein and the rest of the JournOlisters heads
on pikes in front of media outlets as a warning that the people will
not settle for made-up "news" anymore. The 2010 elections will not do
as we have no faith in them anymore.
There are millions of small businesses run by people like me and they
are even angrier than me. Employment WILL NOT improve until we are no
longer angry.
Will there be blood? I dunno but this verse from as far back as 1854
may be applicable:
From the New York Tribune in 1854, and the American Anti-Slavery
Society, is it applicable today?

THE AMERICAN FLAG

All hail the flaunting lie!
The stars look pale and dim;
The stripes are bloody scars--
A lie the vaunting hymn!

It shields a pirate’s deck!
It binds a man in chains!
It yokes the captive’s neck,
And wipes the bloody stains!

Tear down the flaunting lie;
Half-mast the starry flag;
Insult no sunny sky
With hate’s polluted rag!

Destroy it, ye who can;
Deep sink it in the waves!
It bears a fellow man,
To groan with fellow slaves!

Furl, furl the boasted lie!
Till freedom lives again,
To rule once more in truth,
Among untrammeled men!

Roll up the starry sheen,
Conceal its bloody stains,
For in its folds are seen
The stamp of rustling chains!


So, I do not choose to support Demoslavery and neither do millions of
other small businessmen who would otherwise be hiring.


You're a moron.



jps August 1st 10 06:43 AM

When will the hiring start
 
On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 19:05:45 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

I was asked last night by someone, when my company would begin to hire
again. I told him I was waiting for a sign. Obviously asked "What
kind of sign" so I told him.


You told him when somebody finally decides to buy something from you,
you'll then hire an offshore worker to provide the product.

bpuharic August 1st 10 11:57 AM

When will the hiring start
 
On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 19:05:45 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

I was asked last night by someone, when my company would begin to hire
again. I told him I was waiting for a sign. Obviously asked "What
kind of sign" so I told him.
The sight of lamposts on the DC mall bending under the weight of
Maxine Waters, Chris Dodd, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Rangel,
Jefferson, Barney Frank, Obama ,etc. AND even that will not do.



hmmm...looks like a threat worth passing on to the secret service


So, I do not choose to support Demoslavery and neither do millions of
other small businessmen who would otherwise be hiring.


gee. small businessmen just got bitchslapped by the GOP when the GOP
refused to approve legislation enabling loans...

seems you just dont l ike obama because he's black and he's the leader
of the dems...



Harry  August 1st 10 12:04 PM

When will the hiring start
 
On 8/1/10 1:43 AM, jps wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 19:05:45 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

I was asked last night by someone, when my company would begin to hire
again. I told him I was waiting for a sign. Obviously asked "What
kind of sign" so I told him.


You told him when somebody finally decides to buy something from you,
you'll then hire an offshore worker to provide the product.



Yup...that's what frogbreath said. The reality is, his little company
probably is closed for lack of business.

Harry ? August 1st 10 12:42 PM

When will the hiring start
 
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
I was asked last night by someone, when my company would begin to hire
again. I told him I was waiting for a sign. Obviously asked "What
kind of sign" so I told him.
The sight of lamposts on the DC mall bending under the weight of
Maxine Waters, Chris Dodd, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Rangel,
Jefferson, Barney Frank, Obama ,etc. AND even that will not do. Now,
I also want to see Ezra Klein and the rest of the JournOlisters heads
on pikes in front of media outlets as a warning that the people will
not settle for made-up "news" anymore. The 2010 elections will not do
as we have no faith in them anymore.
There are millions of small businesses run by people like me and they
are even angrier than me. Employment WILL NOT improve until we are no
longer angry.
Will there be blood? I dunno but this verse from as far back as 1854
may be applicable:
From the New York Tribune in 1854, and the American Anti-Slavery
Society, is it applicable today?

THE AMERICAN FLAG

All hail the flaunting lie!
The stars look pale and dim;
The stripes are bloody scars--
A lie the vaunting hymn!

It shields a pirate’s deck!
It binds a man in chains!
It yokes the captive’s neck,
And wipes the bloody stains!

Tear down the flaunting lie;
Half-mast the starry flag;
Insult no sunny sky
With hate’s polluted rag!

Destroy it, ye who can;
Deep sink it in the waves!
It bears a fellow man,
To groan with fellow slaves!

Furl, furl the boasted lie!
Till freedom lives again,
To rule once more in truth,
Among untrammeled men!

Roll up the starry sheen,
Conceal its bloody stains,
For in its folds are seen
The stamp of rustling chains!


So, I do not choose to support Demoslavery and neither do millions of
other small businessmen who would otherwise be hiring.


You're a moron.



Your vocabulary of salutations is extremely limited, indicating that you
haven't been properly educated.



Harry ? August 1st 10 12:46 PM

When will the hiring start
 
"Harry ?" wrote in message
...
On 8/1/10 1:43 AM, jps wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 19:05:45 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

I was asked last night by someone, when my company would begin to hire
again. I told him I was waiting for a sign. Obviously asked "What
kind of sign" so I told him.


You told him when somebody finally decides to buy something from you,
you'll then hire an offshore worker to provide the product.



