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Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all ten comes
to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this: The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing. The fifth would pay $1. The sixth would pay $3. The seventh would pay $7. The eighth would pay $12. The ninth would pay $18. The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59. So, that's what they decided to do. The ten men drank in the bar every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve. 'Since you are all such good customers,' he said, 'I'm going to reduce the cost of your daily beer by $20.'Drinks for the ten now cost just $80. The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes so the first four men were unaffected. They would still drink for free. But what about the other six men - the paying customers? How could they divide the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his 'fair share?' They realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they subtracted that from everybody's share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would each end up being paid to drink his beer. So, the bar owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man's bill by roughly the same amount and he proceeded to work out the amounts each should pay. And so: The fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% savings). The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33%savings). The seventh now pay $5 instead of $7 (28%savings). The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% savings). The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% savings). The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% savings). Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued to drink for free. But once outside the restaurant, the men began to compare their savings. 'I only got a dollar out of the $20,'declared the sixth man. He pointed to the tenth man,' but he got $10!' 'Yeah, that's right,' exclaimed the fifth man. 'I only saved a dollar, too. It's unfair that he got ten times as much as I!' 'That's true!!' shouted the seventh man. 'Why should he get $10 back when I got only two? The wealthy get all the breaks!' 'Wait a minute,' yelled the first four men in unison. 'We didn't get anything at all. The system exploits the poor!' The nine men surrounded the tenth man and beat him up. The next night the tenth man didn't show up for drinks, so the nine sat down and had beers without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They didn't have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill! And that, boys and girls, journalists and college professors, is how our tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they might start drinking overseas where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier. David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D. Professor of Economics University of Georgia For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible. -- John H For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v |
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On Sat, 08 May 2010 21:11:11 -0400, John H
wrote: The nine men surrounded the tenth man and beat him up. The next night the tenth man didn't show up for drinks, so the nine sat down and had beers without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They didn't have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill! And that, boys and girls, journalists and college professors, is how our tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they might start drinking overseas where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier. David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D. Professor of Economics University of Georgia For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible. oh brother...cry me a river for the rich. what you guys forget is that of the $100, the rich guy gets 80 this year, 85 the year after, 90 the year after that.... the other guys get zip but still have to buy the drinks and spare me the risk of bitching about the rich. they just screwed our economy like they were priests and the middle class was an altar boy. |
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On Sat, 08 May 2010 21:11:11 -0400, John H
wrote: In fact, they might start drinking overseas where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier. In fact, overseas, not paying taxes has become a finely honed tradition, especially for the very wealthy. Look where Greece has ended up. |
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"John H" wrote in message
... Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all ten comes to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this: The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing. The fifth would pay $1. The sixth would pay $3. The seventh would pay $7. The eighth would pay $12. The ninth would pay $18. The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59. So, that's what they decided to do. The ten men drank in the bar every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve. 'Since you are all such good customers,' he said, 'I'm going to reduce the cost of your daily beer by $20.'Drinks for the ten now cost just $80. The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes so the first four men were unaffected. They would still drink for free. But what about the other six men - the paying customers? How could they divide the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his 'fair share?' They realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they subtracted that from everybody's share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would each end up being paid to drink his beer. So, the bar owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man's bill by roughly the same amount and he proceeded to work out the amounts each should pay. And so: The fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% savings). The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33%savings). The seventh now pay $5 instead of $7 (28%savings). The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% savings). The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% savings). The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% savings). Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued to drink for free. But once outside the restaurant, the men began to compare their savings. 'I only got a dollar out of the $20,'declared the sixth man. He pointed to the tenth man,' but he got $10!' 'Yeah, that's right,' exclaimed the fifth man. 'I only saved a dollar, too. It's unfair that he got ten times as much as I!' 'That's true!!' shouted the seventh man. 'Why should he get $10 back when I got only two? The wealthy get all the breaks!' 'Wait a minute,' yelled the first four men in unison. 'We didn't get anything at all. The system exploits the poor!' The nine men surrounded the tenth man and beat him up. The next night the tenth man didn't show up for drinks, so the nine sat down and had beers without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They didn't have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill! And that, boys and girls, journalists and college professors, is how our tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they might start drinking overseas where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier. David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D. Professor of Economics University of Georgia For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible. -- John H For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v You would be among the four that don't pay. I'm certain of it. So, why do you care? |
