So, who here fell for the latest GOP bullshit on the Jones Act?
 

On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 13:27:02 -0400, "Harold"
wrote:


"bpuharic" wrote in message
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On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 11:01:02 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:




actually it did. the economy was growing. now that the money is spent,
and YOUR view is becoming dominant, the economy is dying.

welcome to 1929 courtesy of the right wing

That this despression is about debtors not paying their
bills and that includes Obama/Democrat congress.

Debt whores are destroying the worlds economic system, and #1 debtor in
the world is now Obama. Spent more debt money than any other human that
ever lived.

we need to spend MORE to undo the right wing damage. otherwise we'll
never dig ourselves out of this hole the right put us in

Where is the money going to come from? The well is dry.

cut defense spending by 150B...as conservatives have even
recommended...

borrow even more and use it to pump up the economy.

force companies to distribute productivy increases to their workers
instead of paying dividends to give the middle class a pay increase to
SPEND

and implement tax cuts for the MIDDLE CLASS, not the rich, like the
GOP has been doing for 30 years

So, who here fell for the latest GOP bullshit on the Jones Act?
 

On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 11:33:59 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 02/07/2010 11:10 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 11:01:02 -0600,
wrote:



You mean intellectually stupid like nails. Been 22 months since Obama
was elected, 18 months since he took office, $3 trillion in debt ago.

amazing how much damage the right wing did to the US economy. it's
been 18 months and still we're in a depression. it's getting worse
because there's serious talk of major govt spending cuts...just like
the 1930's. we can see the effects of what canuck advocates.

What? I have money so I am supposed to invest it in a loser deal? Pull
your head out of your arse. Nothing to stop your sorry ass from putting
your money down. Other than perhaps you are broke, in debt up to your
eyeeballs and in arrears.

meaninjgless babbling.

we're broke. and your recommendation? make us BROKER!!

more unemployed...more deflation...

bail out BP and stick the taxpayer with the billl...



Investors are no different than workers

bull****. right now their tax rate is 15%. no taxpayer has a rate that
low.


.. They don't go to work for
nothing or to loose. Governemtn wants to f- things up, no problem we
will retire the cash to the sidelines or into some other non-domestic
venture.

right now the problem is the MIDDLE CLASS is not spending. **** the
rich. they've had their day in the sun. they stole everything not
nailed down and stuck the middle class with the bill

you right wingers cant remember YESTERDAY.


When does it become Obama's problem? 2369?

it may never be possible to undo the damage the right wing did.

You are right in that the tipping point of US debt may have been
exceeded and that the US economy and currency is bankrupt. If so, look
to 3rd world status in months not years.

but the rich will do very well if the GOP gets back in


actually it did. the economy was growing. now that the money is spent,
and YOUR view is becoming dominant, the economy is dying.

welcome to 1929 courtesy of the right wing

Welcome to 1870... Some stats are now worse than 1929.

yep. courtesy of the right wing


we need to spend MORE to undo the right wing damage. otherwise we'll
never dig ourselves out of this hole the right put us in

You can't spend your way out of debt.

?? sure you can. in fact it's the ONLY way to get out of debt. if NO
ONE SPENDS then companies dont need to create jobs

what do you think companies are going to do? make **** and let it sit
in warehouses?

where did you learn economics? culinary arts school?

So, who here fell for the latest GOP bullshit on the Jones Act?
 

On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 13:22:37 -0400, "Harold"
wrote:


"bpuharic" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 08:31:36 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:


actually what happened is people are starting to take the right wing
seriouslyl. they're talking budget cuts. layoffs. massive reduction in
services. that drove the market down 100 points today

it's having the same effect it did in1930. it's destroying the economy

courtesy of the right wing

When you spend like an ape gone wild the bill eventually comes due

and when you DONT spend then the economy shuts down. your way was
tried. it FAILED

.. There
has to be budget cuts, massive cutbacks to the federal payroll, cutbacks in
entitlement programs, rounding up wetbacks

bull****. the FIRST people to go after are the people who sold CDO'S,
and had capital gains tax rates of 15%. the 'wetback's have no money.
WTF is killing THEM going to do?

christ you right wingers have NO solutions, do you? you're nothing but
cliches

and other illegals and removing
them from our soil,etc. Welcome to phase two of the Obama Recession.
Oh, I almost forgot, If we're going to level the playing field we need to
eliminate the money grabbing unions.

the US has no unions. and it's WALLSTREET that ****ed the economy. NOT
the middle class

So, who here fell for the latest GOP bullshit on the Jones Act?
 