Yup...that's what frogbreath said. The reality is, his little company
probably is closed for lack of business.



Oh brother! Did the little woman lock your company in your basement bedroom
again?
That's the reality.



BAR[_2_] August 1st 10 01:24 PM

When will the hiring start
 
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 19:05:45 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

I was asked last night by someone, when my company would begin to hire
again. I told him I was waiting for a sign. Obviously asked "What
kind of sign" so I told him.


You told him when somebody finally decides to buy something from you,
you'll then hire an offshore worker to provide the product.


Why do you buy off-shore screwdrivers vs. buying US screwdrivers?

I am Tosk August 1st 10 01:52 PM

When will the hiring start
 
In article ,
says...

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 19:05:45 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

I was asked last night by someone, when my company would begin to hire
again. I told him I was waiting for a sign. Obviously asked "What
kind of sign" so I told him.


You told him when somebody finally decides to buy something from you,
you'll then hire an offshore worker to provide the product.


Why do you buy off-shore screwdrivers vs. buying US screwdrivers?


Well, he couldn't have made his point then, could he?

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese!

Harry  August 1st 10 02:15 PM

When will the hiring start
 
On 8/1/10 8:52 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
In om,
says...

In ,
says...

On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 19:05:45 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

I was asked last night by someone, when my company would begin to hire
again. I told him I was waiting for a sign. Obviously asked "What
kind of sign" so I told him.

You told him when somebody finally decides to buy something from you,
you'll then hire an offshore worker to provide the product.


Why do you buy off-shore screwdrivers vs. buying US screwdrivers?


Well, he couldn't have made his point then, could he?



Why would "hiring" have anything to do with you? You're unemployed and
unemployable.

jps August 1st 10 05:03 PM

When will the hiring start
 
On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 08:24:18 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 19:05:45 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

I was asked last night by someone, when my company would begin to hire
again. I told him I was waiting for a sign. Obviously asked "What
kind of sign" so I told him.


You told him when somebody finally decides to buy something from you,
you'll then hire an offshore worker to provide the product.


Why do you buy off-shore screwdrivers vs. buying US screwdrivers?


You're fixated on screwdrivers. I also drive a German car that's
worth thousands of screwdrivers.

I have a rental right now that was made by Chervrolet. It's a piece
of ****. Poor products don't deserve support, no matter where they're
made.

jps August 1st 10 05:05 PM

When will the hiring start
 
On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 09:15:31 -0400, Harry ?
wrote:

On 8/1/10 8:52 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
In om,
says...

In ,
says...

On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 19:05:45 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

I was asked last night by someone, when my company would begin to hire
again. I told him I was waiting for a sign. Obviously asked "What
kind of sign" so I told him.

You told him when somebody finally decides to buy something from you,
you'll then hire an offshore worker to provide the product.

Why do you buy off-shore screwdrivers vs. buying US screwdrivers?


Well, he couldn't have made his point then, could he?



Why would "hiring" have anything to do with you? You're unemployed and
unemployable.


I hire Americans and pay American wages and taxes. I wouldn't hire
offshore even if it made my company more competitive.

Harry  August 1st 10 05:10 PM

When will the hiring start
 
On 8/1/10 12:03 PM, jps wrote:
On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 08:24:18 -0400, wrote:

In ,
says...

On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 19:05:45 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

I was asked last night by someone, when my company would begin to hire
again. I told him I was waiting for a sign. Obviously asked "What
kind of sign" so I told him.

You told him when somebody finally decides to buy something from you,
you'll then hire an offshore worker to provide the product.


Why do you buy off-shore screwdrivers vs. buying US screwdrivers?


You're fixated on screwdrivers. I also drive a German car that's
worth thousands of screwdrivers.

I have a rental right now that was made by Chervrolet. It's a piece
of ****. Poor products don't deserve support, no matter where they're
made.



It's likely those German screwdrivers, as well as your car, was made by
unionized workers. In Europe, that usually means the workers are paid
decently, with good benefits. In the U.S., for the most part, assembly
line jobs are shipped to third world countries where the workers are
exploited.

I hope the U.S. auto industry recovers. Unfortunately, many of the new
unionized workers at U.S. auto plants have been "tiered," in that they
will never make much more than subsistence wages, with greatly reduced
benefits.

I'm going to have to buy another computer printer shortly. The best I
can hope for is that it won't be made in communist china or communist
vietnam.

Oh, and the new country we created - Iraq - is cracking down on its
unionized workers, and these are workers in government-controlled
unions. We've got quite accomplishment in Iraq. We ought to rename it
the Bush-Cheney Abortion.

Canuck57[_9_] August 1st 10 05:30 PM

When will the hiring start
 
On 31/07/2010 8:05 PM, Frogwatch wrote:

So, I do not choose to support Demoslavery and neither do millions of
other small businessmen who would otherwise be hiring.


With Obama debt and overspend, more taxes is guaranteed. Sort of late
to change this course now. It would take a miracle leader willinging to
decomisison 1/2 of the US governemnt to control spending. Elimination
of hundreds of useless stupid government agencies in the biggest
overhaul DC has ever seen. Bailout spending becomes a treasonable
offence with death penalty.

