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So, who here fell for the latest GOP bullshit on the Jones Act?
On 02/07/2010 3:10 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 13:27:02 -0400, "Harold" wrote: wrote in message ... On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 11:01:02 -0600, wrote: actually it did. the economy was growing. now that the money is spent, and YOUR view is becoming dominant, the economy is dying. welcome to 1929 courtesy of the right wing That this despression is about debtors not paying their bills and that includes Obama/Democrat congress. Debt whores are destroying the worlds economic system, and #1 debtor in the world is now Obama. Spent more debt money than any other human that ever lived. we need to spend MORE to undo the right wing damage. otherwise we'll never dig ourselves out of this hole the right put us in Where is the money going to come from? The well is dry. cut defense spending by 150B...as conservatives have even recommended... That doesn't even pay the interes ton Obama's $3 trillion. Try hacking $1.5 trillion (and rising). That is where you break even. borrow even more and use it to pump up the economy. Tried that, does not work. Reagan did better, in less taxes. His only mistake was not shrinking government to fit. force companies to distribute productivy increases to their workers instead of paying dividends to give the middle class a pay increase to SPEND What increases? GM went bankrupt sucking over $177 billion in wealth down the sewer. (not including GMAC) and implement tax cuts for the MIDDLE CLASS, not the rich, like the GOP has been doing for 30 years Funny, finally got around to Reaganomics. Took about 10 months and the recession ended. But given the government debt/deficit, hacking away at government waste with a chain saw is also needed. -- We all work for government, they ceased working for us a long time ago. |
So, who here fell for the latest GOP bullshit on the Jones Act?
On 02/07/2010 3:14 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 11:33:59 -0600, wrote: On 02/07/2010 11:10 AM, bpuharic wrote: On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 11:01:02 -0600, wrote: You mean intellectually stupid like nails. Been 22 months since Obama was elected, 18 months since he took office, $3 trillion in debt ago. amazing how much damage the right wing did to the US economy. it's been 18 months and still we're in a depression. it's getting worse because there's serious talk of major govt spending cuts...just like the 1930's. we can see the effects of what canuck advocates. What? I have money so I am supposed to invest it in a loser deal? Pull your head out of your arse. Nothing to stop your sorry ass from putting your money down. Other than perhaps you are broke, in debt up to your eyeeballs and in arrears. meaninjgless babbling. we're broke. and your recommendation? make us BROKER!! more unemployed...more deflation... bail out BP and stick the taxpayer with the billl... Investors are no different than workers bull****. right now their tax rate is 15%. no taxpayer has a rate that low. . They don't go to work for nothing or to loose. Governemtn wants to f- things up, no problem we will retire the cash to the sidelines or into some other non-domestic venture. right now the problem is the MIDDLE CLASS is not spending. **** the rich. they've had their day in the sun. they stole everything not nailed down and stuck the middle class with the bill you right wingers cant remember YESTERDAY. When does it become Obama's problem? 2369? it may never be possible to undo the damage the right wing did. You are right in that the tipping point of US debt may have been exceeded and that the US economy and currency is bankrupt. If so, look to 3rd world status in months not years. but the rich will do very well if the GOP gets back in actually it did. the economy was growing. now that the money is spent, and YOUR view is becoming dominant, the economy is dying. welcome to 1929 courtesy of the right wing Welcome to 1870... Some stats are now worse than 1929. yep. courtesy of the right wing Think as you will. I believe liberal debt, liberal corruption, liberal bailouts, liberal waste all made this happen. Cut the waste and corruption leaving peole with more of their own money and halting the debt spiral is the only way out. The longer the idiots wait to see reality, the worse it will get. we need to spend MORE to undo the right wing damage. otherwise we'll never dig ourselves out of this hole the right put us in You can't spend your way out of debt. ?? sure you can. in fact it's the ONLY way to get out of debt. if NO ONE SPENDS then companies dont need to create jobs It is why you are a debtor. what do you think companies are going to do? make **** and let it sit in warehouses? Nope, waste of capital to do so. where did you learn economics? culinary arts school? Reading books. I started investing in 1984. Quickly became apparent why rich were rich and poor were poor and I decided I was going to cross the street. And did. Those old fashioned sayings like save for a rainy day, they were ace on. Rich are Rich because: 1) They never borrow money to spend on "stuff" that does not make them money. 2) They tend NOT to have personal debt. 3) They have a non-fad and realistic view of the markets. Well honed in their areas. 4) They think for themselves. 5) Unless a house of large value, they always spend less than they make. 6) They invest heavily in themselves to understand their enviroments. Thats the secret summary. The rest is as simple as buy low sell high. And I smell a buying opportunity in maing about September or October. But time will tell, Obama can do a lot of damage between now and then. -- We all work for government, they ceased working for us a long time ago. |
So, who here fell for the latest GOP bullshit on the Jones Act?
