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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 15:27:47 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

For common stuff like
life-expectancy we rate at the 3rd World level.

Statistics cite por favor.

Look it up yourself if you're able. If you're not, let me know.


EMpty head. Figures that you made it up.

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"I am Tosk" wrote in message
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In article ,
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On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 15:27:47 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

For common stuff like
life-expectancy we rate at the 3rd World level.

Statistics cite por favor.

Really, there will be no cite.. Only deflection, Harry and his sister do
it very well...

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese!

No. You're an idiot and that's a fact.


EMpty head is known for making stuff up.

On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 21:57:28 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 15:27:47 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

For common stuff like
life-expectancy we rate at the 3rd World level.

Statistics cite por favor.

Look it up yourself if you're able. If you're not, let me know.


Isn't that a curious response. You throw out a statistic that says
the US rates very poorly on life expectancy. I'm shocked by this
statement and ask where it came from. You, apparently not knowing
where it came from either, asks me to look it up.

Frankly I don't believe your statistic. It may be true for certain
groups that have made poor life style decisions, but it's quite
unlikely to be true for the population as a whole.

How much time have you spent in the 3rd world?

On Jun 25, 2:52*am, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"I am Tosk" wrote in l-september.org...





In article ,
says...

On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 15:27:47 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

For common stuff like
life-expectancy we rate at the 3rd World level.

Statistics cite por favor.

Really, there will be no cite.. Only deflection, Harry and his sister do
it very well...

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese!

No. You're an idiot and that's a fact.

Polly want a cracker?

On 6/25/10 12:27 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 06:05:51 -0400,
wrote:

Perhaps you could state your point a little more succinctly.


What I am suggesting is that very wealthy foreigners come here for
health care because the best we have to offer is skewed towards those
with endless amounts of money. At the same time, tens of millions of
Americans get ****ty health care because they don't have the amount of
money our system requires to pay for it. Wealthy foreigners head to
other countries, too, where quality care is available, but that
availability is also there for ordinary citizens, too.

Unfortunately that is the care everyone wants with this health care
plan. They all want an MRI for a hangnail and expect a referral to a
specialist. That is why our insurance rates are so high. Add to that a
run away drug culture that thinks you haven't really been to the
doctor unless you have 2 or 3 prescriptions and it becomes apparent
why we spend $8k a year.
I am the only person my age I know who is not taking a handful of
pills every day. The retail price is usually up in 3 figures a month
... but they are on a drug plan so it is invisible to them.
Why eat right and exercise, The Lipitor and Prinivil will fix it.


I take a multivitamin and a low dose aspirin every day. My daily "drug"
habit runs about 25 cents, I'd guess. Even generic vitamins ain't cheap.

On 6/25/10 12:40 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 10:09:09 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 21:57:28 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


wrote in message
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On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 15:27:47 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

For common stuff like
life-expectancy we rate at the 3rd World level.

Statistics cite por favor.

Look it up yourself if you're able. If you're not, let me know.


Isn't that a curious response. You throw out a statistic that says
the US rates very poorly on life expectancy. I'm shocked by this
statement and ask where it came from. You, apparently not knowing
where it came from either, asks me to look it up.

Frankly I don't believe your statistic. It may be true for certain
groups that have made poor life style decisions, but it's quite
unlikely to be true for the population as a whole.

How much time have you spent in the 3rd world?

Japan (top of the list) is 82.6
US is 78.2
Just as a sanity check, most of SubSaharan Africa is in the 40s and
50s.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ife_expectancy

I wonder what happens when you weight this list by crime death and
obesity rates.


Crikey...*Cuba* ranks just ahead of the United States.

In article ,
says...

On 6/25/10 12:27 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 06:05:51 -0400,
wrote:

Perhaps you could state your point a little more succinctly.


What I am suggesting is that very wealthy foreigners come here for
health care because the best we have to offer is skewed towards those
with endless amounts of money. At the same time, tens of millions of
Americans get ****ty health care because they don't have the amount of
money our system requires to pay for it. Wealthy foreigners head to
other countries, too, where quality care is available, but that
availability is also there for ordinary citizens, too.