Then possibly this could be averted and economic improvements in a year
or so.

But the reality is it will not happen as too many greedy voters with low
morals will continue to vote for false hope and fast talk. Hire someone
today and the government might just put an employment tax on them you
cannot afford to pay, and laying them off is also costly. Which is why
so much new jobs are temporary/contract.

Anyone who thinks this economy is in for a turn orround, is smiking crack.

--
We are all self-made, but only the rich will admit it.

Jim August 1st 10 05:35 PM

When will the hiring start
 
Frogwatch wrote:
I was asked last night by someone, when my company would begin to hire
again. I told him I was waiting for a sign. Obviously asked "What
kind of sign" so I told him.


Usual political BS snipped.

You don't hire because there's no demand for your product.
And if demand is there and you don't fill it, a Chinaman or Indian or
some other foreigner will step right in and clean your clock.
American business didn't need American labor, now America doesn't need
American business.
Getting tired of these American "businessmen" who don't want to do
business. Biggest crybabies in the country, just looking for gov
handouts. Spoiled all to hell.
We don't need them.
Time to get some hardworking Chinamen and Indians imported in here to
run the businesses so Americans have jobs.
Hell, maybe some Mexican businessmen too.
They know the meaning of hard work and how to get things done.
What good are you to America?
Spoiled brat whining about politics all the time. Crying you won't
hire, crying you'll sell your "business" to foreigners.
Looking for a handout. Not worth a dime.
You ain't no damned businessman.
Real businessmen produce and expand and get things done.
They have products and services that people clamor for.
Looks like you have none of that.
I knew Henry Ford, Henry Ford was a friend of mine, and you Frogwatch,
are no Henry Ford.
All you wannabe "businessmen" are in for it, just like everybody else.
The gravy train has done gone by. Keep what you scooped up warm.
Won't be no more for you unless you work hard for it.
Them stealing-the-gravy days are over.
Only the big shots can score free gravy now.
Best get used to it.

Jim - Emperor of Gravy






Harry  August 1st 10 05:43 PM

When will the hiring start
 
On 8/1/10 12:30 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 31/07/2010 8:05 PM, Frogwatch wrote:

So, I do not choose to support Demoslavery and neither do millions of
other small businessmen who would otherwise be hiring.





With Obama debt and overspend, more taxes is guaranteed. Sort of late to
change this course now. It would take a miracle leader willinging to
decomisison 1/2 of the US governemnt to control spending. Elimination of
hundreds of useless stupid government agencies in the biggest overhaul
DC has ever seen. Bailout spending becomes a treasonable offence with
death penalty.

Then possibly this could be averted and economic improvements in a year
or so.

But the reality is it will not happen as too many greedy voters with low
morals will continue to vote for false hope and fast talk. Hire someone
today and the government might just put an employment tax on them you
cannot afford to pay, and laying them off is also costly. Which is why
so much new jobs are temporary/contract.

Anyone who thinks this economy is in for a turn orround, is smiking crack.


overspend a new way to use this word

willinging he can't spell

decomisison he can't spell

governemnt he can't spell

offence perhaps a Briticism

orround he can't spell

smiking he can't spell


You've convinced me, Canuckistan...you're an un-edu-ma-cated moron.

jps August 1st 10 06:30 PM

When will the hiring start
 
On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 11:35:56 -0500, Jim wrote:

Frogwatch wrote:
I was asked last night by someone, when my company would begin to hire
again. I told him I was waiting for a sign. Obviously asked "What
kind of sign" so I told him.


Usual political BS snipped.

You don't hire because there's no demand for your product.
And if demand is there and you don't fill it, a Chinaman or Indian or
some other foreigner will step right in and clean your clock.
American business didn't need American labor, now America doesn't need
American business.
Getting tired of these American "businessmen" who don't want to do
business. Biggest crybabies in the country, just looking for gov
handouts. Spoiled all to hell.
We don't need them.
Time to get some hardworking Chinamen and Indians imported in here to
run the businesses so Americans have jobs.
Hell, maybe some Mexican businessmen too.
They know the meaning of hard work and how to get things done.
What good are you to America?
Spoiled brat whining about politics all the time. Crying you won't
hire, crying you'll sell your "business" to foreigners.
Looking for a handout. Not worth a dime.
You ain't no damned businessman.
Real businessmen produce and expand and get things done.
They have products and services that people clamor for.
Looks like you have none of that.
I knew Henry Ford, Henry Ford was a friend of mine, and you Frogwatch,
are no Henry Ford.
All you wannabe "businessmen" are in for it, just like everybody else.
The gravy train has done gone by. Keep what you scooped up warm.
Won't be no more for you unless you work hard for it.
Them stealing-the-gravy days are over.
Only the big shots can score free gravy now.
Best get used to it.

