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Then there are storms.


How does an engine help in a storm? I doubt much.


Wrong, possibly dead wrong with bad luck. Some of these issues have
already been discussed in this thread. Repeating and embellishing,
one of the most common issues with salboats in a storm is becoming
overwhelmed by the wind. This is particularly dangerous when close
to a leeward shore or some other immovable object. A good engine can
help a lot to maintain control and the ability to make way to
windward. There is much to learn about all this and experience is a
tough teacher.


Well, I was thinking of the limiting case where wind would overwhelm
engine
output and where there's no "land" issue. Seems to me that in storm
(survival) conditions, even a small amount of sail would give you more
control than an engine could, even if that means not making progress. I
read
the Perfect Storm, and I don't recall the sailboat having use of engine
to
maintain control.



I'm still trying to believe you aren't trolling...

The Andrea Gail (sp?) was a fishing trawler - not a sailboat.

You're an idiot. It was the Satori. Try again bozo.



Perhaps he didn't remember the sailboat. So what. There is nothing to
argue about with you because you simple don't understand anything about
sailing or trying to maintain some control in stormy seas. The Perfect
Storm was one mutha of a storm and I don't see what point you could
possibly be leading to by referencing it.

You know nothing. You want to know nothing. You just want to make stupid
arguments. Go away.


Or, perhaps he's a liar. And, perhaps you're a stalker... you keep posting
about me, to me.



I'm not a liar. Show me where I lied. You are starving for attention
and loving every bit of it.

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nom=de=plume wrote:
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On 4/28/2010 10:58 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:

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nom=de=plume wrote:

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On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 18:03:33 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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Then there are storms.


How does an engine help in a storm? I doubt much.


Wrong, possibly dead wrong with bad luck. Some of these issues have
already been discussed in this thread. Repeating and embellishing,
one of the most common issues with salboats in a storm is becoming
overwhelmed by the wind. This is particularly dangerous when close
to a leeward shore or some other immovable object. A good engine
can
help a lot to maintain control and the ability to make way to
windward. There is much to learn about all this and experience is
a
tough teacher.


Well, I was thinking of the limiting case where wind would overwhelm
engine
output and where there's no "land" issue. Seems to me that in storm
(survival) conditions, even a small amount of sail would give you
more
control than an engine could, even if that means not making progress.
I
read
the Perfect Storm, and I don't recall the sailboat having use of
engine
to
maintain control.



I'm still trying to believe you aren't trolling...

The Andrea Gail (sp?) was a fishing trawler - not a sailboat.

You're an idiot. It was the Satori. Try again bozo.



Perhaps he didn't remember the sailboat. So what. There is nothing to
argue about with you because you simple don't understand anything about
sailing or trying to maintain some control in stormy seas. The Perfect
Storm was one mutha of a storm and I don't see what point you could
possibly be leading to by referencing it.

You know nothing. You want to know nothing. You just want to make stupid
arguments. Go away.


Or, perhaps he's a liar. And, perhaps you're a stalker... you keep
posting
about me, to me.



I'm not a liar. Show me where I lied. You are starving for attention and
loving every bit of it.


Already said. Sorry if you can't read that well.

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On Apr 29, 11:02*am, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
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On 4/28/2010 10:58 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
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nom=de=plume wrote:
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On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 18:03:33 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
* wrote:

Then there are storms.

How does an engine help in a storm? I doubt much.

Wrong, possibly dead wrong with bad luck. *Some of these issues have
already been discussed in this thread. *Repeating and embellishing,
one of the most common issues with salboats in a storm is becoming
overwhelmed by the wind. * This is particularly dangerous when close
to a leeward shore or some other immovable object. *A good engine can
help a lot to maintain control and the ability to make way to
windward. * There is much to learn about all this and experience is a
tough teacher.

Well, I was thinking of the limiting case where wind would overwhelm
engine
output and where there's no "land" issue. Seems to me that in storm
(survival) conditions, even a small amount of sail would give you more
control than an engine could, even if that means not making progress.. I
read
the Perfect Storm, and I don't recall the sailboat having use of engine
to
maintain control.

