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Crist has small lead over Rubio...
....in the latest Rasmussen survey of Florida voter preferences for the
general election, 38% to 34%. Rubio, of course, has the Republican primary locked. The Democrat in the general election race hasn't the name recognition yet of Rubio or Crist. Could be the most interesting general election in the country this fall, with Rubio getting the hard-right mindless conservative voters, Crist pulling moderate Republicans and some Indys and Dems, and maybe winning, or spoiling Rubio's chances, giving the Dem the edge. I don't have a horse in the Florida U.S. Senate race, but if Crist or the Dem beat Rubio, it'll be a slam on the mindless right, and *that* can only be good for America. -- The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name. |
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"hk" wrote in message
... ...in the latest Rasmussen survey of Florida voter preferences for the general election, 38% to 34%. Rubio, of course, has the Republican primary locked. The Democrat in the general election race hasn't the name recognition yet of Rubio or Crist. Could be the most interesting general election in the country this fall, with Rubio getting the hard-right mindless conservative voters, Crist pulling moderate Republicans and some Indys and Dems, and maybe winning, or spoiling Rubio's chances, giving the Dem the edge. I don't have a horse in the Florida U.S. Senate race, but if Crist or the Dem beat Rubio, it'll be a slam on the mindless right, and *that* can only be good for America. -- The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name. Crist is at least somewhat centrist. |
Crist has small lead over Rubio...
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... On Tue, 04 May 2010 18:01:07 -0400, hk wrote: ...in the latest Rasmussen survey of Florida voter preferences for the general election, 38% to 34%. Rubio, of course, has the Republican primary locked. The Democrat in the general election race hasn't the name recognition yet of Rubio or Crist. Could be the most interesting general election in the country this fall, with Rubio getting the hard-right mindless conservative voters, Crist pulling moderate Republicans and some Indys and Dems, and maybe winning, or spoiling Rubio's chances, giving the Dem the edge. I don't have a horse in the Florida U.S. Senate race, but if Crist or the Dem beat Rubio, it'll be a slam on the mindless right, and *that* can only be good for America. Most Floridians haven't really figured out Meek is a black guy so I am not sure the polls are really all that accurate. I do expect this to get nasty. Don't be surprised if the recurring rumor that Crist is gay pops up. Do you think Meet's race would be an issue? Obama won Florida and he was born in Keny.. oh never mind. |
Crist has small lead over Rubio...
On 5/4/10 8:24 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message ... ...in the latest Rasmussen survey of Florida voter preferences for the general election, 38% to 34%. Rubio, of course, has the Republican primary locked. The Democrat in the general election race hasn't the name recognition yet of Rubio or Crist. Could be the most interesting general election in the country this fall, with Rubio getting the hard-right mindless conservative voters, Crist pulling moderate Republicans and some Indys and Dems, and maybe winning, or spoiling Rubio's chances, giving the Dem the edge. I don't have a horse in the Florida U.S. Senate race, but if Crist or the Dem beat Rubio, it'll be a slam on the mindless right, and *that* can only be good for America. -- The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name. Crist is at least somewhat centrist. Certainly more than Rubio. I'm no fan of Crist, but I'd rather see hijm in the Senate than Rubio, a goose-stepping conservative. -- The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name. |
Crist has small lead over Rubio...
On 5/4/10 8:25 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message ... On Tue, 04 May 2010 18:01:07 -0400, wrote: ...in the latest Rasmussen survey of Florida voter preferences for the general election, 38% to 34%. Rubio, of course, has the Republican primary locked. The Democrat in the general election race hasn't the name recognition yet of Rubio or Crist. Could be the most interesting general election in the country this fall, with Rubio getting the hard-right mindless conservative voters, Crist pulling moderate Republicans and some Indys and Dems, and maybe winning, or spoiling Rubio's chances, giving the Dem the edge. I don't have a horse in the Florida U.S. Senate race, but if Crist or the Dem beat Rubio, it'll be a slam on the mindless right, and *that* can only be good for America. Most Floridians haven't really figured out Meek is a black guy so I am not sure the polls are really all that accurate. I do expect this to get nasty. Don't be surprised if the recurring rumor that Crist is gay pops up. Do you think Meet's race would be an issue? Obama won Florida and he was born in Keny.. oh never mind. :) -- The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name. |
Crist has small lead over Rubio...
