tax guts GROW the deficit!
 

right wingers say that cutting taxes on the rich is a way to build the
economy.

turns out it doesn't. and it's right wing economists who say
so....while right wing politicians like george bush and mitch mcconell
and the tea baggers sell snake oil, they are bankrupting the american
middle class while bankrolling the rich

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/...deficit/59728/
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezr...vative_el.html

tax guts GROW the deficit!
 

On 15/07/2010 7:54 PM, bpuharic wrote:
right wingers say that cutting taxes on the rich is a way to build the
economy.

turns out it doesn't. and it's right wing economists who say
so....while right wing politicians like george bush and mitch mcconell
and the tea baggers sell snake oil, they are bankrupting the american
middle class while bankrolling the rich

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/...deficit/59728/
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezr...vative_el.html

More Obama covering his ass.

With 650,000 no longer looking for work last month, there are 650,000
fewer taxpayers. Given this has been going on for two years, many
millions have dropped out of the taxpayer base.

Government revenue has plumeted. Even corporate taxes are less as
earnings are generally lower.

But the real cause is he huge trillion dollar per year balloon of
governemnt spending.

Obama doesn't know squat about economics, just how to manage and control
sheep.

--

Government has liberals, idealists and lawyers, but where is the common
sense?

tax guts GROW the deficit!
 

On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 21:00:26 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 15/07/2010 7:54 PM, bpuharic wrote:
right wingers say that cutting taxes on the rich is a way to build the
economy.

turns out it doesn't. and it's right wing economists who say
so....while right wing politicians like george bush and mitch mcconell
and the tea baggers sell snake oil, they are bankrupting the american
middle class while bankrolling the rich

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/...deficit/59728/
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezr...vative_el.html

More Obama covering his ass.

since when do right wing economists cover obama's ass?

oh. since he's black he MUST be a liar...

gotcha


With 650,000 no longer looking for work last month, there are 650,000
fewer taxpayers. Given this has been going on for two years, many
millions have dropped out of the taxpayer base.

thanks to bush's depression


Government revenue has plumeted. Even corporate taxes are less as
earnings are generally lower.

thanks to bush's depression


But the real cause is he huge trillion dollar per year balloon of
governemnt spending.

uh no. bush put the tax cuts in place. if it wasnt for them, the
deficit wouldnt be as large. and right wingers are pushing to continue
the tax cuts though they dont work


Obama doesn't know squat about economics, just how to manage and control
sheep.

and you're a right winger who can't read

tax guts GROW the deficit!
 

"Canuck57" wrote in message
...
On 15/07/2010 7:54 PM, bpuharic wrote:
right wingers say that cutting taxes on the rich is a way to build the
economy.

turns out it doesn't. and it's right wing economists who say
so....while right wing politicians like george bush and mitch mcconell
and the tea baggers sell snake oil, they are bankrupting the american
middle class while bankrolling the rich

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/...deficit/59728/
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezr...vative_el.html

More Obama covering his ass.

With 650,000 no longer looking for work last month, there are 650,000
fewer taxpayers. Given this has been going on for two years, many
millions have dropped out of the taxpayer base.

Government revenue has plumeted. Even corporate taxes are less as
earnings are generally lower.

But the real cause is he huge trillion dollar per year balloon of
governemnt spending.

Obama doesn't know squat about economics, just how to manage and control
sheep.

--

Government has liberals, idealists and lawyers, but where is the common
sense?

You are genetically stupid. That's the only explanation that makes sense. No
one can be deliberately this stupid.

tax guts GROW the deficit!
 

On 15/07/2010 9:08 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 21:00:26 -0600,
wrote:

On 15/07/2010 7:54 PM, bpuharic wrote:
right wingers say that cutting taxes on the rich is a way to build the
economy.

turns out it doesn't. and it's right wing economists who say
so....while right wing politicians like george bush and mitch mcconell
and the tea baggers sell snake oil, they are bankrupting the american
middle class while bankrolling the rich

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/...deficit/59728/
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezr...vative_el.html

More Obama covering his ass.

since when do right wing economists cover obama's ass?

oh. since he's black he MUST be a liar...

gotcha


With 650,000 no longer looking for work last month, there are 650,000
fewer taxpayers. Given this has been going on for two years, many
millions have dropped out of the taxpayer base.

thanks to bush's depression


Government revenue has plumeted. Even corporate taxes are less as
earnings are generally lower.

thanks to bush's depression


But the real cause is he huge trillion dollar per year balloon of
governemnt spending.

uh no. bush put the tax cuts in place. if it wasnt for them, the
deficit wouldnt be as large. and right wingers are pushing to continue
the tax cuts though they dont work


Obama doesn't know squat about economics, just how to manage and control
sheep.

and you're a right winger who can't read

But the reality is Obama has bankrupted the USA and now the taxes are
going to skyrocket.

