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On 6/23/2010 6:19 PM, oxtail wrote:
Fred C. Dobbs wrote:

On 6/23/2010 1:21 PM, oxtail wrote:
Fred C. Dobbs wrote:

On 6/23/2010 12:23 PM, oxtail wrote:
Fred C. Dobbs wrote:

On 6/23/2010 11:15 AM, oxtail wrote:
Fred C. Dobbs wrote:

A corporation is not analogous to a species. A corporation is
analogous to a single organism within a species.

Corporations taken together are not analogous to a species; they
are analogous to a breed.


Species, subspecies, breeds.
Any of them will do.

Sorry, no - they're not the same.


Do farm animal breeds have any rights?

Breeds don't have rights. Animals individually don't have rights.


Do you think it is possible
for us to give them some?

Animals? No.


How about robots?


No.



How about human families?


Families do not have rights.
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Fred C. Dobbs wrote:

On 6/23/2010 6:19 PM, oxtail wrote:
Fred C. Dobbs wrote:

On 6/23/2010 1:21 PM, oxtail wrote:
Fred C. Dobbs wrote:

On 6/23/2010 12:23 PM, oxtail wrote:
Fred C. Dobbs wrote:

On 6/23/2010 11:15 AM, oxtail wrote:
Fred C. Dobbs wrote:

A corporation is not analogous to a species. A corporation is
analogous to a single organism within a species.

Corporations taken together are not analogous to a species; they
are analogous to a breed.


Species, subspecies, breeds.
Any of them will do.

Sorry, no - they're not the same.


Do farm animal breeds have any rights?

Breeds don't have rights. Animals individually don't have rights.


Do you think it is possible
for us to give them some?

Animals? No.


How about robots?

No.



How about human families?


Families do not have rights.



Actually in the old days,
certain families were given monopoly rights
in many cultures.

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On 6/23/2010 8:06 PM, oxtail wrote:
Fred C. Dobbs wrote:

On 6/23/2010 6:19 PM, oxtail wrote:
Fred C. Dobbs wrote:

On 6/23/2010 1:21 PM, oxtail wrote:
Fred C. Dobbs wrote:

On 6/23/2010 12:23 PM, oxtail wrote:
Fred C. Dobbs wrote:

On 6/23/2010 11:15 AM, oxtail wrote:
Fred C. Dobbs wrote:

A corporation is not analogous to a species. A corporation is
analogous to a single organism within a species.

Corporations taken together are not analogous to a species; they
are analogous to a breed.


Species, subspecies, breeds.
Any of them will do.

Sorry, no - they're not the same.


Do farm animal breeds have any rights?

Breeds don't have rights. Animals individually don't have rights.


Do you think it is possible
for us to give them some?

Animals? No.


How about robots?

No.


How about human families?


Families do not have rights.



Actually in the old days,
certain families were given monopoly rights
in many cultures.


The family didn't hold the right. The head of the family held it.
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Fred C. Dobbs wrote:

On 6/23/2010 8:06 PM, oxtail wrote:
Fred C. Dobbs wrote:

On 6/23/2010 6:19 PM, oxtail wrote:
Fred C. Dobbs wrote:

On 6/23/2010 1:21 PM, oxtail wrote:
Fred C. Dobbs wrote:

On 6/23/2010 12:23 PM, oxtail wrote:
Fred C. Dobbs wrote:

On 6/23/2010 11:15 AM, oxtail wrote:
Fred C. Dobbs wrote:

A corporation is not analogous to a species. A corporation is
analogous to a single organism within a species.

Corporations taken together are not analogous to a species;
they are analogous to a breed.


Species, subspecies, breeds.
Any of them will do.

Sorry, no - they're not the same.


Do farm animal breeds have any rights?

Breeds don't have rights. Animals individually don't have
rights.


Do you think it is possible
for us to give them some?

Animals? No.


How about robots?

No.


How about human families?

Families do not have rights.



Actually in the old days,
certain families were given monopoly rights in many cultures.


The family didn't hold the right. The head of the family held it.



Where?

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On 6/23/2010 8:29 PM, oxtail wrote:
Fred C. Dobbs wrote:

On 6/23/2010 8:06 PM, oxtail wrote:
Fred C. Dobbs wrote:

On 6/23/2010 6:19 PM, oxtail wrote:
Fred C. Dobbs wrote:

On 6/23/2010 1:21 PM, oxtail wrote:
Fred C. Dobbs wrote:

On 6/23/2010 12:23 PM, oxtail wrote:
Fred C. Dobbs wrote:

On 6/23/2010 11:15 AM, oxtail wrote:
Fred C. Dobbs wrote:

A corporation is not analogous to a species. A corporation is
analogous to a single organism within a species.