On 02/07/2010 1:32 PM, Harold wrote:
wrote in message ... On 02/07/2010 12:28 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: wrote in message ... On 02/07/2010 11:05 AM, nom=de=plume wrote: wrote in message ... On 02/07/2010 5:51 AM, bpuharic wrote: On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 06:24:11 -0400, Harry wrote: Keeping Up With the Jones Act — By Kevin Drum, Mother Jones | Fri Jul. 2, 2010 3:00 AM PDT Have you heard of the Jones Act? Unless you read Newsmax and listen to a lot of right-wing radio, probably not. It's an obscure statute that's been on the books since 1920, and it requires all shipping between U.S. ports or in U.S. coastal waters to be carried in U.S.-flag ships that are owned and crewed by U.S. citizens. So why are conservatives suddenly up in arms about it? Because, they claim, it's a labor-inspired rule that's obstructing aid to a Gulf Coast the right wing loves BP oil as shown by their recent apology. they defend wall street and the banks as shown by their recent meeting with top level hedge fund CEO's they HATE the middle class as shown by their paranoid conspiracy theories. the GOP needs to be destroyed Actually, did you see this months employment numbers... ya sure bet Obama wants to brag about it going down to 9.5%... But 658,000 people gave up looking for work.... 7.9 million fewer people at work in private business since this began. 14.6 million people looking for work. Last months prop up numbers of the 400,000 census workers are again looking for work. Monthly job cuts are up to 125,000 for the month was partially offset by private job hires iof 33,000. More than 525,000 new unemployed started to look for work last month to replace the lost job. How is Obamanonics really working far ya? -- We all work for government, they ceased working for us a long time ago. It's betting than bleeding 700K+ per month. Of course, you'd rather see the census working unemployed and people continue to be so disheartened that they don't even bother to look for work. How's that lack of compassion workin out for you. Why don't you lie some more. You've got Palin as a role model. LMAO. It is like a bleeding person, after you have lost 4 pints you don't have as much to give so things are better. Hahahaha. I have more compassion than a greedy debtor whore. As I provide sustainable moves. Debtors, me me me me want debt or I am a ****ed ass hole are greedy, selfish short sighted jerks. But the lessons are being taught. Just hasn't gotten around to you yet. -- We all work for government, they ceased working for us a long time ago. Good grief! Not only are you stupid, but you have built-in Turret's Stupid Syndrome. Don't know what that is. But coming from a racist parrot...worth ignoring. -- We all work for government, they ceased working for us a long time ago. Actually she did us an enourmous favor. If you don't think she's a horrible little bitch now, you will after you see this video. Remember her statement "Good grief! Not only are you stupid, but you have built-in Turret's Stupid Syndrome." I think she even tops Harry at his worst moment. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrv9d...layer_embedded Actually, I have been known to call her a skank. This just fortifies it. -- We all work for government, they ceased working for us a long time ago. |
So, who here fell for the latest GOP bullshit on the Jones Act?