Jim - Emperor of Gravy


Well said.

nom=de=plume[_2_] August 1st 10 06:38 PM

When will the hiring start
 

"Harry ?" wrote in message
...
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
I was asked last night by someone, when my company would begin to hire
again. I told him I was waiting for a sign. Obviously asked "What
kind of sign" so I told him.
The sight of lamposts on the DC mall bending under the weight of
Maxine Waters, Chris Dodd, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Rangel,
Jefferson, Barney Frank, Obama ,etc. AND even that will not do. Now,
I also want to see Ezra Klein and the rest of the JournOlisters heads
on pikes in front of media outlets as a warning that the people will
not settle for made-up "news" anymore. The 2010 elections will not do
as we have no faith in them anymore.
There are millions of small businesses run by people like me and they
are even angrier than me. Employment WILL NOT improve until we are no
longer angry.
Will there be blood? I dunno but this verse from as far back as 1854
may be applicable:
From the New York Tribune in 1854, and the American Anti-Slavery
Society, is it applicable today?

THE AMERICAN FLAG

All hail the flaunting lie!
The stars look pale and dim;
The stripes are bloody scars--
A lie the vaunting hymn!

It shields a pirate's deck!
It binds a man in chains!
It yokes the captive's neck,
And wipes the bloody stains!

Tear down the flaunting lie;
Half-mast the starry flag;
Insult no sunny sky
With hate's polluted rag!

Destroy it, ye who can;
Deep sink it in the waves!
It bears a fellow man,
To groan with fellow slaves!

Furl, furl the boasted lie!
Till freedom lives again,
To rule once more in truth,
Among untrammeled men!

Roll up the starry sheen,
Conceal its bloody stains,
For in its folds are seen
The stamp of rustling chains!


So, I do not choose to support Demoslavery and neither do millions of
other small businessmen who would otherwise be hiring.


You're a moron.



Your vocabulary of salutations is extremely limited, indicating that you
haven't been properly educated.


Your stupid spoofing indicates that you're a moron. I doubt the education
system could have helped much.

Ouch... that's gotta hurt. Sorry!



Harry ? August 1st 10 08:43 PM

When will the hiring start
 
"jps" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 09:15:31 -0400, Harry ?
wrote:

On 8/1/10 8:52 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
In om,
says...

In ,
says...

On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 19:05:45 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

I was asked last night by someone, when my company would begin to
hire
again. I told him I was waiting for a sign. Obviously asked "What
kind of sign" so I told him.

You told him when somebody finally decides to buy something from you,
you'll then hire an offshore worker to provide the product.

Why do you buy off-shore screwdrivers vs. buying US screwdrivers?

Well, he couldn't have made his point then, could he?



Why would "hiring" have anything to do with you? You're unemployed and
unemployable.


I hire Americans and pay American wages and taxes. I wouldn't hire
offshore even if it made my company more competitive.



Ask my brother about the benefits package he gives his employees. He
described it to us some time ago when his business was expanding. It wasn't
good or great, it was un****ingbelievable. He was so proud. I'm sure he
would be happy to restate it here on rec.boats.



Harry ? August 1st 10 08:48 PM

When will the hiring start
 
"Harry ?" wrote in message
m...

I hope the U.S. auto industry recovers. Unfortunately, many of the new
unionized workers at U.S. auto plants have been "tiered," in that they
will never make much more than subsistence wages, with greatly reduced
benefits.


Are you planning on purchasing a GM/Chrysler/Ford product? Didn't think so.



Harry ? August 1st 10 08:52 PM

When will the hiring start
 
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...

"Harry ?" wrote in message
...
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
I was asked last night by someone, when my company would begin to hire
again. I told him I was waiting for a sign. Obviously asked "What
kind of sign" so I told him.
The sight of lamposts on the DC mall bending under the weight of
Maxine Waters, Chris Dodd, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Rangel,
Jefferson, Barney Frank, Obama ,etc. AND even that will not do. Now,
I also want to see Ezra Klein and the rest of the JournOlisters heads
on pikes in front of media outlets as a warning that the people will
not settle for made-up "news" anymore. The 2010 elections will not do
as we have no faith in them anymore.
There are millions of small businesses run by people like me and they
are even angrier than me. Employment WILL NOT improve until we are no
longer angry.
Will there be blood? I dunno but this verse from as far back as 1854
may be applicable:
From the New York Tribune in 1854, and the American Anti-Slavery
Society, is it applicable today?

THE AMERICAN FLAG

All hail the flaunting lie!
The stars look pale and dim;
The stripes are bloody scars--
A lie the vaunting hymn!

It shields a pirate's deck!
It binds a man in chains!
It yokes the captive's neck,
And wipes the bloody stains!

Tear down the flaunting lie;
Half-mast the starry flag;
Insult no sunny sky
With hate's polluted rag!

Destroy it, ye who can;
Deep sink it in the waves!
It bears a fellow man,
To groan with fellow slaves!

Furl, furl the boasted lie!
Till freedom lives again,
To rule once more in truth,
Among untrammeled men!

Roll up the starry sheen,
Conceal its bloody stains,
For in its folds are seen
The stamp of rustling chains!


So, I do not choose to support Demoslavery and neither do millions of
other small businessmen who would otherwise be hiring.

You're a moron.



Your vocabulary of salutations is extremely limited, indicating that you
haven't been properly educated.


Your stupid spoofing indicates that you're a moron. I doubt the education
system could have helped much.

Ouch... that's gotta hurt. Sorry!



It's my brother that's hurting. Sorry, I'm not sorry.



