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On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 09:57:24 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 23:37:00 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

let's see....obama gives us health care

bush gave us 4400 dead in a trillion dollar war

Last time I looked we were still in both wars ... 16 months later. How
long will Obama be blaming Bush for his problems?
He ran on "Change" but nothing changed.
How many soldiers have come home?
For that matter, in 16 months, how many people at MMS were fired?
Were ANY of the Cheney removed rules for drilling reinstated?

We really don't even have that health care yet. I sure have not seen
anything change.

Yes, Bush gave us two wars. One he went at with all the zealotry he could
muster... the other he pretty much ignored. Finally, even the Iraqis said
enough is enough and told us to leave. Obama is complying. The Afg.
situation was so screwed up by lack of Bush's attention, where was bin
laden?, smoke him out, dead or alive?, that it's going to take a while to
fix it.

Yes, MMS was a clusterfox. You do know who created that agency don't you?
You do know under what president? Of course you do.

Sorry you don't know about the new laws. Read up.

'What are you talking about with "new laws"?

The new health care laws, some of which have gone into effect. Sorry...
mixed post subjects.

The director of MMS serves at the pleasure of the president and Obama
could have fired her on January 20.

Yes. Clearly she should have been gone long before the spill. Obama didn't
do it and should have. Bush should have done it, but didn't.

If he had been opposed to drilling in the Gulf and was not approving
new leases I could see why it might not have worth checking out that
obscure agency but he was telling us he wanted more drilling WITH that
agency in charge.

Yes, and with the assurances of the industry. Basically, he was misinformed
(to be kind), but that's no excuse. His fault. He should have checked more
closely.


George Bush was a moron getting us in those wars., I have said that
every time it comes up so that is a non-starter for you and Bob.
I just want Obama to honor his campaign pledge and get us out.
Afghanistan is more dangerous and less productive than Iraq.

I think he is getting us out the best way possible. Not sure what you mean
by less productive though.

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On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 13:31:56 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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George Bush was a moron getting us in those wars., I have said that
every time it comes up so that is a non-starter for you and Bob.
I just want Obama to honor his campaign pledge and get us out.
Afghanistan is more dangerous and less productive than Iraq.

I think he is getting us out the best way possible. Not sure what you mean
by less productive though.

It is possible that the Iraqis could actually go back to being a
consumer society that might buy some of our products.
Afghanistan was a ******** 1000 years ago and it will be a ********
1000 years from now. The only real trade we have with them is we send
them weapons and money. They send us heroin and hash.

Well, now Afg. has potentially a $1T+ worth of natural resources....

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On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 21:18:00 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 13:31:56 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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George Bush was a moron getting us in those wars., I have said that
every time it comes up so that is a non-starter for you and Bob.
I just want Obama to honor his campaign pledge and get us out.
Afghanistan is more dangerous and less productive than Iraq.

I think he is getting us out the best way possible. Not sure what you mean
by less productive though.

It is possible that the Iraqis could actually go back to being a
consumer society that might buy some of our products.
Afghanistan was a ******** 1000 years ago and it will be a ********
1000 years from now. The only real trade we have with them is we send
them weapons and money. They send us heroin and hash.

Well, now Afg. has potentially a $1T+ worth of natural resources....

Do you propose we try to steal them? ;-)
We would do a lot better sending mining engineers in there than combat
engineers.

I'm sure Halliburton has a management team working right now on the
theft of Afghanistan's resources.

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On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 21:18:00 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 13:31:56 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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George Bush was a moron getting us in those wars., I have said that
every time it comes up so that is a non-starter for you and Bob.
I just want Obama to honor his campaign pledge and get us out.
Afghanistan is more dangerous and less productive than Iraq.

I think he is getting us out the best way possible. Not sure what you
mean
by less productive though.

It is possible that the Iraqis could actually go back to being a
consumer society that might buy some of our products.
Afghanistan was a ******** 1000 years ago and it will be a ********
1000 years from now. The only real trade we have with them is we send
them weapons and money. They send us heroin and hash.

Well, now Afg. has potentially a $1T+ worth of natural resources....

Do you propose we try to steal them? ;-)
We would do a lot better sending mining engineers in there than combat
engineers.

Actually, I think it's a bunch of bs that they have those resources. I think
it's just a lame attempt to get us thinking we should stay.

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On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 10:38:30 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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It is possible that the Iraqis could actually go back to being a
consumer society that might buy some of our products.
Afghanistan was a ******** 1000 years ago and it will be a ********
1000 years from now. The only real trade we have with them is we send
them weapons and money. They send us heroin and hash.

Well, now Afg. has potentially a $1T+ worth of natural resources....

Do you propose we try to steal them? ;-)
We would do a lot better sending mining engineers in there than combat
engineers.

Actually, I think it's a bunch of bs that they have those resources. I
think
it's just a lame attempt to get us thinking we should stay.


I imagine they may have some lithium but that is a long way from
actually being able to get it into production.
It could, perhaps, give them a revenue stream that doesn't involve
poppies but I doubt that will drag them up to the 18th century, much
less the 21st century

Perhaps we should just blanket the whole area with lithium. It might calm
down some of them!

On 6/18/10 5:17 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:

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On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 10:38:30 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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It is possible that the Iraqis could actually go back to being a
consumer society that might buy some of our products.
Afghanistan was a ******** 1000 years ago and it will be a ********
1000 years from now. The only real trade we have with them is we send
them weapons and money. They send us heroin and hash.

Well, now Afg. has potentially a $1T+ worth of natural resources....

Do you propose we try to steal them? ;-)
We would do a lot better sending mining engineers in there than combat
engineers.

Actually, I think it's a bunch of bs that they have those resources.
I think
it's just a lame attempt to get us thinking we should stay.


I imagine they may have some lithium but that is a long way from
actually being able to get it into production.
It could, perhaps, give them a revenue stream that doesn't involve
poppies but I doubt that will drag them up to the 18th century, much
less the 21st century

Perhaps we should just blanket the whole area with lithium. It might
calm down some of them!




I was going to post that, but I thought it too esoteric for the
right-wing-mooks in here. :)

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On 6/18/10 5:17 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:

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On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 10:38:30 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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It is possible that the Iraqis could actually go back to being a
consumer society that might buy some of our products.
Afghanistan was a ******** 1000 years ago and it will be a ********
1000 years from now. The only real trade we have with them is we
send
them weapons and money. They send us heroin and hash.

Well, now Afg. has potentially a $1T+ worth of natural resources....

Do you propose we try to steal them? ;-)
We would do a lot better sending mining engineers in there than combat
engineers.

Actually, I think it's a bunch of bs that they have those resources.
I think
it's just a lame attempt to get us thinking we should stay.


I imagine they may have some lithium but that is a long way from
actually being able to get it into production.
It could, perhaps, give them a revenue stream that doesn't involve
poppies but I doubt that will drag them up to the 18th century, much
less the 21st century

Perhaps we should just blanket the whole area with lithium. It might
calm down some of them!




I was going to post that, but I thought it too esoteric for the
right-wing-mooks in here. :)

I think I have some valium around here somewhere... lol