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John H[_2_] May 9th 10 02:11 AM

For you tax wizards...
 
Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all ten comes
to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something
like this:

The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.
The fifth would pay $1.
The sixth would pay $3.
The seventh would pay $7.
The eighth would pay $12.
The ninth would pay $18.
The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59.

So, that's what they decided to do. The ten men drank in the bar every day and
seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a
curve. 'Since you are all such good customers,' he said, 'I'm going to reduce
the cost of your daily beer by $20.'Drinks for the ten now cost just $80.

The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes so the first
four men were unaffected. They would still drink for free. But what about the
other six men - the paying customers? How could they divide the $20 windfall so
that everyone would get his 'fair share?' They realized that $20 divided by six
is $3.33. But if they subtracted that from everybody's share, then the fifth man
and the sixth man would each end up being paid to drink his beer. So, the bar
owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man's bill by roughly the
same amount and he proceeded to work out the amounts each should pay.

And so:

The fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% savings).
The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33%savings).
The seventh now pay $5 instead of $7 (28%savings).
The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% savings).
The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% savings).
The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% savings).

Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued to
drink for free. But once outside the restaurant, the men began to compare their
savings.

'I only got a dollar out of the $20,'declared the sixth man. He pointed to the
tenth man,' but he got $10!' 'Yeah, that's right,' exclaimed the fifth man. 'I
only saved a dollar, too. It's unfair that he got ten times as much as I!'
'That's true!!' shouted the seventh man. 'Why should he get $10 back when I got
only two? The wealthy get all the breaks!'

'Wait a minute,' yelled the first four men in unison. 'We didn't get anything at
all. The system exploits the poor!'

The nine men surrounded the tenth man and beat him up. The next night the tenth
man didn't show up for drinks, so the nine sat down and had beers without him.
But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They
didn't have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill!

And that, boys and girls, journalists and college professors, is how our tax
system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most benefit from a
tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just
may not show up anymore. In fact, they might start drinking overseas where the
atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.

David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D.
Professor of Economics
University of Georgia

For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not
understand, no explanation is possible.

--
John H

For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v

bpuharic May 9th 10 02:14 AM

For you tax wizards...
 
On Sat, 08 May 2010 21:11:11 -0400, John H
wrote:


The nine men surrounded the tenth man and beat him up. The next night the tenth
man didn't show up for drinks, so the nine sat down and had beers without him.
But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They
didn't have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill!

And that, boys and girls, journalists and college professors, is how our tax
system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most benefit from a
tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just
may not show up anymore. In fact, they might start drinking overseas where the
atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.

David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D.
Professor of Economics
University of Georgia

For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not
understand, no explanation is possible.


oh brother...cry me a river for the rich. what you guys forget is that
of the $100, the rich guy gets 80 this year, 85 the year after, 90 the
year after that....

the other guys get zip but still have to buy the drinks

and spare me the risk of bitching about the rich. they just screwed
our economy like they were priests and the middle class was an altar
boy.


Wayne.B May 9th 10 02:18 AM

For you tax wizards...
 
On Sat, 08 May 2010 21:11:11 -0400, John H
wrote:

In fact, they might start drinking overseas where the
atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.


In fact, overseas, not paying taxes has become a finely honed
tradition, especially for the very wealthy.

Look where Greece has ended up.

nom=de=plume[_2_] May 9th 10 02:33 AM

For you tax wizards...
 
"John H" wrote in message
...
Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all ten
comes
to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go
something
like this:

The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.
The fifth would pay $1.
The sixth would pay $3.
The seventh would pay $7.
The eighth would pay $12.
The ninth would pay $18.
The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59.

So, that's what they decided to do. The ten men drank in the bar every day
and
seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw
them a
curve. 'Since you are all such good customers,' he said, 'I'm going to
reduce
the cost of your daily beer by $20.'Drinks for the ten now cost just $80.

The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes so the
first
four men were unaffected. They would still drink for free. But what about
the
other six men - the paying customers? How could they divide the $20
windfall so
that everyone would get his 'fair share?' They realized that $20 divided
by six
is $3.33. But if they subtracted that from everybody's share, then the
fifth man
and the sixth man would each end up being paid to drink his beer. So, the
bar
owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man's bill by roughly
the
same amount and he proceeded to work out the amounts each should pay.

And so:

The fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% savings).
The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33%savings).
The seventh now pay $5 instead of $7 (28%savings).
The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% savings).
The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% savings).
The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% savings).

Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued
to
drink for free. But once outside the restaurant, the men began to compare
their
savings.

'I only got a dollar out of the $20,'declared the sixth man. He pointed to
the
tenth man,' but he got $10!' 'Yeah, that's right,' exclaimed the fifth
man. 'I
only saved a dollar, too. It's unfair that he got ten times as much as I!'
'That's true!!' shouted the seventh man. 'Why should he get $10 back when
I got
only two? The wealthy get all the breaks!'

'Wait a minute,' yelled the first four men in unison. 'We didn't get
anything at
all. The system exploits the poor!'

The nine men surrounded the tenth man and beat him up. The next night the
tenth
man didn't show up for drinks, so the nine sat down and had beers without
him.
But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something
important. They
didn't have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill!

And that, boys and girls, journalists and college professors, is how our
tax
system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most benefit
from a
tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they
just
may not show up anymore. In fact, they might start drinking overseas where
the
atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.

David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D.
Professor of Economics
University of Georgia

For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not
understand, no explanation is possible.

--
John H

For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v



You would be among the four that don't pay. I'm certain of it. So, why do
you care?



Canuck57[_9_] May 9th 10 04:36 AM

For you tax wizards...
 
On 08/05/2010 7:11 PM, John H wrote:
Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all ten comes
to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something
like this:

The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.
The fifth would pay $1.
The sixth would pay $3.
The seventh would pay $7.
The eighth would pay $12.
The ninth would pay $18.
The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59.

So, that's what they decided to do. The ten men drank in the bar every day and
seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a
curve. 'Since you are all such good customers,' he said, 'I'm going to reduce
the cost of your daily beer by $20.'Drinks for the ten now cost just $80.

The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes so the first
four men were unaffected. They would still drink for free. But what about the
other six men - the paying customers? How could they divide the $20 windfall so
that everyone would get his 'fair share?' They realized that $20 divided by six
is $3.33. But if they subtracted that from everybody's share, then the fifth man
and the sixth man would each end up being paid to drink his beer. So, the bar
owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man's bill by roughly the
same amount and he proceeded to work out the amounts each should pay.

And so:

The fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% savings).
The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33%savings).
The seventh now pay $5 instead of $7 (28%savings).
The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% savings).
The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% savings).
The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% savings).

Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued to
drink for free. But once outside the restaurant, the men began to compare their
savings.