On 04/05/2010 6:07 PM, hk wrote:
On 5/4/10 6:32 PM, wrote: On Tue, 04 May 2010 18:01:07 -0400, wrote: ...in the latest Rasmussen survey of Florida voter preferences for the general election, 38% to 34%. Rubio, of course, has the Republican primary locked. The Democrat in the general election race hasn't the name recognition yet of Rubio or Crist. Could be the most interesting general election in the country this fall, with Rubio getting the hard-right mindless conservative voters, Crist pulling moderate Republicans and some Indys and Dems, and maybe winning, or spoiling Rubio's chances, giving the Dem the edge. I don't have a horse in the Florida U.S. Senate race, but if Crist or the Dem beat Rubio, it'll be a slam on the mindless right, and *that* can only be good for America. Most Floridians haven't really figured out Meek is a black guy so I am not sure the polls are really all that accurate. I do expect this to get nasty. Don't be surprised if the recurring rumor that Crist is gay pops up. Gay is certainly higher up on the evolutionary scale than conservative republican. Only because you are a liberal faggot that knows all about teabagging other guess. Personally, I like my ta bagger to be feminine and cute, and trustworthy. -- Are we being heard or are we a herd? |
Crist has small lead over Rubio...
On 5/4/10 9:46 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 04/05/2010 6:07 PM, hk wrote: On 5/4/10 6:32 PM, wrote: On Tue, 04 May 2010 18:01:07 -0400, wrote: ...in the latest Rasmussen survey of Florida voter preferences for the general election, 38% to 34%. Rubio, of course, has the Republican primary locked. The Democrat in the general election race hasn't the name recognition yet of Rubio or Crist. Could be the most interesting general election in the country this fall, with Rubio getting the hard-right mindless conservative voters, Crist pulling moderate Republicans and some Indys and Dems, and maybe winning, or spoiling Rubio's chances, giving the Dem the edge. I don't have a horse in the Florida U.S. Senate race, but if Crist or the Dem beat Rubio, it'll be a slam on the mindless right, and *that* can only be good for America. Most Floridians haven't really figured out Meek is a black guy so I am not sure the polls are really all that accurate. I do expect this to get nasty. Don't be surprised if the recurring rumor that Crist is gay pops up. Gay is certainly higher up on the evolutionary scale than conservative republican. Only because you are a liberal faggot that knows all about teabagging other guess. Personally, I like my ta bagger to be feminine and cute, and trustworthy. There's just no reason to take you or your posts here seriously. -- The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name. |
Crist has small lead over Rubio...
On 04/05/2010 7:48 PM, hk wrote:
On 5/4/10 9:46 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 04/05/2010 6:07 PM, hk wrote: On 5/4/10 6:32 PM, wrote: On Tue, 04 May 2010 18:01:07 -0400, wrote: ...in the latest Rasmussen survey of Florida voter preferences for the general election, 38% to 34%. Rubio, of course, has the Republican primary locked. The Democrat in the general election race hasn't the name recognition yet of Rubio or Crist. Could be the most interesting general election in the country this fall, with Rubio getting the hard-right mindless conservative voters, Crist pulling moderate Republicans and some Indys and Dems, and maybe winning, or spoiling Rubio's chances, giving the Dem the edge. I don't have a horse in the Florida U.S. Senate race, but if Crist or the Dem beat Rubio, it'll be a slam on the mindless right, and *that* can only be good for America. Most Floridians haven't really figured out Meek is a black guy so I am not sure the polls are really all that accurate. I do expect this to get nasty. Don't be surprised if the recurring rumor that Crist is gay pops up. Gay is certainly higher up on the evolutionary scale than conservative republican. Only because you are a liberal faggot that knows all about teabagging other guess. Personally, I like my ta bagger to be feminine and cute, and trustworthy. There's just no reason to take you or your posts here seriously. Never expected you too. You are a liberal after all. -- Are we being heard or are we a herd? |
Crist has small lead over Rubio...
"hk" wrote in message
m... On 5/4/10 8:24 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: wrote in message ... ...in the latest Rasmussen survey of Florida voter preferences for the general election, 38% to 34%. Rubio, of course, has the Republican primary locked. The Democrat in the general election race hasn't the name recognition yet of Rubio or Crist. Could be the most interesting general election in the country this fall, with Rubio getting the hard-right mindless conservative voters, Crist pulling moderate Republicans and some Indys and Dems, and maybe winning, or spoiling Rubio's chances, giving the Dem the edge. I don't have a horse in the Florida U.S. Senate race, but if Crist or the Dem beat Rubio, it'll be a slam on the mindless right, and *that* can only be good for America. -- The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name. Crist is at least somewhat centrist. Certainly more than Rubio. I'm no fan of Crist, but I'd rather see hijm in the Senate than Rubio, a goose-stepping conservative. -- The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name. Interestingly, even Rubio is not in favor of the Arizona bs. |
Crist has small lead over Rubio...