Look at Japan, the lost decades. Well documented. Obamanomics, Keynes
etc., all a bunch of crap.

--

Government has liberals, idealists and lawyers, but where is the common
sense?

tax guts GROW the deficit!
 

On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 21:21:14 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 15/07/2010 9:08 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 21:00:26 -0600,
wrote:


uh no. bush put the tax cuts in place. if it wasnt for them, the
deficit wouldnt be as large. and right wingers are pushing to continue
the tax cuts though they dont work


Obama doesn't know squat about economics, just how to manage and control
sheep.

and you're a right winger who can't read

But the reality is Obama has bankrupted the USA and now the taxes are
going to skyrocket.

uh no. george bush handed the keys to the economy to his rich friends.
the 2003 and 2006 tax cuts benefited the ultra wealthy. and the
middle class paid for them.


Look at Japan, the lost decades. Well documented. Obamanomics, Keynes
etc., all a bunch of crap.

gee. and how did 30 years of milton friedman work out during the great
depressoin we're in?

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"Canuck57" wrote in message
...
On 15/07/2010 9:08 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 21:00:26 -0600,
wrote:

On 15/07/2010 7:54 PM, bpuharic wrote:
right wingers say that cutting taxes on the rich is a way to build the
economy.

turns out it doesn't. and it's right wing economists who say
so....while right wing politicians like george bush and mitch mcconell
and the tea baggers sell snake oil, they are bankrupting the american
middle class while bankrolling the rich

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/...deficit/59728/
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezr...vative_el.html

More Obama covering his ass.

since when do right wing economists cover obama's ass?

oh. since he's black he MUST be a liar...

gotcha


With 650,000 no longer looking for work last month, there are 650,000
fewer taxpayers. Given this has been going on for two years, many
millions have dropped out of the taxpayer base.

thanks to bush's depression


Government revenue has plumeted. Even corporate taxes are less as
earnings are generally lower.

thanks to bush's depression


But the real cause is he huge trillion dollar per year balloon of
governemnt spending.

uh no. bush put the tax cuts in place. if it wasnt for them, the
deficit wouldnt be as large. and right wingers are pushing to continue
the tax cuts though they dont work


Obama doesn't know squat about economics, just how to manage and control
sheep.

and you're a right winger who can't read

But the reality is Obama has bankrupted the USA and now the taxes are
going to skyrocket.

Look at Japan, the lost decades. Well documented. Obamanomics, Keynes
etc., all a bunch of crap.

--

Government has liberals, idealists and lawyers, but where is the common
sense?

The reality is that you're a moron.

tax guts GROW the deficit!
 

wrote in message
...
On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 23:34:35 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

uh no. george bush handed the keys to the economy to his rich friends.
the 2003 and 2006 tax cuts benefited the ultra wealthy. and the
middle class paid for them.


... and 43% at the bottom don't pay any income taxes.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/...n4945874.shtml

Yeah, the poor people. Sure is easy to blame them! But those rich people,
gotta give them all the breaks.

tax guts GROW the deficit!
 

wrote in message
...
On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 21:00:26 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

With 650,000 no longer looking for work last month, there are 650,000
fewer taxpayers. Given this has been going on for two years, many
millions have dropped out of the taxpayer base.

There are actually a lot fewer taxpayers than that. Because of the gap
at the bottom when the "underemployed" will drop below the threshold
where they pay income tax. It was 43% in 2009, I bet that number will
be well over 50% in the 2010 tax year.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/...n4945874.shtml

I think that is why they want to let the Bush tax cuts expire. They
keep saying this only affects the super rich but it is also a rise of
rates across the board. Everyone's tax bill will go up.

Everyone's? Nope. You're not willing to pay for services.. fine. I am. Just
don't dial 911 and don't use the roads, and to heck with libraries...
they're for poor people. Don't need to worry about fires and paramedics.

tax guts GROW the deficit!
 

wrote in message
...
On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 22:13:26 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 23:34:35 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

uh no. george bush handed the keys to the economy to his rich friends.
the 2003 and 2006 tax cuts benefited the ultra wealthy. and the
middle class paid for them.