'I only got a dollar out of the $20,'declared the sixth man. He pointed to the
tenth man,' but he got $10!' 'Yeah, that's right,' exclaimed the fifth man. 'I
only saved a dollar, too. It's unfair that he got ten times as much as I!'
'That's true!!' shouted the seventh man. 'Why should he get $10 back when I got
only two? The wealthy get all the breaks!'

'Wait a minute,' yelled the first four men in unison. 'We didn't get anything at
all. The system exploits the poor!'

The nine men surrounded the tenth man and beat him up. The next night the tenth
man didn't show up for drinks, so the nine sat down and had beers without him.
But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They
didn't have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill!

And that, boys and girls, journalists and college professors, is how our tax
system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most benefit from a
tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just
may not show up anymore. In fact, they might start drinking overseas where the
atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.

David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D.
Professor of Economics
University of Georgia

For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not
understand, no explanation is possible.

--
John H

For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v


And true. That is why business are not starting up hiring, and why many
are a leaving. Finally got too much to be worthwhile. Too much rish
and no gain, or as in many cases, too much losses to continue.

But this story will be far over the heads of our liberal weasels. They
do not have the cranial capacity to understand it.

Good post.

--
There is a sucker born every minute, liberals and our politicians are
counting on it.

Canuck57[_9_] May 9th 10 04:42 AM

For you tax wizards...
 
On 08/05/2010 7:14 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 08 May 2010 21:11:11 -0400, John
wrote:


The nine men surrounded the tenth man and beat him up. The next night the tenth
man didn't show up for drinks, so the nine sat down and had beers without him.
But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They
didn't have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill!

And that, boys and girls, journalists and college professors, is how our tax
system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most benefit from a
tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just
may not show up anymore. In fact, they might start drinking overseas where the
atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.

David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D.
Professor of Economics
University of Georgia

For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not
understand, no explanation is possible.


oh brother...cry me a river for the rich. what you guys forget is that
of the $100, the rich guy gets 80 this year, 85 the year after, 90 the
year after that....

the other guys get zip but still have to buy the drinks

and spare me the risk of bitching about the rich. they just screwed
our economy like they were priests and the middle class was an altar
boy.


We know you and de-fumer would be the cheap skates. So quit your bitching.

--
There is a sucker born every minute, liberals and our politicians are
counting on it.

Canuck57[_9_] May 9th 10 04:46 AM

For you tax wizards...
 
On 08/05/2010 7:27 PM, A.Boater wrote:

If the 2 richest guys were in the 91% bracket, like they were when you were
born, there probably wouldn't be a problem. Your economist isn't any better
at drama that he is at economics.


I can say this is true from personal experience. Going out for beers
(and meals) and listening to excuses, envy, embitterment, self pitty
from screwups then getting stuck with the bill happened to me once too
many. So I changed my friends, making sure they were not into self
pity, loser mentality, sub-life slugs and now enjoy it much more.

Can't soar with the eagles when sitting at the bottom getting blood sucked.

--
There is a sucker born every minute, liberals and our politicians are
counting on it.

Canuck57[_9_] May 9th 10 04:47 AM

For you tax wizards...
 
On 08/05/2010 7:33 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
"John wrote in message
...
Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all ten
comes
to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go
something
like this:

The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.
The fifth would pay $1.
The sixth would pay $3.
The seventh would pay $7.
The eighth would pay $12.
The ninth would pay $18.
The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59.

So, that's what they decided to do. The ten men drank in the bar every day
and
seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw
them a
curve. 'Since you are all such good customers,' he said, 'I'm going to
reduce
the cost of your daily beer by $20.'Drinks for the ten now cost just $80.

The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes so the
first
four men were unaffected. They would still drink for free. But what about
the
other six men - the paying customers? How could they divide the $20
windfall so
that everyone would get his 'fair share?' They realized that $20 divided
by six
is $3.33. But if they subtracted that from everybody's share, then the
fifth man
and the sixth man would each end up being paid to drink his beer. So, the
bar
owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man's bill by roughly
the
same amount and he proceeded to work out the amounts each should pay.

And so:

The fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% savings).
The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33%savings).
The seventh now pay $5 instead of $7 (28%savings).
The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% savings).
The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% savings).
The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% savings).

Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued
to
drink for free. But once outside the restaurant, the men began to compare
their
savings.

'I only got a dollar out of the $20,'declared the sixth man. He pointed to
the
tenth man,' but he got $10!' 'Yeah, that's right,' exclaimed the fifth
man. 'I
only saved a dollar, too. It's unfair that he got ten times as much as I!'
'That's true!!' shouted the seventh man. 'Why should he get $10 back when
I got
only two? The wealthy get all the breaks!'

'Wait a minute,' yelled the first four men in unison. 'We didn't get
anything at
all. The system exploits the poor!'

The nine men surrounded the tenth man and beat him up. The next night the
tenth
man didn't show up for drinks, so the nine sat down and had beers without
him.
But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something
important. They
didn't have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill!

And that, boys and girls, journalists and college professors, is how our
tax
system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most benefit
from a
tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they
just
may not show up anymore. In fact, they might start drinking overseas where
the
atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.

David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D.
Professor of Economics
University of Georgia

For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not
understand, no explanation is possible.

--
John H

For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v



You would be among the four that don't pay. I'm certain of it. So, why do
you care?



First person I though of at being at the botton welshers was you and
pbuharic arguing about who was the most destitute of the two.

--
There is a sucker born every minute, liberals and our politicians are
counting on it.

bpuharic May 9th 10 11:34 AM

For you tax wizards...
 
On Sat, 08 May 2010 21:42:24 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 08/05/2010 7:14 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 08 May 2010 21:11:11 -0400, John
wrote:

oh brother...cry me a river for the rich. what you guys forget is that
of the $100, the rich guy gets 80 this year, 85 the year after, 90 the
year after that....

the other guys get zip but still have to buy the drinks

and spare me the risk of bitching about the rich. they just screwed
our economy like they were priests and the middle class was an altar
boy.


We know you and de-fumer would be the cheap skates. So quit your bitching.


that's true. that's why liberals balance the budget and right wingers
are socialists who spend the money of hard working people on the rich


bpuharic May 9th 10 11:34 AM

For you tax wizards...
 
On Sat, 08 May 2010 21:46:48 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 08/05/2010 7:27 PM, A.Boater wrote:

If the 2 richest guys were in the 91% bracket, like they were when you were
born, there probably wouldn't be a problem. Your economist isn't any better
at drama that he is at economics.


I can say this is true from personal experience. Going out for beers
(and meals) and listening to excuses, envy, embitterment, self pitty
from screwups


to the right wing, 100,000,000 hard working americans are 'screw ups'.

bpuharic May 9th 10 11:36 AM

For you tax wizards...
 
On Sat, 08 May 2010 21:36:42 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:



And true. That is why business are not starting up hiring,


guess he's too busy lying to notice business created 200,000 jobs last
month...the most in years..