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On 08/05/2010 7:11 PM, John H wrote:
Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all ten comes to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this: The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing. The fifth would pay $1. The sixth would pay $3. The seventh would pay $7. The eighth would pay $12. The ninth would pay $18. The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59. So, that's what they decided to do. The ten men drank in the bar every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve. 'Since you are all such good customers,' he said, 'I'm going to reduce the cost of your daily beer by $20.'Drinks for the ten now cost just $80. The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes so the first four men were unaffected. They would still drink for free. But what about the other six men - the paying customers? How could they divide the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his 'fair share?' They realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they subtracted that from everybody's share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would each end up being paid to drink his beer. So, the bar owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man's bill by roughly the same amount and he proceeded to work out the amounts each should pay. And so: The fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% savings). The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33%savings). The seventh now pay $5 instead of $7 (28%savings). The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% savings). The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% savings). The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% savings). Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued to drink for free. But once outside the restaurant, the men began to compare their savings. 'I only got a dollar out of the $20,'declared the sixth man. He pointed to the tenth man,' but he got $10!' 'Yeah, that's right,' exclaimed the fifth man. 'I only saved a dollar, too. It's unfair that he got ten times as much as I!' 'That's true!!' shouted the seventh man. 'Why should he get $10 back when I got only two? The wealthy get all the breaks!' 'Wait a minute,' yelled the first four men in unison. 'We didn't get anything at all. The system exploits the poor!' The nine men surrounded the tenth man and beat him up. The next night the tenth man didn't show up for drinks, so the nine sat down and had beers without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They didn't have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill! And that, boys and girls, journalists and college professors, is how our tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they might start drinking overseas where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier. David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D. Professor of Economics University of Georgia For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible. -- John H For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v And true. That is why business are not starting up hiring, and why many are a leaving. Finally got too much to be worthwhile. Too much rish and no gain, or as in many cases, too much losses to continue. But this story will be far over the heads of our liberal weasels. They do not have the cranial capacity to understand it. Good post. -- There is a sucker born every minute, liberals and our politicians are counting on it. |
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On 08/05/2010 7:14 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 08 May 2010 21:11:11 -0400, John wrote: The nine men surrounded the tenth man and beat him up. The next night the tenth man didn't show up for drinks, so the nine sat down and had beers without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They didn't have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill! And that, boys and girls, journalists and college professors, is how our tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they might start drinking overseas where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier. David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D. Professor of Economics University of Georgia For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible. oh brother...cry me a river for the rich. what you guys forget is that of the $100, the rich guy gets 80 this year, 85 the year after, 90 the year after that.... the other guys get zip but still have to buy the drinks and spare me the risk of bitching about the rich. they just screwed our economy like they were priests and the middle class was an altar boy. We know you and de-fumer would be the cheap skates. So quit your bitching. -- There is a sucker born every minute, liberals and our politicians are counting on it. |
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On 08/05/2010 7:27 PM, A.Boater wrote:
If the 2 richest guys were in the 91% bracket, like they were when you were born, there probably wouldn't be a problem. Your economist isn't any better at drama that he is at economics. I can say this is true from personal experience. Going out for beers (and meals) and listening to excuses, envy, embitterment, self pitty from screwups then getting stuck with the bill happened to me once too many. So I changed my friends, making sure they were not into self pity, loser mentality, sub-life slugs and now enjoy it much more. Can't soar with the eagles when sitting at the bottom getting blood sucked. -- There is a sucker born every minute, liberals and our politicians are counting on it. |
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On 08/05/2010 7:33 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
"John wrote in message ... Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all ten comes to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this: The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing. The fifth would pay $1. The sixth would pay $3. The seventh would pay $7. The eighth would pay $12. The ninth would pay $18. The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59. So, that's what they decided to do. The ten men drank in the bar every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve. 'Since you are all such good customers,' he said, 'I'm going to reduce the cost of your daily beer by $20.'Drinks for the ten now cost just $80. The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes so the first four men were unaffected. They would still drink for free. But what about the other six men - the paying customers? How could they divide the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his 'fair share?' They realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they subtracted that from everybody's share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would each end up being paid to drink his beer. So, the bar owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man's bill by roughly the same amount and he proceeded to work out the amounts each should pay. And so: The fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% savings). The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33%savings). The seventh now pay $5 instead of $7 (28%savings). The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% savings). The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% savings). The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% savings). Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued to drink for free. But once outside the restaurant, the men began to compare their savings. 'I only got a dollar out of the $20,'declared the sixth man. He pointed to the tenth man,' but he got $10!' 'Yeah, that's right,' exclaimed the fifth man. 'I only saved a dollar, too. It's unfair that he got ten times as much as I!' 'That's true!!' shouted the seventh man. 'Why should he get $10 back when I got only two? The wealthy get all the breaks!' 'Wait a minute,' yelled the first four men in unison. 'We didn't get anything at all. The system exploits the poor!' The nine men surrounded the tenth man and beat him up. The next night the tenth man didn't show up for drinks, so the nine sat down and had beers without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They didn't have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill! And that, boys and girls, journalists and college professors, is how our tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they might start drinking overseas where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier. David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D. Professor of Economics University of Georgia For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible. -- John H For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v You would be among the four that don't pay. I'm certain of it. So, why do you care? First person I though of at being at the botton welshers was you and pbuharic arguing about who was the most destitute of the two. -- There is a sucker born every minute, liberals and our politicians are counting on it. |
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On Sat, 08 May 2010 21:42:24 -0600, Canuck57
wrote: On 08/05/2010 7:14 PM, bpuharic wrote: On Sat, 08 May 2010 21:11:11 -0400, John wrote: oh brother...cry me a river for the rich. what you guys forget is that of the $100, the rich guy gets 80 this year, 85 the year after, 90 the year after that.... the other guys get zip but still have to buy the drinks and spare me the risk of bitching about the rich. they just screwed our economy like they were priests and the middle class was an altar boy. We know you and de-fumer would be the cheap skates. So quit your bitching. that's true. that's why liberals balance the budget and right wingers are socialists who spend the money of hard working people on the rich |
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On Sat, 08 May 2010 21:46:48 -0600, Canuck57
wrote: On 08/05/2010 7:27 PM, A.Boater wrote: If the 2 richest guys were in the 91% bracket, like they were when you were born, there probably wouldn't be a problem. Your economist isn't any better at drama that he is at economics. I can say this is true from personal experience. Going out for beers (and meals) and listening to excuses, envy, embitterment, self pitty from screwups to the right wing, 100,000,000 hard working americans are 'screw ups'. |
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On Sat, 08 May 2010 21:36:42 -0600, Canuck57
wrote: And true. That is why business are not starting up hiring, guess he's too busy lying to notice business created 200,000 jobs last month...the most in years.. But this story will be far over the heads of our liberal weasels. They do not have the cranial capacity to understand it. biggest spenders in history: conservatives |
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On 5/8/10 11:46 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 08/05/2010 7:27 PM, A.Boater wrote: If the 2 richest guys were in the 91% bracket, like they were when you were born, there probably wouldn't be a problem. Your economist isn't any better at drama that he is at economics. I can say this is true from personal experience. Going out for beers (and meals) and listening to excuses, envy, embitterment, self pitty from screwups then getting stuck with the bill happened to me once too many. So I changed my friends, making sure they were not into self pity, loser mentality, sub-life slugs and now enjoy it much more. Can't soar with the eagles when sitting at the bottom getting blood sucked. The only way a loser like you could soar with the eagles would be if you were roadkill, they fed upon you, and flew home some of your pieces to regurgitate into the mouths of their nestlings. -- The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name. |
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"hk" wrote in message m... On 5/8/10 11:46 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 08/05/2010 7:27 PM, A.Boater wrote: If the 2 richest guys were in the 91% bracket, like they were when you were born, there probably wouldn't be a problem. Your economist isn't any better at drama that he is at economics. I can say this is true from personal experience. Going out for beers (and meals) and listening to excuses, envy, embitterment, self pitty from screwups then getting stuck with the bill happened to me once too many. So I changed my friends, making sure they were not into self pity, loser mentality, sub-life slugs and now enjoy it much more. Can't soar with the eagles when sitting at the bottom getting blood sucked. The only way a loser like you could soar with the eagles would be if you were roadkill, they fed upon you, and flew home some of your pieces to regurgitate into the mouths of their nestlings. That would be a bitter meal indeed! |
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On May 8, 9:14*pm, bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 08 May 2010 21:11:11 -0400, John H wrote: The nine men surrounded the tenth man and beat him up. The next night the tenth man didn't show up for drinks, so the nine sat down and had beers without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They didn't have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill! And that, boys and girls, journalists and college professors, is how our tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they might start drinking overseas where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier. David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D. Professor of Economics University of Georgia For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible. oh brother...cry me a river for the rich. what you guys forget is that of the $100, the rich guy gets 80 this year, 85 the year after, 90 the year after that.... the other guys get zip but still have to buy the drinks and spare me the risk of bitching about the rich. they just screwed our economy like they were priests and the middle class was an altar boy. You've got to remember that Herring is on a government Pension. He sucks off the teat of EVERYONES wages. |