Harry  August 1st 10 08:59 PM

When will the hiring start
 
On 8/1/10 3:43 PM, Harry ? wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 09:15:31 -0400, Harry
wrote:

On 8/1/10 8:52 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
In om,
says...

In ,
says...

On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 19:05:45 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

I was asked last night by someone, when my company would begin to
hire
again. I told him I was waiting for a sign. Obviously asked "What
kind of sign" so I told him.

You told him when somebody finally decides to buy something from you,
you'll then hire an offshore worker to provide the product.

Why do you buy off-shore screwdrivers vs. buying US screwdrivers?

Well, he couldn't have made his point then, could he?



Why would "hiring" have anything to do with you? You're unemployed and
unemployable.


I hire Americans and pay American wages and taxes. I wouldn't hire
offshore even if it made my company more competitive.



Ask my brother about the benefits package he gives his employees. He
described it to us some time ago when his business was expanding. It wasn't
good or great, it was un****ingbelievable. He was so proud. I'm sure he
would be happy to restate it here on rec.boats.



Who is your brother, flajim? Dan Krueger?

Harry  August 1st 10 09:01 PM

When will the hiring start
 
On 8/1/10 3:48 PM, Harry ? wrote:
"Harry wrote in message
m...

I hope the U.S. auto industry recovers. Unfortunately, many of the new
unionized workers at U.S. auto plants have been "tiered," in that they
will never make much more than subsistence wages, with greatly reduced
benefits.


Are you planning on purchasing a GM/Chrysler/Ford product? Didn't think so.



Planning, no...recently purchased, yes. Sucks to be you, eh, flajim?

Colonel Kurtz August 1st 10 09:17 PM

When will the hiring start
 

On 1-Aug-2010, Jim wrote:

All you wannabe "businessmen" are in for it, just like everybody else.
The gravy train has done gone by. Keep what you scooped up warm.
Won't be no more for you unless you work hard for it.
Them stealing-the-gravy days are over.
Only the big shots can score free gravy now.
Best get used to it.


Labor (design, engineering, R & D, management and even factory rats) will
not be needed again unless there is demand for domestic product, regardless
of whether the entrepreneurs are Chinamen, Indians, Mexicans or American.
Domestic product demand will not happen until there is wage and lifestyle
equilibrium with China, India and Mexico, or if North Americans suddenly
refuse to buy everything Japanese, Korean and Chinese. The only incentive to
produce in North America is when freight costs make it prohibitive to ship
from overseas.

Only the big shots can score free gravy now.


If they're importers.


Dats da faks, Jack.

YukonBound August 1st 10 09:58 PM

When will the hiring start
 


"Harry " wrote in message
...
On 8/1/10 3:43 PM, Harry ? wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 09:15:31 -0400, Harry
wrote:

On 8/1/10 8:52 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
In om,

says...

In ,
says...

On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 19:05:45 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

I was asked last night by someone, when my company would begin to
hire
again. I told him I was waiting for a sign. Obviously asked "What
kind of sign" so I told him.

You told him when somebody finally decides to buy something from
you,
you'll then hire an offshore worker to provide the product.

Why do you buy off-shore screwdrivers vs. buying US screwdrivers?

Well, he couldn't have made his point then, could he?



Why would "hiring" have anything to do with you? You're unemployed and
unemployable.

I hire Americans and pay American wages and taxes. I wouldn't hire
offshore even if it made my company more competitive.



Ask my brother about the benefits package he gives his employees. He
described it to us some time ago when his business was expanding. It
wasn't
good or great, it was un****ingbelievable. He was so proud. I'm sure he
would be happy to restate it here on rec.boats.



Who is your brother, flajim? Dan Krueger?


Now that would be a stinky pair!


BAR[_2_] August 1st 10 10:55 PM

When will the hiring start
 
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 08:24:18 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 19:05:45 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

I was asked last night by someone, when my company would begin to hire
again. I told him I was waiting for a sign. Obviously asked "What
kind of sign" so I told him.

You told him when somebody finally decides to buy something from you,
you'll then hire an offshore worker to provide the product.


Why do you buy off-shore screwdrivers vs. buying US screwdrivers?


You're fixated on screwdrivers. I also drive a German car that's
worth thousands of screwdrivers.

I have a rental right now that was made by Chervrolet. It's a piece
of ****. Poor products don't deserve support, no matter where they're
made.


Your true colors are shinning through.

Sell your euro-trash auto and buy American and support Americans working
on the line.


BAR[_2_] August 1st 10 10:56 PM

When will the hiring start
 
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 09:15:31 -0400, Harry ?
wrote:

On 8/1/10 8:52 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
In om,

says...

In ,
says...

On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 19:05:45 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

I was asked last night by someone, when my company would begin to hire
again. I told him I was waiting for a sign. Obviously asked "What
kind of sign" so I told him.

You told him when somebody finally decides to buy something from you,
you'll then hire an offshore worker to provide the product.

Why do you buy off-shore screwdrivers vs. buying US screwdrivers?

Well, he couldn't have made his point then, could he?



Why would "hiring" have anything to do with you? You're unemployed and
unemployable.


I hire Americans and pay American wages and taxes. I wouldn't hire
offshore even if it made my company more competitive.


