"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 15:27:47 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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For common stuff like
life-expectancy we rate at the 3rd World level.

Statistics cite por favor.

Look it up yourself if you're able. If you're not, let me know.

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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 15:27:47 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

For common stuff like
life-expectancy we rate at the 3rd World level.

Statistics cite por favor.

Look it up yourself if you're able. If you're not, let me know.


EMpty head. Figures that you made it up.

On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 21:57:28 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 15:27:47 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

For common stuff like
life-expectancy we rate at the 3rd World level.

Statistics cite por favor.

Look it up yourself if you're able. If you're not, let me know.


Isn't that a curious response. You throw out a statistic that says
the US rates very poorly on life expectancy. I'm shocked by this
statement and ask where it came from. You, apparently not knowing
where it came from either, asks me to look it up.

Frankly I don't believe your statistic. It may be true for certain
groups that have made poor life style decisions, but it's quite
unlikely to be true for the population as a whole.

How much time have you spent in the 3rd world?

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 21:57:28 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 15:27:47 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

For common stuff like
life-expectancy we rate at the 3rd World level.

Statistics cite por favor.

Look it up yourself if you're able. If you're not, let me know.


Isn't that a curious response. You throw out a statistic that says
the US rates very poorly on life expectancy. I'm shocked by this
statement and ask where it came from. You, apparently not knowing
where it came from either, asks me to look it up.

Frankly I don't believe your statistic. It may be true for certain
groups that have made poor life style decisions, but it's quite
unlikely to be true for the population as a whole.

How much time have you spent in the 3rd world?

Who cares if _you_ don't believe it. You don't believe the Earth is a
sphere. So what.

What does my time in a 3rd World country got to do with our medical outcomes
compared to another 1st World country?

Feel free to believe what you want. In fact, don't look it up. I don't want
you to hurt yourself.

On 6/25/10 12:40 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 10:09:09 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 21:57:28 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


wrote in message
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On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 15:27:47 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

For common stuff like
life-expectancy we rate at the 3rd World level.

Statistics cite por favor.

Look it up yourself if you're able. If you're not, let me know.


Isn't that a curious response. You throw out a statistic that says
the US rates very poorly on life expectancy. I'm shocked by this
statement and ask where it came from. You, apparently not knowing
where it came from either, asks me to look it up.

Frankly I don't believe your statistic. It may be true for certain
groups that have made poor life style decisions, but it's quite
unlikely to be true for the population as a whole.

How much time have you spent in the 3rd world?

Japan (top of the list) is 82.6
US is 78.2
Just as a sanity check, most of SubSaharan Africa is in the 40s and
50s.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ife_expectancy

I wonder what happens when you weight this list by crime death and
obesity rates.


Crikey...*Cuba* ranks just ahead of the United States.

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 10:09:09 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 21:57:28 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 15:27:47 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

For common stuff like
life-expectancy we rate at the 3rd World level.

Statistics cite por favor.

Look it up yourself if you're able. If you're not, let me know.


Isn't that a curious response. You throw out a statistic that says
the US rates very poorly on life expectancy. I'm shocked by this
statement and ask where it came from. You, apparently not knowing
where it came from either, asks me to look it up.

Frankly I don't believe your statistic. It may be true for certain
groups that have made poor life style decisions, but it's quite
unlikely to be true for the population as a whole.

How much time have you spent in the 3rd world?

Japan (top of the list) is 82.6
US is 78.2
Just as a sanity check, most of SubSaharan Africa is in the 40s and
50s.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ife_expectancy

I wonder what happens when you weight this list by crime death and
obesity rates.

Hey, are you calling me an obese criminal? Wait, never mind....

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On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 10:09:09 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 21:57:28 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 15:27:47 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

For common stuff like
life-expectancy we rate at the 3rd World level.

Statistics cite por favor.

Look it up yourself if you're able. If you're not, let me know.


Isn't that a curious response. You throw out a statistic that says
the US rates very poorly on life expectancy. I'm shocked by this
statement and ask where it came from. You, apparently not knowing
where it came from either, asks me to look it up.

Frankly I don't believe your statistic. It may be true for certain
groups that have made poor life style decisions, but it's quite
unlikely to be true for the population as a whole.

How much time have you spent in the 3rd world?

Japan (top of the list) is 82.6
US is 78.2
Just as a sanity check, most of SubSaharan Africa is in the 40s and
50s.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ife_expectancy

I wonder what happens when you weight this list by crime death and
obesity rates.

I wonder what would happen to crime death and obesity rates if we actually
had sane gun regulation and forced McDs to act a bit more in the public's
best interest rather than rely on the "free market."

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On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 12:08:35 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Japan (top of the list) is 82.6
US is 78.2
Just as a sanity check, most of SubSaharan Africa is in the 40s and
50s.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ife_expectancy

I wonder what happens when you weight this list by crime death and
obesity rates.

I wonder what would happen to crime death and obesity rates if we actually
had sane gun regulation
Probably not much. We stab more people per 100,000 than UK murders
(all causes). Netherlands and Japan are better than that.

and forced McDs to act a bit more in the public's
best interest rather than rely on the "free market."


McDonalds is just the lightning rod for our obesity problems.
Look at the portion sizes at Red Lobster or Olive Garden.
The average size of a dinner plate in the 50s was 9". It is 12" now.
Remember when a Coke was 7 ounces. A "SMALL" coke is now at least 12
ounces and may be 20. A Big Gulp is 64.
A candy bar was about the size of your thumb.
They called a 3 Musketeers bar that because you were supposed to break
it into 3 pieces and split it with 2 friends. It used to even be
scored. Now it is twice as big and people eat the whole thing.

I watched Supersize me... blech...

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On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 14:55:00 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

McDonalds is just the lightning rod for our obesity problems.
Look at the portion sizes at Red Lobster or Olive Garden.
The average size of a dinner plate in the 50s was 9". It is 12" now.
Remember when a Coke was 7 ounces. A "SMALL" coke is now at least 12
ounces and may be 20. A Big Gulp is 64.
A candy bar was about the size of your thumb.
They called a 3 Musketeers bar that because you were supposed to break
it into 3 pieces and split it with 2 friends. It used to even be
scored. Now it is twice as big and people eat the whole thing.

I watched Supersize me... blech...


Like I said, McDonalds is just the lightning rod. Why single out
"fast" food when so many slow food places have all you can eat
specials?

Because McDs is ubiquitous in the US.

On 6/25/10 8:28 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 14:55:00 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

McDonalds is just the lightning rod for our obesity problems.
Look at the portion sizes at Red Lobster or Olive Garden.
The average size of a dinner plate in the 50s was 9". It is 12" now.
Remember when a Coke was 7 ounces. A "SMALL" coke is now at least 12
ounces and may be 20. A Big Gulp is 64.
A candy bar was about the size of your thumb.
They called a 3 Musketeers bar that because you were supposed to break
it into 3 pieces and split it with 2 friends. It used to even be
scored. Now it is twice as big and people eat the whole thing.

I watched Supersize me... blech...


Like I said, McDonalds is just the lightning rod. Why single out
"fast" food when so many slow food places have all you can eat
specials?


More moral equivalency.