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Gasahol Blues
For years now, I have been fighting the problems keeping my 4
stroke Ymmaha T9.9 running. Even with adding preservatives to the gas tank, replacing the fuel delivery system, and adding a 19 micron filter inline with the gas feed, the tiny jets on this engine occasionally block up. Nothing helps short of tearing down the carb to clean them. Most of the modern gas engines have these small jets that continually block up. Gasahol is mostly to blame either because it dissolves any loose dirt in your system or breaks down into something that eventually blocks the carbs. Now we have an increase of alcohol being pushed by our farmers to 15 per cent instead of the current 10 percent. This is sure to make the problem worse. The engine manufacturer's have not come up with a really good solution. Just band-aid fixes like adding inline filters and preservatives to the gas. This is taking all the fun out of boating and can even be a safety issue. Sherwin |
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The key is recognizing the 90 day life of this fuel. After 90 days it starts to gel. You must empty the tank, flush the fuel line
and drain the carb before letting it stand or suffer the consequences. It's a pain, but it only takes a few minutes. Steve "sherwin dubren" wrote in message ... For years now, I have been fighting the problems keeping my 4 stroke Ymmaha T9.9 running. Even with adding preservatives to the gas tank, replacing the fuel delivery system, and adding a 19 micron filter inline with the gas feed, the tiny jets on this engine occasionally block up. Nothing helps short of tearing down the carb to clean them. Most of the modern gas engines have these small jets that continually block up. Gasahol is mostly to blame either because it dissolves any loose dirt in your system or breaks down into something that eventually blocks the carbs. Now we have an increase of alcohol being pushed by our farmers to 15 per cent instead of the current 10 percent. This is sure to make the problem worse. The engine manufacturer's have not come up with a really good solution. Just band-aid fixes like adding inline filters and preservatives to the gas. This is taking all the fun out of boating and can even be a safety issue. Sherwin |
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On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 02:13:41 -0500, sherwin dubren
wrote: For years now, I have been fighting the problems keeping my 4 stroke Ymmaha T9.9 running. Even with adding preservatives to the gas tank, replacing the fuel delivery system, and adding a 19 micron filter inline with the gas feed, the tiny jets on this engine occasionally block up. **** goes through the filter and plugs things. Getting a finer grain filter is a no brainer. Nothing helps short of tearin down the carb to clean them. Most of the modern gas engines have these small jets that continually block up. If you quit putting known dirty gas in your equipment that will help. Gasahol is mostly to blame either because it dissolves any loose dirt in your system or breaks down into something that eventually blocks the carbs. Now we have an increase of alcohol being pushed by our farmers to 15 per cent instead of the current 10 percent. This is sure to make the problem worse. The engine manufacturer's have not come up with a really good solution. Just band-aid fixes like adding inline filters and preservatives to the gas. This is taking all the fun out of boating and can even be a safety issue. It is not all that difficult to remove alcohol from gasoline. Just add maybe 20% waterand shake well. Then pour off the upper gasoline layer and discard the lower water layer that has all the alcohol in it. Get the local fuel dealer to drop off a 300 gallon barrel. You can add the water and stir with compressed air, then drain the water. Casady |
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On Jul 27, 9:23*am, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 08:36:43 -0400, wrote: I don't run any sort of inline filter, but if you are having trouble, due to rust or bad gas, I would suggest that 19 micron is pretty coarse as your defense. I would have a 10 as my coarse filter and a 2 micron filter between that and the engine. The filter is good advice. * We were having problems with our 4 stroke Honda dinghy engine until I added an external filter. * Since adding the filter, no problems. * When I dump out the filter after changing the element, there is always a fair amount of crud and water. QUESTION / SURVEY (NOT AN ADVERTISEMENT) I work at a major marine supplies retailer, and we are featuring "Star-Tron" fuel additive. It claims to resolve ethanol problems as well as "old" gas. The deisel version claims to reduce biological growth in the tank. As we are serious boaters, I want to be as honest and helpful as possible. When I point out the product, many customers tell me they use and like it. Other staff boaters tell me the same. I am interested in your input on this product, good or bad. Please let me know if you use the gas or deisel form, and how long you have used it. Have you noticed a difference? Good or bad? any anecdotes are welcome. Fair winds and good gas, Jayhearts |