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On 09/05/2010 4:34 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 08 May 2010 21:42:24 -0600, wrote: On 08/05/2010 7:14 PM, bpuharic wrote: On Sat, 08 May 2010 21:11:11 -0400, John wrote: oh brother...cry me a river for the rich. what you guys forget is that of the $100, the rich guy gets 80 this year, 85 the year after, 90 the year after that.... the other guys get zip but still have to buy the drinks and spare me the risk of bitching about the rich. they just screwed our economy like they were priests and the middle class was an altar boy. We know you and de-fumer would be the cheap skates. So quit your bitching. that's true. that's why liberals balance the budget and right wingers are socialists who spend the money of hard working people on the rich Funny, Obama is a liberal and now holds the record of being the worlds largest debt increases in mankinds history. A dubious honour for sure. -- There is a sucker born every minute, liberals and our politicians are counting on it. |
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On 09/05/2010 7:25 AM, *e#c wrote:
On May 8, 9:14 pm, wrote: On Sat, 08 May 2010 21:11:11 -0400, John wrote: The nine men surrounded the tenth man and beat him up. The next night the tenth man didn't show up for drinks, so the nine sat down and had beers without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They didn't have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill! And that, boys and girls, journalists and college professors, is how our tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they might start drinking overseas where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier. David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D. Professor of Economics University of Georgia For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible. oh brother...cry me a river for the rich. what you guys forget is that of the $100, the rich guy gets 80 this year, 85 the year after, 90 the year after that.... the other guys get zip but still have to buy the drinks and spare me the risk of bitching about the rich. they just screwed our economy like they were priests and the middle class was an altar boy. You've got to remember that Herring is on a government Pension. He sucks off the teat of EVERYONES wages. Yep, he is a good good little statist-marxist. -- There is a sucker born every minute, liberals and our politicians are counting on it. |
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On 09/05/2010 4:34 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 08 May 2010 21:46:48 -0600, wrote: On 08/05/2010 7:27 PM, A.Boater wrote: If the 2 richest guys were in the 91% bracket, like they were when you were born, there probably wouldn't be a problem. Your economist isn't any better at drama that he is at economics. I can say this is true from personal experience. Going out for beers (and meals) and listening to excuses, envy, embitterment, self pitty from screwups to the right wing, 100,000,000 hard working americans are 'screw ups'. Majority of them yes, worshiping debt and Obama is not good. Obama is just the idiot they chose to appease the sheep, keeps them in line. Hard to believe, but in some ways we see eye to eye, just that you think Obama is some kind of saviour when he is just another piece in the game to manage the herd. Obama was picked as he could sell a good line of bull****. -- There is a sucker born every minute, liberals and our politicians are counting on it. |
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On Sun, 09 May 2010 08:08:18 -0600, Canuck57
wrote: On 09/05/2010 4:34 AM, bpuharic wrote: On Sat, 08 May 2010 21:42:24 -0600, wrote: . that's true. that's why liberals balance the budget and right wingers are socialists who spend the money of hard working people on the rich Funny, Obama is a liberal and now holds the record of being the worlds largest debt increases in mankinds history. last guy to balance the budget: clinton biggest spenders: bush and reagan and the rich boys on wall street wiped out more in 1 day than obama's spent in a year. and obama? more people in the work force. GDP increasing. economy's growing he's applying standard keynesian economics rather than giving tax cuts to the rich it's working A dubious honour for sure. yeah i know. you weep because unemployment's not at 25% |
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On 09/05/2010 6:55 AM, YukonBound wrote:
"hk" wrote in message m... On 5/8/10 11:46 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 08/05/2010 7:27 PM, A.Boater wrote: If the 2 richest guys were in the 91% bracket, like they were when you were born, there probably wouldn't be a problem. Your economist isn't any better at drama that he is at economics. I can say this is true from personal experience. Going out for beers (and meals) and listening to excuses, envy, embitterment, self pitty from screwups then getting stuck with the bill happened to me once too many. So I changed my friends, making sure they were not into self pity, loser mentality, sub-life slugs and now enjoy it much more. Can't soar with the eagles when sitting at the bottom getting blood sucked. The only way a loser like you could soar with the eagles would be if you were roadkill, they fed upon you, and flew home some of your pieces to regurgitate into the mouths of their nestlings. That would be a bitter meal indeed! Yep, especiailly since I am in part a carnivor. Had rib-eye last night. But I suspect we eagles and lions would leave the hk, pbuharic and de-fumers for the vultures. -- There is a sucker born every minute, liberals and our politicians are counting on it. |
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On 09/05/2010 4:36 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 08 May 2010 21:36:42 -0600, wrote: And true. That is why business are not starting up hiring, guess he's too busy lying to notice business created 200,000 jobs last month...the most in years.. But this story will be far over the heads of our liberal weasels. They do not have the cranial capacity to understand it. biggest spenders in history: conservatives Your problem is you have to get the facts right first. Obviously you can't. -- There is a sucker born every minute, liberals and our politicians are counting on it. |
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On 5/9/10 10:19 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 09/05/2010 6:55 AM, YukonBound wrote: "hk" wrote in message m... On 5/8/10 11:46 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 08/05/2010 7:27 PM, A.Boater wrote: If the 2 richest guys were in the 91% bracket, like they were when you were born, there probably wouldn't be a problem. Your economist isn't any better at drama that he is at economics. I can say this is true from personal experience. Going out for beers (and meals) and listening to excuses, envy, embitterment, self pitty from screwups then getting stuck with the bill happened to me once too many. So I changed my friends, making sure they were not into self pity, loser mentality, sub-life slugs and now enjoy it much more. Can't soar with the eagles when sitting at the bottom getting blood sucked. The only way a loser like you could soar with the eagles would be if you were roadkill, they fed upon you, and flew home some of your pieces to regurgitate into the mouths of their nestlings. That would be a bitter meal indeed! Yep, especiailly since I am in part a carnivor. Had rib-eye last night. But I suspect we eagles and lions would leave the hk, pbuharic and de-fumers for the vultures. Eagles and lions? You're a little putz who lives north of the board. -- The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name. |