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... On Tue, 4 May 2010 21:17:39 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "hk" wrote in message news:m5mdneGyDqzlVX3WnZ2dnUVZ_qKdnZ2d@earthlink. com... On 5/4/10 8:24 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: wrote in message ... ...in the latest Rasmussen survey of Florida voter preferences for the general election, 38% to 34%. Rubio, of course, has the Republican primary locked. The Democrat in the general election race hasn't the name recognition yet of Rubio or Crist. Could be the most interesting general election in the country this fall, with Rubio getting the hard-right mindless conservative voters, Crist pulling moderate Republicans and some Indys and Dems, and maybe winning, or spoiling Rubio's chances, giving the Dem the edge. I don't have a horse in the Florida U.S. Senate race, but if Crist or the Dem beat Rubio, it'll be a slam on the mindless right, and *that* can only be good for America. -- The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name. Crist is at least somewhat centrist. Certainly more than Rubio. I'm no fan of Crist, but I'd rather see hijm in the Senate than Rubio, a goose-stepping conservative. -- The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name. Interestingly, even Rubio is not in favor of the Arizona bs. Rubio is trying to regain the support of the latino community that used to be solidly in the GOP corner. They are generally right in lock step with the righteous right. Abortion is murder, Jesus is lord and women should be home cooking dinner right after they finish their hotel maid job. Correction: Women should not be working. :) |
Crist has small lead over Rubio...
On Wed, 05 May 2010 00:35:19 -0400, gfretwell wrote:
Rubio is trying to regain the support of the latino community that used to be solidly in the GOP corner. They are generally right in lock step with the righteous right. Abortion is murder, Jesus is lord and women should be home cooking dinner right after they finish their hotel maid job. It's a bit generational. While older Cubans are still fighting the Revolution, younger Cubans are not nearly as conservative. |
Crist has small lead over Rubio...
On 5/5/10 6:12 AM, thunder wrote:
On Wed, 05 May 2010 00:35:19 -0400, gfretwell wrote: Rubio is trying to regain the support of the latino community that used to be solidly in the GOP corner. They are generally right in lock step with the righteous right. Abortion is murder, Jesus is lord and women should be home cooking dinner right after they finish their hotel maid job. It's a bit generational. While older Cubans are still fighting the Revolution, younger Cubans are not nearly as conservative. Once the Castros die, the opposition among older Cuban Americans to allow normal relations with Cuba will crumble. -- The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name. |
Crist has small lead over Rubio...
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says... On 5/4/10 6:32 PM, wrote: On Tue, 04 May 2010 18:01:07 -0400, wrote: ...in the latest Rasmussen survey of Florida voter preferences for the general election, 38% to 34%. Rubio, of course, has the Republican primary locked. The Democrat in the general election race hasn't the name recognition yet of Rubio or Crist. Could be the most interesting general election in the country this fall, with Rubio getting the hard-right mindless conservative voters, Crist pulling moderate Republicans and some Indys and Dems, and maybe winning, or spoiling Rubio's chances, giving the Dem the edge. I don't have a horse in the Florida U.S. Senate race, but if Crist or the Dem beat Rubio, it'll be a slam on the mindless right, and *that* can only be good for America. Most Floridians haven't really figured out Meek is a black guy so I am not sure the polls are really all that accurate. I do expect this to get nasty. Don't be surprised if the recurring rumor that Crist is gay pops up. Gay is certainly higher up on the evolutionary scale than conservative republican. We will have to leave this to you Harry the expert in gayness. |
Crist has small lead over Rubio...