But, you personally have no problem sending your money to Europe to
support the socialist states of the EU?

Your double standard is exposed.



bpuharic August 2nd 10 02:28 AM

When will the hiring start
 
On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 10:30:44 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 31/07/2010 8:05 PM, Frogwatch wrote:

So, I do not choose to support Demoslavery and neither do millions of
other small businessmen who would otherwise be hiring.


With Obama debt and overspend, more taxes is guaranteed.


you mean obama continuing the deficit spending of bush?


But the reality is it will not happen as too many greedy voters with low
morals will continue to vote for false hope and fast talk.


like the 8 years of bush?

oh. he's white. obama's black...


jps August 2nd 10 08:59 AM

When will the hiring start
 
On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 17:56:15 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 09:15:31 -0400, Harry ?
wrote:

On 8/1/10 8:52 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
In om,
says...

In ,
says...

On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 19:05:45 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

I was asked last night by someone, when my company would begin to hire
again. I told him I was waiting for a sign. Obviously asked "What
kind of sign" so I told him.

You told him when somebody finally decides to buy something from you,
you'll then hire an offshore worker to provide the product.

Why do you buy off-shore screwdrivers vs. buying US screwdrivers?

Well, he couldn't have made his point then, could he?



Why would "hiring" have anything to do with you? You're unemployed and
unemployable.


I hire Americans and pay American wages and taxes. I wouldn't hire
offshore even if it made my company more competitive.


But, you personally have no problem sending your money to Europe to
support the socialist states of the EU?

Your double standard is exposed.


Are you talking about my car? It was imported in 1987.

"Socialist states" what a hoot you are.

jps August 2nd 10 09:03 AM

When will the hiring start
 
On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 17:55:05 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 08:24:18 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 19:05:45 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

I was asked last night by someone, when my company would begin to hire
again. I told him I was waiting for a sign. Obviously asked "What
kind of sign" so I told him.

You told him when somebody finally decides to buy something from you,
you'll then hire an offshore worker to provide the product.

Why do you buy off-shore screwdrivers vs. buying US screwdrivers?


You're fixated on screwdrivers. I also drive a German car that's
worth thousands of screwdrivers.

I have a rental right now that was made by Chervrolet. It's a piece
of ****. Poor products don't deserve support, no matter where they're
made.


Your true colors are shinning through.

Sell your euro-trash auto and buy American and support Americans working
on the line.


My eurotrash car was manufactured in 1986 and does not depreciate.

Am I halucinating or are you a member of the crowd who screams about
union labor costing too much? You want me to support them?

I'd be pleased to support them if the designers of the cars they build
would put out a decent product.

Harry ?? August 2nd 10 09:51 AM

When will the hiring start
 
"jps" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 17:56:15 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 09:15:31 -0400, Harry ?
wrote:

On 8/1/10 8:52 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
In om,

says...

In ,
says...

On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 19:05:45 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

I was asked last night by someone, when my company would begin to
hire
again. I told him I was waiting for a sign. Obviously asked
"What
kind of sign" so I told him.

You told him when somebody finally decides to buy something from
you,
you'll then hire an offshore worker to provide the product.

Why do you buy off-shore screwdrivers vs. buying US screwdrivers?

Well, he couldn't have made his point then, could he?



Why would "hiring" have anything to do with you? You're unemployed and
unemployable.

I hire Americans and pay American wages and taxes. I wouldn't hire
offshore even if it made my company more competitive.


But, you personally have no problem sending your money to Europe to
support the socialist states of the EU?

Your double standard is exposed.


Are you talking about my car? It was imported in 1987.

"Socialist states" what a hoot you are.


2 more years and your car is an antique. Is it a collectable car?



Harry ?? August 2nd 10 09:57 AM

When will the hiring start
 
"bpuharic" wrote in message
...

oh. he's white. obama's black...


This Obama is Black business is making you look like a stupid moron.




bpuharic August 2nd 10 11:09 AM

When will the hiring start
 
On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 04:57:35 -0400, "Harry ??"
wrote:

"bpuharic" wrote in message
.. .

oh. he's white. obama's black...


This Obama is Black business is making you look like a stupid moron.


and this 'obama iw wrong because he's correcting bush's mistakes that
weren't bush's mistakes' are making you look right wing.

which is another way of saying 'moron'




BAR[_2_] August 2nd 10 12:43 PM

When will the hiring start
 
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 17:55:05 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 08:24:18 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 19:05:45 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

I was asked last night by someone, when my company would begin to hire
again. I told him I was waiting for a sign. Obviously asked "What
kind of sign" so I told him.

You told him when somebody finally decides to buy something from you,
you'll then hire an offshore worker to provide the product.

Why do you buy off-shore screwdrivers vs. buying US screwdrivers?

You're fixated on screwdrivers. I also drive a German car that's
worth thousands of screwdrivers.

I have a rental right now that was made by Chervrolet. It's a piece
of ****. Poor products don't deserve support, no matter where they're
made.


Your true colors are shinning through.

Sell your euro-trash auto and buy American and support Americans working
on the line.


My eurotrash car was manufactured in 1986 and does not depreciate.


