Knives, getting them sharp like a razor blade
 

On 01/07/2010 10:15 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 08:18:35 -0600,
wrote:


Going boating, regs or no regs every sane boater brings a good knife.
In fact I don't remember seeing knive in our regs, but it is a good
practice. Expecially if you have to cut others line out of the prop.

Maybe even 2 or 3. Me, I have one on my belt and another in the tackle
box as a minimum. Usually a couple more at the fish cleaning station.
Need to cut rope or a fish, or fishing line, only a quick reach away.

But keeping them shape. Same problem in the home. Real pain in the
crack. What experiences work best to get these things sharp enough to
shave with? Not gimick solutions, I mean get knives real professionally
sharp but do it at home or the cottage. What methods are people using?

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If you are thinking of cutting line off your prop you are better off
with a serrated blade like a cheap ginsu knife. Save your sharp knife
for filleting fish

The filleting knife, I always sharpen to perfection even if it takes me
1/2 a day. Dull knives and fish are dangerious.

Maybe put one of the serrated knives in the tackle box. Good idea.

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Knives, getting them sharp like a razor blade
 

On Jul 1, 11:49*am, W1TEF wrote:


I have two of his blades - a 6" Hunter with flamed bone handle and a
10" Bowie with a leather wrapped and bound *tang. *Both weren't up to
his standards and he sold them to me at cost (little flaws in the
shape of the blades that you and I wouldn't notice, but he did). *Both
are folded high carbon steel - the Hunter 100 times and the Bowie 125
times. Those things are sharp as hell and stay that way for a long
time.

My Dad was a machinist before he retired and has been a craftsman and
fabricator all his life. He used to make knives... he'd use a file
that he would annealed to the appropriate hardness, then would grind,
shape, and polish the blade out of that file. He'd make the quillion
and pommel out of various materials like stainless or brass, and the
handle usually from deer horn, sometimes from bakelite or other
industrial materials. He made some really nice ones... mainly gave
them away to his friends.

It all came to an end when some other guy in the shop was doing final
polishing on one he'd made... *after* he sharpened it. The blade dug
into the buffer wheel, pulling the knife out of his hands and down
across his leg. It took 20 something stitches to sew his leg up, and
the management forbid any more knifemaking.

Knives, getting them sharp like a razor blade
 

On 01/07/2010 11:24 AM, Jack wrote:
On Jul 1, 12:22 pm, wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jul 2010 11:59:12 -0400, "Harold"

wrote:
If you have to muddle through life without cheating once in a while, you'll
never make it. ;-)

I also use a machine to sharpen
my chain saw blades - that task is just annoying as hell and it's
faster to use a machine.


Chain saw blades? That's why god made John Deere dealers... they
sherpen them while you wait for a few bucks. I keep a spare sharp one
for the Stihl.

Now those would be a bugger to get right by hand. I know that is the
way they used to do it but machine or new for those.

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On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 08:18:35 -0600, Canuck57 wrote:


Going boating, regs or no regs every sane boater brings a good knife.
In fact I don't remember seeing knive in our regs, but it is a good
practice. Expecially if you have to cut others line out of the prop.

Maybe even 2 or 3. Me, I have one on my belt and another in the tackle
box as a minimum. Usually a couple more at the fish cleaning station.
Need to cut rope or a fish, or fishing line, only a quick reach away.

But keeping them shape. Same problem in the home. Real pain in the
crack. What experiences work best to get these things sharp enough to
shave with? Not gimick solutions, I mean get knives real professionally
sharp but do it at home or the cottage. What methods are people using?

This works like a champ. The idea that it will grind the knives to nothing is
bull****.

http://tinyurl.com/o9hp6v
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John H

All decisions are the result of binary thinking.

Knives, getting them sharp like a razor blade
 

On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 11:52:49 -0400, W1TEF wrote:

On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 09:40:09 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 01/07/2010 9:20 AM, Harold wrote:
wrote in message
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Going boating, regs or no regs every sane boater brings a good knife. In
fact I don't remember seeing knive in our regs, but it is a good practice.
Expecially if you have to cut others line out of the prop.

Maybe even 2 or 3. Me, I have one on my belt and another in the tackle
box as a minimum. Usually a couple more at the fish cleaning station.
Need to cut rope or a fish, or fishing line, only a quick reach away.

But keeping them shape. Same problem in the home. Real pain in the
crack. What experiences work best to get these things sharp enough to
shave with? Not gimick solutions, I mean get knives real professionally
sharp but do it at home or the cottage. What methods are people using?

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We all work for government, they ceased working for us a long time ago.

I have this one.
http://www.target.com/gp/detail.html/181-2861161-8936718?asin=B001CR10RC&AFID=msncashback_df&LNM=|B 001CR10RC&CPNG=&ref=tgt_adv_XSB10001
It works great. Edges hold for a long time. After the first sharpening,
where you have to get the edges to the right angle, touch up is a breeze.

Just what I wanted to know. I have had machines in the past, but they
seemed pretty bad other than grinding them down. But do suspect good
ones out there, just which ones.

Using a machine is cheating. :)

I find the whole practice of hand sharpening to be a very zen like
experience. You just get into a rhythm and eventually you get to the
zone where you can see what you are doing to the steel.

Yeah but...some of us are trying to improve our golf game with our free time.
--
John H

All decisions are the result of binary thinking.