On 5/5/10 7:48 AM, BAR wrote:
In articleJfSdnQEGn4x9K33WnZ2dnUVZ_v0AAAAA@earthlink .com, says... On 5/4/10 6:32 PM, wrote: On Tue, 04 May 2010 18:01:07 -0400, wrote: ...in the latest Rasmussen survey of Florida voter preferences for the general election, 38% to 34%. Rubio, of course, has the Republican primary locked. The Democrat in the general election race hasn't the name recognition yet of Rubio or Crist. Could be the most interesting general election in the country this fall, with Rubio getting the hard-right mindless conservative voters, Crist pulling moderate Republicans and some Indys and Dems, and maybe winning, or spoiling Rubio's chances, giving the Dem the edge. I don't have a horse in the Florida U.S. Senate race, but if Crist or the Dem beat Rubio, it'll be a slam on the mindless right, and *that* can only be good for America. Most Floridians haven't really figured out Meek is a black guy so I am not sure the polls are really all that accurate. I do expect this to get nasty. Don't be surprised if the recurring rumor that Crist is gay pops up. Gay is certainly higher up on the evolutionary scale than conservative republican. We will have to leave this to you Harry the expert in gayness. I have gay friends and most of my clients have gays working for them. The gays I know seem a lot nicer, friendlier, smarter, and more educated, and generally, seem to be just better people than the right-wing trash (you know, you, flajim, tosk, canuck, frogwatch, et cetera) one encounters here. -- The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name. |
Crist has small lead over Rubio...
On 5/4/2010 10:46 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 04/05/2010 7:48 PM, hk wrote: On 5/4/10 9:46 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 04/05/2010 6:07 PM, hk wrote: Gay is certainly higher up on the evolutionary scale than conservative republican. Only because you are a liberal faggot that knows all about teabagging other guess. Personally, I like my ta bagger to be feminine and cute, and trustworthy. There's just no reason to take you or your posts here seriously. Never expected you too. You are a liberal after all. A gay liberal at that. Crist, Frank, Madow Etc. All admired and desired by Krowse. |
Crist has small lead over Rubio...
On 5/5/10 9:08 AM, bob wrote:
On 5/4/2010 10:46 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 04/05/2010 7:48 PM, hk wrote: On 5/4/10 9:46 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 04/05/2010 6:07 PM, hk wrote: Gay is certainly higher up on the evolutionary scale than conservative republican. Only because you are a liberal faggot that knows all about teabagging other guess. Personally, I like my ta bagger to be feminine and cute, and trustworthy. There's just no reason to take you or your posts here seriously. Never expected you too. You are a liberal after all. A gay liberal at that. Crist, Frank, Madow Etc. All admired and desired by Krowse. One has to wonder why right-wing assholes are so nervous about gays. Is it because so many of their number *are* gay? Are they insecure about their own sexuality? I don't know much about Crist. For a Republican, he seems almost reasonable. He's certainly smart. I do admire Barney Frank and Rachel Maddow. Both of them are very smart and very capable, which puts them on the pole opposite of most of the righties who post here. Let's be real here, Bob...you've never given any evidence you are brighter than a shoelace. I'd like to meet Crist, Frank, and Maddow socially. I like bright people. Their sexual persuasion is no concern of mine. -- The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name. |
Crist has small lead over Rubio...
"BAR" wrote in message . .. In article , says... ...in the latest Rasmussen survey of Florida voter preferences for the general election, 38% to 34%. Rubio, of course, has the Republican primary locked. The Democrat in the general election race hasn't the name recognition yet of Rubio or Crist. Could be the most interesting general election in the country this fall, with Rubio getting the hard-right mindless conservative voters, Crist pulling moderate Republicans and some Indys and Dems, and maybe winning, or spoiling Rubio's chances, giving the Dem the edge. I don't have a horse in the Florida U.S. Senate race, but if Crist or the Dem beat Rubio, it'll be a slam on the mindless right, and *that* can only be good for America. Crist is a dead man walking. The Dems could care less about him and the Reps are sharpening their knives. Rubio is a crook but that's alright with the Reps. As long as he stays Rep. |
Crist has small lead over Rubio...
"anon-e-moose" wrote in message ... On 5/4/2010 6:54 PM, BAR wrote: In , says... On Tue, 04 May 2010 18:01:07 -0400, wrote: ...in the latest Rasmussen survey of Florida voter preferences for the general election, 38% to 34%. Rubio, of course, has the Republican primary locked. The Democrat in the general election race hasn't the name recognition yet of Rubio or Crist. Could be the most interesting general election in the country this fall, with Rubio getting the hard-right mindless conservative voters, Crist pulling moderate Republicans and some Indys and Dems, and maybe winning, or spoiling Rubio's chances, giving the Dem the edge. I don't have a horse in the Florida U.S. Senate race, but if Crist or the Dem beat Rubio, it'll be a slam on the mindless right, and *that* can only be good for America. Most Floridians haven't really figured out Meek is a black guy so I am not sure the polls are really all that accurate. I do expect this to get nasty. Don't be surprised if the recurring rumor that Crist is gay pops up. What about Crist's Nixon problem, sweating like a pig. How does a guy get elected to state wide office in Florida when he sweats like his in a downpour? Christ is a lousy governor. He'd fit right in in the Senate though. Too bad Jeb isn't running. I wouldn't want Christ for a governor. He'd have all these "walking on water zones" that we'd have to keep our boats out of. Crist is no worse than Jeb and with vetoing the merit pay/education thing he's shown that he knows more about education than Jeb. |
Crist has small lead over Rubio...
