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On Jul 16, 9:54 am, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 08:17:25 -0500, Jim wrote:
wrote:

I think that is why they want to let the Bush tax cuts expire. They
keep saying this only affects the super rich but it is also a rise
of
rates across the board. Everyone's tax bill will go up.

Obviously the Dems will put forward a bill to keep rates the same for
those making less than $250,000. That's an Obama promise.
Then watch the Reps try to block that.
Obama can't lose. Except with the Fox "news" channel viewers.
You're either joking or incredibly naive.

Jim - Sometime politician. Especially when the writing is on the
wall.


unfortunately the american electorate is as dumb as the proverbial
post.

Correct, Obama is the proof of that.

fortunately, the electorate blames bush, not obama, for the depression

If true, more proof. Huh.


Obama is proof that once in a while, people make the right choice.



You are not only a dumb, stupid, moronic, idiot, you are insane as well.
You needed to know that berore I toss you in the hole again with your
buddy bupic.

--
Harold

"toss you in the hole again " ???
Why would you want them in with you and the Doper brigade?
You really are infatuated with Ms Plume.

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On Jul 16, 9:54 am, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 08:17:25 -0500, Jim wrote:
wrote:

I think that is why they want to let the Bush tax cuts expire. They
keep saying this only affects the super rich but it is also a rise
of
rates across the board. Everyone's tax bill will go up.

Obviously the Dems will put forward a bill to keep rates the same for
those making less than $250,000. That's an Obama promise.
Then watch the Reps try to block that.
Obama can't lose. Except with the Fox "news" channel viewers.
You're either joking or incredibly naive.

Jim - Sometime politician. Especially when the writing is on the
wall.


unfortunately the american electorate is as dumb as the proverbial
post.

Correct, Obama is the proof of that.

fortunately, the electorate blames bush, not obama, for the depression

If true, more proof. Huh.


Obama is proof that once in a while, people make the right choice.



You are not only a dumb, stupid, moronic, idiot, you are insane as well.
You needed to know that berore I toss you in the hole again with your
buddy bupic.

--
Harold

"toss you in the hole again " ???
Why would you want them in with you and the Doper brigade?
You really are infatuated with Ms Plume.

Did you really attend a vocational school after St. Marys. If so, why did it
take you a week to make a 10 minute diagnosis. Even with the Bob Veila home
handyman wiring job you should have figured it out.




--
Harold

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On Jul 17, 8:41*am, "Harold" wrote:
"YukonBound" wrote in message

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"Jack" wrote in message
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On Jul 16, 9:54 am, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 08:17:25 -0500, Jim wrote:
wrote:

I think that is why they want to let the Bush tax cuts expire. They
keep saying this only affects the super rich but it is also a rise
of
rates across the board. Everyone's tax bill will go up.

Obviously the Dems will put forward a bill to keep rates the same for
those making less than $250,000. *That's an Obama promise.
Then watch the Reps try to block that.
Obama can't lose. *Except with the Fox "news" channel viewers.
You're either joking or incredibly naive.

Jim - Sometime politician. *Especially when the writing is on the
wall.

unfortunately the american electorate is as dumb as the proverbial
post.

Correct, Obama is the proof of that.

fortunately, the electorate blames bush, not obama, for the depression

If true, more proof. *Huh.

Obama is proof that once in a while, people make the right choice.

You are not only a dumb, stupid, moronic, idiot, you are insane as well.
You needed to know that berore I toss you in the hole again with your
buddy bupic.

--
Harold

"toss you in the hole again " ???
Why would you want them in with you and the Doper brigade?
You really are infatuated with Ms Plume.

Did you really attend a vocational school after St. Marys. If so, why did it
take you a week to make a 10 minute diagnosis. Even with the Bob Veila home
handyman wiring job you should have figured it out.


How dumb do you have to be to think black would be positive in a DC
wiring scheme?

Geez... my dog is smarter than that.

