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"Harry" wrote in message m... On 6/20/10 8:24 AM, Moose wrote: wrote in message m... On 6/20/10 6:22 AM, Moose wrote: wrote in message ... wrote in message ... On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 15:30:49 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message ... On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 10:05:27 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message ... On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 18:02:34 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: I was only addressing the Al Gore solution to the problem he defined. Personally I only have one observation. I an not sure if it is more arrogant to think man caused global warming or that man can stop global warming. We better just make plans to live in a warmer world. That is where we should be spending our money. Al Gore's solution may be one piece of the solution. Human beings are absolutely the cause of adverse climate change. I don't know if we have the ability to fix it, but we have to try. You're talking about dooming millions to extreme hardship if not death. There are no legitimate solutions that will fix that problem without fixing the underlying cause. "Human induced climate change" is the part that you do get disagreement about among scientists. The predominance do agree it is getting warmer but that support starts dropping off when you start assessing blame on why. The CO2 trend is 8000 years old, more closely tied to agriculture than anything else.. In that regard, it is more closely related to population than industrialization. I suppose if we reduced the population to the 1900 levels, we *might* reduce CO2 to 1900 levels. The "predominance" agree it's human caused. You can quote all the numbers you want, but that's a fact. You are going to have to cite that ... and not from, Al Gore. My "8000 years ago" number is from an article in Scientific American about tracking CO2. In that regard, man may be causing the CO2 buildup but it still tracks population growth and the rise of agriculture as much as any other metric. It is an 8000 year trend. Buying carbon credits from Al Gore is not going to do anything about that. It will just create another phony bubble market like the CDOs that will probably pop I do have a little skepticism about "published reports" because professors publish to get grants and there are no grants to prove man didn't cause global warming. Read all about it.. http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/americ...vey/index.html If you don't believe "published reports," what possible reports would you believe? Unpublished ones? How is someone supposed to do anything if they don't let others know?? It's very difficult to prove a negative. You create a hypothesis, then you test that hypothesis. If it holds up, you publish and others test it. That's how things get done in the scientific world. They didn't ask the second half of the question. "Is this human activity the mere fact that we are here?" I said this tracks POPULATION as closely as anything else. I suppose if we scrubbed five billion off the world population we could actually reduce CO2 levels to what it was in 1800 when there were only a billion of us but it might take 40-50 years to see it happen after we were gone. (forests and grassland taking the farms and cities back) Human population is directly correlated with activity. We could scrub 5 billion, and certainly population is a serious issue, but that's not much of a solution. We need to find a way to live that doesn't damage our environment that will ultimately result in scrubbing millions due to disaster. Plume says the darndest things. "Human population is directly correlated with activity." Yes dearie, humans call it sex." Well, then, you apparently never had that activity, since you don't have kids. Apparently your logical thought processes stopped developing when you were a three year old. I don't recall your ever mentioning you were a father, or that you had children. I suppose to nervous nellies like you, revelation of such information would be considered...dangerous. Sort of like saying what you did for a living, or what boat you have, et cetera. You writing a book or something? |
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