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sherwin dubren wrote:
For years now, I have been fighting the problems keeping my 4 stroke Ymmaha T9.9 running. Even with adding preservatives to the gas tank, replacing the fuel delivery system, and adding a 19 micron filter inline with the gas feed, the tiny jets on this engine occasionally block up. Nothing helps short of tearing down the carb to clean them. Most of the modern gas engines have these small jets that continually block up. Gasahol is mostly to blame either because it dissolves any loose dirt in your system or breaks down into something that eventually blocks the carbs. Now we have an increase of alcohol being pushed by our farmers to 15 per cent instead of the current 10 percent. This is sure to make the problem worse. The engine manufacturer's have not come up with a really good solution. Just band-aid fixes like adding inline filters and preservatives to the gas. This is taking all the fun out of boating and can even be a safety issue. Sherwin My neighbor, the fuel polisher, is getting more and more calls to suck out old gasohol and dispose of it. Makin money! BTW, the problem in the 4 stroke little engines is an epa deal. There is a hidden adjustment on most. On the Hondas, there is an adjuster on the side of the carb that is limited by a little cap. Use a little torch to heat the solder holding the cap on. With the cap off, a little extra turn and the engine will run great. The Yam probably has a cover over the adjuster as I had on a little road bike. G |
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On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 07:04:09 -0700 (PDT), jayhearts
wrote: QUESTION / SURVEY (NOT AN ADVERTISEMENT) I work at a major marine supplies retailer, and we are featuring "Star-Tron" fuel additive. It claims to resolve ethanol problems as well as "old" gas. The deisel version claims to reduce biological growth in the tank. As we are serious boaters, I want to be as honest and helpful as possible. When I point out the product, many customers tell me they use and like it. Other staff boaters tell me the same. I am interested in your input on this product, good or bad. Please let me know if you use the gas or deisel form, and how long you have used it. Have you noticed a difference? Good or bad? any anecdotes are welcome. Fair winds and good gas, Jayhearts Your post sounds suspiciously self serving but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. A professional fuel polisher with a good reputation told me that the diesel product he prefers is Pri-D. He also said that Biobor is effective but that Pri-D creates smaller "clumps" when the bacteria precipitate out. Smaller clumps are desirable because they are less likely to accumulate in the bottom of the tank and clog the fuel feed. For gasoline Sta-Bil seems to be the product of choice among people that I know. I've also used it myself with good results. |
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sherwin dubren wrote: and adding a 19 micron filter inline with the gas feed Geez Louise, what are you trying to filter out, Wood chips, or sand? Get yourself a Racor Water Separator/Filter that has a, not larger than 2 Micron spec and be done with the whole problem. |
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Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 07:04:09 -0700 (PDT), jayhearts wrote: QUESTION / SURVEY (NOT AN ADVERTISEMENT) I work at a major marine supplies retailer, and we are featuring "Star-Tron" fuel additive. It claims to resolve ethanol problems as well as "old" gas. The deisel version claims to reduce biological growth in the tank. As we are serious boaters, I want to be as honest and helpful as possible. When I point out the product, many customers tell me they use and like it. Other staff boaters tell me the same. I am interested in your input on this product, good or bad. Please let me know if you use the gas or deisel form, and how long you have used it. Have you noticed a difference? Good or bad? any anecdotes are welcome. Fair winds and good gas, Jayhearts Your post sounds suspiciously self serving but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. A professional fuel polisher with a good reputation told me that the diesel product he prefers is Pri-D. He also said that Biobor is effective but that Pri-D creates smaller "clumps" when the bacteria precipitate out. Smaller clumps are desirable because they are less likely to accumulate in the bottom of the tank and clog the fuel feed. For gasoline Sta-Bil seems to be the product of choice among people that I know. I've also used it myself with good results. I also use Sta-Bil - marine formula. Our marina still has non-alcohol contaminated fuel at the gas pump. But I sometimes do bring in auto gas, and other marinas - who knows? So far, no problems, though. -- Richard Lamb |
