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Frogwatch[_2_] June 23rd 10 07:30 PM

Anchor Question
 
On Jun 23, 2:21*pm, "YukonBound" wrote:
"Harry" wrote in message

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In article ,
says...


"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
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"Larry" wrote in message
m...
nom=de=plume wrote:


"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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One of my recent students who shall remain nameless, failed to
complete a homework assignment after apparently losing interest in
the
subject. * Therefore I will throw it open to the group.


You are in a 40 something boat, power or sail makes no difference,
anchored in over 40 feet of water with 3/8ths chain and a 60 pound
anchor. * The combination of chain and anchor weigh about 150 pounds
not counting the large mud ball that wants to come up also, easily
200
pounds total. * The chain and anchor are worth something over $1500
and not easily replaced in remote locations.


The problem: *The anchor windlass has failed in some unfortunate
way,
and not easily repaired. * How do you retrieve your expensive anchor
and chain?


You'll notice that Larry never once acknowledged his statement "cut
and
run" was fundamentally wrong. You'll also notice that I gave a rather
complete solution to this question, and all the "men" have refused to
comment on it, even the "expert" Wayne.


I did respond. *I just don't monitor this group all day long like some
misfits.


So sorry for the lack of a response. *Maybe this pathetic "reminder"
will
elicit one.


Maybe you'll finally admit that you lied when you claimed you never
said
cut and run. Still waiting... why not be a man and admit it?


You are a man, right? That's what you're claiming?


A pathetic, sorry excuse for one.


Little buddy, you may want to tone that down a little. What with your
son hanging around your house drinking your beer and such.


That you Kevin Noble?
I have no beer around for my son to drink... but since it's getting warmer,
a nice case of 24 would come in handy.
Are you allowed to have liquor in the house...after the broken arms
incident?


As you already have the non-working windlass, the easiest thing is a
variation on the "Spanish Windlass" where you wrap the chain around
the windlass but put a bar with some length under one wrap. This bar
is used to sort of twist and force it to wrap more while somebody
takes the chain off as it wraps.

Another possibility using a rope is a Spanish Windlass where you use a
long loop between a cleat and the chain, A bar goes thru the loop and
is used to twist the loop like winding up a rubber band. You do not
get much length of pull but you can get a lot of leverage if you have
a long bar. As anchor comes up, cleat it off and repeat.

Harry[_5_] June 23rd 10 07:45 PM

Anchor Question
 
In article ,
says...

"Harry" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...

"Larry" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
One of my recent students who shall remain nameless, failed to
complete a homework assignment after apparently losing interest in
the
subject. Therefore I will throw it open to the group.

You are in a 40 something boat, power or sail makes no difference,
anchored in over 40 feet of water with 3/8ths chain and a 60 pound
anchor. The combination of chain and anchor weigh about 150 pounds
not counting the large mud ball that wants to come up also, easily
200
pounds total. The chain and anchor are worth something over $1500
and not easily replaced in remote locations.

The problem: The anchor windlass has failed in some unfortunate
way,
and not easily repaired. How do you retrieve your expensive anchor
and chain?

You'll notice that Larry never once acknowledged his statement "cut
and
run" was fundamentally wrong. You'll also notice that I gave a rather
complete solution to this question, and all the "men" have refused to
comment on it, even the "expert" Wayne.


I did respond. I just don't monitor this group all day long like some
misfits.

So sorry for the lack of a response. Maybe this pathetic "reminder"
will
elicit one.

Maybe you'll finally admit that you lied when you claimed you never
said
cut and run. Still waiting... why not be a man and admit it?

You are a man, right? That's what you're claiming?


A pathetic, sorry excuse for one.


Little buddy, you may want to tone that down a little. What with your
son hanging around your house drinking your beer and such.


That you Kevin Noble?
I have no beer around for my son to drink... but since it's getting warmer,
a nice case of 24 would come in handy.
Are you allowed to have liquor in the house...after the broken arms
incident?


I am Harry, numbnuts. And what does liquor have to do with beer? I have
no broken arms, little buddy and you know that. As for beer, I don't
touch the stuff. I'm far too sophisticated and cultured for that. I have
liquor on the lobsta' boat for when I wine and dine the Washington
elite.

Harry[_5_] June 23rd 10 07:46 PM

Anchor Question
 
In article ,
says...

On 6/23/10 2:21 PM, YukonBound wrote:


"Harry" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...

"Larry" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
One of my recent students who shall remain nameless, failed to
complete a homework assignment after apparently losing interest
in the
subject. Therefore I will throw it open to the group.