... and 43% at the bottom don't pay any income taxes.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/...n4945874.shtml

Yeah, the poor people. Sure is easy to blame them! But those rich people,
gotta give them all the breaks.



Again you miss the point.
If you rescind the Bush tax cuts, you also raise the tax rate of those
people near the bottom. For example the 10% rate is gone, replaced by
15%, the same is true of all the rates.

I have every tax return since 1983 in my files along with the 1040
book. Do we really want to run the numbers for some typical working
class people before and after the current rates came into effect?
I know my taxes are the lowest they have ever been and according to
the people here I am "working class" not "middle class".
My taxes would go up about $4000 if I used the Clinton tax tables.


The Obama plan is to let tax cuts expire for those making over $250K. Do you
make over $250K? If so, then yes, you're taxes will go up. However, the
right wing would like everyone to believe that it will be an across the
board tax increase, which is hogwash (unless the Republicans continue to
obstruct meaningful legislation).

tax guts GROW the deficit!
 

wrote in message
...
On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 22:15:41 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 21:00:26 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

With 650,000 no longer looking for work last month, there are 650,000
fewer taxpayers. Given this has been going on for two years, many
millions have dropped out of the taxpayer base.

There are actually a lot fewer taxpayers than that. Because of the gap
at the bottom when the "underemployed" will drop below the threshold
where they pay income tax. It was 43% in 2009, I bet that number will
be well over 50% in the 2010 tax year.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/...n4945874.shtml

I think that is why they want to let the Bush tax cuts expire. They
keep saying this only affects the super rich but it is also a rise of
rates across the board. Everyone's tax bill will go up.

Everyone's? Nope. You're not willing to pay for services.. fine. I am.
Just
don't dial 911 and don't use the roads, and to heck with libraries...
they're for poor people. Don't need to worry about fires and paramedics.



Everyone will pay, excerpt those below the threshold and that number
will be lower.
I am not worried about paying more, I think our rates are too low but
that is not the way this has been sold. People are being told the Bush
tax cuts only benefited the rich. That is a lie

Sorry, but you're just wrong. See previous comment.

tax guts GROW the deficit!
 

On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:31:54 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 23:34:35 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

uh no. george bush handed the keys to the economy to his rich friends.
the 2003 and 2006 tax cuts benefited the ultra wealthy. and the
middle class paid for them.


... and 43% at the bottom don't pay any income taxes.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/...n4945874.shtml

no FEDERAL income tax. they certainly pay taxes. and in places like
texas, where there's no state income tax, the tax structure is heavily
regressive

tax guts GROW the deficit!
 

On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 01:33:21 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 22:13:26 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 23:34:35 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

uh no. george bush handed the keys to the economy to his rich friends.
the 2003 and 2006 tax cuts benefited the ultra wealthy. and the
middle class paid for them.


... and 43% at the bottom don't pay any income taxes.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/...n4945874.shtml

Yeah, the poor people. Sure is easy to blame them! But those rich people,
gotta give them all the breaks.



Again you miss the point.
If you rescind the Bush tax cuts, you also raise the tax rate of those
people near the bottom. For example the 10% rate is gone, replaced by
15%, the same is true of all the rates.


the bush tax cuts would remain for people earning less than 250K

the rich, who destroyed the economy, would start to pay their fair
missing

tax guts GROW the deficit!
 

On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:14:42 -0400, wrote:


I think that is why they want to let the Bush tax cuts expire. They
keep saying this only affects the super rich but it is also a rise of
rates across the board. Everyone's tax bill will go up.

now let's see...the tax cuts would remain for people making less than
250K. and that would cause their taxes to go up

only the right wingers would be so delusional

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--
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical
minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which
holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd
by the clean end."

wrote in message
...
On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 22:15:41 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 21:00:26 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

With 650,000 no longer looking for work last month, there are 650,000
fewer taxpayers. Given this has been going on for two years, many
millions have dropped out of the taxpayer base.

There are actually a lot fewer taxpayers than that. Because of the gap
at the bottom when the "underemployed" will drop below the threshold
where they pay income tax. It was 43% in 2009, I bet that number will
be well over 50% in the 2010 tax year.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/...n4945874.shtml

I think that is why they want to let the Bush tax cuts expire. They
keep saying this only affects the super rich but it is also a rise of
rates across the board. Everyone's tax bill will go up.