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On Jul 27, 1:52*pm, cavelamb wrote:
Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 07:04:09 -0700 (PDT), jayhearts wrote: QUESTION / SURVEY *(NOT AN ADVERTISEMENT) * * I work at a major marine supplies retailer, and we are featuring "Star-Tron" fuel additive. *It claims to resolve ethanol problems as well as "old" gas. *The deisel version claims to reduce biological growth in the tank. *As we are serious boaters, I want to be as honest and helpful as possible. *When I point out the product, many customers tell me they use and like it. Other staff boaters tell me the same. *I am interested in your input on this product, good or bad. *Please let me know if you use the gas or deisel form, and how long you have used it. *Have you noticed a difference? *Good or bad? *any anecdotes are welcome. Fair winds and good gas, Jayhearts Your post sounds suspiciously self serving but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. * A professional fuel polisher with a good reputation told me that the diesel product he prefers is Pri-D. *He also said that Biobor is effective but that Pri-D creates smaller "clumps" when the bacteria precipitate out. *Smaller clumps are desirable because they are less likely to accumulate in the bottom of the tank and clog the fuel feed. For gasoline Sta-Bil seems to be the product of choice among people that I know. *I've also used it myself with good results. I also use Sta-Bil - marine formula. Our marina still has non-alcohol contaminated fuel at the gas pump. But I sometimes do bring in auto gas, and other marinas - who knows? So far, no problems, though. -- Richard Lamb Get ready for this problem to get much worse and to waste far more oil than it saves. Marinas are soon not going to be able to get ethanol free fuels and the ethanol content is due to increase. The economic cost of ethanol in fuel runs into the tens of billions each year with as much fuel dumped due to being contaminated with water as leaked during the gulf oil spill. The ethanol in fuel is one of the stupidest things ever to be pushed by enviro types and had done more damage to the environment than the gulf oil spill. Consider the millions of people with small gas engines who when finding the fuel is bad simply dump it on the ground.Consider millions of boaters who find they have an entire fuel tank with contaminated fuel simply dump it because there is no good way to dispose of it. The damage done by the use of such fuel is greater than anything BP could have done. |
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On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 11:09:02 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote: For gasoline Sta-Bil seems to be the product of choice among people that I know. I've also used it myself with good results. Star-Tron is the way to go. I've been using it now for a couple of years in both the Grady and Ranger - not a hickup. Sta-Bil did have some problems a few years ago when ethanol was first introduced and were late to the party, but they also changed their forumulation a little to adjust. Star-tron was formulated for ethanol gasolines - I think the representative said up to 20% ethanol, but don't quote me on that - it was at the Boston Boat Show a couple/three years ago. So far, it's been great. |
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On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 09:27:03 -0700, Mark Borgerson
wrote: It is not all that difficult to remove alcohol from gasoline. Just add maybe 20% waterand shake well. Then pour off the upper gasoline layer and discard the lower water layer that has all the alcohol in it. Get the local fuel dealer to drop off a 300 gallon barrel. You can add the water and stir with compressed air, then drain the water. Will that change the effective octane rating of the remaining gasoline? Ethanol, and the methanol my car uses, propane, acetone, toluene they all rate 100 octane. If you take it out it will lower the octane three points or so to the level you have with the upblended gas sold as such. Casady |