But this story will be far over the heads of our liberal weasels. They
do not have the cranial capacity to understand it.


biggest spenders in history: conservatives

hk May 9th 10 01:47 PM

For you tax wizards...
 
On 5/8/10 11:46 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 08/05/2010 7:27 PM, A.Boater wrote:

If the 2 richest guys were in the 91% bracket, like they were when you
were
born, there probably wouldn't be a problem. Your economist isn't any
better
at drama that he is at economics.


I can say this is true from personal experience. Going out for beers
(and meals) and listening to excuses, envy, embitterment, self pitty
from screwups then getting stuck with the bill happened to me once too
many. So I changed my friends, making sure they were not into self pity,
loser mentality, sub-life slugs and now enjoy it much more.

Can't soar with the eagles when sitting at the bottom getting blood sucked.



The only way a loser like you could soar with the eagles would be if you
were roadkill, they fed upon you, and flew home some of your pieces to
regurgitate into the mouths of their nestlings.

--
The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name.

YukonBound May 9th 10 01:55 PM

For you tax wizards...
 


"hk" wrote in message
m...
On 5/8/10 11:46 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 08/05/2010 7:27 PM, A.Boater wrote:

If the 2 richest guys were in the 91% bracket, like they were when you
were
born, there probably wouldn't be a problem. Your economist isn't any
better
at drama that he is at economics.


I can say this is true from personal experience. Going out for beers
(and meals) and listening to excuses, envy, embitterment, self pitty
from screwups then getting stuck with the bill happened to me once too
many. So I changed my friends, making sure they were not into self pity,
loser mentality, sub-life slugs and now enjoy it much more.

Can't soar with the eagles when sitting at the bottom getting blood
sucked.



The only way a loser like you could soar with the eagles would be if you
were roadkill, they fed upon you, and flew home some of your pieces to
regurgitate into the mouths of their nestlings.


That would be a bitter meal indeed!


*e#c May 9th 10 02:25 PM

For you tax wizards...
 
On May 8, 9:14*pm, bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 08 May 2010 21:11:11 -0400, John H
wrote:



The nine men surrounded the tenth man and beat him up. The next night the tenth
man didn't show up for drinks, so the nine sat down and had beers without him.
But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They
didn't have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill!


And that, boys and girls, journalists and college professors, is how our tax
system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most benefit from a
tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just
may not show up anymore. In fact, they might start drinking overseas where the
atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.


David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D.
Professor of Economics
University of Georgia


For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not
understand, no explanation is possible.


oh brother...cry me a river for the rich. what you guys forget is that
of the $100, the rich guy gets 80 this year, 85 the year after, 90 the
year after that....

the other guys get zip but still have to buy the drinks

and spare me the risk of bitching about the rich. they just screwed
our economy like they were priests and the middle class was an altar
boy.


You've got to remember that Herring is on a government Pension. He
sucks off the teat of EVERYONES wages.

Canuck57[_9_] May 9th 10 03:08 PM

For you tax wizards...
 
On 09/05/2010 4:34 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 08 May 2010 21:42:24 -0600,
wrote:

On 08/05/2010 7:14 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 08 May 2010 21:11:11 -0400, John
wrote:

oh brother...cry me a river for the rich. what you guys forget is that
of the $100, the rich guy gets 80 this year, 85 the year after, 90 the
year after that....

the other guys get zip but still have to buy the drinks

and spare me the risk of bitching about the rich. they just screwed
our economy like they were priests and the middle class was an altar
boy.


We know you and de-fumer would be the cheap skates. So quit your bitching.


that's true. that's why liberals balance the budget and right wingers
are socialists who spend the money of hard working people on the rich


Funny, Obama is a liberal and now holds the record of being the worlds
largest debt increases in mankinds history.

A dubious honour for sure.
--
There is a sucker born every minute, liberals and our politicians are
counting on it.

Canuck57[_9_] May 9th 10 03:09 PM

For you tax wizards...
 
On 09/05/2010 7:25 AM, *e#c wrote:
On May 8, 9:14 pm, wrote:
On Sat, 08 May 2010 21:11:11 -0400, John
wrote:



The nine men surrounded the tenth man and beat him up. The next night the tenth
man didn't show up for drinks, so the nine sat down and had beers without him.
But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They
didn't have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill!


And that, boys and girls, journalists and college professors, is how our tax
system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most benefit from a
tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just
may not show up anymore. In fact, they might start drinking overseas where the
atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.


David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D.
Professor of Economics
University of Georgia


For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not
understand, no explanation is possible.


oh brother...cry me a river for the rich. what you guys forget is that
of the $100, the rich guy gets 80 this year, 85 the year after, 90 the
year after that....

the other guys get zip but still have to buy the drinks

and spare me the risk of bitching about the rich. they just screwed
our economy like they were priests and the middle class was an altar
boy.


You've got to remember that Herring is on a government Pension. He
sucks off the teat of EVERYONES wages.


Yep, he is a good good little statist-marxist.

--
There is a sucker born every minute, liberals and our politicians are
counting on it.

Canuck57[_9_] May 9th 10 03:16 PM

For you tax wizards...
 
On 09/05/2010 4:34 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 08 May 2010 21:46:48 -0600,
wrote:

On 08/05/2010 7:27 PM, A.Boater wrote:

If the 2 richest guys were in the 91% bracket, like they were when you were
born, there probably wouldn't be a problem. Your economist isn't any better
at drama that he is at economics.


I can say this is true from personal experience. Going out for beers
(and meals) and listening to excuses, envy, embitterment, self pitty
from screwups


to the right wing, 100,000,000 hard working americans are 'screw ups'.


Majority of them yes, worshiping debt and Obama is not good. Obama is
just the idiot they chose to appease the sheep, keeps them in line.
Hard to believe, but in some ways we see eye to eye, just that you think
Obama is some kind of saviour when he is just another piece in the game
to manage the herd.

Obama was picked as he could sell a good line of bull****.
--
There is a sucker born every minute, liberals and our politicians are
counting on it.

bpuharic May 9th 10 03:17 PM

For you tax wizards...
 
On Sun, 09 May 2010 08:08:18 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 09/05/2010 4:34 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 08 May 2010 21:42:24 -0600,
wrote:
.

that's true. that's why liberals balance the budget and right wingers
are socialists who spend the money of hard working people on the rich


Funny, Obama is a liberal and now holds the record of being the worlds
largest debt increases in mankinds history.


last guy to balance the budget: clinton

biggest spenders: bush and reagan

and the rich boys on wall street wiped out more in 1 day than obama's
spent in a year.

and obama? more people in the work force. GDP increasing. economy's
growing

he's applying standard keynesian economics rather than giving tax cuts
to the rich

it's working

A dubious honour for sure.


yeah i know. you weep because unemployment's not at 25%


Canuck57[_9_] May 9th 10 03:19 PM

For you tax wizards...
 