I'm still trying to believe you aren't trolling...

The Andrea Gail (sp?) was a fishing trawler - not a sailboat.

You're an idiot. It was the Satori. Try again bozo.

Perhaps he didn't remember the sailboat. So what. There is nothing to
argue about with you because you simple don't understand anything about
sailing or trying to maintain some control in stormy seas. The Perfect
Storm was one mutha of a storm and I don't see what point you could
possibly be leading to by referencing it.

You know nothing. You want to know nothing. You just want to make stupid
arguments. Go away.

Or, perhaps he's a liar. And, perhaps you're a stalker... you keep posting
about me, to me.

And you love it so, keep acting annoyed.

Realistic cruising under sail
 

On 4/30/2010 12:51 AM, TopBassDog wrote:
On Apr 29, 11:02 am, wrote:
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On 4/28/2010 10:58 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
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nom=de=plume wrote:
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On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 18:03:33 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Then there are storms.

How does an engine help in a storm? I doubt much.

Wrong, possibly dead wrong with bad luck. Some of these issues have
already been discussed in this thread. Repeating and embellishing,
one of the most common issues with salboats in a storm is becoming
overwhelmed by the wind. This is particularly dangerous when close
to a leeward shore or some other immovable object. A good engine can
help a lot to maintain control and the ability to make way to
windward. There is much to learn about all this and experience is a
tough teacher.

Well, I was thinking of the limiting case where wind would overwhelm
engine
output and where there's no "land" issue. Seems to me that in storm
(survival) conditions, even a small amount of sail would give you more
control than an engine could, even if that means not making progress.. I
read
the Perfect Storm, and I don't recall the sailboat having use of engine
to
maintain control.

I'm still trying to believe you aren't trolling...

The Andrea Gail (sp?) was a fishing trawler - not a sailboat.

You're an idiot. It was the Satori. Try again bozo.

Perhaps he didn't remember the sailboat. So what. There is nothing to
argue about with you because you simple don't understand anything about
sailing or trying to maintain some control in stormy seas. The Perfect
Storm was one mutha of a storm and I don't see what point you could
possibly be leading to by referencing it.

You know nothing. You want to know nothing. You just want to make stupid
arguments. Go away.

Or, perhaps he's a liar. And, perhaps you're a stalker... you keep posting
about me, to me.

And you love it so, keep acting annoyed.

We should all stop posting to or about Plume at 8AM. The residual vacuum
will suck Plume's brain out, with any luck.

Realistic cruising under sail
 

"anon-e-moose" wrote in message
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On 4/30/2010 12:51 AM, TopBassDog wrote:
On Apr 29, 11:02 am, wrote:
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On 4/28/2010 10:58 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
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nom=de=plume wrote:
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On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 18:03:33 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Then there are storms.

How does an engine help in a storm? I doubt much.

Wrong, possibly dead wrong with bad luck. Some of these issues
have
already been discussed in this thread. Repeating and embellishing,
one of the most common issues with salboats in a storm is becoming
overwhelmed by the wind. This is particularly dangerous when
close
to a leeward shore or some other immovable object. A good engine
can
help a lot to maintain control and the ability to make way to
windward. There is much to learn about all this and experience is
a
tough teacher.

Well, I was thinking of the limiting case where wind would overwhelm
engine
output and where there's no "land" issue. Seems to me that in storm
(survival) conditions, even a small amount of sail would give you
more
control than an engine could, even if that means not making
progress.. I
read
the Perfect Storm, and I don't recall the sailboat having use of
engine
to
maintain control.

I'm still trying to believe you aren't trolling...

The Andrea Gail (sp?) was a fishing trawler - not a sailboat.

You're an idiot. It was the Satori. Try again bozo.

Perhaps he didn't remember the sailboat. So what. There is nothing to
argue about with you because you simple don't understand anything about
sailing or trying to maintain some control in stormy seas. The Perfect
Storm was one mutha of a storm and I don't see what point you could
possibly be leading to by referencing it.

You know nothing. You want to know nothing. You just want to make
stupid
arguments. Go away.

