One of my recent students who shall remain nameless, failed to
complete a homework assignment after apparently losing interest in the
subject. Therefore I will throw it open to the group.

You are in a 40 something boat, power or sail makes no difference,
anchored in over 40 feet of water with 3/8ths chain and a 60 pound
anchor. The combination of chain and anchor weigh about 150 pounds
not counting the large mud ball that wants to come up also, easily 200
pounds total. The chain and anchor are worth something over $1500
and not easily replaced in remote locations.

The problem: The anchor windlass has failed in some unfortunate way,
and not easily repaired. How do you retrieve your expensive anchor
and chain?

Wayne.B wrote:
One of my recent students who shall remain nameless, failed to
complete a homework assignment after apparently losing interest in the
subject. Therefore I will throw it open to the group.

You are in a 40 something boat, power or sail makes no difference,
anchored in over 40 feet of water with 3/8ths chain and a 60 pound
anchor. The combination of chain and anchor weigh about 150 pounds
not counting the large mud ball that wants to come up also, easily 200
pounds total. The chain and anchor are worth something over $1500
and not easily replaced in remote locations.

The problem: The anchor windlass has failed in some unfortunate way,
and not easily repaired. How do you retrieve your expensive anchor
and chain?

If you're able-bodied and strong you just haul it up by hand.
If you have other crew they can haul with you.
If you're "a recent student" there are other ways.
Maybe just watch somebody else do it.
Or maybe pitch in with some ideas and effort.
I won't be the student who always raises his hand first.
Let's give the lubbers a chance to show their stuff.
Harry? DePlume?

Jim - The Salt.

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
One of my recent students who shall remain nameless, failed to
complete a homework assignment after apparently losing interest in the
subject. Therefore I will throw it open to the group.

You are in a 40 something boat, power or sail makes no difference,
anchored in over 40 feet of water with 3/8ths chain and a 60 pound
anchor. The combination of chain and anchor weigh about 150 pounds
not counting the large mud ball that wants to come up also, easily 200
pounds total. The chain and anchor are worth something over $1500
and not easily replaced in remote locations.

The problem: The anchor windlass has failed in some unfortunate way,
and not easily repaired. How do you retrieve your expensive anchor
and chain?

Well, you don't do what Larry said, "If the windlass fails, you cut and run.
I'll bet there are tens of
thousands of anchors on the bottom of the ocean that were stuck and the
Captain had no other choice."

Do I get 1/2 credit?

"Jim" wrote in message
...
Wayne.B wrote:
One of my recent students who shall remain nameless, failed to
complete a homework assignment after apparently losing interest in the
subject. Therefore I will throw it open to the group.

You are in a 40 something boat, power or sail makes no difference,
anchored in over 40 feet of water with 3/8ths chain and a 60 pound
anchor. The combination of chain and anchor weigh about 150 pounds
not counting the large mud ball that wants to come up also, easily 200
pounds total. The chain and anchor are worth something over $1500
and not easily replaced in remote locations.

The problem: The anchor windlass has failed in some unfortunate way,
and not easily repaired. How do you retrieve your expensive anchor
and chain?

If you're able-bodied and strong you just haul it up by hand.
If you have other crew they can haul with you.
If you're "a recent student" there are other ways.
Maybe just watch somebody else do it.
Or maybe pitch in with some ideas and effort.
I won't be the student who always raises his hand first.
Let's give the lubbers a chance to show their stuff.
Harry? DePlume?

Jim - The Salt.

My suggestion was, drive up to the anchor while pulling in the chain, then
you only have to pull up a relatively small amount. Actually, it was, I
believe YOUR suggestion. So, feel free to ask Wayne for additional
clarification, since he's the "expert."

On 21/06/2010 4:49 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
One of my recent students who shall remain nameless, failed to
complete a homework assignment after apparently losing interest in the
subject. Therefore I will throw it open to the group.