On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 10:45:55 -0700 (PDT), Jack
wrote:

On Jul 2, 1:22*pm, "Harold" wrote:
"bpuharic" wrote in message


Obama grabbed the steering wheel as the US was careening down the
road, and promptly drove us right over a 3 trillion dollar cliff.

and it was working. until the right came in and said we need to give
MORE money to the rich to protect THEM


You can't dig yourself out of a hole by digging the hole deeper.

gee. how did the depression of 29 end?

we spent our way out.

The
spending has to stop, and then you just have further to fall.

Welcome to the Obama Recession.s

sorry sport. bush was pres when the depression hit in 2007

So, who here fell for the latest GOP bullshit on the Jones Act?
 

On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 11:47:40 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:



No need too, by this time next year GM will be broke.

i love it. we have a $14 trillion economy. and all he bitches about is
GM.


Government will
be forced to shut down as much as it can, and I mean 50% of government
spending. Unions going on strike, just lock them out permanently.

the US has no unions.

incidentally...the german economy is doing better than ours

and THEIR economy is HEAVILY UNIONIZED
ed.

So, who here fell for the latest GOP bullshit on the Jones Act?
 

On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 11:39:25 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:



In case you haven't noticed, even though Obama has had congres extend
the debt to $14.5 trillion, he is flat assed broke.

yeah. just like we were in 29.

guess what. we spent our way out of that

Can't keep creating
money that way. Markets are down as the cold realization that the US
governemnt is broken and broke.

and the realization the right wng will slash spending...companies wont
be making money. people wont be spending

welciome to another 10 years of right wing depression

So, who here fell for the latest GOP bullshit on the Jones Act?
 

"bpuharic" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 13:27:02 -0400, "Harold"
wrote:


"bpuharic" wrote in message
. ..
On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 11:01:02 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:




actually it did. the economy was growing. now that the money is spent,
and YOUR view is becoming dominant, the economy is dying.

welcome to 1929 courtesy of the right wing

That this despression is about debtors not paying their
bills and that includes Obama/Democrat congress.

Debt whores are destroying the worlds economic system, and #1 debtor in
the world is now Obama. Spent more debt money than any other human that
ever lived.

we need to spend MORE to undo the right wing damage. otherwise we'll
never dig ourselves out of this hole the right put us in

Where is the money going to come from? The well is dry.

cut defense spending by 150B...as conservatives have even
recommended...

borrow even more and use it to pump up the economy.

force companies to distribute productivy increases to their workers
instead of paying dividends to give the middle class a pay increase to
SPEND



and implement tax cuts for the MIDDLE CLASS, not the rich, like the
GOP has been doing for 30 years


That's quite a pipe dream. You been smokin La Plumes ****.?

So, who here fell for the latest GOP bullshit on the Jones Act?
 

"bpuharic" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 13:22:37 -0400, "Harold"
wrote:


"bpuharic" wrote in message
. ..
On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 08:31:36 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:


actually what happened is people are starting to take the right wing
seriouslyl. they're talking budget cuts. layoffs. massive reduction in
services. that drove the market down 100 points today

it's having the same effect it did in1930. it's destroying the economy

courtesy of the right wing

When you spend like an ape gone wild the bill eventually comes due

and when you DONT spend then the economy shuts down. your way was
tried. it FAILED

. There
has to be budget cuts, massive cutbacks to the federal payroll, cutbacks
in
entitlement programs, rounding up wetbacks

bull****. the FIRST people to go after are the people who sold CDO'S,
and had capital gains tax rates of 15%. the 'wetback's have no money.
WTF is killing THEM going to do?

christ you right wingers have NO solutions, do you? you're nothing but
cliches

and other illegals and removing
them from our soil,etc. Welcome to phase two of the Obama Recession.
Oh, I almost forgot, If we're going to level the playing field we need to
eliminate the money grabbing unions.

the US has no unions. and it's WALLSTREET that ****ed the economy. NOT
the middle class




You owe your cushy little job to investors. Be careful what you wish for.