Or, perhaps he's a liar. And, perhaps you're a stalker... you keep
posting
about me, to me.

And you love it so, keep acting annoyed.

We should all stop posting to or about Plume at 8AM. The residual vacuum
will suck Plume's brain out, with any luck.


Yes! You should. But, you can't. You're a wimp, coward, liar and stalker.

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On Apr 30, 1:53*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
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On 4/30/2010 12:51 AM, TopBassDog wrote:
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On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 18:03:33 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
* * wrote:

Then there are storms.

How does an engine help in a storm? I doubt much.

Wrong, possibly dead wrong with bad luck. *Some of these issues
have
already been discussed in this thread. *Repeating and embellishing,
one of the most common issues with salboats in a storm is becoming
overwhelmed by the wind. * This is particularly dangerous when
close
to a leeward shore or some other immovable object. *A good engine
can
help a lot to maintain control and the ability to make way to
windward. * There is much to learn about all this and experience is
a
tough teacher.

Well, I was thinking of the limiting case where wind would overwhelm
engine
output and where there's no "land" issue. Seems to me that in storm
(survival) conditions, even a small amount of sail would give you
more
control than an engine could, even if that means not making
progress.. I
read
the Perfect Storm, and I don't recall the sailboat having use of
engine
to
maintain control.

I'm still trying to believe you aren't trolling...

The Andrea Gail (sp?) was a fishing trawler - not a sailboat.

You're an idiot. It was the Satori. Try again bozo.

Perhaps he didn't remember the sailboat. So what. There is nothing to
argue about with you because you simple don't understand anything about
sailing or trying to maintain some control in stormy seas. The Perfect
Storm was one mutha of a storm and I don't see what point you could
possibly be leading to by referencing it.

You know nothing. You want to know nothing. You just want to make
stupid
arguments. Go away.

Or, perhaps he's a liar. And, perhaps you're a stalker... you keep
posting
about me, to me.

And you love it so, keep acting annoyed.

We should all stop posting to or about Plume at 8AM. The residual vacuum
will suck Plume's brain out, with any luck.

Yes! You should. But, you can't. You're a wimp, coward, liar and stalker.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You've just described Harry to a tee!!!

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On 4/30/2010 2:03 PM, Loogypicker wrote:
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On 4/30/2010 12:51 AM, TopBassDog wrote:
On Apr 29, 11:02 am, wrote:
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On 4/28/2010 10:58 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
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nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
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On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 18:03:33 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Then there are storms.

How does an engine help in a storm? I doubt much.

Wrong, possibly dead wrong with bad luck. Some of these issues
have
already been discussed in this thread. Repeating and embellishing,
one of the most common issues with salboats in a storm is becoming
overwhelmed by the wind. This is particularly dangerous when
close
to a leeward shore or some other immovable object. A good engine
can
help a lot to maintain control and the ability to make way to
windward. There is much to learn about all this and experience is
a
tough teacher.

Well, I was thinking of the limiting case where wind would overwhelm
engine
output and where there's no "land" issue. Seems to me that in storm
(survival) conditions, even a small amount of sail would give you
more
control than an engine could, even if that means not making
progress.. I
read
the Perfect Storm, and I don't recall the sailboat having use of
engine
to
maintain control.

I'm still trying to believe you aren't trolling...

The Andrea Gail (sp?) was a fishing trawler - not a sailboat.

You're an idiot. It was the Satori. Try again bozo.

Perhaps he didn't remember the sailboat. So what. There is nothing to
argue about with you because you simple don't understand anything about
sailing or trying to maintain some control in stormy seas. The Perfect
Storm was one mutha of a storm and I don't see what point you could
possibly be leading to by referencing it.

You know nothing. You want to know nothing. You just want to make
stupid
arguments. Go away.

Or, perhaps he's a liar. And, perhaps you're a stalker... you keep
posting
about me, to me.

And you love it so, keep acting annoyed.

We should all stop posting to or about Plume at 8AM. The residual vacuum
will suck Plume's brain out, with any luck.

Yes! You should. But, you can't. You're a wimp, coward, liar and stalker.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You've just described Harry to a tee!!!