Everyone's? Nope. You're not willing to pay for services.. fine. I am.
Just
don't dial 911 and don't use the roads, and to heck with libraries...
they're for poor people. Don't need to worry about fires and paramedics.



Everyone will pay, excerpt those below the threshold and that number
will be lower.
I am not worried about paying more, I think our rates are too low but
that is not the way this has been sold. People are being told the Bush
tax cuts only benefited the rich. That is a lie

You're conversing with a "social liberal who is also a fiscal conservative".
You haven't a chance at selling her a logical arguement. One or the other of
her bi polar positions won't buy it.

tax guts GROW the deficit!
 

On 7/16/10 8:34 AM, Harold wrote:

"You're conversing with a "social liberal who is also a fiscal
conservative". You haven't a chance at selling her a logical arguement.
One or the other of her bi polar positions won't buy it."
-----

I'd be more concerned about the multiple personality disorder assholes
like you and "Larry", flajim...you know, the ones who either change
their handles here every couple of weeks, or spoof the handles of other
posters. Those are the seriously mentally ill assholes here.

How are flajim and jim doing today, dip****?

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On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 08:34:02 -0400, "Harold"
wrote:

You're conversing with a "social liberal who is also a fiscal conservative".
You haven't a chance at selling her a logical arguement. One or the other of
her bi polar positions won't buy it.

IOw she believes that individuals should be free in their private
lives and in their economic lives

conservatives, OTOH, believe in socialism for the rich and a cop in
every bedroom

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On 7/16/10 8:41 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 08:34:02 -0400, "Harold"
wrote:

You're conversing with a "social liberal who is also a fiscal conservative".
You haven't a chance at selling her a logical arguement. One or the other of
her bi polar positions won't buy it.

IOw she believes that individuals should be free in their private
lives and in their economic lives

conservatives, OTOH, believe in socialism for the rich and a cop in
every bedroom

*Some* of the righties here probably need a cop in their bedroom.

tax guts GROW the deficit!
 

--
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical
minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which
holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd
by the clean end."

"Harry ?" wrote in message
m...
On 7/16/10 8:41 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 08:34:02 -0400, "Harold"
wrote:

You're conversing with a "social liberal who is also a fiscal
conservative".
You haven't a chance at selling her a logical arguement. One or the
other of
her bi polar positions won't buy it.

IOw she believes that individuals should be free in their private
lives and in their economic lives

conservatives, OTOH, believe in socialism for the rich and a cop in
every bedroom

*Some* of the righties here probably need a cop in their bedroom.

You got a bunch of loonies for buddies. Plume, Jps, Sulfuric, and last but
not least Donnie your ball polisher. Did I leave anyone out?

tax guts GROW the deficit!
 

tax guts GROW the deficit!
 

--
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical
minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which
holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd
by the clean end."

"Jim" wrote in message
...
wrote:

I think that is why they want to let the Bush tax cuts expire. They
keep saying this only affects the super rich but it is also a rise of
rates across the board. Everyone's tax bill will go up.

Obviously the Dems will put forward a bill to keep rates the same for
those making less than $250,000. That's an Obama promise.
Then watch the Reps try to block that.
Obama can't lose. Except with the Fox "news" channel viewers.
You're either joking or incredibly naive.

Jim - Sometime politician. Especially when the writing is on the wall.


For the 43% who pay nothing now, a 50% increase won't hurt at all.

tax guts GROW the deficit!
 

On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 08:17:25 -0500, Jim wrote:

wrote:

I think that is why they want to let the Bush tax cuts expire. They
keep saying this only affects the super rich but it is also a rise of
rates across the board. Everyone's tax bill will go up.

Obviously the Dems will put forward a bill to keep rates the same for
those making less than $250,000. That's an Obama promise.
Then watch the Reps try to block that.
Obama can't lose. Except with the Fox "news" channel viewers.
You're either joking or incredibly naive.

Jim - Sometime politician. Especially when the writing is on the wall.


unfortunately the american electorate is as dumb as the proverbial
post. i was listening to NPR the other day. an unemployed guy was
planning to vote for the GOP because he ran out of benefits and they
hadnt been extended.

he was too stupid to realize it was the GOP that torpedeoed them.

fortunately, the electorate blames bush, not obama, for the depression

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On Jul 16, 9:54*am, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 08:17:25 -0500, Jim wrote:
wrote:

I think that is why they want to let the Bush tax cuts expire. They
keep saying this only affects the super rich but it is also a rise of
rates across the board. Everyone's tax bill will go up.