Knives, getting them sharp like a razor blade
 

On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 12:22:56 -0400, W1TEF wrote:

On Thu, 1 Jul 2010 11:59:12 -0400, "Harold"
wrote:

If you have to muddle through life without cheating once in a while, you'll
never make it. ;-)

Well, I will cop to using a machine to sharpen my wood lathe shaping
tools. Then again, those are set up on a jig to get the angles right.
The cutoff tools I sharpen by hand. I also use a machine to sharpen
my chain saw blades - that task is just annoying as hell and it's
faster to use a machine.

Sharpening a knife via machine just ain't right. :)

BTW, are you still coming through here in July?
--
John H

All decisions are the result of binary thinking.

Knives, getting them sharp like a razor blade
 

Canuck57 wrote:

Going boating, regs or no regs every sane boater brings a good knife. In
fact I don't remember seeing knive in our regs, but it is a good
practice. Expecially if you have to cut others line out of the prop.

Maybe even 2 or 3. Me, I have one on my belt and another in the tackle
box as a minimum. Usually a couple more at the fish cleaning station.
Need to cut rope or a fish, or fishing line, only a quick reach away.

But keeping them shape. Same problem in the home. Real pain in the
crack. What experiences work best to get these things sharp enough to
shave with? Not gimick solutions, I mean get knives real professionally
sharp but do it at home or the cottage. What methods are people using?


You'll have no luck with sharpening knives or doing anything else with
them while Obama is in there. Wait a while.
In the meantime tell your wife to get get one of the electrics
mentioned, or have her read the reviews and select one.
Don't have to go beyond a double bevel unless you're real particular
about that.
Then have her select a couple quality diamond steels - one for the
tackle box, one for the glove box.
You want your knives sharp enough to shave hair off skin.
But don't try that yourself with Obama in there.
Your wife can use her arms or legs for testing the blades for now.
Have her do the sharpening at home, then take her with you where ever
you go and let her do all the needed touch-up steel honing when away
from the electric.
Best to have her do the cutting too unless you want get some of those
steel mesh gloves for yourself.
When Obama's gone she can teach you what she was doing, and you can
start doing all that yourself. Won't need the gloves either.
You'll be safe with him gone, and won't get all gashed up.
That's assuming they don't elect Al Sharpton to succeed him.

Jim - Got the best advice for Canuck57.

Knives, getting them sharp like a razor blade
 

On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 08:18:35 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

Going boating, regs or no regs every sane boater brings a good knife.
In fact I don't remember seeing knive in our regs, but it is a good
practice. Expecially if you have to cut others line out of the prop.


The best way to cut line from a prop is with a dry wall saw - readily
and inexpensively available at HD, Lowes or any good hardware store.
I've had some experience at this and the dry wall saw works better
than anything else I've used.

Maybe even 2 or 3. Me, I have one on my belt and another in the tackle
box as a minimum. Usually a couple more at the fish cleaning station.
Need to cut rope or a fish, or fishing line, only a quick reach away.


A long thin filet knife is best for fish of course. My favorite filet
knife came with a sharpening tool which is quite effective. It is a
small plastic frame which contains two ceramic rods at an angle to
each other - just the right angle to put a good sharp edge on the
blade. The trick is to pull the knife through the rods 4 or 5 times
just before you use it. Very easy and works well.

But keeping them sharp. Same problem in the home. Real pain in the
crack. What experiences work best to get these things sharp enough to
shave with? Not gimick solutions, I mean get knives real professionally
sharp but do it at home or the cottage. What methods are people using?

See above. I've used it on several other knives, also with good
results.

I also like to carry a couple of box cutters and a fresh supply of
blades.

Here are some other recomended sharpening methods:

TORMEK Wet grinder for knife, scissor and tool sharpening

PAPER SHARPENING WHEELS - To hone and strop knives

F. DICK RS-150 Two stage commercial knife sharpener

F. DICK SM-111 Three stage professional knife sharpener - grind,
sharpen, polish

CHEF'SCHOICE Knife Sharpeners including the 2000 Commercial knife
sharpener

TRU-HONE Knife Sharpener

EDGEPRO Manual knife and scissor sharpening system

Spyderco SHARPMAKER Manual knife sharpener

Wolff TWICE-AS-SHARP Scissor sharpening machine

Viel Tools BELT SANDER for knife repairs, garden tools, axes and other
convex edges.

All of the above courtesy of the "Sharpening Made Easy" web site:

http://www.sharpeningmadeeasy.com/index.htm

Knives, getting them sharp like a razor blade
 

On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 15:17:02 -0400, W1TEF wrote:

On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 14:54:12 -0400, John H
wrote:


BTW, are you still coming through here in July?

Yes - later in July though than I thought.

10-4
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Going boating, regs or no regs every sane boater brings a good knife.
In fact I don't remember seeing knive in our regs, but it is a good
practice. Expecially if you have to cut others line out of the prop.

Maybe even 2 or 3. Me, I have one on my belt and another in the tackle
box as a minimum. Usually a couple more at the fish cleaning station.
Need to cut rope or a fish, or fishing line, only a quick reach away.

But keeping them shape. Same problem in the home. Real pain in the
crack. What experiences work best to get these things sharp enough to
shave with? Not gimick solutions, I mean get knives real professionally
sharp but do it at home or the cottage. What methods are people using?

Japanese water stones. Takes practice to learn how to use them but, you
can put an edge on steel that will go through most anything with little
to no pressure on the blade.