"Harry ?" wrote in message
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On 7/14/10 3:15 PM, Harold wrote:
"Harry wrote in message
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I know I am going to regret this, but.

I've decided to rip out the last sliding patio door in our house and
replace it with inward opening double French doors and double screen
doors. The part I think I will regret is that I'm convincing myself
that
I ought be the one who removes the old door and installs the new doors.
I
think it is just a hair beyond my carpentry capabilities, so it would be
a
good learning experience for me. If I do that right, why, maybe I'll
start building rowboats in my spare time!

Anyway, I ordered the doors and trimmings and I'll have about four weeks
to make up my mind before they arrive. Choice was between wood doors,
clad
wood doors, or fiberglass doors. I ordered the latter.

If you're a believer, pray for me. :)

Check your building codes re inward opening doors.



Are you alluding to some...secret? Most of the front doors I've seen
around here open inward. In fact, most hinged doors, except for screen
doors, open inward.

Codes may have changed. They did in Florida. Ask Eisboch what failed and
cost him over 100k in damages.

On 7/14/10 3:27 PM, Harold wrote:
"Harry wrote in message
...
On 7/14/10 3:15 PM, Harold wrote:
"Harry wrote in message
...
I know I am going to regret this, but.

I've decided to rip out the last sliding patio door in our house and
replace it with inward opening double French doors and double screen
doors. The part I think I will regret is that I'm convincing myself
that
I ought be the one who removes the old door and installs the new doors.
I
think it is just a hair beyond my carpentry capabilities, so it would be
a
good learning experience for me. If I do that right, why, maybe I'll
start building rowboats in my spare time!

Anyway, I ordered the doors and trimmings and I'll have about four weeks
to make up my mind before they arrive. Choice was between wood doors,
clad
wood doors, or fiberglass doors. I ordered the latter.

If you're a believer, pray for me. :)

Check your building codes re inward opening doors.



Are you alluding to some...secret? Most of the front doors I've seen
around here open inward. In fact, most hinged doors, except for screen
doors, open inward.

Codes may have changed. They did in Florida. Ask Eisboch what failed and
cost him over 100k in damages.




In all the houses I've lived in, I've never had an exterior door that
opened outward, except for screen doors or storm doors. I think "crank"
windows, though, have to open outward.

"Harry " wrote in message
news
On 7/14/10 3:27 PM, Harold wrote:
"Harry wrote in message
...
On 7/14/10 3:15 PM, Harold wrote:
"Harry wrote in message
...
I know I am going to regret this, but.

I've decided to rip out the last sliding patio door in our house and
replace it with inward opening double French doors and double screen
doors. The part I think I will regret is that I'm convincing myself
that
I ought be the one who removes the old door and installs the new
doors.
I
think it is just a hair beyond my carpentry capabilities, so it would
be
a
good learning experience for me. If I do that right, why, maybe I'll
start building rowboats in my spare time!

Anyway, I ordered the doors and trimmings and I'll have about four
weeks
to make up my mind before they arrive. Choice was between wood doors,
clad
wood doors, or fiberglass doors. I ordered the latter.

If you're a believer, pray for me. :)

Check your building codes re inward opening doors.



Are you alluding to some...secret? Most of the front doors I've seen
around here open inward. In fact, most hinged doors, except for screen
doors, open inward.

Codes may have changed. They did in Florida. Ask Eisboch what failed and
cost him over 100k in damages.




In all the houses I've lived in, I've never had an exterior door that
opened outward, except for screen doors or storm doors. I think "crank"
windows, though, have to open outward.

Good grief... why would anyone have an outward opening door, except for a
screen door? Even trailer homes open inward. I don't think I've ever see one
that opened outward on a residential home. They only have them on commercial
property for safety issues, e.g., quick exit.

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
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"Harry " wrote in message
news
On 7/14/10 3:27 PM, Harold wrote:
"Harry wrote in message
...
On 7/14/10 3:15 PM, Harold wrote:
"Harry wrote in message
...
I know I am going to regret this, but.