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On Sun, 09 May 2010 08:16:59 -0600, Canuck57
wrote: On 09/05/2010 4:34 AM, bpuharic wrote: On Sat, 08 May 2010 21:46:48 -0600, wrote: On 08/05/2010 7:27 PM, A.Boater wrote: If the 2 richest guys were in the 91% bracket, like they were when you were born, there probably wouldn't be a problem. Your economist isn't any better at drama that he is at economics. I can say this is true from personal experience. Going out for beers (and meals) and listening to excuses, envy, embitterment, self pitty from screwups to the right wing, 100,000,000 hard working americans are 'screw ups'. Majority of them yes, worshiping debt and Obama is not good. ROFLMAO!! and how did bush treat them? like a baby treats a diaper! give 8,000,000 of them pink slips. boosted spending more than any other president in history. spent a TRILLION on a useless war how'd that work out? Obama is just the idiot they chose to appease the sheep, keeps them in line. uh huh. and what did bush do for them? nothing. you right wingers think the US economy is failing if unemployment's not at 25%. bush tortured US citizens. you guys say that's OK. he locked up americans without trial. right wingers think that'st great obama is black. that's the ONLY reason you hate him Hard to believe, but in some ways we see eye to eye, just that you think Obama is some kind of saviour when he is just another piece in the game to manage the herd. i don't think he's a savior. i think he's the least objectionable choice. Obama was picked as he could sell a good line of bull****. and how would palin have worked out? once mccain had a fatal stroke, you feel palin would have done a fine job defending the rights of working folks? she's never done it in her history. but she's defended the rich. to you that's all that matters |
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On Sun, 09 May 2010 08:20:11 -0600, Canuck57
wrote: On 09/05/2010 4:36 AM, bpuharic wrote: On Sat, 08 May 2010 21:36:42 -0600, wrote: And true. That is why business are not starting up hiring, guess he's too busy lying to notice business created 200,000 jobs last month...the most in years.. But this story will be far over the heads of our liberal weasels. They do not have the cranial capacity to understand it. biggest spenders in history: conservatives Your problem is you have to get the facts right first. Obviously you can't. your problem is the only fact you care about is the fact unemployment's not at 25%. you have blinders on |
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On 09/05/2010 8:25 AM, hk wrote:
On 5/9/10 10:19 AM, Canuck57 wrote: On 09/05/2010 6:55 AM, YukonBound wrote: "hk" wrote in message m... On 5/8/10 11:46 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 08/05/2010 7:27 PM, A.Boater wrote: If the 2 richest guys were in the 91% bracket, like they were when you were born, there probably wouldn't be a problem. Your economist isn't any better at drama that he is at economics. I can say this is true from personal experience. Going out for beers (and meals) and listening to excuses, envy, embitterment, self pitty from screwups then getting stuck with the bill happened to me once too many. So I changed my friends, making sure they were not into self pity, loser mentality, sub-life slugs and now enjoy it much more. Can't soar with the eagles when sitting at the bottom getting blood sucked. The only way a loser like you could soar with the eagles would be if you were roadkill, they fed upon you, and flew home some of your pieces to regurgitate into the mouths of their nestlings. That would be a bitter meal indeed! Yep, especiailly since I am in part a carnivor. Had rib-eye last night. But I suspect we eagles and lions would leave the hk, pbuharic and de-fumers for the vultures. Eagles and lions? You're a little putz who lives north of the board. Border not board. Sure beats being a sheep. -- There is a sucker born every minute, liberals and our politicians are counting on it. |
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On 09/05/2010 8:29 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 09 May 2010 08:20:11 -0600, wrote: On 09/05/2010 4:36 AM, bpuharic wrote: On Sat, 08 May 2010 21:36:42 -0600, wrote: And true. That is why business are not starting up hiring, guess he's too busy lying to notice business created 200,000 jobs last month...the most in years.. But this story will be far over the heads of our liberal weasels. They do not have the cranial capacity to understand it. biggest spenders in history: conservatives Your problem is you have to get the facts right first. Obviously you can't. your problem is the only fact you care about is the fact unemployment's not at 25%. you have blinders on Actually, i would like unemployment to be 3%. Everybody wins. But it will not happen for at least a decade maybe 2 or 3. he reality is the US government is bankrupt and floundering like a fish on a hot deck. The statists think they can maintain the ponzi debt management to prosperity, but as we can see, the age old adage, "You can't debt-spend your way out of debt!" is reality. Obamanomics is a bust, an utter failure. Sad joke on Americans. DC corruption gone mad. Obama has almost already spent about what Reagan and Bush spent in 16 years but did it in 2! Unadjusted, unemployment will hit 25++% and it might be as early as this fall. The more the government debt-spends and taxes, the worse it will get. -- There is a sucker born every minute, liberals and our politicians are counting on it. |
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On 5/9/2010 10:25 AM, hk wrote:
On 5/9/10 10:19 AM, Canuck57 wrote: On 09/05/2010 6:55 AM, YukonBound wrote: "hk" wrote in message m... On 5/8/10 11:46 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 08/05/2010 7:27 PM, A.Boater wrote: If the 2 richest guys were in the 91% bracket, like they were when you were born, there probably wouldn't be a problem. Your economist isn't any better at drama that he is at economics. I can say this is true from personal experience. Going out for beers (and meals) and listening to excuses, envy, embitterment, self pitty from screwups then getting stuck with the bill happened to me once too many. So I changed my friends, making sure they were not into self pity, loser mentality, sub-life slugs and now enjoy it much more. Can't soar with the eagles when sitting at the bottom getting blood sucked. The only way a loser like you could soar with the eagles would be if you were roadkill, they fed upon you, and flew home some of your pieces to regurgitate into the mouths of their nestlings. That would be a bitter meal indeed! Yep, especiailly since I am in part a carnivor. Had rib-eye last night. But I suspect we eagles and lions would leave the hk, pbuharic and de-fumers for the vultures. Eagles and lions? You're a little putz who lives north of the board. Whose board? What board? |