Obviously the Dems will put forward a bill to keep rates the same for
those making less than $250,000. *That's an Obama promise.
Then watch the Reps try to block that.
Obama can't lose. *Except with the Fox "news" channel viewers.
You're either joking or incredibly naive.

Jim - Sometime politician. *Especially when the writing is on the wall..


unfortunately the american electorate is as dumb as the proverbial
post.

Correct, Obama is the proof of that.

fortunately, the electorate blames bush, not obama, for the depression

If true, more proof. Huh.

tax guts GROW the deficit!
 

On 7/16/10 1:37 PM, Jack wrote:
On Jul 16, 9:54 am, wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 08:17:25 -0500, wrote:
wrote:

I think that is why they want to let the Bush tax cuts expire. They
keep saying this only affects the super rich but it is also a rise of
rates across the board. Everyone's tax bill will go up.

Obviously the Dems will put forward a bill to keep rates the same for
those making less than $250,000. That's an Obama promise.
Then watch the Reps try to block that.
Obama can't lose. Except with the Fox "news" channel viewers.
You're either joking or incredibly naive.

Jim - Sometime politician. Especially when the writing is on the wall.


unfortunately the american electorate is as dumb as the proverbial
post.

Correct, Obama is the proof of that.



Jackoff believes that john "i was for it before I was against it" of
senilityville and sarah "yes I am as dumb as a doorknob but I do rile up
the base" palin would have been better.

tax guts GROW the deficit!
 

In article ,
says...

On 7/16/10 1:37 PM, Jack wrote:
On Jul 16, 9:54 am, wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 08:17:25 -0500, wrote:
wrote:

I think that is why they want to let the Bush tax cuts expire. They
keep saying this only affects the super rich but it is also a rise of
rates across the board. Everyone's tax bill will go up.

Obviously the Dems will put forward a bill to keep rates the same for
those making less than $250,000. That's an Obama promise.
Then watch the Reps try to block that.
Obama can't lose. Except with the Fox "news" channel viewers.
You're either joking or incredibly naive.

Jim - Sometime politician. Especially when the writing is on the wall.


unfortunately the american electorate is as dumb as the proverbial
post.

Correct, Obama is the proof of that.



Jackoff believes that john "i was for it before I was against it" of
senilityville and sarah "yes I am as dumb as a doorknob but I do rile up
the base" palin would have been better.

Harry, fat buddy, wasn't it John Kerry, a 'merican democrat who said "I
was for it before I was against it"?

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On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 10:37:14 -0700 (PDT), Jack
wrote:

On Jul 16, 9:54*am, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 08:17:25 -0500, Jim wrote:
wrote:

I think that is why they want to let the Bush tax cuts expire. They
keep saying this only affects the super rich but it is also a rise of
rates across the board. Everyone's tax bill will go up.

Obviously the Dems will put forward a bill to keep rates the same for
those making less than $250,000. *That's an Obama promise.
Then watch the Reps try to block that.
Obama can't lose. *Except with the Fox "news" channel viewers.
You're either joking or incredibly naive.

Jim - Sometime politician. *Especially when the writing is on the wall.


unfortunately the american electorate is as dumb as the proverbial
post.

Correct, Obama is the proof of that.

vs 2 terms of bush? i dont think so!


fortunately, the electorate blames bush, not obama, for the depression

If true, more proof. Huh.

no doubt you say that 'cuz obama's black. no economist blames obama
for the depression. only the right wing racists do

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In article ,
says...


Well, you are wrong, the lower 50% will pay it all. Folks who make over
250,000 aren't going to give anything up for the new taxes, they will
just increase their profits and fees to the rest of us until the whole
tax burden falls completely on the lower 50% of income earners. Do you
really think if you raise corporate taxes they are just gonna' reach
into their pockets and pay the difference? Of course not, they will just
increase rates to make up the full difference, every penny of it. In
theory it may sound good to the truly stupid, but in fact, the whole tax
burden will eventually come from those of us who make less than
250,000...


--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese!

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I am Tosk wrote:
In article ,
says...

