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"Decent lives of positive value" - pure cracker gibberish (attn:Rob Epstein)
Goo - ****wit David Harrison - is always blabbering about this. The
phrase, of course, is complete nonsense, and is code for Goo's real agenda, which is to demand that everyone want livestock animals to exist in order for Goo to eat them. But even when he attempts to defend his literal wording, Goo comically ties himself in knots and contradicts himself. A thoughtful poster named Robert, who does not appear to me to be an animal "rights" advocate but who is deeply troubled by what he perceives to be wretched welfare for many types of livestock animals during at least some part of their lives, has suggested to Goo - that's ****wit David Harrison - that "quality" of life, rather than "value", is a better, more meaningful criterion. Goo, of course, in his typical uneducated cracker pig-headedness, rejects it. He insists that "value" takes more than "quality" into account. When questioned, however, Goo - ****wit David Harrison - cannot give a coherent account of what else there is besides quality of life; all we get is the usual ignorant cracker bull****. So, once again, we have Goo claiming that he, alone, can see some "important aspect of the situation" that no one else can see. Goo - ****wit David Harrison - always ascribes this to (haw haw haw) "mental limitations" on the part of anyone who doesn't see what Goo claims he can quite clearly see. This, from an admitted high school drop-out and goof whose adult employment has consisted of being a roadie for a bunch of bands no one knows, as well as a general purpose gofer in a microbrewery. No, I don't think anyone believes that Goo - ****wit David Harrison - has any unique insight into the correct way to determine the "value" of an animal's life to the animal itself. In fact, when Goo talks about "decent lives", he is himself placing emphasis on quality of life - a decent life is inherently one of good quality. So, Goo is contradicting himself with his own ****ty phrase if he's going to pretend that quality doesn't matter, or that there's some other dimension that relegates quality to only secondary consideration. The larger problem with this vomit phrase, of course, is that no matter what else Goo - ****wit David Harrison - thinks "ought" to go into the determination of "positive value", he is talking about the value to the animal itself, and Goo has no way of knowing what that is. Once again, Goo - ****wit David Harrison - falls back on a hilarious claim that he has some special insight that allows him to perceive what seemingly no one else in the world can see. No one buys that; it's total horse****. Even bigger than that is that Goo - ****wit David Harrison - is lying when he claims to be "considering" the animals lives on behalf of the animals themselves. He is not. His *only* consideration in this entire issue is that the animals exist, so that he can consume them. Goo doesn't care about the quality of their lives, or scoff the "value" of their lives to the animals; he just wants them to exist, so he can eat them. The bull**** about "consideration" for the animals' lives is a shabby, long-dispelled smokescreen intended to hide Goo's only real consideration, which is his self-interest. There's nothing wrong with self-interest, but trying to pass it off as sincere consideration for the interest of others is hypocritical bull****. Everyone can see that that's what Goo - ****wit David Harrison - is doing. For those who didn't already know, Goo has been deeply involved in the past in breeding fighting cocks and dogs, and in the staging of the combats. Goo has justified this on the ground that the animals would not otherwise exist, and that because they "get to experience life", it somehow justifies the contrived combats that always end in the death of one of the birds, and that always end in no less than the maiming of one of the dogs, and sometimes the dog's death. Goo - ****wit David Harrison - lamely tries to justify it additionally by saying fighting is what these animals want to do, but the fact these particular fights occur only because humans stage them completely queers that already specious argument. The point is, no one - *no* one - is going to accept lectures on "decent lives of positive value" from a dirty ****bag who breeds fighting cocks and fighting dogs. |
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