wrote in message ... On Tue, 4 May 2010 17:25:54 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message . .. On Tue, 04 May 2010 18:01:07 -0400, hk wrote: ...in the latest Rasmussen survey of Florida voter preferences for the general election, 38% to 34%. Rubio, of course, has the Republican primary locked. The Democrat in the general election race hasn't the name recognition yet of Rubio or Crist. Could be the most interesting general election in the country this fall, with Rubio getting the hard-right mindless conservative voters, Crist pulling moderate Republicans and some Indys and Dems, and maybe winning, or spoiling Rubio's chances, giving the Dem the edge. I don't have a horse in the Florida U.S. Senate race, but if Crist or the Dem beat Rubio, it'll be a slam on the mindless right, and *that* can only be good for America. Most Floridians haven't really figured out Meek is a black guy so I am not sure the polls are really all that accurate. I do expect this to get nasty. Don't be surprised if the recurring rumor that Crist is gay pops up. Do you think Meet's race would be an issue? Obama won Florida and he was born in Keny.. oh never mind. Obama might not win if the election was held today. Rubio is Cuban and will carry a lot of the same counties Obama carried. There are also a lot of people who wanted SB6 that Crist originally supported, then vetoed. That was the one that made teacher pay coincide with teacher performance and limited tenure. There are a lot of parents here who are ****ed that the school board spends $17,661 per student ($1.4B/80400 students) and our graduation rate is 53%. They think something is dreadfully wrong with the school system. This thing is like FCAT where the better off schools, with parents at home to help the kids and make sure they did thier home work got better scores and funding was tied to those scores. It was probably just typical pie in the sky optmism and no conspiracy but the way it worked out is it benefited the affluent and screwed the poorer schools and kids. I think the merit pay tied to student grades would end up driving good people away that happen to be working in schools that don't score well and never havea hope of making better than the crap pay that they start with. What professional would stick around if the only chance for a pay raise was based on the performance of others that had no concern for better performance on thier own part? It all sounds good in theory but sucks in practice. There are also plenty of people who think all that stimulus money, that Crist hugged Obama for, seemed to pass them by. If Crist loses Miami Dade and Broward, I doubt he can win because the red counties will go for Rubio. Meek may get a significant amount of the Jacksonville vote and he will probably carry his predominately black (51%) West Miami Broward district but he has really run unopposed there so we don't really know how he would do with some actual competition. He only had about 13% of the electorate turn out last time. In the end, I see Rubio and Crist splitting about 75-80% of the vote. I don't have a good prediction yet, November is a long way away but if I was really pressed my money would be on Rubio if the election was held today. I looked up the history of parties in this country and since George Washington (an independat) we always been a 2 party system. No wonder it's so hard to pull our collective heads out!!! |
Crist has small lead over Rubio...
On 5/5/2010 9:50 AM, hk wrote:
On 5/5/10 9:08 AM, bob wrote: On 5/4/2010 10:46 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 04/05/2010 7:48 PM, hk wrote: On 5/4/10 9:46 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 04/05/2010 6:07 PM, hk wrote: Gay is certainly higher up on the evolutionary scale than conservative republican. Only because you are a liberal faggot that knows all about teabagging other guess. Personally, I like my ta bagger to be feminine and cute, and trustworthy. There's just no reason to take you or your posts here seriously. Never expected you too. You are a liberal after all. A gay liberal at that. Crist, Frank, Madow Etc. All admired and desired by Krowse. One has to wonder why right-wing assholes are so nervous about gays. Is it because so many of their number *are* gay? Are they insecure about their own sexuality? I don't know much about Crist. For a Republican, he seems almost reasonable. He's certainly smart. I do admire Barney Frank and Rachel Maddow. Both of them are very smart and very capable, which puts them on the pole opposite of most of the righties who post here. Let's be real here, Bob...you've never given any evidence you are brighter than a shoelace. I'd like to meet Crist, Frank, and Maddow socially. I like bright people. Their sexual persuasion is no concern of mine. Ever wonder where Harry got the name naled at mypacks for an email address. Wonder no more. look up naled in google groups or simply follow this link http://groups.google.com/groups/dir?...ch+for+a+group |
Crist has small lead over Rubio...