You are in a 40 something boat, power or sail makes no difference,
anchored in over 40 feet of water with 3/8ths chain and a 60 pound
anchor. The combination of chain and anchor weigh about 150 pounds
not counting the large mud ball that wants to come up also,
easily 200
pounds total. The chain and anchor are worth something over $1500
and not easily replaced in remote locations.

The problem: The anchor windlass has failed in some unfortunate
way,
and not easily repaired. How do you retrieve your expensive anchor
and chain?

You'll notice that Larry never once acknowledged his statement
"cut and
run" was fundamentally wrong. You'll also notice that I gave a
rather
complete solution to this question, and all the "men" have
refused to
comment on it, even the "expert" Wayne.


I did respond. I just don't monitor this group all day long like some
misfits.

So sorry for the lack of a response. Maybe this pathetic
"reminder" will
elicit one.

Maybe you'll finally admit that you lied when you claimed you never
said
cut and run. Still waiting... why not be a man and admit it?

You are a man, right? That's what you're claiming?


A pathetic, sorry excuse for one.

Little buddy, you may want to tone that down a little. What with your
son hanging around your house drinking your beer and such.


That you Kevin Noble?
I have no beer around for my son to drink... but since it's getting
warmer, a nice case of 24 would come in handy.
Are you allowed to have liquor in the house...after the broken arms
incident?



The ID spoofer certainly comes across here like Loogy...witless, dull,
coward, big mouth, bad writer. I suppose if I were Loogy, I'd want to be
someone else, too.


Spoofer alert! Everyone knows that I know everything there is to know,
just ask me. I know full well who the spoofers are.

nom=de=plume[_2_] June 23rd 10 08:56 PM

Anchor Question
 

"TopBassDog" wrote in message
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On Jun 23, 1:09 am, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"TopBassDog" wrote in message

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On Jun 22, 12:37 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"TopBassDog" wrote in message


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On Jun 21, 9:49 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message


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On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 18:46:59 -0600, Canuck57

wrote:


The problem: The anchor windlass has failed in some
unfortunate
way,
and not easily repaired. How do you retrieve your expensive
anchor
and chain?


Drag the bottom with hook the right size to snag the chain.


Then what ?


Blame Obama.


No need to blame him for your petty anchor problems, D'Plume. He's
doing enough to catch hell for.


You're the one with the petty problems.


With no irony, D'Plume. You are simply *petty*


Spoken by a guy who enjoys stalking women? Well, ok.


But, who would mistake you for a woman, D'Plume?


Who would mistake you for a man?



nom=de=plume[_2_] June 23rd 10 08:56 PM

Anchor Question
 

"Canuck57" wrote in message
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On 23/06/2010 6:00 AM, TopBassDog wrote:
On Jun 23, 1:09 am, wrote:
wrote in message

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On Jun 22, 12:37 pm, wrote:
wrote in message

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On Jun 21, 9:49 pm, wrote:
wrote in message

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On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 18:46:59 -0600,
wrote:

The problem: The anchor windlass has failed in some unfortunate
way,
and not easily repaired. How do you retrieve your expensive
anchor
and chain?

Drag the bottom with hook the right size to snag the chain.

Then what ?

Blame Obama.

No need to blame him for your petty anchor problems, D'Plume. He's
doing enough to catch hell for.

You're the one with the petty problems.

With no irony, D'Plume. You are simply *petty*

Spoken by a guy who enjoys stalking women? Well, ok.


But, who would mistake you for a woman, D'Plume?


Part of why we sometimes address de-plume as she-it.

--
The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.


Part of why you're a misogynistic idiot/racist.



nom=de=plume[_2_] June 23rd 10 08:57 PM

Anchor Question
 

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
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On Jun 23, 9:27 am, Harry wrote:
On 6/23/10 9:24 AM, Canuck57 wrote:



On 23/06/2010 6:00 AM, TopBassDog wrote:
On Jun 23, 1:09 am, wrote:
wrote in message


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On Jun 22, 12:37 pm, wrote:
wrote in message


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On Jun 21, 9:49 pm, wrote:
wrote in message


news:b540265v9064pa5fcirpnbd6n976nuc9nu@4ax .com...


On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 18:46:59 -0600,

wrote:


The problem: The anchor windlass has failed in some
unfortunate
way,
and not easily repaired. How do you retrieve your expensive
anchor
and chain?


Drag the bottom with hook the right size to snag the chain.


Then what ?


Blame Obama.


No need to blame him for your petty anchor problems, D'Plume. He's
doing enough to catch hell for.


