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On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 21:50:14 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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I have already been criticized about my guess that he will say Obama
wants to get out before the job was done. (disagreeing with the
timetable was what I said)
Fortunately that guess will be tested on Sunday I imagine so we will
know pretty quickly


Sorry that was a BP thing. He doesn't think that is the way McC is
going.
Sorry, no idea what you're talking about.... something is happening on
Sunday re the general?


The Sunday morning talk shows. I am sure he will be on a couple of
them.

And we care because? He's a disgraced ex-officer who made a fool of himself.
The only thing he did that was positive and appropriate was tender his
resignation.

Generals going fishing
 

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And I suppose you were a flea on the wall and heard every word of what
transpired.
We do know one thing for sure. Obie wasn't pleased to have a four star
general of the army spit in his face.




The general was an out-of-control asshole whose mission, the one he
designed and implemented, was failing. He has a long history of shooting
off his mouth. He also has a booze problem, and wasn't he the general
who covered up the Tillman cluster****?

Generals are a dime a dozen.

Obama let him resign rather than fire him so that the general could keep
that fourth star and the benefits it brings. The general had no class.
The president does have class.

The four stars get you a little more in your retirement check, a better
table at the O-club and that is about it.

As you said Generals are a dime a dozen.

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On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 10:39:29 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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He didn't have a choice. He was told to resign. He follows orders. You're
an
idiot.


They really can't order him to resign but they can make it the most
attractive option.
Usually, in these situations, the guy actually wants the freedom to
speak freely so he goes. I just hope we don't have to hear the "old
soldier" speech.
I imagine he will be doing the Sunday shows the weekend after he is
separated. Then we will hear what he really thinks.

I think we already know what he "really thinks." The point is that it was
insubordination, and that can't be tolerated in the command staff.


My bet is we ain't heard nothin' yet.
This guy will write a book and do the talk show circuit, probably
ending up with a show on Fox or CNN.
I expect to see him Sunday if he gets mustered out by then.

He won't retire until the last day of a month. Most likely July 31st.

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On 24/06/2010 11:38 AM, nom=de=plume wrote:

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On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:04:45 -0600, Canuck57

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I hear being a general under Obama is a short term career job.

so was being a general under truman

and remember general shinseki, under bush?


Guess he might as well polish up the fishing rods and go fishing.

notice he never complains about the rich white frat boy who
screwed
this whole thing up?


Bush fired or "retired" many generals for speaking out. I think
Obama
should not fire him unless he believes that McCrystall can no
longer do
the job he was assigned to do.


Obama's ego will cause McCrystal to be fired.

He is a thin skinned little man, isn't he?

Actually, you short ****, several presidents have fired there generals
for less. Truman/McArthur, Lincoln fired several before finding Grant,
Johnson fired Lemay, McKinley fired Lemay, etc.

Bush fired Shinseki for telling the truth at a congressional hearing
where he was under oath. Does that count?

We will see, hasn't Obama done two generals? All the same I think Obama
be plotting a judge next.

He's plotting against you. You're next on his list to fire. Oh wait,
you're unemployed and unemployable. You're safe.. for now.


Clearly the man things like Chavez that he has no limits. Going to be
nice to see Obama fall when he goes too far.

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The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.

Things like Chavez??? You're an idiot.


If he said "thinks", would that make sense to you? You must have trouble
thinking with that EMpty head of yours.

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On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 15:26:09 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 10:39:29 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 20:09:08 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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He didn't have a choice. He was told to resign. He follows orders.
You're
an
idiot.


They really can't order him to resign but they can make it the most
attractive option.
Usually, in these situations, the guy actually wants the freedom to
speak freely so he goes. I just hope we don't have to hear the "old
soldier" speech.
I imagine he will be doing the Sunday shows the weekend after he is
separated. Then we will hear what he really thinks.

I think we already know what he "really thinks." The point is that it
was
insubordination, and that can't be tolerated in the command staff.


My bet is we ain't heard nothin' yet.
This guy will write a book and do the talk show circuit, probably
ending up with a show on Fox or CNN.
I expect to see him Sunday if he gets mustered out by then.

Well, yet again it's all about what might or might not happen. The fact
is
that he was insubordinate and that was way off base. He knew this, but he
was so arrogant that it didn't matter. His reputation will be tarnished
for
his dismissal (and for other things like the Tilman debacle).


This guy still has a lot of credibility. You don't get to where he was
without it.

Yes, and he lost a lot also.

It is clear he was very frustrated with the people in the White House.

So what. He should have followed the prescribed protocol and not
complained to a reporter. That's called insubordination.

I have already been criticized about my guess that he will say Obama
wants to get out before the job was done. (disagreeing with the
timetable was what I said)
Fortunately that guess will be tested on Sunday I imagine so we will
know pretty quickly

Sorry, no idea what you're talking about.... something is happening on
Sunday re the general?


I hope so. Sunday is when all the political talking heads go on TV.

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On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 23:51:24 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 21:50:14 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

I have already been criticized about my guess that he will say Obama
wants to get out before the job was done. (disagreeing with the
timetable was what I said)
Fortunately that guess will be tested on Sunday I imagine so we will
know pretty quickly


Sorry that was a BP thing. He doesn't think that is the way McC is
going.
Sorry, no idea what you're talking about.... something is happening on
Sunday re the general?