"BAR" wrote in message
. .. In article , says... On 5/4/10 6:32 PM, wrote: On Tue, 04 May 2010 18:01:07 -0400, wrote: ...in the latest Rasmussen survey of Florida voter preferences for the general election, 38% to 34%. Rubio, of course, has the Republican primary locked. The Democrat in the general election race hasn't the name recognition yet of Rubio or Crist. Could be the most interesting general election in the country this fall, with Rubio getting the hard-right mindless conservative voters, Crist pulling moderate Republicans and some Indys and Dems, and maybe winning, or spoiling Rubio's chances, giving the Dem the edge. I don't have a horse in the Florida U.S. Senate race, but if Crist or the Dem beat Rubio, it'll be a slam on the mindless right, and *that* can only be good for America. Most Floridians haven't really figured out Meek is a black guy so I am not sure the polls are really all that accurate. I do expect this to get nasty. Don't be surprised if the recurring rumor that Crist is gay pops up. Gay is certainly higher up on the evolutionary scale than conservative republican. We will have to leave this to you Harry the expert in gayness. You and the other rightwing nuts are sure afraid of gays. |
Crist has small lead over Rubio...
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Crist has small lead over Rubio...
On 5/5/2010 1:58 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
Gay is certainly higher up on the evolutionary scale than conservative republican. We will have to leave this to you Harry the expert in gayness. You and the other rightwing nuts are sure afraid of gays. This is really shocking news. Is that why you keep saying we're afraid of you? |
Crist has small lead over Rubio...
On Wed, 05 May 2010 12:43:46 -0400, William wrote:
On 5/5/2010 9:50 AM, hk wrote: On 5/5/10 9:08 AM, bob wrote: On 5/4/2010 10:46 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 04/05/2010 7:48 PM, hk wrote: On 5/4/10 9:46 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 04/05/2010 6:07 PM, hk wrote: Gay is certainly higher up on the evolutionary scale than conservative republican. Only because you are a liberal faggot that knows all about teabagging other guess. Personally, I like my ta bagger to be feminine and cute, and trustworthy. There's just no reason to take you or your posts here seriously. Never expected you too. You are a liberal after all. A gay liberal at that. Crist, Frank, Madow Etc. All admired and desired by Krowse. One has to wonder why right-wing assholes are so nervous about gays. Is it because so many of their number *are* gay? Are they insecure about their own sexuality? I don't know much about Crist. For a Republican, he seems almost reasonable. He's certainly smart. I do admire Barney Frank and Rachel Maddow. Both of them are very smart and very capable, which puts them on the pole opposite of most of the righties who post here. Let's be real here, Bob...you've never given any evidence you are brighter than a shoelace. I'd like to meet Crist, Frank, and Maddow socially. I like bright people. Their sexual persuasion is no concern of mine. Ever wonder where Harry got the name naled at mypacks for an email address. Wonder no more. look up naled in google groups or simply follow this link http://groups.google.com/groups/dir?...ch+for+a+group William? I don't think so. |
Crist has small lead over Rubio...
On 5/5/10 2:32 PM, jps wrote:
On Wed, 05 May 2010 12:43:46 -0400, wrote: On 5/5/2010 9:50 AM, hk wrote: On 5/5/10 9:08 AM, bob wrote: On 5/4/2010 10:46 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 04/05/2010 7:48 PM, hk wrote: On 5/4/10 9:46 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 04/05/2010 6:07 PM, hk wrote: Gay is certainly higher up on the evolutionary scale than conservative republican. Only because you are a liberal faggot that knows all about teabagging other guess. Personally, I like my ta bagger to be feminine and cute, and trustworthy. There's just no reason to take you or your posts here seriously. Never expected you too. You are a liberal after all. A gay liberal at that. Crist, Frank, Madow Etc. All admired and desired by Krowse. One has to wonder why right-wing assholes are so nervous about gays. Is it because so many of their number *are* gay? Are they insecure about their own sexuality? I don't know much about Crist. For a Republican, he seems almost reasonable. He's certainly smart. I do admire Barney Frank and Rachel Maddow. Both of them are very smart and very capable, which puts them on the pole opposite of most of the righties who post here. Let's be real here, Bob...you've never given any evidence you are brighter than a shoelace. I'd like to meet Crist, Frank, and Maddow socially. I like bright people. Their sexual persuasion is no concern of mine. Ever wonder where Harry got the name naled at mypacks for an email address. Wonder no more. look up naled in google groups or simply follow this link http://groups.google.com/groups/dir?...ch+for+a+group William? I don't think so. Indeed...oh, and that email addy? Assigned by my old ISP, along with a few others, as emails to use on-line so as to not get jammed in your "real" email accounts with spam. We have a lot of really stupid righties here...and they keep changing their handles, which only further demos their stupidity. -- The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name. |
Crist has small lead over Rubio...