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On Jul 16, 6:34 am, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 01:33:21 -0400, wrote:
On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 22:13:26 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

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On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 23:34:35 -0400, bpuharic
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uh no. george bush handed the keys to the economy to his rich
friends.
the 2003 and 2006 tax cuts benefited the ultra wealthy. and the
middle class paid for them.

... and 43% at the bottom don't pay any income taxes.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/...rpeoplesmoney/...

Yeah, the poor people. Sure is easy to blame them! But those rich
people,
gotta give them all the breaks.

Again you miss the point.
If you rescind the Bush tax cuts, you also raise the tax rate of those
people near the bottom. For example the 10% rate is gone, replaced by
15%, the same is true of all the rates.

the bush tax cuts would remain for people earning less than 250K

the rich, who destroyed the economy, would start to pay their fair
missing

Someone making 250K is not rich, had nothing to do with the economy
issues, and is already paying more in taxes than others who earn less.

So, you make more than $250K? I doubt it.



Jerkin those knees again Plume?

--
Jim


Sounds like you're not too well off...

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On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 22:10:17 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 23:49:32 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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Everyone will pay, excerpt those below the threshold and that number
will be lower.
I am not worried about paying more, I think our rates are too low but
that is not the way this has been sold. People are being told the Bush
tax cuts only benefited the rich. That is a lie

Sorry, but you're just wrong. See previous comment.


Are you talking about "the Bush tax cuts" or some "to be announced"
new plan? We don't have a clue what the new plan will be until it is
passed and signed but we do know what happens if they simply let the
current cuts expire.

It is like the people who are slapping each other on the back over the
Fin Ref without actually knowing what is in the bill. I am sure in a
year or two we will be hearing about bad things that were slipped into
this bill at the last minute, like Bob's rant about the Commodity
"reform" that allowed these problems in the first place.

Which no one is talking about doing. Nice try.


You were talking about the Bush tax cuts and part of that is the 10%
bracket that will also go away if congress simply lets them expire.
Anything else is new legislation we have not seen.
I was just giving you examples of other unseen legislation that did
not actually do what it said it would.

Unseen? Even the somewhat financial reform legislation that passed is better
than what was there before.

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"Harold" wrote in message
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On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 23:49:32 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Everyone will pay, excerpt those below the threshold and that number
will be lower.
I am not worried about paying more, I think our rates are too low but
that is not the way this has been sold. People are being told the Bush
tax cuts only benefited the rich. That is a lie

Sorry, but you're just wrong. See previous comment.


Are you talking about "the Bush tax cuts" or some "to be announced"
new plan? We don't have a clue what the new plan will be until it is
passed and signed but we do know what happens if they simply let the
current cuts expire.

It is like the people who are slapping each other on the back over the
Fin Ref without actually knowing what is in the bill. I am sure in a
year or two we will be hearing about bad things that were slipped into
this bill at the last minute, like Bob's rant about the Commodity
"reform" that allowed these problems in the first place.

Which no one is talking about doing. Nice try.



You don't know that, dippy da plum.

--
Harold


You know very little, apparently.

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"Harold" wrote in message
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"Jack" wrote in message
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On Jul 16, 9:54 am, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 08:17:25 -0500, Jim wrote:
wrote:

I think that is why they want to let the Bush tax cuts expire. They
keep saying this only affects the super rich but it is also a rise
of
rates across the board. Everyone's tax bill will go up.

Obviously the Dems will put forward a bill to keep rates the same for
those making less than $250,000. That's an Obama promise.
Then watch the Reps try to block that.
Obama can't lose. Except with the Fox "news" channel viewers.
You're either joking or incredibly naive.

Jim - Sometime politician. Especially when the writing is on the
wall.


unfortunately the american electorate is as dumb as the proverbial
post.

Correct, Obama is the proof of that.

fortunately, the electorate blames bush, not obama, for the depression

If true, more proof. Huh.


Obama is proof that once in a while, people make the right choice.



You are not only a dumb, stupid, moronic, idiot, you are insane as well.
You needed to know that berore I toss you in the hole again with your
buddy bupic.

--
Harold


You're a moron and a liar. You can help but read my posts. Please plonk me.