You are in a 40 something boat, power or sail makes no difference,
anchored in over 40 feet of water with 3/8ths chain and a 60 pound
anchor. The combination of chain and anchor weigh about 150 pounds
not counting the large mud ball that wants to come up also, easily 200
pounds total. The chain and anchor are worth something over $1500
and not easily replaced in remote locations.

The problem: The anchor windlass has failed in some unfortunate way,
and not easily repaired. How do you retrieve your expensive anchor
and chain?

Drag the bottom with hook the right size to snag the chain.
--
The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.

On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 20:22:44 -0400, W1TEF
wrote:

The problem: The anchor windlass has failed in some unfortunate way,
and not easily repaired. How do you retrieve your expensive anchor
and chain?

Ok, so when you say "failed", you must mean that you can't use the
windlass's mechanical leverage either.

Yes, the windlass is totally inoperational for some reason.

Hmmm - what kind of anchor are we talking about here? Bruce style?
Danforth? Kedge? Plow? One of those weirdo delta wing types? It does
make a difference.

It could be any of those, all popular for various reasons. All we
know for sure is that it is a big, heavy, expensive anchor that is not
something we want to leave behind without a fight.

My assumption is that it is too heavy to be easily lifted by brute
force, and it is probably well set/dug in.

On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 17:25:20 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


"Wayne.B" wrote in message
.. .
One of my recent students who shall remain nameless, failed to
complete a homework assignment after apparently losing interest in the
subject. Therefore I will throw it open to the group.

You are in a 40 something boat, power or sail makes no difference,
anchored in over 40 feet of water with 3/8ths chain and a 60 pound
anchor. The combination of chain and anchor weigh about 150 pounds
not counting the large mud ball that wants to come up also, easily 200
pounds total. The chain and anchor are worth something over $1500
and not easily replaced in remote locations.

The problem: The anchor windlass has failed in some unfortunate way,
and not easily repaired. How do you retrieve your expensive anchor
and chain?

Well, you don't do what Larry said, "If the windlass fails, you cut and run.
I'll bet there are tens of
thousands of anchors on the bottom of the ocean that were stuck and the
Captain had no other choice."


I'm sure there are but this is not a case of the anchor being "stuck".

Do I get 1/2 credit?


No. Failure is not an option if you are cruising in the boondocks
and your primary anchor is playing hard to get.

On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 21:12:32 -0400, W1TEF
wrote:

Then, move up the anchor line until it is vertical. Move the anchor to
shallow water a little at a time taking up the slack. Eventually
you'll get it shallow enough to man handle it aboard.


That's creative although you are likely to run aground at some point.

I wonder something - on your GB, could you use the boom to lift it
aboard once you got it shallow enough?

That's one possibility but I have other ways that I like better. I'd
prefer to pull the anchor right where it sits for various reasons.

You're thinking in the right direction however.

On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 18:46:59 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

The problem: The anchor windlass has failed in some unfortunate way,
and not easily repaired. How do you retrieve your expensive anchor
and chain?

Drag the bottom with hook the right size to snag the chain.

Then what ?

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
One of my recent students who shall remain nameless, failed to
complete a homework assignment after apparently losing interest in the
subject. Therefore I will throw it open to the group.

You are in a 40 something boat, power or sail makes no difference,
anchored in over 40 feet of water with 3/8ths chain and a 60 pound
anchor. The combination of chain and anchor weigh about 150 pounds
not counting the large mud ball that wants to come up also, easily 200
pounds total. The chain and anchor are worth something over $1500
and not easily replaced in remote locations.

The problem: The anchor windlass has failed in some unfortunate way,
and not easily repaired. How do you retrieve your expensive anchor
and chain?

On the 33 footer I crewed on, we would motor forward to the anchor & a bit
beyond to help loosen it. We would also get a couple of deck hands to bounce
up & down on the foredeck... using the boats rise to help lift the anchor a
few feet at a time.