At some point it loses its value to everyone elses.

Am I halucinating or are you a member of the crowd who screams about
union labor costing too much? You want me to support them?


Why don't you want to support union labor? Are you against the guy
working the line in the USA?

I'd be pleased to support them if the designers of the cars they build
would put out a decent product.


So it is the engineers who are are bad.



Harry  August 2nd 10 12:51 PM

When will the hiring start
 
On 8/2/10 7:43 AM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 17:55:05 -0400, wrote:

In ,
says...

On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 08:24:18 -0400, wrote:

In ,
says...

On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 19:05:45 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

I was asked last night by someone, when my company would begin to hire
again. I told him I was waiting for a sign. Obviously asked "What
kind of sign" so I told him.

You told him when somebody finally decides to buy something from you,
you'll then hire an offshore worker to provide the product.

Why do you buy off-shore screwdrivers vs. buying US screwdrivers?

You're fixated on screwdrivers. I also drive a German car that's
worth thousands of screwdrivers.

I have a rental right now that was made by Chervrolet. It's a piece
of ****. Poor products don't deserve support, no matter where they're
made.

Your true colors are shinning through.

Sell your euro-trash auto and buy American and support Americans working
on the line.


My eurotrash car was manufactured in 1986 and does not depreciate.


At some point it loses its value to everyone elses.

Am I halucinating or are you a member of the crowd who screams about
union labor costing too much? You want me to support them?


Why don't you want to support union labor? Are you against the guy
working the line in the USA?

I'd be pleased to support them if the designers of the cars they build
would put out a decent product.


So it is the engineers who are are bad.


It is obvious you know nothing about large scale modern assembly line
manufacturing. The most important factors in determining mass-produced
car manufacturing are design, engineering, quality of materials and
assembly line procedures and equipment and then the workforce. The
assembly line workers either know what they are doing or are trained to
do what management wants.

So, yes...if the cars are coming out badly, it is typically the fault of
the white collar workers, not the assembly line workers.

Harry ?? August 2nd 10 01:03 PM

When will the hiring start
 
"Harry " wrote in message
m...
: On 8/2/10 7:43 AM, BAR wrote:
: In ,
: says...
:
: On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 17:55:05 -0400, wrote:
:
: In ,
:
says...
:
: On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 08:24:18 -0400, wrote:
:
: In ,
:
says...
:
: On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 19:05:45 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
: wrote:
:
: I was asked last night by someone, when my company would begin to
hire
: again. I told him I was waiting for a sign. Obviously asked
"What
: kind of sign" so I told him.
:
: You told him when somebody finally decides to buy something from
you,
: you'll then hire an offshore worker to provide the product.
:
: Why do you buy off-shore screwdrivers vs. buying US screwdrivers?
:
: You're fixated on screwdrivers. I also drive a German car that's
: worth thousands of screwdrivers.
:
: I have a rental right now that was made by Chervrolet. It's a piece
: of ****. Poor products don't deserve support, no matter where
they're
: made.
:
: Your true colors are shinning through.
:
: Sell your euro-trash auto and buy American and support Americans
working
: on the line.
:
: My eurotrash car was manufactured in 1986 and does not depreciate.
:
: At some point it loses its value to everyone elses.
:
: Am I halucinating or are you a member of the crowd who screams about
: union labor costing too much? You want me to support them?
:
: Why don't you want to support union labor? Are you against the guy
: working the line in the USA?
:
: I'd be pleased to support them if the designers of the cars they build
: would put out a decent product.
:
: So it is the engineers who are are bad.
:
:
: It is obvious you know nothing about large scale modern assembly line
: manufacturing. The most important factors in determining mass-produced
: car manufacturing are design, engineering, quality of materials and
: assembly line procedures and equipment and then the workforce. The
: assembly line workers either know what they are doing or are trained to
: do what management wants.
:
: So, yes...if the cars are coming out badly, it is typically the fault of
: the white collar workers, not the assembly line workers.


So, if the $50 per hour slug who twists the lugnuts on does it improperly
after being trained, you blame the white collar workers? There's a story
there. Let's hear it Bozo.


Harry  August 2nd 10 01:20 PM

When will the hiring start
 
On 8/2/10 8:03 AM, Harry ?? wrote:
"Harry wrote in message
m...
: On 8/2/10 7:43 AM, BAR wrote:
: In ,
: says...
:
: On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 17:55:05 -0400, wrote:
:
: In ,
:
says...
:
: On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 08:24:18 -0400, wrote:
:
: In ,
:
says...
:
: On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 19:05:45 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
: wrote:
:
: I was asked last night by someone, when my company would begin to
hire
: again. I told him I was waiting for a sign. Obviously asked
"What
: kind of sign" so I told him.
:
: You told him when somebody finally decides to buy something from
you,
: you'll then hire an offshore worker to provide the product.
:
: Why do you buy off-shore screwdrivers vs. buying US screwdrivers?
:
: You're fixated on screwdrivers. I also drive a German car that's
: worth thousands of screwdrivers.
:
: I have a rental right now that was made by Chervrolet. It's a piece
: of ****. Poor products don't deserve support, no matter where
they're
: made.
:
: Your true colors are shinning through.
:
: Sell your euro-trash auto and buy American and support Americans
working
: on the line.
:
: My eurotrash car was manufactured in 1986 and does not depreciate.
:
: At some point it loses its value to everyone elses.
:
: Am I halucinating or are you a member of the crowd who screams about
: union labor costing too much? You want me to support them?
:
: Why don't you want to support union labor? Are you against the guy
: working the line in the USA?
:
: I'd be pleased to support them if the designers of the cars they build
: would put out a decent product.
:
: So it is the engineers who are are bad.
:
:
: It is obvious you know nothing about large scale modern assembly line
: manufacturing. The most important factors in determining mass-produced
: car manufacturing are design, engineering, quality of materials and
: assembly line procedures and equipment and then the workforce. The
: assembly line workers either know what they are doing or are trained to
: do what management wants.
:
: So, yes...if the cars are coming out badly, it is typically the fault of
: the white collar workers, not the assembly line workers.