On 09/05/2010 6:55 AM, YukonBound wrote:


"hk" wrote in message
m...
On 5/8/10 11:46 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 08/05/2010 7:27 PM, A.Boater wrote:

If the 2 richest guys were in the 91% bracket, like they were when you
were
born, there probably wouldn't be a problem. Your economist isn't any
better
at drama that he is at economics.

I can say this is true from personal experience. Going out for beers
(and meals) and listening to excuses, envy, embitterment, self pitty
from screwups then getting stuck with the bill happened to me once too
many. So I changed my friends, making sure they were not into self pity,
loser mentality, sub-life slugs and now enjoy it much more.

Can't soar with the eagles when sitting at the bottom getting blood
sucked.



The only way a loser like you could soar with the eagles would be if
you were roadkill, they fed upon you, and flew home some of your
pieces to regurgitate into the mouths of their nestlings.


That would be a bitter meal indeed!


Yep, especiailly since I am in part a carnivor. Had rib-eye last night.
But I suspect we eagles and lions would leave the hk, pbuharic and
de-fumers for the vultures.

--
There is a sucker born every minute, liberals and our politicians are
counting on it.

Canuck57[_9_] May 9th 10 03:20 PM

For you tax wizards...
 
On 09/05/2010 4:36 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 08 May 2010 21:36:42 -0600,
wrote:



And true. That is why business are not starting up hiring,


guess he's too busy lying to notice business created 200,000 jobs last
month...the most in years..

But this story will be far over the heads of our liberal weasels. They
do not have the cranial capacity to understand it.


biggest spenders in history: conservatives


Your problem is you have to get the facts right first. Obviously you can't.

--
There is a sucker born every minute, liberals and our politicians are
counting on it.

hk May 9th 10 03:25 PM

For you tax wizards...
 
On 5/9/10 10:19 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 09/05/2010 6:55 AM, YukonBound wrote:


"hk" wrote in message
m...
On 5/8/10 11:46 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 08/05/2010 7:27 PM, A.Boater wrote:

If the 2 richest guys were in the 91% bracket, like they were when you
were
born, there probably wouldn't be a problem. Your economist isn't any
better
at drama that he is at economics.

I can say this is true from personal experience. Going out for beers
(and meals) and listening to excuses, envy, embitterment, self pitty
from screwups then getting stuck with the bill happened to me once too
many. So I changed my friends, making sure they were not into self
pity,
loser mentality, sub-life slugs and now enjoy it much more.

Can't soar with the eagles when sitting at the bottom getting blood
sucked.



The only way a loser like you could soar with the eagles would be if
you were roadkill, they fed upon you, and flew home some of your
pieces to regurgitate into the mouths of their nestlings.


That would be a bitter meal indeed!


Yep, especiailly since I am in part a carnivor. Had rib-eye last night.
But I suspect we eagles and lions would leave the hk, pbuharic and
de-fumers for the vultures.


Eagles and lions? You're a little putz who lives north of the board.

--
The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name.

bpuharic May 9th 10 03:28 PM

For you tax wizards...
 
On Sun, 09 May 2010 08:16:59 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 09/05/2010 4:34 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 08 May 2010 21:46:48 -0600,
wrote:

On 08/05/2010 7:27 PM, A.Boater wrote:

If the 2 richest guys were in the 91% bracket, like they were when you were
born, there probably wouldn't be a problem. Your economist isn't any better
at drama that he is at economics.

I can say this is true from personal experience. Going out for beers
(and meals) and listening to excuses, envy, embitterment, self pitty
from screwups


to the right wing, 100,000,000 hard working americans are 'screw ups'.


Majority of them yes, worshiping debt and Obama is not good.


ROFLMAO!! and how did bush treat them? like a baby treats a diaper!
give 8,000,000 of them pink slips. boosted spending more than any
other president in history. spent a TRILLION on a useless war

how'd that work out?

Obama is
just the idiot they chose to appease the sheep, keeps them in line.


uh huh. and what did bush do for them? nothing. you right wingers
think the US economy is failing if unemployment's not at 25%.

bush tortured US citizens. you guys say that's OK. he locked up
americans without trial. right wingers think that'st great

obama is black. that's the ONLY reason you hate him

Hard to believe, but in some ways we see eye to eye, just that you think
Obama is some kind of saviour when he is just another piece in the game
to manage the herd.


i don't think he's a savior. i think he's the least objectionable
choice.


Obama was picked as he could sell a good line of bull****.


and how would palin have worked out? once mccain had a fatal stroke,
you feel palin would have done a fine job defending the rights of
working folks?

she's never done it in her history. but she's defended the rich. to
you that's all that matters


bpuharic May 9th 10 03:29 PM

For you tax wizards...
 
On Sun, 09 May 2010 08:20:11 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 09/05/2010 4:36 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 08 May 2010 21:36:42 -0600,
wrote:



And true. That is why business are not starting up hiring,


guess he's too busy lying to notice business created 200,000 jobs last
month...the most in years..

But this story will be far over the heads of our liberal weasels. They
do not have the cranial capacity to understand it.


biggest spenders in history: conservatives


Your problem is you have to get the facts right first. Obviously you can't.


your problem is the only fact you care about is the fact
unemployment's not at 25%. you have blinders on


Canuck57[_9_] May 9th 10 04:11 PM

For you tax wizards...
 
On 09/05/2010 8:25 AM, hk wrote:
On 5/9/10 10:19 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 09/05/2010 6:55 AM, YukonBound wrote:


"hk" wrote in message
m...
On 5/8/10 11:46 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 08/05/2010 7:27 PM, A.Boater wrote:

If the 2 richest guys were in the 91% bracket, like they were when
you
were
born, there probably wouldn't be a problem. Your economist isn't any
better
at drama that he is at economics.

I can say this is true from personal experience. Going out for beers
(and meals) and listening to excuses, envy, embitterment, self pitty
from screwups then getting stuck with the bill happened to me once too
many. So I changed my friends, making sure they were not into self
pity,
loser mentality, sub-life slugs and now enjoy it much more.

Can't soar with the eagles when sitting at the bottom getting blood
sucked.



The only way a loser like you could soar with the eagles would be if
you were roadkill, they fed upon you, and flew home some of your
pieces to regurgitate into the mouths of their nestlings.


That would be a bitter meal indeed!


Yep, especiailly since I am in part a carnivor. Had rib-eye last night.
But I suspect we eagles and lions would leave the hk, pbuharic and
de-fumers for the vultures.


Eagles and lions? You're a little putz who lives north of the board.


Border not board.

Sure beats being a sheep.

--
There is a sucker born every minute, liberals and our politicians are
counting on it.