Corporations taken together are not analogous to a species;
they are analogous to a breed.


Species, subspecies, breeds.
Any of them will do.

Sorry, no - they're not the same.


Do farm animal breeds have any rights?

Breeds don't have rights. Animals individually don't have
rights.


Do you think it is possible
for us to give them some?

Animals? No.


How about robots?

No.


How about human families?

Families do not have rights.


Actually in the old days,
certain families were given monopoly rights in many cultures.


The family didn't hold the right. The head of the family held it.



Where?


Wherever the monopoly granters could enforce the monopoly.

You are such a simpleton. What's funny is that you imagine yourself the
most clever boy in the class, and that alone makes you a simpleton. You
dance, but not to your own tune.


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"Fred C. Dobbs" wrote in
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...
On 6/23/2010 6:19 PM, oxtail wrote:
Fred C. Dobbs wrote:

On 6/23/2010 1:21 PM, oxtail wrote:
Fred C. Dobbs wrote:

On 6/23/2010 12:23 PM, oxtail wrote:
Fred C. Dobbs wrote:

On 6/23/2010 11:15 AM, oxtail wrote:
Fred C. Dobbs wrote:

A corporation is not analogous to a species. A
corporation is
analogous to a single organism within a species.

Corporations taken together are not analogous to a
species; they
are analogous to a breed.


Species, subspecies, breeds.
Any of them will do.

Sorry, no - they're not the same.


Do farm animal breeds have any rights?

Breeds don't have rights. Animals individually
don't have rights.


Do you think it is possible
for us to give them some?

Animals? No.


How about robots?

No.



How about human families?


Families do not have rights.


there is a right to family life.
do you think it should be respected, to any extent, in
animals?
slaves?


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Fred C. Dobbs wrote:

On 6/23/2010 8:29 PM, oxtail wrote:
Fred C. Dobbs wrote:

On 6/23/2010 8:06 PM, oxtail wrote:
Fred C. Dobbs wrote:

On 6/23/2010 6:19 PM, oxtail wrote:
Fred C. Dobbs wrote:

On 6/23/2010 1:21 PM, oxtail wrote:
Fred C. Dobbs wrote:

On 6/23/2010 12:23 PM, oxtail wrote:
Fred C. Dobbs wrote:

On 6/23/2010 11:15 AM, oxtail wrote:
Fred C. Dobbs wrote:

A corporation is not analogous to a species. A corporation
is analogous to a single organism within a species.

Corporations taken together are not analogous to a species;
they are analogous to a breed.


Species, subspecies, breeds.
Any of them will do.

Sorry, no - they're not the same.


Do farm animal breeds have any rights?

Breeds don't have rights. Animals individually don't have
rights.


Do you think it is possible
for us to give them some?

Animals? No.


How about robots?

No.


How about human families?

Families do not have rights.


Actually in the old days,
certain families were given monopoly rights in many cultures.

The family didn't hold the right. The head of the family held it.



Where?


Wherever the monopoly granters could enforce the monopoly.

You are such a simpleton. What's funny is that you imagine yourself the
most clever boy in the class, and that alone makes you a simpleton. You
dance, but not to your own tune.



You sound upset.

Can the right be inherited
even before the head of the family die?

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On 6/23/2010 9:12 PM, oxtail wrote:
Fred C. Dobbs wrote:

On 6/23/2010 8:29 PM, oxtail wrote:
Fred C. Dobbs wrote:

On 6/23/2010 8:06 PM, oxtail wrote:
Fred C. Dobbs wrote:

On 6/23/2010 6:19 PM, oxtail wrote:
Fred C. Dobbs wrote:

On 6/23/2010 1:21 PM, oxtail wrote:
Fred C. Dobbs wrote:

On 6/23/2010 12:23 PM, oxtail wrote:
Fred C. Dobbs wrote:

On 6/23/2010 11:15 AM, oxtail wrote:
Fred C. Dobbs wrote:

A corporation is not analogous to a species. A corporation
is analogous to a single organism within a species.

Corporations taken together are not analogous to a species;
they are analogous to a breed.


Species, subspecies, breeds.
Any of them will do.

Sorry, no - they're not the same.


Do farm animal breeds have any rights?

Breeds don't have rights. Animals individually don't have
rights.


Do you think it is possible
for us to give them some?

