On Jun 21, 1:40*pm, W1TEF wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 11:08:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

I know the cajuns eat 'em and there's a lot of places that serve
shark.

But are there any fishing (commercial) requirements for catching
shark, and are there only certain species that are acceptable.

I dont' know, that's why I'm asking....

No and it's another species that is over fished. *A lot of species are
definned and left to die - don't even make it to the table.

Well, that's lousy!

I mean if you're going to catch the thing you ought to eat it. Like
the all-you-can eat joints have a sign that says.

"Take all you want, but eat all you take"


makes sense to me.

On 6/21/10 3:41 PM, Tim wrote:
On Jun 21, 1:40 pm, wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 11:08:19 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

I know the cajuns eat 'em and there's a lot of places that serve
shark.

But are there any fishing (commercial) requirements for catching
shark, and are there only certain species that are acceptable.

I dont' know, that's why I'm asking....

No and it's another species that is over fished. A lot of species are
definned and left to die - don't even make it to the table.

Well, that's lousy!

I mean if you're going to catch the thing you ought to eat it. Like
the all-you-can eat joints have a sign that says.

"Take all you want, but eat all you take"


makes sense to me.

Not fishing for sharks makes better sense.

On Jun 21, 2:57*pm, W1TEF wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 12:41:50 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:





On Jun 21, 1:40 pm, W1TEF wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 11:08:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

I know the cajuns eat 'em and there's a lot of places that serve
shark.

But are there any fishing (commercial) requirements for catching
shark, and are there only certain species that are acceptable.

I dont' know, that's why I'm asking....

No and it's another species that is over fished. A lot of species are
definned and left to die - don't even make it to the table.

Well, that's lousy!

I mean if you're going to catch the thing you ought to eat it. Like
the all-you-can eat joints have a sign that says.

"Take all you want, but eat all you take"

makes sense to me.

Well, that presents a whole 'nother problem called by-catch. *A lot of
fish are caught accidentally and are discarded routinely - happens a
lot in the in-shore commercial industry where one might be dragging
for flounder and catch sea robins, skates and other undesirable
species. *Sometimes, the by-catch is sold as bait to lobster or crab
fishermen for example, but a lot of time, these fish aren't even
suitable for the reduction industry so they are just discarded.

And then there are the long liners.

AAARRRGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *:)- Hide quoted text -

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I can see the point, but with exception of the 'long liners' I'd think
that there would be a market for the 'undesireables' besides
discarding them as trash. But then again, even the trash fish...
wouldn't other scavengers and predators feed on them?

On Jun 21, 5:12*pm, W1TEF wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 13:09:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:





On Jun 21, 2:57 pm, W1TEF wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 12:41:50 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Jun 21, 1:40 pm, W1TEF wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 11:08:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

I know the cajuns eat 'em and there's a lot of places that serve
shark.

But are there any fishing (commercial) requirements for catching
shark, and are there only certain species that are acceptable.

I dont' know, that's why I'm asking....

No and it's another species that is over fished. A lot of species are
definned and left to die - don't even make it to the table.

Well, that's lousy!

I mean if you're going to catch the thing you ought to eat it. Like
the all-you-can eat joints have a sign that says.

"Take all you want, but eat all you take"

makes sense to me.

Well, that presents a whole 'nother problem called by-catch. A lot of
fish are caught accidentally and are discarded routinely - happens a
lot in the in-shore commercial industry where one might be dragging
for flounder and catch sea robins, skates and other undesirable
species. Sometimes, the by-catch is sold as bait to lobster or crab
fishermen for example, but a lot of time, these fish aren't even
suitable for the reduction industry so they are just discarded.

And then there are the long liners.

AAARRRGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I can see the point, but with exception of the 'long liners' I'd think
that there would be a market for the 'undesireables' besides
discarding them as trash. But then again, even the trash fish...
wouldn't other scavengers and predators feed on them?

Other than bait, there is no use for skate or sea robins or any of the
other smaller "trash" fish. *Not even for the reduction industry. *And
most lobstermen won't use skate unless forced to by lack of menhaden
because they just don't attract lobsta'.

I know - you're going to point to hagfish as an example of "use". True
- there is a big Asian market for hagfish and they aren't much use for
anything, but that's a limited example of a true trash fish being used
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Oh I wasn't going to point to a 'hagfish for an example" because I'd
never heard of a hagfish. But I did look up sea robins and they're an
intresting creature. Is that the same as a flying fish? or a species
thefeof? They look like it?

On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 15:57:51 -0400, W1TEF
wrote:

And then there are the long liners.

We watched local guys down in the islands do a type of long lining
from row boats. They will start out with a huge spool of very heavy
mono, probably 400 or 500 lb, row it out and set a baited drop every
100 feet or so along the heavy stuff. They come back and check the
drops every couple of days by pulling themselves along the mono by
hand, bringing it in on one side of the boat and paying it out on the
other. Intersting to watch.

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On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 11:08:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

I know the cajuns eat 'em and there's a lot of places that serve
shark.

But are there any fishing (commercial) requirements for catching
shark, and are there only certain species that are acceptable.

I dont' know, that's why I'm asking....

No and it's another species that is over fished. A lot of species are
definned and left to die - don't even make it to the table.

Shark fin soup - big Asian delicacy.

Inshore there are regs. Some sharks can not be fished for, well unless you
are Judy Packard, and one is the Great White. Some sharks are good tasting
and not overfished, and others are never going to be edible. We could catch
Blue Sharks to an excess here, but they always will taste like ammonia.
threshers, seem to be doing OK off SoCal, but the sport fisherman, seem to
catch a lot of the smaller ones. San Francisco bay has 7 gills which are
supposed to be good eats, as well as Smooth Hound (sand Shark), that no one
eats, and you could catch a hundred a day if you were fishing for them. And
Leopard sharks, which are great eating, but have a 36" minimum size limit,
so they get to breed a few times before legal size. Most of the sharks that
are overfished are the open open ones, and that is the sharkfin trade, etc.

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"W1TEF" wrote in message
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On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 11:08:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

I know the cajuns eat 'em and there's a lot of places that serve
shark.

But are there any fishing (commercial) requirements for catching
shark, and are there only certain species that are acceptable.

I dont' know, that's why I'm asking....

No and it's another species that is over fished. A lot of species are
definned and left to die - don't even make it to the table.

Shark fin soup - big Asian delicacy.

Inshore there are regs. Some sharks can not be fished for, well unless you
are Judy Packard, and one is the Great White. Some sharks are good tasting
and not overfished, and others are never going to be edible. We could catch
Blue Sharks to an excess here, but they always will taste like ammonia.
threshers, seem to be doing OK off SoCal, but the sport fisherman, seem to
catch a lot of the smaller ones. San Francisco bay has 7 gills which are
supposed to be good eats, as well as Smooth Hound (sand Shark), that no one
eats, and you could catch a hundred a day if you were fishing for them. And
Leopard sharks, which are great eating, but have a 36" minimum size limit,
so they get to breed a few times before legal size. Most of the sharks that
are overfished are the open open ones, and that is the sharkfin trade, etc.

I know everything about anything in the San Francisco area. I've visited
there. Therefore, I know more about it than you do.