Canuck57[_9_] May 9th 10 04:17 PM

For you tax wizards...
 
On 09/05/2010 8:29 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 09 May 2010 08:20:11 -0600,
wrote:

On 09/05/2010 4:36 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 08 May 2010 21:36:42 -0600,
wrote:



And true. That is why business are not starting up hiring,

guess he's too busy lying to notice business created 200,000 jobs last
month...the most in years..

But this story will be far over the heads of our liberal weasels. They
do not have the cranial capacity to understand it.


biggest spenders in history: conservatives


Your problem is you have to get the facts right first. Obviously you can't.


your problem is the only fact you care about is the fact
unemployment's not at 25%. you have blinders on


Actually, i would like unemployment to be 3%. Everybody wins. But it
will not happen for at least a decade maybe 2 or 3. he reality is the
US government is bankrupt and floundering like a fish on a hot deck.

The statists think they can maintain the ponzi debt management to
prosperity, but as we can see, the age old adage, "You can't debt-spend
your way out of debt!" is reality.

Obamanomics is a bust, an utter failure. Sad joke on Americans. DC
corruption gone mad. Obama has almost already spent about what Reagan
and Bush spent in 16 years but did it in 2!

Unadjusted, unemployment will hit 25++% and it might be as early as this
fall. The more the government debt-spends and taxes, the worse it will get.
--
There is a sucker born every minute, liberals and our politicians are
counting on it.

moose[_2_] May 9th 10 04:20 PM

For you tax wizards...
 
On 5/9/2010 10:25 AM, hk wrote:
On 5/9/10 10:19 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 09/05/2010 6:55 AM, YukonBound wrote:


"hk" wrote in message
m...
On 5/8/10 11:46 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 08/05/2010 7:27 PM, A.Boater wrote:

If the 2 richest guys were in the 91% bracket, like they were when
you
were
born, there probably wouldn't be a problem. Your economist isn't any
better
at drama that he is at economics.

I can say this is true from personal experience. Going out for beers
(and meals) and listening to excuses, envy, embitterment, self pitty
from screwups then getting stuck with the bill happened to me once too
many. So I changed my friends, making sure they were not into self
pity,
loser mentality, sub-life slugs and now enjoy it much more.

Can't soar with the eagles when sitting at the bottom getting blood
sucked.



The only way a loser like you could soar with the eagles would be if
you were roadkill, they fed upon you, and flew home some of your
pieces to regurgitate into the mouths of their nestlings.


That would be a bitter meal indeed!


Yep, especiailly since I am in part a carnivor. Had rib-eye last night.
But I suspect we eagles and lions would leave the hk, pbuharic and
de-fumers for the vultures.


Eagles and lions? You're a little putz who lives north of the board.


Whose board? What board?

Canuck57[_9_] May 9th 10 04:25 PM

For you tax wizards...
 
On 09/05/2010 8:29 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 09 May 2010 08:20:11 -0600,
wrote:

On 09/05/2010 4:36 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 08 May 2010 21:36:42 -0600,
wrote:



And true. That is why business are not starting up hiring,

guess he's too busy lying to notice business created 200,000 jobs last
month...the most in years..

But this story will be far over the heads of our liberal weasels. They
do not have the cranial capacity to understand it.


biggest spenders in history: conservatives


Your problem is you have to get the facts right first. Obviously you can't.


your problem is the only fact you care about is the fact
unemployment's not at 25%. you have blinders on


Real unemplyment is closer to 25% than 3%. I don't like the government
adjusted numbers.

Even I did a double take when big mouth bull****ing Obama said it was
better, unemplyment from 9.7 to 9.9. What is that fool think he is
doing? Has not Obama any integrity at all?

And it was supposed to be a hiring month...whew... no wonder the market
tanked on Thursday. Saw right through Obama/democrat bull****.

--
There is a sucker born every minute, liberals and our politicians are
counting on it.

Frogwatch May 9th 10 05:19 PM

For you tax wizards...
 
On May 9, 8:25*am, Canuck57 wrote:
On 09/05/2010 8:29 AM, bpuharic wrote:



On Sun, 09 May 2010 08:20:11 -0600,
wrote:


On 09/05/2010 4:36 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 08 May 2010 21:36:42 -0600,
wrote:


And true. *That is why business are not starting up hiring,


guess he's too busy lying to notice business created 200,000 jobs last
month...the most in years..


But this story will be far over the heads of our liberal weasels. *They
do not have the cranial capacity to understand it.


biggest spenders in history: conservatives


Your problem is you have to get the facts right first. *Obviously you can't.


your problem is the only fact you care about is the fact
unemployment's not at 25%. you have blinders on


Real unemplyment is closer to 25% than 3%. *I don't like the government
adjusted numbers.

Even I did a double take when big mouth bull****ing Obama said it was
better, unemplyment from 9.7 to 9.9. *What is that fool think he is
doing? *Has not Obama any integrity at all?

And it was supposed to be a hiring month...whew... no wonder the market
tanked on Thursday. *Saw right through Obama/democrat bull****.

--
There is a sucker born every minute, liberals and our politicians are
counting on it.


Those of us who would normally be doing stuff that generates jobs are
now sitting back (and going to the bahamas) and shaking our heads at
the stupidity of those who complain about the lack of jobs. Why
should we take chances so they can then punish us for creating jobs?
No thanks, I'll figure out ways to do stuff without any more workers
or simply not do stuff that requires workers. Whoa, triple dip
recession due to Obamonomics stupidity. Obama does not care about
Americans, he has done nearly nothing and goes golfing while Nashville
floods under the greatest disaster TN has had since the Civil war.
Economic expansion is now taking place overseas and those of us who
want to do stuff are working with businesses over there, screw the
Demomorons.

bpuharic May 9th 10 05:23 PM

For you tax wizards...
 
On Sun, 09 May 2010 09:17:07 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 09/05/2010 8:29 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 09 May 2010 08:20:11 -0600,
wrote:


your problem is the only fact you care about is the fact
unemployment's not at 25%. you have blinders on


Actually, i would like unemployment to be 3%


except, of course, the economic policies you push would drive
unemployment to 25%.


The statists think they can maintain the ponzi debt management to
prosperity, but as we can see, the age old adage, "You can't debt-spend
your way out of debt!" is reality.


the conservatives are the statists. they cut taxes on the rich, passed
the bill to the middle class and creates socialism for the rich


Obamanomics is a bust, an utter failure


you mean because the economy is growing? strange definition of failure
you have. guess you forgot that bush spent us into a depression and
spent a trillion on a useless war

.. Sad joke on Americans. DC
corruption gone mad. Obama has almost already spent about what Reagan
and Bush spent in 16 years but did it in 2!


guess you don't know what happens during a depression, do you?
figures. right whiners value ideology over facts


Unadjusted, unemployment will hit 25++% and it might be as early as this
fall. The more the government debt-spends and taxes, the worse it will get.


again you don't know what happens to unemployment when a depression
ends, do you? you think it initially goes down

it does not. it goes up. but you're a right winger so are unable to
understand.


bpuharic May 9th 10 05:25 PM

For you tax wizards...
 
