Knives, getting them sharp like a razor blade
 

"Canuck57" wrote in message
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Going boating, regs or no regs every sane boater brings a good knife. In
fact I don't remember seeing knive in our regs, but it is a good practice.
Expecially if you have to cut others line out of the prop.

Maybe even 2 or 3. Me, I have one on my belt and another in the tackle
box as a minimum. Usually a couple more at the fish cleaning station.
Need to cut rope or a fish, or fishing line, only a quick reach away.

But keeping them shape. Same problem in the home. Real pain in the
crack. What experiences work best to get these things sharp enough to
shave with? Not gimick solutions, I mean get knives real professionally
sharp but do it at home or the cottage. What methods are people using?

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I use a 2" x 6" EZLap diamond stone. Bought one in 1974 to sharpen diving
knives, and it worked great. Finally got a new one last year, the old one
lasted that long. About $25. You can use it like a file, too, holding your
knife or blade stationary and making stroking movements with your stone.

When I was diving, we used ******* files to sharpen our folding
aluminum/Queen steel diving knives so that they would actually have a hack
saw type cutting edge to go through the rope. That worked nicely for the
underwater knives, but my topside stuff was finished off with the diamond
stone, and I was always doing other guys knives once they cut anything with
one of my knives.

Two things are critical when knife sharpening: the angle and the stone. A
guy who knows the angle can sharpen a cutting instrument on a rock and get
it pretty sharp.

YMMV, and I'm reasonably sure it does.

Steve

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A fool shows his annoyance at once, but a prudent man overlooks an insult.

Knives, getting them sharp like a razor blade
 

"W1TEF" wrote in message
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On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 09:40:09 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 01/07/2010 9:20 AM, Harold wrote:
wrote in message
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Going boating, regs or no regs every sane boater brings a good knife.
In
fact I don't remember seeing knive in our regs, but it is a good
practice.
Expecially if you have to cut others line out of the prop.

Maybe even 2 or 3. Me, I have one on my belt and another in the tackle
box as a minimum. Usually a couple more at the fish cleaning station.
Need to cut rope or a fish, or fishing line, only a quick reach away.

But keeping them shape. Same problem in the home. Real pain in the
crack. What experiences work best to get these things sharp enough to
shave with? Not gimick solutions, I mean get knives real
professionally
sharp but do it at home or the cottage. What methods are people using?

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We all work for government, they ceased working for us a long time ago.

I have this one.
http://www.target.com/gp/detail.html/181-2861161-8936718?asin=B001CR10RC&AFID=msncashback_df&LNM=|B 001CR10RC&CPNG=&ref=tgt_adv_XSB10001
It works great. Edges hold for a long time. After the first sharpening,
where you have to get the edges to the right angle, touch up is a
breeze.

Just what I wanted to know. I have had machines in the past, but they
seemed pretty bad other than grinding them down. But do suspect good
ones out there, just which ones.

Using a machine is cheating. :)

I find the whole practice of hand sharpening to be a very zen like
experience. You just get into a rhythm and eventually you get to the
zone where you can see what you are doing to the steel.

A person who does not understand these principles will remove a lot of metal
unnecessarily, and eventually end up with a knife that looks like a
toothpick.

Steve

visit my blog at http://cabgbypasssurgery.com watch for the book

A fool shows his annoyance at once, but a prudent man overlooks an insult.

Knives, getting them sharp like a razor blade
 

"Jack" wrote in message
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On Jul 1, 12:22 pm, W1TEF wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jul 2010 11:59:12 -0400, "Harold"

wrote:
If you have to muddle through life without cheating once in a while,
you'll
never make it. ;-)

I also use a machine to sharpen
my chain saw blades - that task is just annoying as hell and it's
faster to use a machine.


Chain saw blades? That's why god made John Deere dealers... they
sherpen them while you wait for a few bucks. I keep a spare sharp one
for the Stihl.

reply: Chit. I passed on a good chain saw sharpening machine today. May
go back tomorrow and see if it is still at that yard sale, and if they will
negotiate. Got some good deals, one a Whites PDX metal detector NEW for
$20. They retail for $1100.

Knives, getting them sharp like a razor blade
 

wrote in message
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On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 08:18:35 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:


Going boating, regs or no regs every sane boater brings a good knife.
In fact I don't remember seeing knive in our regs, but it is a good
practice. Expecially if you have to cut others line out of the prop.

Maybe even 2 or 3. Me, I have one on my belt and another in the tackle
box as a minimum. Usually a couple more at the fish cleaning station.
Need to cut rope or a fish, or fishing line, only a quick reach away.

But keeping them shape. Same problem in the home. Real pain in the
crack. What experiences work best to get these things sharp enough to
shave with? Not gimick solutions, I mean get knives real professionally
sharp but do it at home or the cottage. What methods are people using?

.
If you are thinking of cutting line off your prop you are better off
with a serrated blade like a cheap ginsu knife. Save your sharp knife
for filleting fish

Nothing like cutting a blob of 5" nylon mooring line out of an 8' prop.
With no visibility.

Knives, getting them sharp like a razor blade
 

"A.Boater" wrote in message
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Only a dumbass like you would believe, given the current types of fishing
line, that a knife of ANY sharpness would be worth a crap.

u tawkin tuh mee?