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On 09/05/2010 8:29 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 09 May 2010 08:20:11 -0600, wrote: On 09/05/2010 4:36 AM, bpuharic wrote: On Sat, 08 May 2010 21:36:42 -0600, wrote: And true. That is why business are not starting up hiring, guess he's too busy lying to notice business created 200,000 jobs last month...the most in years.. But this story will be far over the heads of our liberal weasels. They do not have the cranial capacity to understand it. biggest spenders in history: conservatives Your problem is you have to get the facts right first. Obviously you can't. your problem is the only fact you care about is the fact unemployment's not at 25%. you have blinders on Real unemplyment is closer to 25% than 3%. I don't like the government adjusted numbers. Even I did a double take when big mouth bull****ing Obama said it was better, unemplyment from 9.7 to 9.9. What is that fool think he is doing? Has not Obama any integrity at all? And it was supposed to be a hiring month...whew... no wonder the market tanked on Thursday. Saw right through Obama/democrat bull****. -- There is a sucker born every minute, liberals and our politicians are counting on it. |
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On May 9, 8:25*am, Canuck57 wrote:
On 09/05/2010 8:29 AM, bpuharic wrote: On Sun, 09 May 2010 08:20:11 -0600, wrote: On 09/05/2010 4:36 AM, bpuharic wrote: On Sat, 08 May 2010 21:36:42 -0600, wrote: And true. *That is why business are not starting up hiring, guess he's too busy lying to notice business created 200,000 jobs last month...the most in years.. But this story will be far over the heads of our liberal weasels. *They do not have the cranial capacity to understand it. biggest spenders in history: conservatives Your problem is you have to get the facts right first. *Obviously you can't. your problem is the only fact you care about is the fact unemployment's not at 25%. you have blinders on Real unemplyment is closer to 25% than 3%. *I don't like the government adjusted numbers. Even I did a double take when big mouth bull****ing Obama said it was better, unemplyment from 9.7 to 9.9. *What is that fool think he is doing? *Has not Obama any integrity at all? And it was supposed to be a hiring month...whew... no wonder the market tanked on Thursday. *Saw right through Obama/democrat bull****. -- There is a sucker born every minute, liberals and our politicians are counting on it. Those of us who would normally be doing stuff that generates jobs are now sitting back (and going to the bahamas) and shaking our heads at the stupidity of those who complain about the lack of jobs. Why should we take chances so they can then punish us for creating jobs? No thanks, I'll figure out ways to do stuff without any more workers or simply not do stuff that requires workers. Whoa, triple dip recession due to Obamonomics stupidity. Obama does not care about Americans, he has done nearly nothing and goes golfing while Nashville floods under the greatest disaster TN has had since the Civil war. Economic expansion is now taking place overseas and those of us who want to do stuff are working with businesses over there, screw the Demomorons. |
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On Sun, 09 May 2010 09:17:07 -0600, Canuck57
wrote: On 09/05/2010 8:29 AM, bpuharic wrote: On Sun, 09 May 2010 08:20:11 -0600, wrote: your problem is the only fact you care about is the fact unemployment's not at 25%. you have blinders on Actually, i would like unemployment to be 3% except, of course, the economic policies you push would drive unemployment to 25%. The statists think they can maintain the ponzi debt management to prosperity, but as we can see, the age old adage, "You can't debt-spend your way out of debt!" is reality. the conservatives are the statists. they cut taxes on the rich, passed the bill to the middle class and creates socialism for the rich Obamanomics is a bust, an utter failure you mean because the economy is growing? strange definition of failure you have. guess you forgot that bush spent us into a depression and spent a trillion on a useless war .. Sad joke on Americans. DC corruption gone mad. Obama has almost already spent about what Reagan and Bush spent in 16 years but did it in 2! guess you don't know what happens during a depression, do you? figures. right whiners value ideology over facts Unadjusted, unemployment will hit 25++% and it might be as early as this fall. The more the government debt-spends and taxes, the worse it will get. again you don't know what happens to unemployment when a depression ends, do you? you think it initially goes down it does not. it goes up. but you're a right winger so are unable to understand. |
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On Sun, 09 May 2010 09:25:03 -0600, Canuck57
wrote: On 09/05/2010 8:29 AM, bpuharic wrote: On Sun, 09 May 2010 08:20:11 -0600, wrote: Your problem is you have to get the facts right first. Obviously you can't. your problem is the only fact you care about is the fact unemployment's not at 25%. you have blinders on Real unemplyment is closer to 25% than 3%. I don't like the government adjusted numbers. real unemployment under bush, then, was over 15%. and it's rocketed up because of the bush depression. Even I did a double take when big mouth bull****ing Obama said it was better, unemplyment from 9.7 to 9.9. What is that fool think he is doing? Has not Obama any integrity at all? guess you think unemployment goes down when a depression ends. it does not. in fact it's standard economics: when a depression ends unemployment goes UP because more discouraged people re-enter the workforce but you're too stupid to understand that. And it was supposed to be a hiring month...whew... no wonder the market tanked on Thursday. Saw right through Obama/democrat bull****. the economy created more jobs last month than any month in 4 years. but, again, you're too stupid to see that. |
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On Sun, 9 May 2010 09:19:00 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote: On May 9, 8:25*am, Canuck57 wrote: On 09/05/2010 8:29 AM, bpuharic wrote: Real unemplyment is closer to 25% than 3%. *I don't like the government adjusted numbers. Even I did a double take when big mouth bull****ing Obama said it was better, unemplyment from 9.7 to 9.9. *What is that fool think he is doing? *Has not Obama any integrity at all? And it was supposed to be a hiring month...whew... no wonder the market tanked on Thursday. *Saw right through Obama/democrat bull****. -- There is a sucker born every minute, liberals and our politicians are counting on it. Those of us who would normally be doing stuff that generates jobs are now sitting back (and going to the bahamas) and shaking our heads at the stupidity of those who complain about the lack of jobs. Why should we take chances so they can then punish us for creating jobs? guess he doesn't pay attention to the news. the economy created over 200K jobs last month...the most since 2006 but, no one ever accused the right of paying too much attention to facts No thanks, I'll figure out ways to do stuff without any more workers or simply not do stuff that requires workers. Whoa, triple dip recession due to Obamonomics stupidity. Obama does not care about Americans, he has done nearly nothing a not according to roubini. he sees a U shaped recession...we're out of it and the economy is growing but no one ever accused the right of paying too much attention to facts nd goes golfing while Nashville floods under the greatest disaster TN has had since the Civil war. Economic expansion is now taking place overseas the US economy has been growing at 3.6% for the last 2 quarters...and 5.6 in the quarter preceding those but no one ever accused the right of paying too much attention to facts and those of us who want to do stuff are working with businesses over there, screw the Demomorons. gee. what's happened to the euro vs the dollar? but no one's ever accused the right of paying too much attention to facts |