"William" wrote in message
... On 5/5/2010 1:58 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: Gay is certainly higher up on the evolutionary scale than conservative republican. We will have to leave this to you Harry the expert in gayness. You and the other rightwing nuts are sure afraid of gays. This is really shocking news. Is that why you keep saying we're afraid of you? I'm not gay, but if I were, I'm sure that would be their primary excuse. |
Crist has small lead over Rubio...
On 5/5/2010 4:44 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message ... On 5/5/2010 1:58 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: Gay is certainly higher up on the evolutionary scale than conservative republican. We will have to leave this to you Harry the expert in gayness. You and the other rightwing nuts are sure afraid of gays. This is really shocking news. Is that why you keep saying we're afraid of you? I'm not gay, but Not even a little bit? You should at least give it a try. |
Crist has small lead over Rubio...
On 5/5/10 4:58 PM, William wrote:
On 5/5/2010 4:44 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: wrote in message ... On 5/5/2010 1:58 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: Gay is certainly higher up on the evolutionary scale than conservative republican. We will have to leave this to you Harry the expert in gayness. You and the other rightwing nuts are sure afraid of gays. This is really shocking news. Is that why you keep saying we're afraid of you? I'm not gay, but Not even a little bit? You should at least give it a try. It works for you, eh? -- The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name. |
Crist has small lead over Rubio...
On 5/5/2010 6:36 PM, hk wrote:
On 5/5/10 4:58 PM, William wrote: On 5/5/2010 4:44 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: wrote in message ... On 5/5/2010 1:58 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: Gay is certainly higher up on the evolutionary scale than conservative republican. We will have to leave this to you Harry the expert in gayness. You and the other rightwing nuts are sure afraid of gays. This is really shocking news. Is that why you keep saying we're afraid of you? I'm not gay, but Not even a little bit? You should at least give it a try. It works for you, eh? Shhhh. |
Crist has small lead over Rubio...
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... On 5/5/2010 4:44 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: wrote in message ... On 5/5/2010 1:58 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: Gay is certainly higher up on the evolutionary scale than conservative republican. We will have to leave this to you Harry the expert in gayness. You and the other rightwing nuts are sure afraid of gays. This is really shocking news. Is that why you keep saying we're afraid of you? I'm not gay, but Not even a little bit? You should at least give it a try. Is it something you've tried? If so, do tell - NOT |
Crist has small lead over Rubio...
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... On Wed, 5 May 2010 11:52:07 -0400, "mmc" wrote: There are also a lot of people who wanted SB6 that Crist originally supported, then vetoed. That was the one that made teacher pay coincide with teacher performance and limited tenure. There are a lot of parents here who are ****ed that the school board spends $17,661 per student ($1.4B/80400 students) and our graduation rate is 53%. They think something is dreadfully wrong with the school system. This thing is like FCAT where the better off schools, with parents at home to help the kids and make sure they did thier home work got better scores and funding was tied to those scores. There is a lot of hype from the teachers saying tests don't matter but the reality is, if you can't do well on tests, you will never be able to get a decent job. Well.... some people just don't test well. I have an attorney friend who tried the Cal Bar three times before he passed. He's a heck of a lot smarter than I, and he makes a heck of a lot more money. I've known a couple of biologists who are quite bright, but never did well on test and never got advanced degrees. I think tests can be an indication of future success, but I don't think they're the last word on the subject. |
Crist has small lead over Rubio...
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Crist has small lead over Rubio...