I've decided to rip out the last sliding patio door in our house and
replace it with inward opening double French doors and double screen
doors. The part I think I will regret is that I'm convincing myself
that
I ought be the one who removes the old door and installs the new
doors.
I
think it is just a hair beyond my carpentry capabilities, so it would
be
a
good learning experience for me. If I do that right, why, maybe I'll
start building rowboats in my spare time!

Anyway, I ordered the doors and trimmings and I'll have about four
weeks
to make up my mind before they arrive. Choice was between wood doors,
clad
wood doors, or fiberglass doors. I ordered the latter.

If you're a believer, pray for me. :)

Check your building codes re inward opening doors.



Are you alluding to some...secret? Most of the front doors I've seen
around here open inward. In fact, most hinged doors, except for screen
doors, open inward.

Codes may have changed. They did in Florida. Ask Eisboch what failed and
cost him over 100k in damages.




In all the houses I've lived in, I've never had an exterior door that
opened outward, except for screen doors or storm doors. I think "crank"
windows, though, have to open outward.

Good grief... why would anyone have an outward opening door, except for a
screen door? Even trailer homes open inward. I don't think I've ever see
one that opened outward on a residential home. They only have them on
commercial property for safety issues, e.g., quick exit.


They might be of some advantage if you lived in a very cold... windy
area.... or in a high crime area.
A metal outward opening door would be much harder to 'kick in'.

"YukonBound" wrote in message
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"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
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"Harry ?" wrote in message
news
On 7/14/10 3:27 PM, Harold wrote:
"Harry wrote in message
...
On 7/14/10 3:15 PM, Harold wrote:
"Harry wrote in message
...
I know I am going to regret this, but.

I've decided to rip out the last sliding patio door in our house and
replace it with inward opening double French doors and double screen
doors. The part I think I will regret is that I'm convincing myself
that
I ought be the one who removes the old door and installs the new
doors.
I
think it is just a hair beyond my carpentry capabilities, so it
would be
a
good learning experience for me. If I do that right, why, maybe
I'll
start building rowboats in my spare time!

Anyway, I ordered the doors and trimmings and I'll have about four
weeks
to make up my mind before they arrive. Choice was between wood
doors,
clad
wood doors, or fiberglass doors. I ordered the latter.

If you're a believer, pray for me. :)

Check your building codes re inward opening doors.



Are you alluding to some...secret? Most of the front doors I've seen
around here open inward. In fact, most hinged doors, except for screen
doors, open inward.

Codes may have changed. They did in Florida. Ask Eisboch what failed
and
cost him over 100k in damages.




In all the houses I've lived in, I've never had an exterior door that
opened outward, except for screen doors or storm doors. I think "crank"
windows, though, have to open outward.

Good grief... why would anyone have an outward opening door, except for a
screen door? Even trailer homes open inward. I don't think I've ever see
one that opened outward on a residential home. They only have them on
commercial property for safety issues, e.g., quick exit.


They might be of some advantage if you lived in a very cold... windy
area.... or in a high crime area.
A metal outward opening door would be much harder to 'kick in'.

Wouldn't a door that's harder to kick in, be harder to blow in? Places where
it snows might find an outward opening door inconvenient though. Also inward
opening doors use up some of the valuable interior square footage that's
worth what? $200 per.
All my exterior doors are steel. Only the front door opens inward. I put a
good quality storm door on it. Of course it gets a bit windier here, at
times, than most other areas.

I spent a couple of minutes looking for codes that applied to innies and
outies and came up short. So I guess that it's left up to individuals to
decide what they want.

"YukonBound" wrote in message
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"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
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"Harry " wrote in message
news
On 7/14/10 3:27 PM, Harold wrote:
"Harry wrote in message
...
On 7/14/10 3:15 PM, Harold wrote:
"Harry wrote in message
...
I know I am going to regret this, but.