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On 09/05/2010 10:19 AM, Frogwatch wrote:
On May 9, 8:25 am, wrote: On 09/05/2010 8:29 AM, bpuharic wrote: On Sun, 09 May 2010 08:20:11 -0600, wrote: On 09/05/2010 4:36 AM, bpuharic wrote: On Sat, 08 May 2010 21:36:42 -0600, wrote: And true. That is why business are not starting up hiring, guess he's too busy lying to notice business created 200,000 jobs last month...the most in years.. But this story will be far over the heads of our liberal weasels. They do not have the cranial capacity to understand it. biggest spenders in history: conservatives Your problem is you have to get the facts right first. Obviously you can't. your problem is the only fact you care about is the fact unemployment's not at 25%. you have blinders on Real unemplyment is closer to 25% than 3%. I don't like the government adjusted numbers. Even I did a double take when big mouth bull****ing Obama said it was better, unemplyment from 9.7 to 9.9. What is that fool think he is doing? Has not Obama any integrity at all? And it was supposed to be a hiring month...whew... no wonder the market tanked on Thursday. Saw right through Obama/democrat bull****. -- There is a sucker born every minute, liberals and our politicians are counting on it. Those of us who would normally be doing stuff that generates jobs are now sitting back (and going to the bahamas) and shaking our heads at the stupidity of those who complain about the lack of jobs. Why should we take chances so they can then punish us for creating jobs? No thanks, I'll figure out ways to do stuff without any more workers or simply not do stuff that requires workers. Whoa, triple dip recession due to Obamonomics stupidity. Obama does not care about Americans, he has done nearly nothing and goes golfing while Nashville floods under the greatest disaster TN has had since the Civil war. Economic expansion is now taking place overseas and those of us who want to do stuff are working with businesses over there, screw the Demomorons. You got it. But it isn't just Democriters, it is a social attitude of entitlement, self pity and irrational loser mentality. The win-loose philosophy. Really self destructive envy and greed. I am 2 cents to packing it in and calling it a day with this economy. Going home shopping in Costa Rica and Panama at some point, and if I find a place we like, we will liquidate and move. Let the losers fund their own nonsense until they smarten up. And if they wake up, which isn't likely I can invest from abroad at a lower tax rate. -- There is a sucker born every minute, liberals and our politicians are counting on it. |
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In article , says... Fairly competent resources are available off-shore for 1/4 to 1/3 the cost of US resources without all of the bagage of hiring a US resource. In fact you can hire 2 for 1 US worker and not still be ahead if the productivity is only 50% each. Correction "2 for 1 US worker and still be ahead" Plain stupid thinking. Those working will have to support those not working. Or get their throats cut. Is that what you mean by "a head?" You sound like a commie. In America we want everybody working. Your "foreigner first" attitude don't fly. Jim - The end result of Libertarianism is Communism. The Libertarian leadership become the apparatchiks. These closet commies ain't fooling anybody. That's why they never get anywhere in America. They don't have American values. They're commie faggots. The GOP knows this. Even the queer Demoncrats know it. |
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On 09/05/2010 11:02 AM, Jim wrote:
BAR wrote: In article , says... Fairly competent resources are available off-shore for 1/4 to 1/3 the cost of US resources without all of the bagage of hiring a US resource. In fact you can hire 2 for 1 US worker and not still be ahead if the productivity is only 50% each. Correction "2 for 1 US worker and still be ahead" Plain stupid thinking. Those working will have to support those not working. Or get their throats cut. Is that what you mean by "a head?" You sound like a commie. In America we want everybody working. Your "foreigner first" attitude don't fly. That is why it is a depression. Fewer people supporting the increasing dead weight and more corruption too. A loose-loose situation. Why even get involved? You would have to be nuts to open a new business in the US/Canada that could be done offshore where win-win is possible. Jim - The end result of Libertarianism is Communism. The Libertarian leadership become the apparatchiks. These closet commies ain't fooling anybody. That's why they never get anywhere in America. They don't have American values. They're commie faggots. The GOP knows this. Even the queer Demoncrats know it. Huh? Libertarianism is about less government, less interferance, more choices and opportunities for the people will to get off their asses, state owns squat. How does that equate with communism? -- There is a sucker born every minute, liberals and our politicians are counting on it. |
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BAR wrote: In article , says... Fairly competent resources are available off-shore for 1/4 to 1/3 the cost of US resources without all of the bagage of hiring a US resource. In fact you can hire 2 for 1 US worker and not still be ahead if the productivity is only 50% each. Correction "2 for 1 US worker and still be ahead" Plain stupid thinking. Those working will have to support those not working. Or get their throats cut. Is that what you mean by "a head?" You sound like a commie. In America we want everybody working. Your "foreigner first" attitude don't fly. It is called business. And, the decisions are made to keep the stock price of US based corporations rising to make them attractive to the large institutional investors (i.e. pension funds). If I am lucky enough to get 75% out of the two off-shore resources for 2/3'rds the cost of a single on-shore resource then I am way ahead of the game. By duty is to the share holders, not the government. If I had the ability to abolish entitlements at the federal level I would do it tomorrow. There is no reason that the federal government should be passing out social security checks, paying for medical benefits or other entitlements. The only thing you are entitled to do in life is to die, everything else is optional. Jim - The end result of Libertarianism is Communism. The Libertarian leadership become the apparatchiks. These closet commies ain't fooling anybody. That's why they never get anywhere in America. They don't have American values. They're commie faggots. The GOP knows this. Even the queer Demoncrats know it. Libertarians arguments fall apart as soon as they step off of their property. |