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On Jul 27, 11:09*am, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 07:04:09 -0700 (PDT), jayhearts wrote: QUESTION / SURVEY *(NOT AN ADVERTISEMENT) * * I work at a major marine supplies retailer, and we are featuring "Star-Tron" fuel additive. *It claims to resolve ethanol problems as well as "old" gas. *The deisel version claims to reduce biological growth in the tank. *As we are serious boaters, I want to be as honest and helpful as possible. *When I point out the product, many customers tell me they use and like it. Other staff boaters tell me the same. *I am interested in your input on this product, good or bad. *Please let me know if you use the gas or deisel form, and how long you have used it. *Have you noticed a difference? *Good or bad? *any anecdotes are welcome. Fair winds and good gas, Jayhearts Your post sounds suspiciously self serving but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. * A professional fuel polisher with a good reputation told me that the diesel product he prefers is Pri-D. *He also said that Biobor is effective but that Pri-D creates smaller "clumps" when the bacteria precipitate out. *Smaller clumps are desirable because they are less likely to accumulate in the bottom of the tank and clog the fuel feed. For gasoline Sta-Bil seems to be the product of choice among people that I know. *I've also used it myself with good results. I use the regular Sta-Bil around the house, and the Marine Sta-Bil on the boat with every tank at the maintenance dose. It doesn't get stored long enough in "winter" to worry about it. Never had an issue. |
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sherwin dubren wrote:
For years now, I have been fighting the problems keeping my 4 stroke Ymmaha T9.9 running. Even with adding preservatives to the gas tank, replacing the fuel delivery system, and adding a 19 micron filter inline with the gas feed, the tiny jets on this engine occasionally block up. Nothing helps short of tearing down the carb to clean them. Most of the modern gas engines have these small jets that continually block up. Gasahol is mostly to blame either because it dissolves any loose dirt in your system or breaks down into something that eventually blocks the carbs. Now we have an increase of alcohol being pushed by our farmers to 15 per cent instead of the current 10 percent. This is sure to make the problem worse. The engine manufacturer's have not come up with a really good solution. Just band-aid fixes like adding inline filters and preservatives to the gas. This is taking all the fun out of boating and can even be a safety issue. Sherwin I have fuel infection but that is also susceptible to clogs and failure. I have been using this in my boat and ATV for years will good results: http://www.seafoamsales.com/motor-treatment.html It's a lot cheaper than Yamaha's version of the same product. |
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"Larry" wrote in message
... sherwin dubren wrote: For years now, I have been fighting the problems keeping my 4 stroke Ymmaha T9.9 running. Even with adding preservatives to the gas tank, replacing the fuel delivery system, and adding a 19 micron filter inline with the gas feed, the tiny jets on this engine occasionally block up. Nothing helps short of tearing down the carb to clean them. Most of the modern gas engines have these small jets that continually block up. Gasahol is mostly to blame either because it dissolves any loose dirt in your system or breaks down into something that eventually blocks the carbs. Now we have an increase of alcohol being pushed by our farmers to 15 per cent instead of the current 10 percent. This is sure to make the problem worse. The engine manufacturer's have not come up with a really good solution. Just band-aid fixes like adding inline filters and preservatives to the gas. This is taking all the fun out of boating and can even be a safety issue. Sherwin I have fuel infection but that is also susceptible to clogs and failure. I have been using this in my boat and ATV for years will good results: http://www.seafoamsales.com/motor-treatment.html It's a lot cheaper than Yamaha's version of the same product. That stuff has a good reputation but After putting two cans of the stuff through the fuel system on my bike I still had to have the carbs cleaned. -- Me |
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On Jul 27, 1:28*pm, W1TEF wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 11:09:02 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: For gasoline Sta-Bil seems to be the product of choice among people that I know. *I've also used it myself with good results. Star-Tron is the way to go. I've been using it now for a couple of years in both the Grady and Ranger - not a hickup. Sta-Bil did have some problems a few years ago when ethanol was first introduced and were late to the party, but they also changed their forumulation a little to adjust. *Star-tron was formulated for ethanol gasolines - I think the representative said up to 20% ethanol, but don't quote me on that - it was at the Boston Boat Show a couple/three years ago. So far, it's been great. Where do you get the stuff, Tom? auto parts store? I'll be checking in on it because the new hydrogenated gas-o-hol's are a concern on my aged 85 hp SeaHorse. |