So, who here fell for the latest GOP bullshit on the Jones Act?
 

On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 08:31:36 -0600, Canuck57 wrote:

On 02/07/2010 5:51 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 06:24:11 -0400, Harry
wrote:

Keeping Up With the Jones Act

— By Kevin Drum, Mother Jones
| Fri Jul. 2, 2010 3:00 AM PDT

Have you heard of the Jones Act? Unless you read Newsmax and listen to a
lot of right-wing radio, probably not. It's an obscure statute that's
been on the books since 1920, and it requires all shipping between U.S.
ports or in U.S. coastal waters to be carried in U.S.-flag ships that
are owned and crewed by U.S. citizens.

So why are conservatives suddenly up in arms about it? Because, they
claim, it's a labor-inspired rule that's obstructing aid to a Gulf Coast

the right wing loves BP oil as shown by their recent apology. they
defend wall street and the banks as shown by their recent meeting with
top level hedge fund CEO's

they HATE the middle class as shown by their paranoid conspiracy
theories.

the GOP needs to be destroyed

Actually, did you see this months employment numbers... ya sure bet
Obama wants to brag about it going down to 9.5%...

But 658,000 people gave up looking for work....

7.9 million fewer people at work in private business since this began.

14.6 million people looking for work.

Last months prop up numbers of the 400,000 census workers are again
looking for work.

Monthly job cuts are up to 125,000 for the month was partially offset by
private job hires iof 33,000.

More than 525,000 new unemployed started to look for work last month to
replace the lost job.

How is Obamanonics really working far ya?

I note that the claim made by conservatives wasn't disproved!
--
John H

All decisions are the result of binary thinking.

So, who here fell for the latest GOP bullshit on the Jones Act?
 

"John H" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 08:31:36 -0600, Canuck57 wrote:

On 02/07/2010 5:51 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 06:24:11 -0400, Harry
wrote:

Keeping Up With the Jones Act

- By Kevin Drum, Mother Jones
| Fri Jul. 2, 2010 3:00 AM PDT

Have you heard of the Jones Act? Unless you read Newsmax and listen to
a
lot of right-wing radio, probably not. It's an obscure statute that's
been on the books since 1920, and it requires all shipping between U.S.
ports or in U.S. coastal waters to be carried in U.S.-flag ships that
are owned and crewed by U.S. citizens.

So why are conservatives suddenly up in arms about it? Because, they
claim, it's a labor-inspired rule that's obstructing aid to a Gulf
Coast

the right wing loves BP oil as shown by their recent apology. they
defend wall street and the banks as shown by their recent meeting with
top level hedge fund CEO's

they HATE the middle class as shown by their paranoid conspiracy
theories.

the GOP needs to be destroyed

Actually, did you see this months employment numbers... ya sure bet
Obama wants to brag about it going down to 9.5%...

But 658,000 people gave up looking for work....

7.9 million fewer people at work in private business since this began.

14.6 million people looking for work.

Last months prop up numbers of the 400,000 census workers are again
looking for work.

Monthly job cuts are up to 125,000 for the month was partially offset by
private job hires iof 33,000.

More than 525,000 new unemployed started to look for work last month to
replace the lost job.

How is Obamanonics really working far ya?

I note that the claim made by conservatives wasn't disproved!
--
John H

All decisions are the result of binary thinking.

I note that you're an idiot and a liar. So far, I note that you haven't
disproved it.