On Sun, 09 May 2010 09:25:03 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 09/05/2010 8:29 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 09 May 2010 08:20:11 -0600,
wrote:


Your problem is you have to get the facts right first. Obviously you can't.


your problem is the only fact you care about is the fact
unemployment's not at 25%. you have blinders on


Real unemplyment is closer to 25% than 3%. I don't like the government
adjusted numbers.


real unemployment under bush, then, was over 15%. and it's rocketed up
because of the bush depression.


Even I did a double take when big mouth bull****ing Obama said it was
better, unemplyment from 9.7 to 9.9. What is that fool think he is
doing? Has not Obama any integrity at all?


guess you think unemployment goes down when a depression ends.

it does not. in fact it's standard economics: when a depression ends
unemployment goes UP because more discouraged people re-enter the
workforce

but you're too stupid to understand that.


And it was supposed to be a hiring month...whew... no wonder the market
tanked on Thursday. Saw right through Obama/democrat bull****.


the economy created more jobs last month than any month in 4 years.

but, again, you're too stupid to see that.


BAR[_2_] May 9th 10 05:27 PM

For you tax wizards...
 
In article f060cbfb-af4f-4652-b9a2-62e9260df145
@d19g2000yqf.googlegroups.com, says...

On May 9, 8:25*am, Canuck57 wrote:
On 09/05/2010 8:29 AM, bpuharic wrote:



On Sun, 09 May 2010 08:20:11 -0600,
wrote:


On 09/05/2010 4:36 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 08 May 2010 21:36:42 -0600,
wrote:


And true. *That is why business are not starting up hiring,


guess he's too busy lying to notice business created 200,000 jobs last
month...the most in years..


But this story will be far over the heads of our liberal weasels. *They
do not have the cranial capacity to understand it.


biggest spenders in history: conservatives


Your problem is you have to get the facts right first. *Obviously you can't.


your problem is the only fact you care about is the fact
unemployment's not at 25%. you have blinders on


Real unemplyment is closer to 25% than 3%. *I don't like the government
adjusted numbers.

Even I did a double take when big mouth bull****ing Obama said it was
better, unemplyment from 9.7 to 9.9. *What is that fool think he is
doing? *Has not Obama any integrity at all?

And it was supposed to be a hiring month...whew... no wonder the market
tanked on Thursday. *Saw right through Obama/democrat bull****.

--
There is a sucker born every minute, liberals and our politicians are
counting on it.


Those of us who would normally be doing stuff that generates jobs are
now sitting back (and going to the bahamas) and shaking our heads at
the stupidity of those who complain about the lack of jobs. Why
should we take chances so they can then punish us for creating jobs?
No thanks, I'll figure out ways to do stuff without any more workers
or simply not do stuff that requires workers. Whoa, triple dip
recession due to Obamonomics stupidity. Obama does not care about
Americans, he has done nearly nothing and goes golfing while Nashville


Fairly competent resources are available off-shore for 1/4 to 1/3 the
cost of US resources without all of the bagage of hiring a US resource.
In fact you can hire 2 for 1 US worker and not still be ahead if the
productivity is only 50% each.

bpuharic May 9th 10 05:28 PM

For you tax wizards...
 
On Sun, 9 May 2010 09:19:00 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

On May 9, 8:25*am, Canuck57 wrote:
On 09/05/2010 8:29 AM, bpuharic wrote:


Real unemplyment is closer to 25% than 3%. *I don't like the government
adjusted numbers.

Even I did a double take when big mouth bull****ing Obama said it was
better, unemplyment from 9.7 to 9.9. *What is that fool think he is
doing? *Has not Obama any integrity at all?

And it was supposed to be a hiring month...whew... no wonder the market
tanked on Thursday. *Saw right through Obama/democrat bull****.

--
There is a sucker born every minute, liberals and our politicians are
counting on it.


Those of us who would normally be doing stuff that generates jobs are
now sitting back (and going to the bahamas) and shaking our heads at
the stupidity of those who complain about the lack of jobs. Why
should we take chances so they can then punish us for creating jobs?


guess he doesn't pay attention to the news. the economy created over
200K jobs last month...the most since 2006

but, no one ever accused the right of paying too much attention to
facts

No thanks, I'll figure out ways to do stuff without any more workers
or simply not do stuff that requires workers. Whoa, triple dip
recession due to Obamonomics stupidity. Obama does not care about
Americans, he has done nearly nothing a


not according to roubini. he sees a U shaped recession...we're out of
it and the economy is growing

but no one ever accused the right of paying too much attention to
facts

nd goes golfing while Nashville
floods under the greatest disaster TN has had since the Civil war.
Economic expansion is now taking place overseas


the US economy has been growing at 3.6% for the last 2 quarters...and
5.6 in the quarter preceding those

but no one ever accused the right of paying too much attention to
facts

and those of us who
want to do stuff are working with businesses over there, screw the
Demomorons.


gee. what's happened to the euro vs the dollar?

but no one's ever accused the right of paying too much attention to
facts


BAR[_2_] May 9th 10 05:31 PM

For you tax wizards...
 
In article ,
says...

Fairly competent resources are available off-shore for 1/4 to 1/3 the
cost of US resources without all of the bagage of hiring a US resource.
In fact you can hire 2 for 1 US worker and not still be ahead if the
productivity is only 50% each.


Correction "2 for 1 US worker and still be ahead"

Canuck57[_9_] May 9th 10 05:58 PM

For you tax wizards...
 
On 09/05/2010 10:19 AM, Frogwatch wrote:
On May 9, 8:25 am, wrote:
On 09/05/2010 8:29 AM, bpuharic wrote:



On Sun, 09 May 2010 08:20:11 -0600,
wrote:


On 09/05/2010 4:36 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 08 May 2010 21:36:42 -0600,
wrote:


And true. That is why business are not starting up hiring,


guess he's too busy lying to notice business created 200,000 jobs last
month...the most in years..


But this story will be far over the heads of our liberal weasels. They
do not have the cranial capacity to understand it.


biggest spenders in history: conservatives


Your problem is you have to get the facts right first. Obviously you can't.


your problem is the only fact you care about is the fact
unemployment's not at 25%. you have blinders on


Real unemplyment is closer to 25% than 3%. I don't like the government
adjusted numbers.

Even I did a double take when big mouth bull****ing Obama said it was
better, unemplyment from 9.7 to 9.9. What is that fool think he is
doing? Has not Obama any integrity at all?

And it was supposed to be a hiring month...whew... no wonder the market
tanked on Thursday. Saw right through Obama/democrat bull****.

