On 6/27/2010 10:58 PM, Mike wrote:
you and other proto crypto dimwits ought to check out Reagan on immigration.

Reagan screwed up more than immigration. If you look closely enough
I don't think you'll find any president who didn't make some
significant bad calls.

when do you think all this started?

With the Mayflower.

On Jun 27, 9:13*pm, purple wrote:
On 6/27/2010 10:58 PM, Mike wrote:
* when do you think all this started?

With the Mayflower.

The Mayflower colonists were English subjects who voyaged to "Northern
Virginia" under a charter from King James.

They were never "immigrants" into any established country, because
there were no established governments in the region, just wandering
savage tribes who did not understand the concept of real estate or
land ownership.

According to the extant doctrines of European law, any uncivilized
territory could be claimed for king and country by any explorer
sailing under the flag of his country.

And that's what happened. There were no cities and no civilization
along the east coast.

The Mayflower colonists never left the territory of the British empire
and they took English law to Massachusetts with them, in the form of a
governor appointed by the king.

? wrote:

The Mayflower colonists were English subjects who voyaged to "Northern
Virginia" under a charter from King James.

They were never "immigrants" into any established country, because
there were no established governments in the region, just wandering
savage tribes who did not understand the concept of real estate or
land ownership.

According to the extant doctrines of European law, any uncivilized
territory could be claimed for king and country by any explorer
sailing under the flag of his country.

And that's what happened. There were no cities and no civilization
along the east coast.

The Mayflower colonists never left the territory of the British empire
and they took English law to Massachusetts with them, in the form of a
governor appointed by the king.

Moreover, Brit colonists had settled the Roanoke Colony in 1586
(Disappeared) and Jamestown (1607) decades before the 'pilgrims' landed in
1620. The Jamestown group had even celebrated a bunch og Thanksgivings
before any pilgrims arrived. The fact that few know that fact is a tribute
to yankee propaganda.

On Jun 28, 5:23*am, "Vito" wrote:
? wrote:

The Mayflower colonists were English subjects who voyaged to "Northern
Virginia" under a charter from King James.

They were never "immigrants" into any established country, because
there were no established governments in the region, just wandering
savage tribes who did not understand the concept of real estate or
land ownership.

According to the extant doctrines of European law, any uncivilized
territory could be claimed for king and country by any explorer
sailing under the flag of his country.

And that's what happened. There were no cities and no civilization
along the east coast.

The Mayflower colonists never left the territory of the British empire
and they took English law to Massachusetts with them, in the form of a
governor appointed by the king.

Moreover, Brit colonists had settled the Roanoke Colony in 1586
(Disappeared) and Jamestown (1607) decades before the 'pilgrims' landed in
1620. *The Jamestown group had even celebrated a bunch og Thanksgivings
before any pilgrims arrived. *The fact that few know that fact is a tribute
to yankee propaganda.

You are just talking about those johnny comlately morons (yeah our
relatives) the europeans trash. If you want to get picky you have to
include the phoenecians, egyptians and fair number of others. 8^) It's
a safe bet that of the johnny comlately's the chinese and irish beat
everyone else...and the chinese had already be everywhere magellen and
cook went long before those english idiots were whelped.

So any claims like Krusty Kritter (the kiddy loving klown) is moot and
uneducated uninformed bullshyte. hmmph...simple reading in your averge
library 35 years ago could have taught you that. shrug once I learn
something like this I move on and mostly purge it as it's now BORING.

On Jun 27, 11:22*pm, "?" wrote:
On Jun 27, 9:13*pm, purple wrote:

On 6/27/2010 10:58 PM, Mike wrote:
* when do you think all this started?

With the Mayflower.

The Mayflower colonists were English subjects who voyaged to "Northern
Virginia" under a charter from King James.

They were never "immigrants" into any established country, because
there were no established governments in the region, just wandering
savage tribes who did not understand the concept of real estate or
land ownership.

According to the extant doctrines of European law, any uncivilized
territory could be claimed for king and country by any explorer
sailing under the flag of his country.

And that's what happened. There were no cities and no civilization
along the east coast.

The Mayflower colonists never left the territory of the British empire
and they took English law to Massachusetts with them, in the form of a
governor appointed by the king.

Oh that's faggots...yeah if they weren't such a disease ridden bunch
of malcontents, THIEVES, scoundrels and ne'r do wells much like the
very people they left. Well I imagine the backstabbing *******s
wouldn't have ****ed things over as badly as they did.

No thanks...but your theory is **** just like your mind and those
depends you only change once a week to save money from your unearned
social security and welfare checks.