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says... "Larry" wrote in message ... sherwin dubren wrote: For years now, I have been fighting the problems keeping my 4 stroke Ymmaha T9.9 running. Even with adding preservatives to the gas tank, replacing the fuel delivery system, and adding a 19 micron filter inline with the gas feed, the tiny jets on this engine occasionally block up. Nothing helps short of tearing down the carb to clean them. Most of the modern gas engines have these small jets that continually block up. Gasahol is mostly to blame either because it dissolves any loose dirt in your system or breaks down into something that eventually blocks the carbs. Now we have an increase of alcohol being pushed by our farmers to 15 per cent instead of the current 10 percent. This is sure to make the problem worse. The engine manufacturer's have not come up with a really good solution. Just band-aid fixes like adding inline filters and preservatives to the gas. This is taking all the fun out of boating and can even be a safety issue. Sherwin I have fuel infection but that is also susceptible to clogs and failure. I have been using this in my boat and ATV for years will good results: http://www.seafoamsales.com/motor-treatment.html It's a lot cheaper than Yamaha's version of the same product. That stuff has a good reputation but After putting two cans of the stuff through the fuel system on my bike I still had to have the carbs cleaned. Spoofer, are you saying that your year old motorcycle has had to have carb work on it already? |
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"Harry?" wrote in message
... In article , says... "Larry" wrote in message ... sherwin dubren wrote: For years now, I have been fighting the problems keeping my 4 stroke Ymmaha T9.9 running. Even with adding preservatives to the gas tank, replacing the fuel delivery system, and adding a 19 micron filter inline with the gas feed, the tiny jets on this engine occasionally block up. Nothing helps short of tearing down the carb to clean them. Most of the modern gas engines have these small jets that continually block up. Gasahol is mostly to blame either because it dissolves any loose dirt in your system or breaks down into something that eventually blocks the carbs. Now we have an increase of alcohol being pushed by our farmers to 15 per cent instead of the current 10 percent. This is sure to make the problem worse. The engine manufacturer's have not come up with a really good solution. Just band-aid fixes like adding inline filters and preservatives to the gas. This is taking all the fun out of boating and can even be a safety issue. Sherwin I have fuel infection but that is also susceptible to clogs and failure. I have been using this in my boat and ATV for years will good results: http://www.seafoamsales.com/motor-treatment.html It's a lot cheaper than Yamaha's version of the same product. That stuff has a good reputation but After putting two cans of the stuff through the fuel system on my bike I still had to have the carbs cleaned. Spoofer, are you saying that your year old motorcycle has had to have carb work on it already? That was my imaginary bike. My real bike is 15 years old. Cleaning the carbs was part of the problem. A collapsed vacuum hose and a rotted diaphragm was the rest of the problem. -- Me |
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WaIIy wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:27:00 -0400, wrote: sherwin dubren wrote: For years now, I have been fighting the problems keeping my 4 stroke Ymmaha T9.9 running. Even with adding preservatives to the gas tank, replacing the fuel delivery system, and adding a 19 micron filter inline with the gas feed, the tiny jets on this engine occasionally block up. Nothing helps short of tearing down the carb to clean them. Most of the modern gas engines have these small jets that continually block up. Gasahol is mostly to blame either because it dissolves any loose dirt in your system or breaks down into something that eventually blocks the carbs. Now we have an increase of alcohol being pushed by our farmers to 15 per cent instead of the current 10 percent. This is sure to make the problem worse. The engine manufacturer's have not come up with a really good solution. Just band-aid fixes like adding inline filters and preservatives to the gas. This is taking all the fun out of boating and can even be a safety issue. Sherwin I have fuel infection but that is also susceptible to clogs and failure. I have been using this in my boat and ATV for years will good results: http://www.seafoamsales.com/motor-treatment.html It's a lot cheaper than Yamaha's version of the same product. I've used Seafoam in my cycles, scooter, lawnmowers, etc and it's great. A highly regarded product. So far, so good in the ATV. That see's the least amount of hours. I only use it to move by boat around my yard and out to the street. The area I store it has a septic tank and my 5000# plus SUV would find the bottom of that fast and kill WAFA and Dummy in the process. |