I've decided to rip out the last sliding patio door in our house and
replace it with inward opening double French doors and double screen
doors. The part I think I will regret is that I'm convincing myself
that
I ought be the one who removes the old door and installs the new
doors.
I
think it is just a hair beyond my carpentry capabilities, so it
would be
a
good learning experience for me. If I do that right, why, maybe
I'll
start building rowboats in my spare time!

Anyway, I ordered the doors and trimmings and I'll have about four
weeks
to make up my mind before they arrive. Choice was between wood
doors,
clad
wood doors, or fiberglass doors. I ordered the latter.

If you're a believer, pray for me. :)

Check your building codes re inward opening doors.



Are you alluding to some...secret? Most of the front doors I've seen
around here open inward. In fact, most hinged doors, except for screen
doors, open inward.

Codes may have changed. They did in Florida. Ask Eisboch what failed
and
cost him over 100k in damages.




In all the houses I've lived in, I've never had an exterior door that
opened outward, except for screen doors or storm doors. I think "crank"
windows, though, have to open outward.

Good grief... why would anyone have an outward opening door, except for a
screen door? Even trailer homes open inward. I don't think I've ever see
one that opened outward on a residential home. They only have them on
commercial property for safety issues, e.g., quick exit.


They might be of some advantage if you lived in a very cold... windy
area.... or in a high crime area.
A metal outward opening door would be much harder to 'kick in'.

Certainly true, but typically they're not used in residential areas. You
have to secure the hinges for example. Maybe "Harold" lives in a high crime
area.

"A.Boater" wrote in message
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An outward opening door is a good idea in a commercial setting where the
masses tend to trample each other trying to get outside in case of fire or
other alarm.

An outward opening door in a residence would serve little purpose other
than
sweeping visitors off the front stoop into the bushes.

Well, that sounds like a potential advantage.

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
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"A.Boater" wrote in message
...
An outward opening door is a good idea in a commercial setting where the
masses tend to trample each other trying to get outside in case of fire
or
other alarm.

An outward opening door in a residence would serve little purpose other
than
sweeping visitors off the front stoop into the bushes.

Well, that sounds like a potential advantage.


Back to security.
One disadvantage of outward opening doors... if someone came to your door
and you opened it...he could prevent you from closing and could easily push
his way in.
With an inward door... you could always plant one foot behind the door, and
partially open it, when suspicious characters ( that would be Looney) show
up.

"YukonBound" wrote in message
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"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...

"A.Boater" wrote in message
...
An outward opening door is a good idea in a commercial setting where the
masses tend to trample each other trying to get outside in case of fire
or
other alarm.

An outward opening door in a residence would serve little purpose other
than
sweeping visitors off the front stoop into the bushes.

Well, that sounds like a potential advantage.


Back to security.
One disadvantage of outward opening doors... if someone came to your door
and you opened it...he could prevent you from closing and could easily
push his way in.
With an inward door... you could always plant one foot behind the door,
and partially open it, when suspicious characters ( that would be Looney)
show up.

If I had such a door, and someone tried to prevent me from closing it, my
cat would tear his eyes out.

On 7/14/10 10:29 PM, YukonBound wrote:


"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...

"A.Boater" wrote in message
...
An outward opening door is a good idea in a commercial setting where the
masses tend to trample each other trying to get outside in case of
fire or
other alarm.

An outward opening door in a residence would serve little purpose
other than
sweeping visitors off the front stoop into the bushes.

Well, that sounds like a potential advantage.


Back to security.
One disadvantage of outward opening doors... if someone came to your
door and you opened it...he could prevent you from closing and could
easily push his way in.
With an inward door... you could always plant one foot behind the door,
and partially open it, when suspicious characters ( that would be
Looney) show up.

And that leaves your hand free for your pistola, in case a looney steps
over the threshold and actually enters the premises without permission.
The force of the blast would push the intruder back out, maybe, saving
you from having to mop up the blood from your nicely finished interior
floor.