You're the one with the petty problems.


With no irony, D'Plume. You are simply *petty*


Spoken by a guy who enjoys stalking women? Well, ok.


But, who would mistake you for a woman, D'Plume?


Part of why we sometimes address de-plume as she-it.


The "why" is that you and your right-wing buddies here are assholes, and
worse, scared to death of women with brains. One can only imagine what
your aged Stepford Wives are like, eh?


Did not have time to read all the other answers, however, a 40' boat
by itself is a pretty good fulcrum pivoting about it's center of
buoyancy. So, get the chain vertical, heave till it is taught with
all persons ON THE BOW. Everybody goes aft which pulls the anchor
free. Repeat to slowly haul the anchor.


Do you really think one or two people on the bow of that size boat is going
to have much of an effect on it? That's what 350 lbs?



Wayne.B June 24th 10 12:03 AM

Anchor Question
 
On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 11:30:01 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

Another possibility using a rope is a Spanish Windlass where you use a
long loop between a cleat and the chain, A bar goes thru the loop and
is used to twist the loop like winding up a rubber band. You do not
get much length of pull but you can get a lot of leverage if you have
a long bar. As anchor comes up, cleat it off and repeat.


That works, especially the "repeat" part. Anything that yields a
significant mechanical advantage will do the job as long as you have a
good supply of "repeat" on board. :-)

Jim June 24th 10 12:16 AM

Anchor Question
 
Frogwatch wrote:


Did not have time to read all the other answers, however, a 40' boat
by itself is a pretty good fulcrum pivoting about it's center of
buoyancy. So, get the chain vertical, heave till it is taught with
all persons ON THE BOW. Everybody goes aft which pulls the anchor
free. Repeat to slowly haul the anchor.


Got a picture of that? Don't make sense. Funny to visualize though if
you picture John Candy and Fatty Arbuckle as crew.
You want slow hauling? Let the tide pull the anchor up.
A buddy of mine had a 40' cat with +275' chain rode.
Was becalmed off an island in the South Pacific and decided to clean his
chain locker and untwist the chain. 500' water.
Unshackled the anchor first. Think it was a Bruce 44#.
Dropped the chain in the drink, cleaned the locker, then couldn't haul a
link of chain with the windlass and his full strength added.
Slowly powered the boat into 150' water before he could haul it in.
Lucky he had removed the anchor and didn't snag the chain.
So don't anchor with all chain rode in deep water unless you have the
hoisting gear for it.

Jim - There are six million stories in the South Pacific. This has been
one of them.

Wayne.B June 24th 10 12:21 AM

Anchor Question
 
On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 14:45:07 -0400, Harry
wrote:

I have
liquor on the lobsta' boat for when I wine and dine the Washington
elite.


Aww shucks, you must be a spoofer.

Just about everyone knows that the Washington elite would not be seen
dead on anything resembling a lobsta' boat. Anything less than a 120
ft mega yacht is small change in those circles. A lobsta' boat might
make a decent tender however if it was well appointed with corinthian
leather upholstery and a few other upscale touches. A Hinckley picnic
boat would be a better choice however.

http://hubpages.com/hub/Hinckley-Pic...-Lake-St-Clair

http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/cate...Boat+Classic/1

Looks like there are quite a few on the Chesapeake but very doubtful
that any belong to our hero. As I recall he couldn't afford the fuel
for a 24 ft cuddy.



Larry[_22_] June 24th 10 12:31 AM

Anchor Question
 
nom=de=plume wrote:

"Larry" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
One of my recent students who shall remain nameless, failed to
complete a homework assignment after apparently losing interest in the
subject. Therefore I will throw it open to the group.

You are in a 40 something boat, power or sail makes no difference,
anchored in over 40 feet of water with 3/8ths chain and a 60 pound
anchor. The combination of chain and anchor weigh about 150 pounds
not counting the large mud ball that wants to come up also, easily 200
pounds total. The chain and anchor are worth something over $1500
and not easily replaced in remote locations.

The problem: The anchor windlass has failed in some unfortunate way,
and not easily repaired. How do you retrieve your expensive anchor
and chain?

Well, you don't do what Larry said, "If the windlass fails, you cut
and run. I'll bet there are tens of
thousands of anchors on the bottom of the ocean that were stuck and the
Captain had no other choice."

Do I get 1/2 credit?


If it's stuck, it's stuck. This is a different scenario, expert.


Why don't you tell us about your cut and run life philosophy, liar.


I just covered that, bimbo.


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