Well, you are wrong, the lower 50% will pay it all. Folks who make over
250,000 aren't going to give anything up for the new taxes, they will
just increase their profits and fees to the rest of us until the whole
tax burden falls completely on the lower 50% of income earners. Do you
really think if you raise corporate taxes they are just gonna' reach
into their pockets and pay the difference? Of course not, they will just
increase rates to make up the full difference, every penny of it. In
theory it may sound good to the truly stupid, but in fact, the whole tax
burden will eventually come from those of us who make less than
250,000...


Hey, that gives me an idea.
Raise taxes on the low incomes.
Eliminate taxes on the high incomes.
Then the low incomes won't have money to spend.
But the high incomes will be rolling in dough.
So then they just start giving away stuff to the low incomes.
The low incomes will feel real grateful.
The high incomes will feel real generous.
Very nice feelings all around.
I think that's a good platform for the GOP.
But maybe they already have that, but without the giving stuff away
part. They should adjust that.
I been thinking about all this talk about 43% not paying Fed income tax.
Looks like 50% of all taxpayers have less than $32k income.
But $32k - that's a whole lot of money right there.
Why ain't these cheap *******s paying Fed income tax?
Especially all the ones of them making $10-15k doing them flunky jobs so
they can get their kids fat on junk food and sodee pop.
Then their standard and dependent deductions for expenses adjusts their
gross to nothing, so they skate paying Fed taxes.
What's wrong with these deadbeats?
That's why we should flip the tax structure.
Everybody happier, and healthier kids.
Yep, a nation of boaters.

Jim - Tosk makes see things in a different light.

tax guts GROW the deficit!
 

On Jul 16, 6:34*am, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 01:33:21 -0400, wrote:
On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 22:13:26 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 23:34:35 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

uh no. george bush handed the keys to the economy to his rich friends..
the 2003 and 2006 tax cuts benefited the ultra wealthy. *and the
middle class paid for them.

... and 43% at the bottom don't pay any income taxes.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/...rpeoplesmoney/....

Yeah, the poor people. Sure is easy to blame them! But those rich people,
gotta give them all the breaks.

Again you miss the point.
If you rescind the Bush tax cuts, you also raise the tax rate of those
people near the bottom. For example the 10% rate is gone, replaced by
15%, the same is true of all the rates.

the bush tax cuts would remain for people earning less than 250K

the rich, who destroyed the economy, would start to pay their fair
missing

Someone making 250K is not rich, had nothing to do with the economy
issues, and is already paying more in taxes than others who earn less.

tax guts GROW the deficit!
 

On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 15:22:17 -0700 (PDT), Jack
wrote:

On Jul 16, 6:34*am, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 01:33:21 -0400, wrote:
On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 22:13:26 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


the bush tax cuts would remain for people earning less than 250K

the rich, who destroyed the economy, would start to pay their fair
missing

Someone making 250K is not rich, had nothing to do with the economy
issues, and is already paying more in taxes than others who earn less.

someone's gotta pay. making the victims pay, like the right wing wants
to do, is hardly the way to go.

and the right hasn't figured out that the middle class drives the
economy. not the rich

tax guts GROW the deficit!
 

On Jul 16, 6:33*pm, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 15:22:17 -0700 (PDT), Jack
wrote:

On Jul 16, 6:34*am, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 01:33:21 -0400, wrote:
On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 22:13:26 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

the bush tax cuts would remain for people earning less than 250K

the rich, who destroyed the economy, would start to pay their fair
missing

Someone making 250K is not rich, had nothing to do with the economy
issues, and is already paying more in taxes than others who earn less.

someone's gotta pay. making the victims pay, like the right wing wants
to do, is hardly the way to go.

The person I described is a victim as well. And, they are already
paying more.

It's the ultra-wealthy you are wanting to target. Income tax rates
isn't going to touch them, but that doesn't fit in your rant.

tax guts GROW the deficit!
 

On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 17:46:30 -0700 (PDT), Jack
wrote:

On Jul 16, 6:33*pm, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 15:22:17 -0700 (PDT), Jack
wrote:

On Jul 16, 6:34*am, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 01:33:21 -0400, wrote:
On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 22:13:26 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

the bush tax cuts would remain for people earning less than 250K

the rich, who destroyed the economy, would start to pay their fair
missing

Someone making 250K is not rich, had nothing to do with the economy
issues, and is already paying more in taxes than others who earn less.

someone's gotta pay. making the victims pay, like the right wing wants
to do, is hardly the way to go.