Knives, getting them sharp like a razor blade
 

On Thu, 1 Jul 2010 16:22:27 -0700, "Steve B"
wrote:

If you are thinking of cutting line off your prop you are better off
with a serrated blade like a cheap ginsu knife. Save your sharp knife
for filleting fish

Nothing like cutting a blob of 5" nylon mooring line out of an 8' prop.
With no visibility.

Heh, or a 12 inch prop that looks like a basketball.

Or a polypro crab pot line that has been sucked into the cutlass
bearing on a 2 inch shaft.

Knives, getting them sharp like a razor blade
 

On 01/07/2010 1:16 PM, W1TEF wrote:
On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 11:24:34 -0600,
wrote:

On 01/07/2010 10:22 AM, W1TEF wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jul 2010 11:59:12 -0400, "Harold"
wrote:

If you have to muddle through life without cheating once in a while, you'll
never make it. ;-)

Well, I will cop to using a machine to sharpen my wood lathe shaping
tools. Then again, those are set up on a jig to get the angles right.
The cutoff tools I sharpen by hand. I also use a machine to sharpen
my chain saw blades - that task is just annoying as hell and it's
faster to use a machine.

Sharpening a knife via machine just ain't right. :)

How about both. As I have never seen a non-commercial machine do a good
job. Do it with a machine then touch it up manually.

Part of the reason I suspect I have issues is I have manually done this
enough the knife bevels are out.

Ah - well, that means you have to remake the bevel and you do that
with the coarse stone - doesn't take long at all. A few minutes.

Here you go Grasshopper... :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYnFL3zCYUY

Thank you master. Missing the coarse stone and the leather strap/stoop.

Made lots of sense.

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Knives, getting them sharp like a razor blade
 

On 01/07/2010 1:48 PM, Jim wrote:
Canuck57 wrote:

Going boating, regs or no regs every sane boater brings a good knife.
In fact I don't remember seeing knive in our regs, but it is a good
practice. Expecially if you have to cut others line out of the prop.

Maybe even 2 or 3. Me, I have one on my belt and another in the tackle
box as a minimum. Usually a couple more at the fish cleaning station.
Need to cut rope or a fish, or fishing line, only a quick reach away.

But keeping them shape. Same problem in the home. Real pain in the
crack. What experiences work best to get these things sharp enough to
shave with? Not gimick solutions, I mean get knives real
professionally sharp but do it at home or the cottage. What methods
are people using?


You'll have no luck with sharpening knives or doing anything else with
them while Obama is in there. Wait a while.
In the meantime tell your wife to get get one of the electrics
mentioned, or have her read the reviews and select one.
Don't have to go beyond a double bevel unless you're real particular
about that.
Then have her select a couple quality diamond steels - one for the
tackle box, one for the glove box.
You want your knives sharp enough to shave hair off skin.
But don't try that yourself with Obama in there.
Your wife can use her arms or legs for testing the blades for now.
Have her do the sharpening at home, then take her with you where ever
you go and let her do all the needed touch-up steel honing when away
from the electric.
Best to have her do the cutting too unless you want get some of those
steel mesh gloves for yourself.
When Obama's gone she can teach you what she was doing, and you can
start doing all that yourself. Won't need the gloves either.
You'll be safe with him gone, and won't get all gashed up.
That's assuming they don't elect Al Sharpton to succeed him.

Jim - Got the best advice for Canuck57.

Don't think I would want to come near Obama with a knife.

If I accidentally cut him, the balloon would burst and I would be all
covered in ****.

Liking the electric with a strap. My wife likes coming fishing. ;)

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Knives, getting them sharp like a razor blade
 

"Canuck57" wrote in message
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Going boating, regs or no regs every sane boater brings a good knife. In
fact I don't remember seeing knive in our regs, but it is a good practice.
Expecially if you have to cut others line out of the prop.

Maybe even 2 or 3. Me, I have one on my belt and another in the tackle
box as a minimum. Usually a couple more at the fish cleaning station.
Need to cut rope or a fish, or fishing line, only a quick reach away.

But keeping them shape. Same problem in the home. Real pain in the
crack. What experiences work best to get these things sharp enough to
shave with? Not gimick solutions, I mean get knives real professionally
sharp but do it at home or the cottage. What methods are people using?

--
We all work for government, they ceased working for us a long time ago.

I have a diamond stone in the camper and a Chef's choice 460 at home, plus
good stones. But I seem to revert to the Hunter Honer more these days.
http://www.hunterhoner.com/ does a good job. Then follow up with a good
steel. Use the steel a lot and less sharpening. Plus get good knives. My
main knives are Forschner and Henkel's. Mostly Forschner. Bad knife steel
and the edge goes away quickly.

Knives, getting them sharp like a razor blade
 

"W1TEF" wrote in message
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On Thu, 1 Jul 2010 11:59:12 -0400, "Harold"
wrote:

If you have to muddle through life without cheating once in a while,
you'll
never make it. ;-)

Well, I will cop to using a machine to sharpen my wood lathe shaping
tools. Then again, those are set up on a jig to get the angles right.
The cutoff tools I sharpen by hand. I also use a machine to sharpen
my chain saw blades - that task is just annoying as hell and it's
faster to use a machine.

Sharpening a knife via machine just ain't right. :)

When I used to use my chainsaw a lot, I used my Dremel with the correct
stone and could hand sharpen the blade quickly at home. Had a 12V tool with
jig for the field, but after a while, eyeball it and forget the jig.