On 7/2/10 7:54 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 02/07/2010 1:32 PM, Harold wrote: wrote in message ... On 02/07/2010 12:28 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: wrote in message ... On 02/07/2010 11:05 AM, nom=de=plume wrote: wrote in message ... On 02/07/2010 5:51 AM, bpuharic wrote: On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 06:24:11 -0400, Harry wrote: Keeping Up With the Jones Act — By Kevin Drum, Mother Jones | Fri Jul. 2, 2010 3:00 AM PDT Have you heard of the Jones Act? Unless you read Newsmax and listen to a lot of right-wing radio, probably not. It's an obscure statute that's been on the books since 1920, and it requires all shipping between U.S. ports or in U.S. coastal waters to be carried in U.S.-flag ships that are owned and crewed by U.S. citizens. So why are conservatives suddenly up in arms about it? Because, they claim, it's a labor-inspired rule that's obstructing aid to a Gulf Coast the right wing loves BP oil as shown by their recent apology. they defend wall street and the banks as shown by their recent meeting with top level hedge fund CEO's they HATE the middle class as shown by their paranoid conspiracy theories. the GOP needs to be destroyed Actually, did you see this months employment numbers... ya sure bet Obama wants to brag about it going down to 9.5%... But 658,000 people gave up looking for work.... 7.9 million fewer people at work in private business since this began. 14.6 million people looking for work. Last months prop up numbers of the 400,000 census workers are again looking for work. Monthly job cuts are up to 125,000 for the month was partially offset by private job hires iof 33,000. More than 525,000 new unemployed started to look for work last month to replace the lost job. How is Obamanonics really working far ya? -- We all work for government, they ceased working for us a long time ago. It's betting than bleeding 700K+ per month. Of course, you'd rather see the census working unemployed and people continue to be so disheartened that they don't even bother to look for work. How's that lack of compassion workin out for you. Why don't you lie some more. You've got Palin as a role model. LMAO. It is like a bleeding person, after you have lost 4 pints you don't have as much to give so things are better. Hahahaha. I have more compassion than a greedy debtor whore. As I provide sustainable moves. Debtors, me me me me want debt or I am a ****ed ass hole are greedy, selfish short sighted jerks. But the lessons are being taught. Just hasn't gotten around to you yet. -- We all work for government, they ceased working for us a long time ago. Good grief! Not only are you stupid, but you have built-in Turret's Stupid Syndrome. Don't know what that is. But coming from a racist parrot...worth ignoring. -- We all work for government, they ceased working for us a long time ago. Actually she did us an enourmous favor. If you don't think she's a horrible little bitch now, you will after you see this video. Remember her statement "Good grief! Not only are you stupid, but you have built-in Turret's Stupid Syndrome." I think she even tops Harry at his worst moment. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrv9d...layer_embedded Actually, I have been known to call her a skank. This just fortifies it. Tourettes would be a reasonable explanation for the foul language that comes out of the mouths of some of the conserva-trash here. |
So, who here fell for the latest GOP bullshit on the Jones Act?