--
There is a sucker born every minute, liberals and our politicians are
counting on it.


Those of us who would normally be doing stuff that generates jobs are
now sitting back (and going to the bahamas) and shaking our heads at
the stupidity of those who complain about the lack of jobs. Why
should we take chances so they can then punish us for creating jobs?
No thanks, I'll figure out ways to do stuff without any more workers
or simply not do stuff that requires workers. Whoa, triple dip
recession due to Obamonomics stupidity. Obama does not care about
Americans, he has done nearly nothing and goes golfing while Nashville
floods under the greatest disaster TN has had since the Civil war.
Economic expansion is now taking place overseas and those of us who
want to do stuff are working with businesses over there, screw the
Demomorons.


You got it.

But it isn't just Democriters, it is a social attitude of entitlement,
self pity and irrational loser mentality. The win-loose philosophy.
Really self destructive envy and greed.

I am 2 cents to packing it in and calling it a day with this economy.
Going home shopping in Costa Rica and Panama at some point, and if I
find a place we like, we will liquidate and move. Let the losers fund
their own nonsense until they smarten up.

And if they wake up, which isn't likely I can invest from abroad at a
lower tax rate.
--
There is a sucker born every minute, liberals and our politicians are
counting on it.

Jim May 9th 10 06:02 PM

For you tax wizards...
 
BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...
Fairly competent resources are available off-shore for 1/4 to 1/3 the
cost of US resources without all of the bagage of hiring a US resource.
In fact you can hire 2 for 1 US worker and not still be ahead if the
productivity is only 50% each.


Correction "2 for 1 US worker and still be ahead"


Plain stupid thinking.
Those working will have to support those not working.
Or get their throats cut. Is that what you mean by "a head?"
You sound like a commie. In America we want everybody working.
Your "foreigner first" attitude don't fly.

Jim - The end result of Libertarianism is Communism. The Libertarian
leadership become the apparatchiks. These closet commies ain't fooling
anybody. That's why they never get anywhere in America.
They don't have American values. They're commie faggots.
The GOP knows this. Even the queer Demoncrats know it.


Canuck57[_9_] May 9th 10 06:05 PM

For you tax wizards...
 
On 09/05/2010 10:27 AM, BAR wrote:
In articlef060cbfb-af4f-4652-b9a2-62e9260df145
@d19g2000yqf.googlegroups.com, says...

On May 9, 8:25 am, wrote:
On 09/05/2010 8:29 AM, bpuharic wrote:



On Sun, 09 May 2010 08:20:11 -0600,
wrote:

On 09/05/2010 4:36 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 08 May 2010 21:36:42 -0600,
wrote:

And true. That is why business are not starting up hiring,

guess he's too busy lying to notice business created 200,000 jobs last
month...the most in years..

But this story will be far over the heads of our liberal weasels. They
do not have the cranial capacity to understand it.

biggest spenders in history: conservatives

Your problem is you have to get the facts right first. Obviously you can't.

your problem is the only fact you care about is the fact
unemployment's not at 25%. you have blinders on

Real unemplyment is closer to 25% than 3%. I don't like the government
adjusted numbers.

Even I did a double take when big mouth bull****ing Obama said it was
better, unemplyment from 9.7 to 9.9. What is that fool think he is
doing? Has not Obama any integrity at all?

And it was supposed to be a hiring month...whew... no wonder the market
tanked on Thursday. Saw right through Obama/democrat bull****.

--
There is a sucker born every minute, liberals and our politicians are
counting on it.


Those of us who would normally be doing stuff that generates jobs are
now sitting back (and going to the bahamas) and shaking our heads at
the stupidity of those who complain about the lack of jobs. Why
should we take chances so they can then punish us for creating jobs?
No thanks, I'll figure out ways to do stuff without any more workers
or simply not do stuff that requires workers. Whoa, triple dip
recession due to Obamonomics stupidity. Obama does not care about
Americans, he has done nearly nothing and goes golfing while Nashville


Fairly competent resources are available off-shore for 1/4 to 1/3 the
cost of US resources without all of the bagage of hiring a US resource.
In fact you can hire 2 for 1 US worker and not still be ahead if the
productivity is only 50% each.


Sad but true. What is bad is some deserve the good wage, but with so
much dead wood...and the cost of removing it...

Easier just to go offshore. Or just park the money.
--
There is a sucker born every minute, liberals and our politicians are
counting on it.

Canuck57[_9_] May 9th 10 06:11 PM

For you tax wizards...
 
On 09/05/2010 11:02 AM, Jim wrote:
BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...
Fairly competent resources are available off-shore for 1/4 to 1/3 the
cost of US resources without all of the bagage of hiring a US
resource. In fact you can hire 2 for 1 US worker and not still be
ahead if the productivity is only 50% each.


Correction "2 for 1 US worker and still be ahead"


Plain stupid thinking.
Those working will have to support those not working.
Or get their throats cut. Is that what you mean by "a head?"
You sound like a commie. In America we want everybody working.
Your "foreigner first" attitude don't fly.


That is why it is a depression. Fewer people supporting the increasing
dead weight and more corruption too. A loose-loose situation. Why even
get involved? You would have to be nuts to open a new business in the
US/Canada that could be done offshore where win-win is possible.

Jim - The end result of Libertarianism is Communism. The Libertarian
leadership become the apparatchiks. These closet commies ain't fooling
anybody. That's why they never get anywhere in America.
They don't have American values. They're commie faggots.
The GOP knows this. Even the queer Demoncrats know it.


Huh? Libertarianism is about less government, less interferance, more
choices and opportunities for the people will to get off their asses,
state owns squat. How does that equate with communism?

--
There is a sucker born every minute, liberals and our politicians are
counting on it.

BAR[_2_] May 9th 10 06:11 PM

For you tax wizards...
 
In article , says...

BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...
Fairly competent resources are available off-shore for 1/4 to 1/3 the
cost of US resources without all of the bagage of hiring a US resource.
In fact you can hire 2 for 1 US worker and not still be ahead if the
productivity is only 50% each.


Correction "2 for 1 US worker and still be ahead"


Plain stupid thinking.
Those working will have to support those not working.
Or get their throats cut. Is that what you mean by "a head?"
You sound like a commie. In America we want everybody working.
Your "foreigner first" attitude don't fly.


It is called business. And, the decisions are made to keep the stock
price of US based corporations rising to make them attractive to the
large institutional investors (i.e. pension funds).

If I am lucky enough to get 75% out of the two off-shore resources for
2/3'rds the cost of a single on-shore resource then I am way ahead of
the game. By duty is to the share holders, not the government.

If I had the ability to abolish entitlements at the federal level I
would do it tomorrow. There is no reason that the federal government
should be passing out social security checks, paying for medical
benefits or other entitlements. The only thing you are entitled to do in
life is to die, everything else is optional.