The person I described is a victim as well. And, they are already
paying more.

actually they're not paying more. the US federal tax code is VERY
SLIGHTLY progressive. and they're certainly not a victim like someone
making the median income in this country of 60K


It's the ultra-wealthy you are wanting to target. Income tax rates
isn't going to touch them, but that doesn't fit in your rant.

again, someone has to pay. the middle class is tapped out. we need to
double capital gains. but the GOP wont let that happen...and that DOES
fit into your rant

tax guts GROW the deficit!
 

On Jul 16, 9:24*pm, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 17:46:30 -0700 (PDT), Jack
wrote:





On Jul 16, 6:33*pm, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 15:22:17 -0700 (PDT), Jack
wrote:

On Jul 16, 6:34*am, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 01:33:21 -0400, wrote:
On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 22:13:26 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

the bush tax cuts would remain for people earning less than 250K

the rich, who destroyed the economy, would start to pay their fair
missing

Someone making 250K is not rich, had nothing to do with the economy
issues, and is already paying more in taxes than others who earn less..

someone's gotta pay. making the victims pay, like the right wing wants
to do, is hardly the way to go.

The person I described is a victim as well. *And, they are already
paying more.

actually they're not paying more. the US federal tax code is VERY
SLIGHTLY progressive.

Actually they are. A 35% swing isn't "slightly", no matter how you
spin it.

*and they're certainly not a victim like someone
making the median income in this country of 60K

They were victimized proportionally the same amount. Actually,
someone with more investments lost even more, so the less you made the
less you lost.


It's the ultra-wealthy you are wanting to target. *Income tax rates
isn't going to touch them, but that doesn't fit in your rant.

again, someone has to pay.

Therein lies your liberal problem... it's tax, tax, spend, spend...
whatever it takes to buy the votes. Someone else always has to pay.

*the middle class is tapped out. we need to
double capital gains. but the GOP wont let that happen...and that DOES
fit into your rant

For the last four years the house and senate have been under
demoncratic control... but no capital gains change has happened. Look
like the limo libs don't want it either. Else, they could have done
it at any time. Tacked it on to the health care bill, right?

tax guts GROW the deficit!
 

"Jack" wrote in message
...
On Jul 16, 6:34 am, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 01:33:21 -0400, wrote:
On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 22:13:26 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 23:34:35 -0400, bpuharic
wrote:

uh no. george bush handed the keys to the economy to his rich
friends.
the 2003 and 2006 tax cuts benefited the ultra wealthy. and the
middle class paid for them.

... and 43% at the bottom don't pay any income taxes.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/...rpeoplesmoney/...

Yeah, the poor people. Sure is easy to blame them! But those rich
people,
gotta give them all the breaks.

Again you miss the point.
If you rescind the Bush tax cuts, you also raise the tax rate of those
people near the bottom. For example the 10% rate is gone, replaced by
15%, the same is true of all the rates.

the bush tax cuts would remain for people earning less than 250K

the rich, who destroyed the economy, would start to pay their fair
missing

Someone making 250K is not rich, had nothing to do with the economy
issues, and is already paying more in taxes than others who earn less.

So, you make more than $250K? I doubt it.

tax guts GROW the deficit!
 

"Jack" wrote in message
...
On Jul 16, 6:33 pm, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 15:22:17 -0700 (PDT), Jack
wrote:

On Jul 16, 6:34 am, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 01:33:21 -0400, wrote:
On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 22:13:26 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

the bush tax cuts would remain for people earning less than 250K

the rich, who destroyed the economy, would start to pay their fair
missing

Someone making 250K is not rich, had nothing to do with the economy
issues, and is already paying more in taxes than others who earn less.

someone's gotta pay. making the victims pay, like the right wing wants
to do, is hardly the way to go.

The person I described is a victim as well. And, they are already
paying more.

It's the ultra-wealthy you are wanting to target. Income tax rates
isn't going to touch them, but that doesn't fit in your rant.

Why not just tax the poor. They seem pretty good for it... according to the
nuts anyway.

tax guts GROW the deficit!
 

wrote in message
...
On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 23:49:32 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Everyone will pay, excerpt those below the threshold and that number
will be lower.
I am not worried about paying more, I think our rates are too low but
that is not the way this has been sold. People are being told the Bush
tax cuts only benefited the rich. That is a lie

Sorry, but you're just wrong. See previous comment.