On 02/07/2010 2:27 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
"Harold" wrote in message ... "Canuck57" wrote in message ... On 02/07/2010 12:28 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: "Canuck57" wrote in message ... On 02/07/2010 11:05 AM, nom=de=plume wrote: "Canuck57" wrote in message ... On 02/07/2010 5:51 AM, bpuharic wrote: On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 06:24:11 -0400, Harry wrote: Keeping Up With the Jones Act - By Kevin Drum, Mother Jones | Fri Jul. 2, 2010 3:00 AM PDT Have you heard of the Jones Act? Unless you read Newsmax and listen to a lot of right-wing radio, probably not. It's an obscure statute that's been on the books since 1920, and it requires all shipping between U.S. ports or in U.S. coastal waters to be carried in U.S.-flag ships that are owned and crewed by U.S. citizens. So why are conservatives suddenly up in arms about it? Because, they claim, it's a labor-inspired rule that's obstructing aid to a Gulf Coast the right wing loves BP oil as shown by their recent apology. they defend wall street and the banks as shown by their recent meeting with top level hedge fund CEO's they HATE the middle class as shown by their paranoid conspiracy theories. the GOP needs to be destroyed Actually, did you see this months employment numbers... ya sure bet Obama wants to brag about it going down to 9.5%... But 658,000 people gave up looking for work.... 7.9 million fewer people at work in private business since this began. 14.6 million people looking for work. Last months prop up numbers of the 400,000 census workers are again looking for work. Monthly job cuts are up to 125,000 for the month was partially offset by private job hires iof 33,000. More than 525,000 new unemployed started to look for work last month to replace the lost job. How is Obamanonics really working far ya? -- We all work for government, they ceased working for us a long time ago. It's betting than bleeding 700K+ per month. Of course, you'd rather see the census working unemployed and people continue to be so disheartened that they don't even bother to look for work. How's that lack of compassion workin out for you. Why don't you lie some more. You've got Palin as a role model. LMAO. It is like a bleeding person, after you have lost 4 pints you don't have as much to give so things are better. Hahahaha. I have more compassion than a greedy debtor whore. As I provide sustainable moves. Debtors, me me me me want debt or I am a ****ed ass hole are greedy, selfish short sighted jerks. But the lessons are being taught. Just hasn't gotten around to you yet. -- We all work for government, they ceased working for us a long time ago. Good grief! Not only are you stupid, but you have built-in Turret's Stupid Syndrome. Don't know what that is. But coming from a racist parrot...worth ignoring. -- We all work for government, they ceased working for us a long time ago. Actually she did us an enourmous favor. If you don't think she's a horrible little bitch now, you will after you see this video. Remember her statement "Good grief! Not only are you stupid, but you have built-in Turret's Stupid Syndrome." I think she even tops Harry at his worst moment. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrv9d...layer_embedded I think you and he are more like this guy... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqCD5...eature=related You are one sick skank. You get off on other peoples problems not of their own making? With racist supremacy that we cannot criticise Obama because he is black... You are a disease. I don't mean you have one, you are one. Just a debt ridden fat old bitter skank. -- We all work for government, they ceased working for us a long time ago. |
So, who here fell for the latest GOP bullshit on the Jones Act?
On 02/07/2010 2:24 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
"Canuck57" wrote in message ... On 02/07/2010 12:28 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: "Canuck57" wrote in message ... On 02/07/2010 11:05 AM, nom=de=plume wrote: "Canuck57" wrote in message ... On 02/07/2010 5:51 AM, bpuharic wrote: On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 06:24:11 -0400, Harry wrote: Keeping Up With the Jones Act — By Kevin Drum, Mother Jones | Fri Jul. 2, 2010 3:00 AM PDT Have you heard of the Jones Act? Unless you read Newsmax and listen to a lot of right-wing radio, probably not. It's an obscure statute that's been on the books since 1920, and it requires all shipping between U.S. ports or in U.S. coastal waters to be carried in U.S.-flag ships that are owned and crewed by U.S. citizens. So why are conservatives suddenly up in arms about it? Because, they claim, it's a labor-inspired rule that's obstructing aid to a Gulf Coast the right wing loves BP oil as shown by their recent apology. they defend wall street and the banks as shown by their recent meeting with top level hedge fund CEO's they HATE the middle class as shown by their paranoid conspiracy theories. the GOP needs to be destroyed Actually, did you see this months employment numbers... ya sure bet Obama wants to brag about it going down to 9.5%... But 658,000 people gave up looking for work.... 7.9 million fewer people at work in private business since this began. 14.6 million people looking for work. Last months prop up numbers of the 400,000 census workers are again looking for work. Monthly job cuts are up to 125,000 for the month was partially offset by private job hires iof 33,000. More than 525,000 new unemployed started to look for work last month to replace the lost job. How is Obamanonics really working far ya? -- We all work for government, they ceased working for us a long time ago. It's betting than bleeding 700K+ per month. Of course, you'd rather see the census working unemployed and people continue to be so disheartened that they don't even bother to look for work. How's that lack of compassion workin out for you. Why don't you lie some more. You've got Palin as a role model. LMAO. It is like a bleeding person, after you have lost 4 pints you don't have as much to give so things are better. Hahahaha. I have more compassion than a greedy debtor whore. As I provide sustainable moves. Debtors, me me me me want debt or I am a ****ed ass hole are greedy, selfish short sighted jerks. But the lessons are being taught. Just hasn't gotten around to you yet. -- We all work for government, they ceased working for us a long time ago. Good grief! Not only are you stupid, but you have built-in Turret's Stupid Syndrome. Don't know what that is. But coming from a racist parrot...worth ignoring. -- We all work for government, they ceased working for us a long time ago. Yes, we know you don't know what Turret's Syndrome is and you're too dumb to look it up. I feel so sorry for your husband if you ever had one. -- We all work for government, they ceased working for us a long time ago. |
So, who here fell for the latest GOP bullshit on the Jones Act?