Animals? No.


How about robots?

No.


How about human families?

Families do not have rights.


Actually in the old days,
certain families were given monopoly rights in many cultures.

The family didn't hold the right. The head of the family held it.


Where?


Wherever the monopoly granters could enforce the monopoly.

You are such a simpleton. What's funny is that you imagine yourself the
most clever boy in the class, and that alone makes you a simpleton. You
dance, but not to your own tune.



You sound upset.


No, I don't. That comment was just another lame "zen game" feint,
easily brushed aside.

You sound desperate. You really do. You also are a simpleton - a
simpleton who deludes himself with the fantasy that he's complex.
That's the most amusing kind of simpleton.
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On Jun 23, 10:18*pm, "Fred C. Dobbs"
wrote:
On 6/23/2010 9:12 PM, oxtail wrote:





Fred C. Dobbs wrote:


On 6/23/2010 8:29 PM, oxtail wrote:
Fred C. Dobbs wrote:


On 6/23/2010 8:06 PM, oxtail wrote:
Fred C. Dobbs wrote:


On 6/23/2010 6:19 PM, oxtail wrote:
Fred C. Dobbs wrote:


On 6/23/2010 1:21 PM, oxtail wrote:
Fred C. Dobbs wrote:


On 6/23/2010 12:23 PM, oxtail wrote:
Fred C. Dobbs wrote:


On 6/23/2010 11:15 AM, oxtail wrote:
Fred C. Dobbs wrote:


A corporation is not analogous to a species. *A corporation
is analogous to a single organism within a species.


Corporations taken together are not analogous to a species;
they are analogous to a breed.


Species, subspecies, breeds.
Any of them will do.


Sorry, no - they're not the same.


Do farm animal breeds have any rights?


Breeds don't have rights. *Animals individually don't have
rights.


Do you think it is possible
for us to give them some?


Animals? *No.


How about robots?


No.


How about human families?


Families do not have rights.


Actually in the old days,
certain families were given monopoly rights in many cultures.


The family didn't hold the right. *The head of the family held it.


Where?


Wherever the monopoly granters could enforce the monopoly.


You are such a simpleton. *What's funny is that you imagine yourself the
most clever boy in the class, and that alone makes you a simpleton. *You
dance, but not to your own tune.


You sound upset.


No, I don't. *That comment was just another lame "zen game" feint,
easily brushed aside.

You sound desperate. *You really do. *You also are a simpleton - a
simpleton who deludes himself with the fantasy that he's complex.
That's the most amusing kind of simpleton.-


That would be you, Goo.

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On 6/23/2010 11:41 PM, Mr.Smartypants wrote:
On Jun 23, 10:18 pm, "Fred C.
wrote:
On 6/23/2010 9:12 PM, oxtail wrote:





Fred C. Dobbs wrote:


On 6/23/2010 8:29 PM, oxtail wrote:
Fred C. Dobbs wrote:


On 6/23/2010 8:06 PM, oxtail wrote:
Fred C. Dobbs wrote:


On 6/23/2010 6:19 PM, oxtail wrote:
Fred C. Dobbs wrote:


On 6/23/2010 1:21 PM, oxtail wrote:
Fred C. Dobbs wrote:


On 6/23/2010 12:23 PM, oxtail wrote:
Fred C. Dobbs wrote:


On 6/23/2010 11:15 AM, oxtail wrote:
Fred C. Dobbs wrote:


A corporation is not analogous to a species. A corporation
is analogous to a single organism within a species.


Corporations taken together are not analogous to a species;
they are analogous to a breed.


Species, subspecies, breeds.
Any of them will do.


Sorry, no - they're not the same.


Do farm animal breeds have any rights?


Breeds don't have rights. Animals individually don't have
rights.


Do you think it is possible
for us to give them some?


Animals? No.


How about robots?


No.


How about human families?


Families do not have rights.


Actually in the old days,
certain families were given monopoly rights in many cultures.


The family didn't hold the right. The head of the family held it.


Where?


Wherever the monopoly granters could enforce the monopoly.


You are such a simpleton. What's funny is that you imagine yourself the
most clever boy in the class, and that alone makes you a simpleton. You
dance, but not to your own tune.


You sound upset.


No, I don't. That comment was just another lame "zen game" feint,
easily brushed aside.

You sound desperate. You really do. You also are a simpleton - a
simpleton who deludes himself with the fantasy that he's complex.
That's the most amusing kind of simpleton.-


That would be


There was no 12-year-old, you stupid ****stain.
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