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says... On 5/5/10 8:05 PM, wrote: On Wed, 5 May 2010 16:38:45 -0700, wrote: There is a lot of hype from the teachers saying tests don't matter but the reality is, if you can't do well on tests, you will never be able to get a decent job. Well.... some people just don't test well. I have an attorney friend who tried the Cal Bar three times before he passed. He's a heck of a lot smarter than I, and he makes a heck of a lot more money. I've known a couple of biologists who are quite bright, but never did well on test and never got advanced degrees. I think tests can be an indication of future success, but I don't think they're the last word on the subject. Unfortunately they are a fact of life and the sooner kids learn how to take a test the sooner they will succeed in the 21st century society. In Florida you can't even cut hair or do fingernails without passing a standardized test. Obviously, as you pointed out, all "professions" use tests for a benchmark. It is also the key to getting into a decent college, getting a decent job in the military or even things as mundane as a driver's license. Without test skills your only paths to success are as a rock star, athlete or drug dealer. The problem with putting the onus on classroom teachers for the performance of their charges is that the teachers have no control over the kids' environments outside of school. Educated adults who take exams in order to practice a profession can take virtually all the time they need to prep, and they can, within reason, control their environment. Lots of kids who do not "achieve" have a lousy home life and that diminishes the ability for many to prep for standardized tests. "Without test skills your only paths to success are as a rock star, athlete or drug dealer." Or half-term governor of Alaska. When society takes away the tools of parenting from the parents you can't put the blame for the failings of the chidren/students upon the parents. Hillary's book "It Takes a Village" is proof that the liberal/progressives/Democrat's don't want the parents to be the final authority for their own childrens upbringing. |
Crist has small lead over Rubio...
On 5/5/10 8:38 PM, BAR wrote:
In articleVLadncq_EJKhlH_WnZ2dnUVZ_r6dnZ2d@earthlink .com, says... On 5/5/10 8:05 PM, wrote: On Wed, 5 May 2010 16:38:45 -0700, wrote: There is a lot of hype from the teachers saying tests don't matter but the reality is, if you can't do well on tests, you will never be able to get a decent job. Well.... some people just don't test well. I have an attorney friend who tried the Cal Bar three times before he passed. He's a heck of a lot smarter than I, and he makes a heck of a lot more money. I've known a couple of biologists who are quite bright, but never did well on test and never got advanced degrees. I think tests can be an indication of future success, but I don't think they're the last word on the subject. Unfortunately they are a fact of life and the sooner kids learn how to take a test the sooner they will succeed in the 21st century society. In Florida you can't even cut hair or do fingernails without passing a standardized test. Obviously, as you pointed out, all "professions" use tests for a benchmark. It is also the key to getting into a decent college, getting a decent job in the military or even things as mundane as a driver's license. Without test skills your only paths to success are as a rock star, athlete or drug dealer. The problem with putting the onus on classroom teachers for the performance of their charges is that the teachers have no control over the kids' environments outside of school. Educated adults who take exams in order to practice a profession can take virtually all the time they need to prep, and they can, within reason, control their environment. Lots of kids who do not "achieve" have a lousy home life and that diminishes the ability for many to prep for standardized tests. "Without test skills your only paths to success are as a rock star, athlete or drug dealer." Or half-term governor of Alaska. When society takes away the tools of parenting from the parents you can't put the blame for the failings of the chidren/students upon the parents. Hillary's book "It Takes a Village" is proof that the liberal/progressives/Democrat's don't want the parents to be the final authority for their own childrens upbringing. You don't have the knowledge, experience, or background to make such a judgment. -- The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name. |
Crist has small lead over Rubio...
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... On Wed, 5 May 2010 16:38:45 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: There is a lot of hype from the teachers saying tests don't matter but the reality is, if you can't do well on tests, you will never be able to get a decent job. Well.... some people just don't test well. I have an attorney friend who tried the Cal Bar three times before he passed. He's a heck of a lot smarter than I, and he makes a heck of a lot more money. I've known a couple of biologists who are quite bright, but never did well on test and never got advanced degrees. I think tests can be an indication of future success, but I don't think they're the last word on the subject. Unfortunately they are a fact of life and the sooner kids learn how to take a test the sooner they will succeed in the 21st century society. In Florida you can't even cut hair or do fingernails without passing a standardized test. Obviously, as you pointed out, all "professions" use tests for a benchmark. It is also the key to getting into a decent college, getting a decent job in the military or even things as mundane as a driver's license. Without test skills your only paths to success are as a rock star, athlete or drug dealer. Well... there are certainly other choices, but I get your point. So, the question is to what should teachers teach? If they teach for knowledge, then there'll be some who can't cut it on tests. If they teach for test taking, then the kids aren't necessarily learning. Seems like a combination is what I had and what should be done. I think that's mostly happening, but far too many teachers are teaching test passing. There's got to be a coherent way to evaluate teachers, based on knowledge. |
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