On 02/07/2010 2:28 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
"Canuck57" wrote in message ... On 02/07/2010 12:32 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: "Jack" wrote in message ... On Jul 2, 1:22 pm, "Harold" wrote: "bpuharic" wrote in message ... On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 08:31:36 -0600, Canuck57 wrote: On 02/07/2010 5:51 AM, bpuharic wrote: On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 06:24:11 -0400, Harry wrote: they HATE the middle class as shown by their paranoid conspiracy theories. the GOP needs to be destroyed Actually, did you see this months employment numbers... ya sure bet Obama wants to brag about it going down to 9.5%... hard to undo what bush and the right wing did. the level of damage done by 30 years of right wing unregulated free market fundamentalism is immense How is Obamanonics really working far ya? actually what happened is people are starting to take the right wing seriouslyl. they're talking budget cuts. layoffs. massive reduction in services. that drove the market down 100 points today it's having the same effect it did in1930. it's destroying the economy courtesy of the right wing When you spend like an ape gone wild the bill eventually comes due. There has to be budget cuts, massive cutbacks to the federal payroll, cutbacks in entitlement programs, rounding up wetbacks and other illegals and removing them from our soil,etc. Welcome to phase two of the Obama Recession. Oh, I almost forgot, If we're going to level the playing field we need to eliminate the money grabbing unions. Obama grabbed the steering wheel as the US was careening down the road, and promptly drove us right over a 3 trillion dollar cliff. You can't dig yourself out of a hole by digging the hole deeper. The spending has to stop, and then you just have further to fall. Welcome to the Obama Recession. Obama crabbed the wheel because Bush/Cheney were asleep in the back after their 8-year long love affair with destroying the economy. Welcome to the You Are Stupid Awards. For the indicators I use, I agree in part. Economic destruction began in 2006 with the new democrat congress. Unemployment too shows this. Plot unemployment for the last 8 years and you will see the correlation with democrat ponzi money management starting in 2006. But we know you are a crazed debtor in denial. -- We all work for government, they ceased working for us a long time ago. No. You're just an idiot. Said racist Polly want a cracker. -- We all work for government, they ceased working for us a long time ago. |
So, who here fell for the latest GOP bullshit on the Jones Act?
On 02/07/2010 3:18 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 10:45:55 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Jul 2, 1:22 pm, wrote: wrote in message Obama grabbed the steering wheel as the US was careening down the road, and promptly drove us right over a 3 trillion dollar cliff. and it was working. until the right came in and said we need to give MORE money to the rich to protect THEM You can't dig yourself out of a hole by digging the hole deeper. gee. how did the depression of 29 end? we spent our way out. Actually not entirely. Europe opened up their bank accounts and borrowed and sold what they could to raise money for American goods to fight the war. Only after recovery in Amerca was well under way and with budget under control start to borrow and then entered the war. It took DC almost 10 years to get its spending and then debt under control. And what really drove it was people producing exports people wanted and would pay for. The spending has to stop, and then you just have further to fall. Welcome to the Obama Recession.s sorry sport. bush was pres when the depression hit in 2007 You are partially right here. 2006 congress putzed with money creation and stupid low interest rates letting debt go rampant. Making Bush was president for the begining of the recession. Bush did start the corruption when democrats asked the lame president to bailout banks, and later with president elect Obama's support. In fact, Obama has not once been against bailouts. Obama made it a depression. Really pounded it in hard with the DC black hole for money and debt growing like dandilions. Just added to the mess, see GMAC a 4 time welfare bailouts. And the recession really began in earnest in Sept. 2008. About 1 year after congress openly ignored the interest rate invesion of 2007. Interest rate inversions lasting longer than 2 months have preceeded every recession/depression to date, or at least as far back as 1870. In reality, Congress started this mess and when Obama looked like he was going to be the winner, the market crashed in Sept 2008 anticipating Obamanation in November. Market always is and always has been a crystal ball into the future. -- We all work for government, they ceased working for us a long time ago. |
So, who here fell for the latest GOP bullshit on the Jones Act?