Unfortunately that is the care everyone wants with this health care
plan. They all want an MRI for a hangnail and expect a referral to a
specialist. That is why our insurance rates are so high. Add to that a
run away drug culture that thinks you haven't really been to the
doctor unless you have 2 or 3 prescriptions and it becomes apparent
why we spend $8k a year.
I am the only person my age I know who is not taking a handful of
pills every day. The retail price is usually up in 3 figures a month
... but they are on a drug plan so it is invisible to them.
Why eat right and exercise, The Lipitor and Prinivil will fix it.


I take a multivitamin and a low dose aspirin every day. My daily "drug"
habit runs about 25 cents, I'd guess. Even generic vitamins ain't cheap.

You are wasting your money on the multivitamin.

On 6/25/10 12:45 PM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

On 6/25/10 12:27 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 06:05:51 -0400,
wrote:

Perhaps you could state your point a little more succinctly.


What I am suggesting is that very wealthy foreigners come here for
health care because the best we have to offer is skewed towards those
with endless amounts of money. At the same time, tens of millions of
Americans get ****ty health care because they don't have the amount of
money our system requires to pay for it. Wealthy foreigners head to
other countries, too, where quality care is available, but that
availability is also there for ordinary citizens, too.

Unfortunately that is the care everyone wants with this health care
plan. They all want an MRI for a hangnail and expect a referral to a
specialist. That is why our insurance rates are so high. Add to that a
run away drug culture that thinks you haven't really been to the
doctor unless you have 2 or 3 prescriptions and it becomes apparent
why we spend $8k a year.
I am the only person my age I know who is not taking a handful of
pills every day. The retail price is usually up in 3 figures a month
... but they are on a drug plan so it is invisible to them.
Why eat right and exercise, The Lipitor and Prinivil will fix it.


I take a multivitamin and a low dose aspirin every day. My daily "drug"
habit runs about 25 cents, I'd guess. Even generic vitamins ain't cheap.

You are wasting your money on the multivitamin.



My dick has grown from 7" to 9.25" since starting the vitamin regimen.

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 10:09:09 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 21:57:28 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 15:27:47 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

For common stuff like
life-expectancy we rate at the 3rd World level.

Statistics cite por favor.

Look it up yourself if you're able. If you're not, let me know.


Isn't that a curious response. You throw out a statistic that says
the US rates very poorly on life expectancy. I'm shocked by this
statement and ask where it came from. You, apparently not knowing
where it came from either, asks me to look it up.

Frankly I don't believe your statistic. It may be true for certain
groups that have made poor life style decisions, but it's quite
unlikely to be true for the population as a whole.

How much time have you spent in the 3rd world?

Japan (top of the list) is 82.6
US is 78.2
Just as a sanity check, most of SubSaharan Africa is in the 40s and
50s.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ife_expectancy

I wonder what happens when you weight this list by crime death and
obesity rates.

Hey, are you calling me an obese criminal? Wait, never mind....

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 21:55:37 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

As to what they have in Canada, most Canadians find it quite acceptable.
So,
you're fabricating like crazy.

No fabrication. Canadians we have met do not like the system at all.
Care is being rationed. There are long waits for treatment with
conditions not considered "life threatening". They are not allowed to
go outside the system. Many go to the US for treatment if they can
afford it. Good doctors are leaving to practice elsewhere.

Is that your idea of health care nirvana?


Say what?
Yes. if you need a knee, or hip replacement, you'll wait longer than you
like. The beauty is...nothing stops those people from going elsewhere (such
as USA) if they can afford it.
In most cases it depends on what province you live in.
As far as doctors go... they can make more money south of the border... but
with that comes drastic insurance rates. My next door neighbour was a
family physician and he researched it all out...... decided to stay.
I lost our family doctor to that southern movement quite a few years ago.
his brother took over the practice... within walking distance of my home.
the older brother is now back working out oh his younger brothers office.
Go figure!
On the other side of me is a well known local cancer specialist. I'm sure
she could go anywhere, and command a handsome fee, but she stays right here.
Some say 'quality of life' is an important part of the equation. Money
isn't everything.