So, if the $50 per hour slug who twists the lugnuts on does it improperly
after being trained, you blame the white collar workers? There's a story
there. Let's hear it Bozo.



You just don't get it, flajim. No surprise, since the most important job
in your life was a sinecure.

If the assembly line worker is doing his job improperly, it is up to
management to pick up on this, provide more training and, if necessary,
impose some sort of discipline.

BTW, what gives you the right to call a factory worker a slug? It's not
as if you have been trusted with anything but scut work your entire life.


Harry? August 2nd 10 01:43 PM

When will the hiring start
 
In article ,
says...

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
I was asked last night by someone, when my company would begin to hire
again. I told him I was waiting for a sign. Obviously asked "What
kind of sign" so I told him.
The sight of lamposts on the DC mall bending under the weight of
Maxine Waters, Chris Dodd, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Rangel,
Jefferson, Barney Frank, Obama ,etc. AND even that will not do. Now,
I also want to see Ezra Klein and the rest of the JournOlisters heads
on pikes in front of media outlets as a warning that the people will
not settle for made-up "news" anymore. The 2010 elections will not do
as we have no faith in them anymore.
There are millions of small businesses run by people like me and they
are even angrier than me. Employment WILL NOT improve until we are no
longer angry.
Will there be blood? I dunno but this verse from as far back as 1854
may be applicable:
From the New York Tribune in 1854, and the American Anti-Slavery
Society, is it applicable today?

THE AMERICAN FLAG

All hail the flaunting lie!
The stars look pale and dim;
The stripes are bloody scars--
A lie the vaunting hymn!

It shields a pirate?s deck!
It binds a man in chains!
It yokes the captive?s neck,
And wipes the bloody stains!

Tear down the flaunting lie;
Half-mast the starry flag;
Insult no sunny sky
With hate?s polluted rag!

Destroy it, ye who can;
Deep sink it in the waves!
It bears a fellow man,
To groan with fellow slaves!

Furl, furl the boasted lie!
Till freedom lives again,
To rule once more in truth,
Among untrammeled men!

Roll up the starry sheen,
Conceal its bloody stains,
For in its folds are seen
The stamp of rustling chains!


So, I do not choose to support Demoslavery and neither do millions of
other small businessmen who would otherwise be hiring.


You're a moron.



Your vocabulary of salutations is extremely limited, indicating that you
haven't been properly educated.


Unlike me. My mother used to lock me in my room to take practice tests.
It's safe in there.

Harry? August 2nd 10 01:44 PM

When will the hiring start
 
In article ,
says...

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 19:05:45 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

I was asked last night by someone, when my company would begin to hire
again. I told him I was waiting for a sign. Obviously asked "What
kind of sign" so I told him.


You told him when somebody finally decides to buy something from you,
you'll then hire an offshore worker to provide the product.


Why do you buy off-shore screwdrivers vs. buying US screwdrivers?


Because I want people to think that I am the best, and I own the best of
everything. It's that damned narcissist problem.

Harry? August 2nd 10 01:45 PM

When will the hiring start
 
In article ,
says...

"Harry ?" wrote in message
...
On 8/1/10 3:43 PM, Harry ? wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 09:15:31 -0400, Harry
wrote:

On 8/1/10 8:52 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
In om,

says...

In ,
says...

On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 19:05:45 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

I was asked last night by someone, when my company would begin to
hire
again. I told him I was waiting for a sign. Obviously asked "What
kind of sign" so I told him.

You told him when somebody finally decides to buy something from
you,
you'll then hire an offshore worker to provide the product.

Why do you buy off-shore screwdrivers vs. buying US screwdrivers?

Well, he couldn't have made his point then, could he?



Why would "hiring" have anything to do with you? You're unemployed and
unemployable.

I hire Americans and pay American wages and taxes. I wouldn't hire
offshore even if it made my company more competitive.


Ask my brother about the benefits package he gives his employees. He
described it to us some time ago when his business was expanding. It
wasn't
good or great, it was un****ingbelievable. He was so proud. I'm sure he
would be happy to restate it here on rec.boats.



Who is your brother, flajim? Dan Krueger?


Now that would be a stinky pair!


Kind of like when you and your drunken son get in a stupor and ****
yourselves?


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