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On 7/14/10 3:15 PM, Harold wrote:
"Harry wrote in message
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I know I am going to regret this, but.

I've decided to rip out the last sliding patio door in our house and
replace it with inward opening double French doors and double screen
doors. The part I think I will regret is that I'm convincing myself
that
I ought be the one who removes the old door and installs the new
doors. I
think it is just a hair beyond my carpentry capabilities, so it
would be a
good learning experience for me. If I do that right, why, maybe
I'll
start building rowboats in my spare time!

Anyway, I ordered the doors and trimmings and I'll have about four
weeks
to make up my mind before they arrive. Choice was between wood
doors, clad
wood doors, or fiberglass doors. I ordered the latter.

If you're a believer, pray for me. :)

Check your building codes re inward opening doors.



Are you alluding to some...secret? Most of the front doors I've seen
around here open inward. In fact, most hinged doors, except for screen
doors, open inward.


Flatulent is thinking of commercial establishments.
I don't think so Mr. bowlegged ball licker.

Well...I guess you're not thinking at all then!
Step aside and let the men with some construction experience talk.
Who that be. Ye who has to use two hands to roll a bowling ball.

Maybe our balls are bigger up here.

On 7/14/10 8:49 PM, YukonBound wrote:


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"Harry ?" wrote in message
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On 7/14/10 3:15 PM, Harold wrote:
"Harry wrote in message
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I know I am going to regret this, but.

I've decided to rip out the last sliding patio door in our house
and
replace it with inward opening double French doors and double
screen
doors. The part I think I will regret is that I'm convincing
myself that
I ought be the one who removes the old door and installs the new
doors. I
think it is just a hair beyond my carpentry capabilities, so it
would be a
good learning experience for me. If I do that right, why, maybe
I'll
start building rowboats in my spare time!

Anyway, I ordered the doors and trimmings and I'll have about
four weeks
to make up my mind before they arrive. Choice was between wood
doors, clad
wood doors, or fiberglass doors. I ordered the latter.

If you're a believer, pray for me. :)

Check your building codes re inward opening doors.



Are you alluding to some...secret? Most of the front doors I've
seen around here open inward. In fact, most hinged doors, except
for screen doors, open inward.


Flatulent is thinking of commercial establishments.
I don't think so Mr. bowlegged ball licker.

Well...I guess you're not thinking at all then!
Step aside and let the men with some construction experience talk.
Who that be. Ye who has to use two hands to roll a bowling ball.

Maybe our balls are bigger up here.


Crikey...a mouse has bigger balls than most of the righties who post
here, and that includes our navy boy flajim here.

"A.Boater" wrote in message
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An outward opening door is a good idea in a commercial setting where the
masses tend to trample each other trying to get outside in case of fire or
other alarm.

An outward opening door in a residence would serve little purpose other
than
sweeping visitors off the front stoop into the bushes.

Well, that sounds like a potential advantage.

On Jul 14, 1:38Â*pm, Harry  wrote:
I know I am going to regret this, but…

I’ve decided to rip out the last sliding patio door in our house and
replace it with inward opening double French doors and double screen
doors. Â*The part I think I will regret is that I’m convincing myself
that I ought be the one who removes the old door and installs the new
doors. I think it is just a hair beyond my carpentry capabilities, so it
would be a good learning experience for me. Â*If I do that right, why,
maybe I’ll start building rowboats in my spare time!

Anyway, I ordered the doors and trimmings and I’ll have about four weeks
to make up my mind before they arrive. Choice was between wood doors,
clad wood doors, or fiberglass doors. I ordered the latter.

If you're a believer, pray for me. Â* Â*:)

It's good experience Harry. go for it.

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
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"A.Boater" wrote in message
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An outward opening door is a good idea in a commercial setting where the
masses tend to trample each other trying to get outside in case of fire
or
other alarm.

An outward opening door in a residence would serve little purpose other
than
sweeping visitors off the front stoop into the bushes.

Well, that sounds like a potential advantage.


Back to security.
One disadvantage of outward opening doors... if someone came to your door
and you opened it...he could prevent you from closing and could easily push
his way in.
With an inward door... you could always plant one foot behind the door, and
partially open it, when suspicious characters ( that would be Looney) show
up.

"YukonBound" wrote in message
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"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
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"A.Boater" wrote in message
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An outward opening door is a good idea in a commercial setting where the
masses tend to trample each other trying to get outside in case of fire
or
other alarm.

An outward opening door in a residence would serve little purpose other
than
sweeping visitors off the front stoop into the bushes.

Well, that sounds like a potential advantage.


Back to security.
One disadvantage of outward opening doors... if someone came to your door
and you opened it...he could prevent you from closing and could easily
push his way in.
With an inward door... you could always plant one foot behind the door,
and partially open it, when suspicious characters ( that would be Looney)
show up.

If I had such a door, and someone tried to prevent me from closing it, my
cat would tear his eyes out.

On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 15:10:29 -0400, Harry ?
wrote:

On 7/14/10 3:03 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 14:38:01 -0400, Harry
wrote:

I know I am going to regret this, but…

I’ve decided to rip out the last sliding patio door in our house and
replace it with inward opening double French doors and double screen
doors. The part I think I will regret is that I’m convincing myself
that I ought be the one who removes the old door and installs the new
doors. I think it is just a hair beyond my carpentry capabilities, so it
would be a good learning experience for me. If I do that right, why,
maybe I’ll start building rowboats in my spare time!