On 02/07/2010 3:19 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 11:47:40 -0600, wrote: No need too, by this time next year GM will be broke. i love it. we have a $14 trillion economy. and all he bitches about is GM. GM and corrupt auto is a poster child. If you rather, AIG, Citi, BAC, and others. All the government ned to do is cover FDIC insured, not indemnified the who loose as a goose debt system at the taxpayers debt cost. You enjoy paying taxes to corrupt corporations of America? Do you think workers without pensions should subsidize UAW and Banks??? You even make a bad socialist. As it was really about government greed and corruption of congress, senate and the presidente. Government will be forced to shut down as much as it can, and I mean 50% of government spending. Unions going on strike, just lock them out permanently. the US has no unions. What do they call them??? http://www.afge.org/ There is one. incidentally...the german economy is doing better than ours and THEIR economy is HEAVILY UNIONIZED ed. And they are under the increasing realization that they are in deep trouble. GM owes them money too. -- We all work for government, they ceased working for us a long time ago. |
So, who here fell for the latest GOP bullshit on the Jones Act?
On 02/07/2010 1:42 PM, Harold wrote:
wrote in message ... On 02/07/2010 12:29 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: wrote in message ... wrote in message ... On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 08:31:36 -0600, wrote: On 02/07/2010 5:51 AM, bpuharic wrote: On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 06:24:11 -0400, Harry wrote: they HATE the middle class as shown by their paranoid conspiracy theories. the GOP needs to be destroyed Actually, did you see this months employment numbers... ya sure bet Obama wants to brag about it going down to 9.5%... hard to undo what bush and the right wing did. the level of damage done by 30 years of right wing unregulated free market fundamentalism is immense How is Obamanonics really working far ya? actually what happened is people are starting to take the right wing seriouslyl. they're talking budget cuts. layoffs. massive reduction in services. that drove the market down 100 points today it's having the same effect it did in1930. it's destroying the economy courtesy of the right wing When you spend like an ape gone wild the bill eventually comes due. There has to be budget cuts, massive cutbacks to the federal payroll, cutbacks in entitlement programs, rounding up wetbacks and other illegals and removing them from our soil,etc. Welcome to phase two of the Obama Recession. Oh, I almost forgot, If we're going to level the playing field we need to eliminate the money grabbing unions. When you're a racist like you, you fit right in with your fellow KKKers. Kettle calling the pot black? -- We all work for government, they ceased working for us a long time ago. There she goes with the racist bit again. All that says to me is that she's a dope and knows she's wrong but doesn't have the balls to admit it. Aparently she missed the link that explains why liberals react the way they do when they hear the truth. http://www.thepoliticalcesspool.org/book/ I am sure there is truth to his book, Obama is the first president you are accused of being a racist if you disagree or joke on him. Me, I figure it is the racism in blacks. But then they probably think you have to be white to be racist, which is racist in itself. No big, my skin is thicker. I criticised Bush for bank bailouts, I will criticise Obama for the debt spiral and corruption waste. Just shows they lost the rational of the argument and they know it. Sort of like defunct debtors denial. -- We all work for government, they ceased working for us a long time ago. |
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