The Sunday morning talk shows. I am sure he will be on a couple of
them.

And we care because? He's a disgraced ex-officer who made a fool of himself.
The only thing he did that was positive and appropriate was tender his
resignation.

Disgraced is a stretch. He said some inappropriate things about his
boss but I imagine half the country agrees with him. There are plenty
of people who are not happy with the way the war is going and think we
should be ramping up, not winding down. Bob P seems to be one of them
and calls me a coward because I want to see our kids come home alive.


Ramping up in Afghanistan would get us what, exactly, besides billets
for U.S. military officers?

Generals going fishing
 

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On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 23:51:24 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 21:50:14 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

I have already been criticized about my guess that he will say Obama
wants to get out before the job was done. (disagreeing with the
timetable was what I said)
Fortunately that guess will be tested on Sunday I imagine so we will
know pretty quickly


Sorry that was a BP thing. He doesn't think that is the way McC is
going.
Sorry, no idea what you're talking about.... something is happening on
Sunday re the general?


The Sunday morning talk shows. I am sure he will be on a couple of
them.

And we care because? He's a disgraced ex-officer who made a fool of
himself.
The only thing he did that was positive and appropriate was tender his
resignation.

Disgraced is a stretch. He said some inappropriate things about his
boss but I imagine half the country agrees with him. There are plenty
of people who are not happy with the way the war is going and think we
should be ramping up, not winding down. Bob P seems to be one of them
and calls me a coward because I want to see our kids come home alive.
the latest poll shows Opie to have a dismal 45% aproval rating. That's
pretty close to half.

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On 24/06/2010 11:38 AM, nom=de=plume wrote:

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On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:04:45 -0600, Canuck57

wrote:


I hear being a general under Obama is a short term career job.

so was being a general under truman

and remember general shinseki, under bush?


Guess he might as well polish up the fishing rods and go
fishing.

notice he never complains about the rich white frat boy who
screwed
this whole thing up?


Bush fired or "retired" many generals for speaking out. I think
Obama
should not fire him unless he believes that McCrystall can no
longer do
the job he was assigned to do.


Obama's ego will cause McCrystal to be fired.

He is a thin skinned little man, isn't he?

Actually, you short ****, several presidents have fired there generals
for less. Truman/McArthur, Lincoln fired several before finding Grant,
Johnson fired Lemay, McKinley fired Lemay, etc.

Bush fired Shinseki for telling the truth at a congressional hearing
where he was under oath. Does that count?

We will see, hasn't Obama done two generals? All the same I think Obama
be plotting a judge next.

He's plotting against you. You're next on his list to fire. Oh wait,
you're unemployed and unemployable. You're safe.. for now.


Clearly the man things like Chavez that he has no limits. Going to be
nice to see Obama fall when he goes too far.

--
The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.

Things like Chavez??? You're an idiot.


If he said "thinks", would that make sense to you? You must have trouble
thinking with that EMpty head of yours.


You must have trouble thinking in general.

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On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 23:51:24 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 21:50:14 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

I have already been criticized about my guess that he will say Obama
wants to get out before the job was done. (disagreeing with the
timetable was what I said)
Fortunately that guess will be tested on Sunday I imagine so we will
know pretty quickly


Sorry that was a BP thing. He doesn't think that is the way McC is
going.
Sorry, no idea what you're talking about.... something is happening on
Sunday re the general?


The Sunday morning talk shows. I am sure he will be on a couple of
them.

And we care because? He's a disgraced ex-officer who made a fool of
himself.
The only thing he did that was positive and appropriate was tender his
resignation.

Disgraced is a stretch. He said some inappropriate things about his
boss but I imagine half the country agrees with him. There are plenty
of people who are not happy with the way the war is going and think we
should be ramping up, not winding down. Bob P seems to be one of them
and calls me a coward because I want to see our kids come home alive.

Come on! He got fired (basically). He was a commanding general, now he's a
civilian. The President of the United States told him not to let the door
hit him in the butt on the way out. He went out the back gate. Even McCain
said he screwed up big time and it was inappropriate.

No idea who Bob P is. Not sure what that has to do with a fired army
officer.

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On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 23:51:24 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 21:50:14 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

I have already been criticized about my guess that he will say Obama
wants to get out before the job was done. (disagreeing with the
timetable was what I said)
Fortunately that guess will be tested on Sunday I imagine so we will
know pretty quickly


Sorry that was a BP thing. He doesn't think that is the way McC is
going.
Sorry, no idea what you're talking about.... something is happening on
Sunday re the general?


The Sunday morning talk shows. I am sure he will be on a couple of
them.

And we care because? He's a disgraced ex-officer who made a fool of
himself.
The only thing he did that was positive and appropriate was tender his
resignation.

Disgraced is a stretch. He said some inappropriate things about his
boss but I imagine half the country agrees with him. There are plenty
of people who are not happy with the way the war is going and think we
should be ramping up, not winding down. Bob P seems to be one of them
and calls me a coward because I want to see our kids come home alive.
the latest poll shows Opie to have a dismal 45% aproval rating. That's
pretty close to half.


You're an idiot. Reagan's approval rating at this time in his presidency
were lower.