Krusty Kritter you are are deviant pedarast...

On 6/28/2010 12:22 AM, ? wrote:
On Jun 27, 9:13 pm, wrote:
On 6/27/2010 10:58 PM, Mike wrote:
when do you think all this started?

With the Mayflower.

The Mayflower colonists were English subjects who voyaged to "Northern
Virginia" under a charter from King James.

They were never "immigrants" into any established country, because
there were no established governments in the region, just wandering
savage tribes who did not understand the concept of real estate or
land ownership.

This is stupid. They left Europe. Redefining immigration as only
being into an "established country" is nonsensical.

According to the extant doctrines of European law, any uncivilized
territory could be claimed for king and country by any explorer
sailing under the flag of his country.

I guess you also think the Holy Roman Empire was a monolithic entity.

And that's what happened. There were no cities and no civilization
along the east coast.

The Mayflower colonists never left the territory of the British empire
and they took English law to Massachusetts with them, in the form of a
governor appointed by the king.

Mike asked where it all started. The real answer is probably when
hominids expanded outwards from the region of their origin in
Africa.

Or did you want to chase this back to a time before primates?

On Jun 28, 6:44*am, purple wrote:
On 6/28/2010 12:22 AM, ? wrote:
They were never "immigrants" into any established country, because
there were no established governments in the region, just wandering
savage tribes who did not understand the concept of real estate or
land ownership.

This is stupid. They left Europe.

The American colonists were English citizens and they continued to
look to England for governance for 150 years. Well-to-do American
colonists travelled back and forth on business and pleasure.

The fact that the English governor of any of the 13 colonies was an
appointee began to annoy the colonists, who wanted equal represenation
in parliament back home in England.

The phrase, "all men are created equal," was never intended by the
Declaration of Independence Commitee to refer to *racial equality*, it
was about *political equality* back home in England, where other
wealthy English landowners *were* represented in parliament.

Redefining immigration as only
being into an "established country" is nonsensical.

Look up "immigrant" in your dictionary and you'll find that the word
didn't enter the English language until 1790, when the first
immigration law was written in the USA.

The purpose of America's first immigration law was to keep out
undesireables who were not free White men of good character like the
Founding Fathers.

I guess you also think the Holy Roman Empire was a monolithic entity.

I think that the HRE is outside the boundaries of the discussion of
immigration.

Mike asked where it all started. The real answer is probably when
hominids expanded outwards from the region of their origin in
Africa.

Or did you want to chase this back to a time before primates?

I don't want to chase this issue into any mental territory inhabited
by radical liberals who seek to change the USA from the land of
unrestricted capitalism to the land of socialist redistribution.

On 6/28/2010 9:42 AM, ? wrote:
On Jun 28, 6:44 am, wrote:
On 6/28/2010 12:22 AM, ? wrote:

Mike asked where it all started. The real answer is probably when
hominids expanded outwards from the region of their origin in
Africa.

Or did you want to chase this back to a time before primates?

I don't want to chase this issue into any mental territory inhabited
by radical liberals who seek to change the USA from the land of
unrestricted capitalism to the land of socialist redistribution.

I'm a conservative and a capitalist and a realist who knows that
unrestricted capitalism doesn't work. There have to be ground
rules that make it work. Read Hayek's _The Road to Serfdom_
and perhaps you'll begin to understand something.

On Jun 28, 8:42*am, purple wrote:


I don't want to chase this issue into any mental territory inhabited
by radical liberals who seek to change the USA from the land of
unrestricted capitalism to the land of socialist redistribution.

I'm a conservative and a capitalist and a realist who knows that
unrestricted capitalism doesn't work. There have to be ground
rules that make it work. Read Hayek's _The Road to Serfdom_
and perhaps you'll begin to understand something.

Not likely.

The post you were replying to was from "Krusty"; a constantly morphing
toy-Nazi troll who refers to anyone who doesn't actually goose-step or
want to re-institute slavery as a "radical liberal". But welcome to
the commune anyway, tovarisch!

We conservative capitalist realists have to stick together, since
there don't seem to be too many of us left.

On Jun 27, 10:13*pm, purple wrote:
On 6/27/2010 10:58 PM, Mike wrote:

you and other proto crypto dimwits ought to check out Reagan on immigration.

Reagan screwed up more than immigration. If you look closely enough
I don't think you'll find any president who didn't make some
significant bad calls.

* when do you think all this started?

With the Mayflower.

Nope goes back further.

....but that's okay it's the lack of an education system in america
that is at fault...so blame your parents for not voting for more mil
levies and demanding education not indoctrination.