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"Larry" wrote in message ... So far, so good in the ATV. That see's the least amount of hours. I only use it to move by boat around my yard and out to the street. The area I store it has a septic tank and my 5000# plus SUV would find the bottom of that fast and kill WAFA and Dummy in the process. Terrible way to disrespect your family. Have you no class at all? |
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"Harry?" wrote in message ... In article , says... "Larry" wrote in message ... So far, so good in the ATV. That see's the least amount of hours. I only use it to move by boat around my yard and out to the street. The area I store it has a septic tank and my 5000# plus SUV would find the bottom of that fast and kill WAFA and Dummy in the process. Terrible way to disrespect your family. Have you no class at all? Little buddy, I've got to tell you, it's looking like you have an infatuation with Larry. Just the reverse Doper...... I'm constantly fending off his advances. |
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On 7/30/10 9:28 AM, YukonBound wrote:
"Harry?" wrote in message ... In article , says... "Larry" wrote in message ... So far, so good in the ATV. That see's the least amount of hours. I only use it to move by boat around my yard and out to the street. The area I store it has a septic tank and my 5000# plus SUV would find the bottom of that fast and kill WAFA and Dummy in the process. Terrible way to disrespect your family. Have you no class at all? Little buddy, I've got to tell you, it's looking like you have an infatuation with Larry. Just the reverse Doper...... I'm constantly fending off his advances. You're just encouraging him, Don. |
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"Harry ?" wrote in message
m... On 7/30/10 9:28 AM, YukonBound wrote: "Harry?" wrote in message ... In article , says... "Larry" wrote in message ... So far, so good in the ATV. That see's the least amount of hours. I only use it to move by boat around my yard and out to the street. The area I store it has a septic tank and my 5000# plus SUV would find the bottom of that fast and kill WAFA and Dummy in the process. Terrible way to disrespect your family. Have you no class at all? Little buddy, I've got to tell you, it's looking like you have an infatuation with Larry. Just the reverse Doper...... I'm constantly fending off his advances. You're just encouraging him, Don. He's just following our lead, brother. You know he can't think for himself. Should we be proud of making Don what he is today? Probably not. -- Me |
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says... On 7/30/10 9:28 AM, YukonBound wrote: "Harry?" wrote in message ... In article , says... "Larry" wrote in message ... So far, so good in the ATV. That see's the least amount of hours. I only use it to move by boat around my yard and out to the street. The area I store it has a septic tank and my 5000# plus SUV would find the bottom of that fast and kill WAFA and Dummy in the process. Terrible way to disrespect your family. Have you no class at all? Little buddy, I've got to tell you, it's looking like you have an infatuation with Larry. Just the reverse Doper...... I'm constantly fending off his advances. You're just encouraging him, Don. Spoofer alert! Everyone here knows that I'll do anything for attention. |
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"Harry ?" wrote in message ... "Harry ?" wrote in message m... On 7/30/10 9:28 AM, YukonBound wrote: "Harry?" wrote in message ... In article , says... "Larry" wrote in message ... So far, so good in the ATV. That see's the least amount of hours. I only use it to move by boat around my yard and out to the street. The area I store it has a septic tank and my 5000# plus SUV would find the bottom of that fast and kill WAFA and Dummy in the process. Terrible way to disrespect your family. Have you no class at all? Little buddy, I've got to tell you, it's looking like you have an infatuation with Larry. Just the reverse Doper...... I'm constantly fending off his advances. You're just encouraging him, Don. He's just following our lead, brother. You know he can't think for himself. Should we be proud of making Don what he is today? Probably not. -- Me 'make"?? You couldn't make your bed without help. |