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On 09/05/2010 10:28 AM, bpuharic wrote:
guess he doesn't pay attention to the news. the economy created over 200K jobs last month...the most since 2006 So Obama looses even more jobs than were created, and those created were low wage jobs often without benefits. LMAO, I can't believe you are this stupid, but don't doubt it. Lets look at the data: http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm Unemployment went from 9.7 to 9.9. Funny how even the adjusted BS number goes up and you and Obama imply it went down. Second issue is Obama didn't create any jobs, businesses did. Probalby with EI run out, get them back cheap. I see those unemployed for more than 27 weeks is at a new all time high. No good news there. I see 195,000 re-enter the work force, guess more couples are working more jobs to make up for lower wages. Not good. 2.1 to 2.4 million part timers, hell, those jobs are not enough to live on. Must be with new lower paying jobs, they need the second part time job to make ends meet and it squeezes up the student unemployment to 25.5%. No good news here. Pretty small gains in manufacturing. Almost not worth a mention. Not really good news here as at this time of year it should be much better. Only 14,000 for construction? Whippy do. At that rate it will take 40 years to compensate for what happened last year at this time. I might not live that long. A grain of small news, 66,000 hired by the government part time. Charge it to future debt will ya. Drilling in a bit I see full time worker unemployment has increased at a time I would expect it to decrease. No wonder the market went nuts on Thursday. I would pay big bucks to see this a few hours earlier...as I am sure some did. Computer glitch my ass.... Obamanomics is a dismal failure of giagantic proportions. 100% democratic liberal loser mentality f--kup. You should want to fire them all. If they worked for me, they would be so fired as what they cot they should be able to do better. -- There is a sucker born every minute, liberals and our politicians are counting on it. |
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On Sun, 09 May 2010 10:51:45 -0600, Canuck57
wrote: On 09/05/2010 10:23 AM, bpuharic wrote: On Sun, 09 May 2010 09:17:07 -0600, wrote: On 09/05/2010 8:29 AM, bpuharic wrote: On Sun, 09 May 2010 08:20:11 -0600, wrote: your problem is the only fact you care about is the fact unemployment's not at 25%. you have blinders on Actually, i would like unemployment to be 3% except, of course, the economic policies you push would drive unemployment to 25%. Mine have never been tried, the closest would be Reaganomics sure they were tried. in 29 they let the banks fail, as you desire. it drove unemployment to 25% .. It would differ in that I would downsize 1/3rd of the governemnt to match as not to increase debt by too much. govt represents 20% of GDP. cutting 1/3 of that would drop the GDP by 7%....which is about the amount of GDP drop that led to the current depression so you're saying you'd cause a depression to cure a depression? yep. that sounds very right wing. I would stop the Afganistan/Iraq issue ASAP that's because you're a coward. the iraq war is useless. but you're a coward and think only of money so dont even appreciate the heroic sacrifice CANADIANS are making against fascist imperialist aggression in afghanistan In 2 years, the USA will become the hottest growing economy going. really? when the GDP drops 7%...like it just did...that led to a depression what we need are tax cuts for the middle class. that's something not a single right winger has proposed we need a tax increase on the wealthy...another thing the right opposes Instead of wasting trillions on GM, banks and losers, I would put some towards nuclear power plants employing people across the nation equally and have something to show for it. And it would cost a fraction fo the bailoouts. why? oil represents 8% of power generation. and building nukes would take 20 years. You wouldn't see me shooting off my mouth too much, as I would be a man of action and not big mouth bull****. I would gve your results and not gums a flapping. what i notice is that you ignore the problem. we need to regulate wall street. you ignore wall street because of the rich. we need to regulate financial instruments. you ignore them you ignore the problem...the real problem. the fact is, until wall street greed caused the economic collapse, govt spending was not a huge problem. the real problem is the collapse in middel class spending caused by the rich stealing the wealth of the middle class you whine, bitch and moan about the darkie in the white house. you blame main street for the collapse your whole philosophy is right wing...which is why it's a failure Saddly some misguided ones are. But I am a conservative-libertarian. And I believe in peoples rights to seek out prosperity. If they get off their asses, it is up to them. A president first and formost needs to preserve what made America great. And that isn't jive talk bull**** we get today. more right wing bull****. the problem is NOT a lazy middle class. americans already work more than any other people on earth in industrialized countries you right whiners want us to be slaves Obamanomics is a bust, an utter failure you mean because the economy is growing? strange definition of failure you have. guess you forgot that bush spent us into a depression and spent a trillion on a useless war Proof it isn't inflation? Funny, I see no jobs, increasing taxes and stagnent wages. Some types of bankruptcies are at an all time high. you see no jobs? guess you dont follow the news. for the first time since 2006 the economy added jobs. and stagnant wages?? IT'S BEEN THAT WAY FOR 10 YEARS! a whole DECADE when the middle class had NO increase in wages while the richest 1% had a THREE HUNDRED PERCENT INCREASE in income. yet you say NOTHING about that. you right whiners...you focus on the bull****, penalize the middle class, insulate the rich from their mistakes THEN BITCH BITCH BITCH about the LAZY MIDDLE CLASS all you do is BITCH BITCH BITCH . Sad joke on Americans. DC corruption gone mad. Obama has almost already spent about what Reagan and Bush spent in 16 years but did it in 2! guess you don't know what happens during a depression, do you? figures. right whiners value ideology over facts I have read all about 1929 to 1939. That is why I know it isn't going to end soon. Statism and liberal selfish *******s need to learn the basic leasons first. And only now are some waking up to smell, better get the government in fiscal order or Greece will infect NY. like i said. you have NO idea what happens during a depression hey idiot...do me a favor tell me when in the last 80 years the govt ran a surplus during a depression, OK otherwise just stop pumping out the fairy tale right wing bull**** Huh? Do you subscribe to bull**** economics? Employment always gets better in 30-60 days. Maybe 4 months if it is like Intel still selling chips out of production for 8 months, but it is rare. Employment is real recovery. really? it takes a full YEAR of economic growth at 5% to reduce unemployment by 1% but you're so full of right wing bull**** you think rush limball is a hero |
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