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On Jul 17, 8:41 am, "Harold" wrote:
"YukonBound" wrote in message

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"Harold" wrote in message
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"Jack" wrote in message
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On Jul 16, 9:54 am, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 08:17:25 -0500, Jim wrote:
wrote:

I think that is why they want to let the Bush tax cuts expire.
They
keep saying this only affects the super rich but it is also a
rise
of
rates across the board. Everyone's tax bill will go up.

Obviously the Dems will put forward a bill to keep rates the same
for
those making less than $250,000. That's an Obama promise.
Then watch the Reps try to block that.
Obama can't lose. Except with the Fox "news" channel viewers.
You're either joking or incredibly naive.

Jim - Sometime politician. Especially when the writing is on the
wall.

unfortunately the american electorate is as dumb as the proverbial
post.

Correct, Obama is the proof of that.

fortunately, the electorate blames bush, not obama, for the
depression

If true, more proof. Huh.

Obama is proof that once in a while, people make the right choice.

You are not only a dumb, stupid, moronic, idiot, you are insane as
well.
You needed to know that berore I toss you in the hole again with your
buddy bupic.

--
Harold

"toss you in the hole again " ???
Why would you want them in with you and the Doper brigade?
You really are infatuated with Ms Plume.

Did you really attend a vocational school after St. Marys. If so, why did
it
take you a week to make a 10 minute diagnosis. Even with the Bob Veila
home
handyman wiring job you should have figured it out.


How dumb do you have to be to think black would be positive in a DC
wiring scheme?

Geez... my dog is smarter than that.


You're a racis... oh wait. lol

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On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 11:21:12 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

You were talking about the Bush tax cuts and part of that is the 10%
bracket that will also go away if congress simply lets them expire.
Anything else is new legislation we have not seen.
I was just giving you examples of other unseen legislation that did
not actually do what it said it would.

Unseen? Even the somewhat financial reform legislation that passed is
better
than what was there before.

We won't know that until somebody actually reads it and the lawyers
find all the loopholes. The commodity law that opened up all of the
derivative abuse that caused the crash was sold as reform too.

So, you're in agreement with Congressman Boehner then, who advocates a
moratorium on new federal regulation. The do-nothing party.

I guess a consumer protection arm of the Fed isn't a good idea. I guess we
should just let Wall Street run amok.

Why don't you complain about the deficit... here's a nice article.

http://www.thenation.com/article/375...ss-destruction

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On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 11:22:59 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

How dumb do you have to be to think black would be positive in a DC
wiring scheme?

Geez... my dog is smarter than that.


You're a racis... oh wait. lol

I thought it was a Marion Berry joke until I remembered the bad
starter thread.

lol

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On 7/17/10 9:57 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 15:34:06 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

I guess a consumer protection arm of the Fed isn't a good idea. I guess we
should just let Wall Street run amok.

The real question is whether this "Consumer Protection" agency will be
another toothless Brooksley Born type bondoggle.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooksley_Born


The GOP'ers don't want any sort of reform. They like the way it is, with
everyone except the rich getting raped...by the rich.

It's time for heads on pikes.

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On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 15:34:06 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

I guess a consumer protection arm of the Fed isn't a good idea. I guess we
should just let Wall Street run amok.

The real question is whether this "Consumer Protection" agency will be
another toothless Brooksley Born type bondoggle.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooksley_Born

Well, you're the one who's always saying it depends on the regs and they
aren't written yet. Would you have preferred she not even try?

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On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 21:59:45 -0400, Harry ?
wrote:

On 7/17/10 9:57 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 15:34:06 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

I guess a consumer protection arm of the Fed isn't a good idea. I guess
we
should just let Wall Street run amok.

The real question is whether this "Consumer Protection" agency will be
another toothless Brooksley Born type bondoggle.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooksley_Born


The GOP'ers don't want any sort of reform. They like the way it is, with
everyone except the rich getting raped...by the rich.

It's time for heads on pikes.

That may be an oversimplification of a complex issue and using a broad
brush on a far from unified party.

Yes it may be an oversimplification, but it's pretty close to the truth.