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says... "Harry ?" wrote in message ... "Harry ?" wrote in message m... On 7/30/10 9:28 AM, YukonBound wrote: "Harry?" wrote in message ... In article , says... "Larry" wrote in message ... So far, so good in the ATV. That see's the least amount of hours. I only use it to move by boat around my yard and out to the street. The area I store it has a septic tank and my 5000# plus SUV would find the bottom of that fast and kill WAFA and Dummy in the process. Terrible way to disrespect your family. Have you no class at all? Little buddy, I've got to tell you, it's looking like you have an infatuation with Larry. Just the reverse Doper...... I'm constantly fending off his advances. You're just encouraging him, Don. He's just following our lead, brother. You know he can't think for himself. Should we be proud of making Don what he is today? Probably not. -- Me 'make"?? You couldn't make your bed without help. Watch it, my bow-legged little buddy! You know that until I taught you how to be an ass that does nothing but insult and call people names, you were taken seriously and people actually liked you. |
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On Jul 27, 8:57*pm, "Harry?" wrote:
"Larry" wrote in message ... sherwin dubren wrote: For years now, I have been fighting the problems keeping my 4 stroke Ymmaha T9.9 running. *Even with adding preservatives to the gas tank, replacing the fuel delivery system, and adding a 19 micron filter inline with the gas feed, the tiny jets on this engine occasionally block up. *Nothing helps short of tearing down the carb to clean them. *Most of the modern gas engines have these small jets that continually block up. *Gasahol is mostly to blame either because it dissolves any loose dirt in your system or breaks down into something that eventually blocks the carbs. Now we have an increase of alcohol being pushed by our farmers to 15 per cent instead of the current 10 percent. *This is sure to make the problem worse. *The engine manufacturer's have not come up with a really good solution. *Just band-aid fixes like adding inline filters and preservatives to the gas. *This is taking all the fun out of boating and can even be a safety issue. * * * * * * * * *Sherwin I have fuel infection but that is also susceptible to clogs and failure.. I have been using this in my boat and ATV for years will good results: http://www.seafoamsales.com/motor-treatment.html It's a lot cheaper than Yamaha's version of the same product. That stuff has a good reputation but After putting two cans of the stuff through the fuel system on my bike I still had to have the carbs cleaned. -- Me- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I can understand that. It's not a cure for everything, but it does help. My brother brought an old Honda Gold Wing back to life by running seafpam though it. But agreed. It is still no match for a good carb disasembly and cleaning. |
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YukonBound wrote:
"Larry" wrote in message ... So far, so good in the ATV. That see's the least amount of hours. I only use it to move by boat around my yard and out to the street. The area I store it has a septic tank and my 5000# plus SUV would find the bottom of that fast and kill WAFA and Dummy in the process. Terrible way to disrespect your family. Have you no class at all? You aren't my family, dip****. Good catch that you were one of the named! |
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YukonBound wrote:
"Harry?" wrote in message ... In article , says... "Larry" wrote in message ... So far, so good in the ATV. That see's the least amount of hours. I only use it to move by boat around my yard and out to the street. The area I store it has a septic tank and my 5000# plus SUV would find the bottom of that fast and kill WAFA and Dummy in the process. Terrible way to disrespect your family. Have you no class at all? Little buddy, I've got to tell you, it's looking like you have an infatuation with Larry. Just the reverse ...... I'm constantly feeding off his advances. I fixed your post, moron. |
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Harry  wrote:
On 7/30/10 9:28 AM, YukonBound wrote: "Harry?" wrote in message ... In article , says... "Larry" wrote in message ... So far, so good in the ATV. That see's the least amount of hours. I only use it to move by boat around my yard and out to the street. The area I store it has a septic tank and my 5000# plus SUV would find the bottom of that fast and kill WAFA and Dummy in the process. Terrible way to disrespect your family. Have you no class at all? Little buddy, I've got to tell you, it's looking like you have an infatuation with Larry. Just the reverse Doper...... I'm constantly fending off his advances. You're just encouraging him, Don. Save it for your weekly email updates. |
Gasahol Blues
YukonBound wrote:
"Harry ?" wrote in message ... "Harry ?" wrote in message m... On 7/30/10 9:28 AM, YukonBound wrote: "Harry?" wrote in message ... In article , says... "Larry" wrote in message ... So far, so good in the ATV. That see's the least amount of hours. I only use it to move by boat around my yard and out to the street. The area I store it has a septic tank and my 5000# plus SUV would find the bottom of that fast and kill WAFA and Dummy in the process. Terrible way to disrespect your family. Have you no class at all? Little buddy, I've got to tell you, it's looking like you have an infatuation with Larry. Just the reverse Doper...... I'm constantly fending off his advances. You're just encouraging him, Don. He's just following our lead, brother. You know he can't think for himself. Should we be proud of making Don what he is today? Probably not. -- Me 'make"?? You couldn't make your bed without help. I don't make my bed. Margaret does it, right? |
Gasahol Blues
"Larry" wrote in message ... YukonBound wrote: "Harry ?" wrote in message ... "Harry ?" wrote in message m... On 7/30/10 9:28 AM, YukonBound wrote: "Harry?" wrote in message ... In article , says... "Larry" wrote in message ... So far, so good in the ATV. That see's the least amount of hours. I only use it to move by boat around my yard and out to the street. The area I store it has a septic tank and my 5000# plus SUV would find the bottom of that fast and kill WAFA and Dummy in the process. Terrible way to disrespect your family. Have you no class at all? Little buddy, I've got to tell you, it's looking like you have an infatuation with Larry. Just the reverse Doper...... I'm constantly fending off his advances. You're just encouraging him, Don. He's just following our lead, brother. You know he can't think for himself. Should we be proud of making Don what he is today? Probably not. -- Me 'make"?? You couldn't make your bed without help. I don't make my bed. Margaret does it, right? So... now you're admitting you are the 'Harry' spoofer. What a dingbat! |
Gasahol Blues
YukonBound wrote:
"Larry" wrote in message ... YukonBound wrote: "Harry ?" wrote in message ... "Harry ?" wrote in message m... On 7/30/10 9:28 AM, YukonBound wrote: "Harry?" wrote in message ... In article , says... "Larry" wrote in message ... So far, so good in the ATV. That see's the least amount of hours. I only use it to move by boat around my yard and out to the street. The area I store it has a septic tank and my 5000# plus SUV would find the bottom of that fast and kill WAFA and Dummy in the process. Terrible way to disrespect your family. Have you no class at all? Little buddy, I've got to tell you, it's looking like you have an infatuation with Larry. Just the reverse Doper...... I'm constantly fending off his advances. You're just encouraging him, Don. He's just following our lead, brother. You know he can't think for himself. Should we be proud of making Don what he is today? Probably not. -- Me 'make"?? You couldn't make your bed without help. I don't make my bed. Margaret does it, right? So... now you're admitting you are the 'Harry' spoofer. What a dingbat! Dingbat THIS, Harry boy! |
Gasahol Blues
"Larry" wrote in message ... YukonBound wrote: "Larry" wrote in message ... YukonBound wrote: "Harry ?" wrote in message ... "Harry ?" wrote in message m... On 7/30/10 9:28 AM, YukonBound wrote: "Harry?" wrote in message ... In article , says... "Larry" wrote in message ... So far, so good in the ATV. That see's the least amount of hours. I only use it to move by boat around my yard and out to the street. The area I store it has a septic tank and my 5000# plus SUV would find the bottom of that fast and kill WAFA and Dummy in the process. Terrible way to disrespect your family. Have you no class at all? Little buddy, I've got to tell you, it's looking like you have an infatuation with Larry. Just the reverse Doper...... I'm constantly fending off his advances. You're just encouraging him, Don. He's just following our lead, brother. You know he can't think for himself. Should we be proud of making Don what he is today? Probably not. -- Me 'make"?? You couldn't make your bed without help. I don't make my bed. Margaret does it, right? So... now you're admitting you are the 'Harry' spoofer. What a dingbat! Dingbat THIS, Harry boy! Heat getting to you down there... that's a dumb reply. |
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