Are you talking about "the Bush tax cuts" or some "to be announced"
new plan? We don't have a clue what the new plan will be until it is
passed and signed but we do know what happens if they simply let the
current cuts expire.

It is like the people who are slapping each other on the back over the
Fin Ref without actually knowing what is in the bill. I am sure in a
year or two we will be hearing about bad things that were slipped into
this bill at the last minute, like Bob's rant about the Commodity
"reform" that allowed these problems in the first place.

Which no one is talking about doing. Nice try.

tax guts GROW the deficit!
 

"Jack" wrote in message
...
On Jul 16, 9:54 am, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 08:17:25 -0500, Jim wrote:
wrote:

I think that is why they want to let the Bush tax cuts expire. They
keep saying this only affects the super rich but it is also a rise of
rates across the board. Everyone's tax bill will go up.

Obviously the Dems will put forward a bill to keep rates the same for
those making less than $250,000. That's an Obama promise.
Then watch the Reps try to block that.
Obama can't lose. Except with the Fox "news" channel viewers.
You're either joking or incredibly naive.

Jim - Sometime politician. Especially when the writing is on the wall.


unfortunately the american electorate is as dumb as the proverbial
post.

Correct, Obama is the proof of that.

fortunately, the electorate blames bush, not obama, for the depression

If true, more proof. Huh.


Obama is proof that once in a while, people make the right choice.

tax guts GROW the deficit!
 

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...

"Jack" wrote in message
...
On Jul 16, 6:34 am, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 01:33:21 -0400, wrote:
On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 22:13:26 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 23:34:35 -0400, bpuharic
wrote:

uh no. george bush handed the keys to the economy to his rich
friends.
the 2003 and 2006 tax cuts benefited the ultra wealthy. and the
middle class paid for them.

... and 43% at the bottom don't pay any income taxes.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/...rpeoplesmoney/...

Yeah, the poor people. Sure is easy to blame them! But those rich
people,
gotta give them all the breaks.

Again you miss the point.
If you rescind the Bush tax cuts, you also raise the tax rate of those
people near the bottom. For example the 10% rate is gone, replaced by
15%, the same is true of all the rates.

the bush tax cuts would remain for people earning less than 250K

the rich, who destroyed the economy, would start to pay their fair
missing

Someone making 250K is not rich, had nothing to do with the economy
issues, and is already paying more in taxes than others who earn less.

So, you make more than $250K? I doubt it.



Jerkin those knees again Plume?

--
Jim

tax guts GROW the deficit!
 

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
...
On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 23:49:32 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Everyone will pay, excerpt those below the threshold and that number
will be lower.
I am not worried about paying more, I think our rates are too low but
that is not the way this has been sold. People are being told the Bush
tax cuts only benefited the rich. That is a lie

Sorry, but you're just wrong. See previous comment.


Are you talking about "the Bush tax cuts" or some "to be announced"
new plan? We don't have a clue what the new plan will be until it is
passed and signed but we do know what happens if they simply let the
current cuts expire.

It is like the people who are slapping each other on the back over the
Fin Ref without actually knowing what is in the bill. I am sure in a
year or two we will be hearing about bad things that were slipped into
this bill at the last minute, like Bob's rant about the Commodity
"reform" that allowed these problems in the first place.

Which no one is talking about doing. Nice try.



You don't know that, dippy da plum.

--
Harold

tax guts GROW the deficit!
 

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...

"Jack" wrote in message
...
On Jul 16, 9:54 am, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 08:17:25 -0500, Jim wrote:
wrote:

I think that is why they want to let the Bush tax cuts expire. They
keep saying this only affects the super rich but it is also a rise of
rates across the board. Everyone's tax bill will go up.

Obviously the Dems will put forward a bill to keep rates the same for
those making less than $250,000. That's an Obama promise.
Then watch the Reps try to block that.
Obama can't lose. Except with the Fox "news" channel viewers.
You're either joking or incredibly naive.

Jim - Sometime politician. Especially when the writing is on the wall.


unfortunately the american electorate is as dumb as the proverbial
post.

Correct, Obama is the proof of that.

fortunately, the electorate blames bush, not obama, for the depression

If true, more proof. Huh.


Obama is proof that once in a while, people make the right choice.



You are not only a dumb, stupid, moronic, idiot, you are insane as well. You
needed to know that berore I toss you in the hole again with your buddy
bupic.

--
Harold