Jim - The end result of Libertarianism is Communism. The Libertarian
leadership become the apparatchiks. These closet commies ain't fooling
anybody. That's why they never get anywhere in America.
They don't have American values. They're commie faggots.
The GOP knows this. Even the queer Demoncrats know it.


Libertarians arguments fall apart as soon as they step off of their
property.



Canuck57[_9_] May 9th 10 06:29 PM

For you tax wizards...
 
On 09/05/2010 10:28 AM, bpuharic wrote:

guess he doesn't pay attention to the news. the economy created over
200K jobs last month...the most since 2006


So Obama looses even more jobs than were created, and those created were
low wage jobs often without benefits. LMAO, I can't believe you are
this stupid, but don't doubt it.

Lets look at the data:

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm

Unemployment went from 9.7 to 9.9. Funny how even the adjusted BS
number goes up and you and Obama imply it went down.

Second issue is Obama didn't create any jobs, businesses did. Probalby
with EI run out, get them back cheap.

I see those unemployed for more than 27 weeks is at a new all time high.
No good news there.

I see 195,000 re-enter the work force, guess more couples are working
more jobs to make up for lower wages. Not good.

2.1 to 2.4 million part timers, hell, those jobs are not enough to live
on. Must be with new lower paying jobs, they need the second part time
job to make ends meet and it squeezes up the student unemployment to
25.5%. No good news here.

Pretty small gains in manufacturing. Almost not worth a mention. Not
really good news here as at this time of year it should be much better.

Only 14,000 for construction? Whippy do. At that rate it will take 40
years to compensate for what happened last year at this time. I might
not live that long.

A grain of small news, 66,000 hired by the government part time. Charge
it to future debt will ya.

Drilling in a bit I see full time worker unemployment has increased at a
time I would expect it to decrease.

No wonder the market went nuts on Thursday. I would pay big bucks to
see this a few hours earlier...as I am sure some did. Computer glitch
my ass....

Obamanomics is a dismal failure of giagantic proportions.

100% democratic liberal loser mentality f--kup. You should want to fire
them all. If they worked for me, they would be so fired as what they
cot they should be able to do better.

--
There is a sucker born every minute, liberals and our politicians are
counting on it.

bpuharic May 9th 10 07:28 PM

For you tax wizards...
 
On Sun, 09 May 2010 10:51:45 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 09/05/2010 10:23 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 09 May 2010 09:17:07 -0600,
wrote:

On 09/05/2010 8:29 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 09 May 2010 08:20:11 -0600,
wrote:


your problem is the only fact you care about is the fact
unemployment's not at 25%. you have blinders on

Actually, i would like unemployment to be 3%


except, of course, the economic policies you push would drive
unemployment to 25%.


Mine have never been tried, the closest would be Reaganomics


sure they were tried. in 29 they let the banks fail, as you desire. it
drove unemployment to 25%

.. It would
differ in that I would downsize 1/3rd of the governemnt to match as not
to increase debt by too much.


govt represents 20% of GDP. cutting 1/3 of that would drop the GDP by
7%....which is about the amount of GDP drop that led to the current
depression

so you're saying you'd cause a depression to cure a depression?

yep. that sounds very right wing.


I would stop the Afganistan/Iraq issue ASAP


that's because you're a coward. the iraq war is useless. but you're a
coward and think only of money so dont even appreciate the heroic
sacrifice CANADIANS are making against fascist imperialist aggression
in afghanistan


In 2 years, the USA will become the hottest growing economy going.


really? when the GDP drops 7%...like it just did...that led to a
depression

what we need are tax cuts for the middle class. that's something not a
single right winger has proposed

we need a tax increase on the wealthy...another thing the right
opposes

Instead of wasting trillions on GM, banks and losers, I would put some
towards nuclear power plants employing people across the nation equally
and have something to show for it. And it would cost a fraction fo the
bailoouts.


why? oil represents 8% of power generation. and building nukes would
take 20 years.


You wouldn't see me shooting off my mouth too much, as I would be a man
of action and not big mouth bull****. I would gve your results and not
gums a flapping.


what i notice is that you ignore the problem. we need to regulate wall
street. you ignore wall street because of the rich. we need to
regulate financial instruments. you ignore them

you ignore the problem...the real problem. the fact is, until wall
street greed caused the economic collapse, govt spending was not a
huge problem.

the real problem is the collapse in middel class spending caused by
the rich stealing the wealth of the middle class

you whine, bitch and moan about the darkie in the white house. you
blame main street for the collapse

your whole philosophy is right wing...which is why it's a failure


Saddly some misguided ones are. But I am a conservative-libertarian.
And I believe in peoples rights to seek out prosperity. If they get off
their asses, it is up to them. A president first and formost needs to
preserve what made America great. And that isn't jive talk bull**** we
get today.


more right wing bull****. the problem is NOT a lazy middle class.
americans already work more than any other people on earth in
industrialized countries

you right whiners want us to be slaves


Obamanomics is a bust, an utter failure


you mean because the economy is growing? strange definition of failure
you have. guess you forgot that bush spent us into a depression and
spent a trillion on a useless war


Proof it isn't inflation? Funny, I see no jobs, increasing taxes and
stagnent wages. Some types of bankruptcies are at an all time high.


you see no jobs?

guess you dont follow the news. for the first time since 2006 the
economy added jobs.

and stagnant wages?? IT'S BEEN THAT WAY FOR 10 YEARS! a whole DECADE
when the middle class had NO increase in wages while the richest 1%
had a THREE HUNDRED PERCENT INCREASE in income.

yet you say NOTHING about that.

you right whiners...you focus on the bull****, penalize the middle
class, insulate the rich from their mistakes THEN BITCH BITCH BITCH
about the LAZY MIDDLE CLASS

all you do is BITCH BITCH BITCH


. Sad joke on Americans. DC
corruption gone mad. Obama has almost already spent about what Reagan
and Bush spent in 16 years but did it in 2!


guess you don't know what happens during a depression, do you?
figures. right whiners value ideology over facts


I have read all about 1929 to 1939. That is why I know it isn't going
to end soon. Statism and liberal selfish *******s need to learn the
basic leasons first. And only now are some waking up to smell, better
get the government in fiscal order or Greece will infect NY.


like i said. you have NO idea what happens during a depression

hey idiot...do me a favor

tell me when in the last 80 years the govt ran a surplus during a
depression, OK

otherwise just stop pumping out the fairy tale right wing bull****


Huh? Do you subscribe to bull**** economics?

Employment always gets better in 30-60 days. Maybe 4 months if it is
like Intel still selling chips out of production for 8 months, but it is
rare. Employment is real recovery.


really?

it takes a full YEAR of economic growth at 5% to reduce unemployment
by 1%

but you're so full of right wing bull**** you think rush limball is a
hero



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