Anyway, I ordered the doors and trimmings and I’ll have about four weeks
to make up my mind before they arrive. Choice was between wood doors,
clad wood doors, or fiberglass doors. I ordered the latter.

If you're a believer, pray for me. :)


We went with Andersen 400 Frenchwood sliders. They look like french
doors but still slide.

The real trick with anything like this is getting the rough opening
right and bucking the door in.


I wanted the french doors so we could get items wider than a single door
in or out of the house. It's only a 60" opening, in total, so with only
one side opening, the actual space available is less than 30".

If I get this door in myself, I can just hear my wife saying, "Hey...how
about building this greenhouse, pergola, whatever..."


Even if you're reasonably handy, I'd still recommend having a
carpenter install. I've built a good many things that came out square
but getting doors straight, especially french doors, requires a bit of
art in addition to skill.

I expect you had the doors ordered prehung based on the opening, eh?

Whatever mistake you make you'll live with for years to come. If the
carpenter ****s up, you can be ****ed at him and ask him to fix it.

On 7/14/10 10:29 PM, YukonBound wrote:


"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
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"A.Boater" wrote in message
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An outward opening door is a good idea in a commercial setting where the
masses tend to trample each other trying to get outside in case of
fire or
other alarm.

An outward opening door in a residence would serve little purpose
other than
sweeping visitors off the front stoop into the bushes.

Well, that sounds like a potential advantage.


Back to security.
One disadvantage of outward opening doors... if someone came to your
door and you opened it...he could prevent you from closing and could
easily push his way in.
With an inward door... you could always plant one foot behind the door,
and partially open it, when suspicious characters ( that would be
Looney) show up.

And that leaves your hand free for your pistola, in case a looney steps
over the threshold and actually enters the premises without permission.
The force of the blast would push the intruder back out, maybe, saving
you from having to mop up the blood from your nicely finished interior
floor.

On 7/15/10 1:50 AM, jps wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 15:10:29 -0400, Harry
wrote:

On 7/14/10 3:03 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 14:38:01 -0400, Harry
wrote:

I know I am going to regret this, but…

I’ve decided to rip out the last sliding patio door in our house and
replace it with inward opening double French doors and double screen
doors. The part I think I will regret is that I’m convincing myself
that I ought be the one who removes the old door and installs the new
doors. I think it is just a hair beyond my carpentry capabilities, so it
would be a good learning experience for me. If I do that right, why,
maybe I’ll start building rowboats in my spare time!

Anyway, I ordered the doors and trimmings and I’ll have about four weeks
to make up my mind before they arrive. Choice was between wood doors,
clad wood doors, or fiberglass doors. I ordered the latter.

If you're a believer, pray for me. :)


We went with Andersen 400 Frenchwood sliders. They look like french
doors but still slide.

The real trick with anything like this is getting the rough opening
right and bucking the door in.


I wanted the french doors so we could get items wider than a single door
in or out of the house. It's only a 60" opening, in total, so with only
one side opening, the actual space available is less than 30".

If I get this door in myself, I can just hear my wife saying, "Hey...how
about building this greenhouse, pergola, whatever..."


Even if you're reasonably handy, I'd still recommend having a
carpenter install. I've built a good many things that came out square
but getting doors straight, especially french doors, requires a bit of
art in addition to skill.

I expect you had the doors ordered prehung based on the opening, eh?

Whatever mistake you make you'll live with for years to come. If the
carpenter ****s up, you can be ****ed at him and ask him to fix it.

That's the thought flashing around my synapses. The company from which I
ordered the doors will remove the old slider and install the new door
set for $500. I am tempted.

In article ,
says...

"YukonBound" wrote in message
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In article ,
says...

On 7/14/10 2:54 PM, YukonBound wrote:
In ,
says...

I know I am going to regret this, but?

I?ve decided to rip out the last sliding patio door in our house and
replace it with inward opening double French doors and double screen
doors. The part I think I will regret is that I?m convincing myself
that I ought be the one who removes the old door and installs the new
doors. I think it is just a hair beyond my carpentry capabilities, so
it
would be a good learning experience for me. If I do that right, why,
maybe I?ll start building rowboats in my spare time!

Anyway, I ordered the doors and trimmings and I?ll have about four
weeks
to make up my mind before they arrive. Choice was between wood doors,
clad wood doors, or fiberglass doors. I ordered the latter.

If you're a believer, pray for me. :)

I'm going to finish painting my house. Hopefully I'll get it done this
year. The trouble is, by the time I finish, the place where I started
will be three years old! My son's no help at all, I'm afraid he'd be
drunk and falling off the ladder, etc.

You don't really think that anyone believes you are Don when you spoof
his ID, do you? Well, maybe a few of the right-wing retardos here might
believe it...

Do you want me to post my address in Halifax as proof?


Looney...you are a lonely, pathetic individual.
There must be a teeny-bopper arm you can break somewhere.

Now who is "Looney"??? That must be about the fourth wrong person
you've tried to say I am, spoofer.