She did, didn't she. I wonder if she has made his aquaintance?

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"Loogypicker" wrote in message
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On Apr 30, 1:53 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
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On 4/30/2010 12:51 AM, TopBassDog wrote:
On Apr 29, 11:02 am, wrote:
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On 4/28/2010 10:58 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
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On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 18:03:33 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Then there are storms.

How does an engine help in a storm? I doubt much.

Wrong, possibly dead wrong with bad luck. Some of these issues
have
already been discussed in this thread. Repeating and
embellishing,
one of the most common issues with salboats in a storm is
becoming
overwhelmed by the wind. This is particularly dangerous when
close
to a leeward shore or some other immovable object. A good engine
can
help a lot to maintain control and the ability to make way to
windward. There is much to learn about all this and experience is
a
tough teacher.

Well, I was thinking of the limiting case where wind would
overwhelm
engine
output and where there's no "land" issue. Seems to me that in
storm
(survival) conditions, even a small amount of sail would give you
more
control than an engine could, even if that means not making
progress.. I
read
the Perfect Storm, and I don't recall the sailboat having use of
engine
to
maintain control.

I'm still trying to believe you aren't trolling...

The Andrea Gail (sp?) was a fishing trawler - not a sailboat.

You're an idiot. It was the Satori. Try again bozo.

Perhaps he didn't remember the sailboat. So what. There is nothing to
argue about with you because you simple don't understand anything
about
sailing or trying to maintain some control in stormy seas. The
Perfect
Storm was one mutha of a storm and I don't see what point you could
possibly be leading to by referencing it.

You know nothing. You want to know nothing. You just want to make
stupid
arguments. Go away.

Or, perhaps he's a liar. And, perhaps you're a stalker... you keep
posting
about me, to me.

And you love it so, keep acting annoyed.

We should all stop posting to or about Plume at 8AM. The residual vacuum
will suck Plume's brain out, with any luck.

Yes! You should. But, you can't. You're a wimp, coward, liar and stalker.-
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You've just described Harry to a tee!!!


Ok. Not sure what this has to do with anony... is he Harry? I don't think
so. :)

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"Loogypicker" wrote in message
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On Apr 30, 1:53 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
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On 4/30/2010 12:51 AM, TopBassDog wrote:
On Apr 29, 11:02 am, wrote:
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On 4/28/2010 10:58 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
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nom=de=plume wrote:
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On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 18:03:33 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Then there are storms.

How does an engine help in a storm? I doubt much.

Wrong, possibly dead wrong with bad luck. Some of these issues
have
already been discussed in this thread. Repeating and
embellishing,
one of the most common issues with salboats in a storm is
becoming
overwhelmed by the wind. This is particularly dangerous when
close
to a leeward shore or some other immovable object. A good engine
can
help a lot to maintain control and the ability to make way to
windward. There is much to learn about all this and experience is
a
tough teacher.

Well, I was thinking of the limiting case where wind would
overwhelm
engine
output and where there's no "land" issue. Seems to me that in
storm
(survival) conditions, even a small amount of sail would give you
more
control than an engine could, even if that means not making
progress.. I
read
the Perfect Storm, and I don't recall the sailboat having use of
engine
to
maintain control.

I'm still trying to believe you aren't trolling...

The Andrea Gail (sp?) was a fishing trawler - not a sailboat.

You're an idiot. It was the Satori. Try again bozo.

Perhaps he didn't remember the sailboat. So what. There is nothing to
argue about with you because you simple don't understand anything
about
sailing or trying to maintain some control in stormy seas. The
Perfect
Storm was one mutha of a storm and I don't see what point you could
possibly be leading to by referencing it.

You know nothing. You want to know nothing. You just want to make
stupid
arguments. Go away.

Or, perhaps he's a liar. And, perhaps you're a stalker... you keep
posting
about me, to me.

And you love it so, keep acting annoyed.

We should all stop posting to or about Plume at 8AM. The residual vacuum
will suck Plume's brain out, with any luck.

Yes! You should. But, you can't. You're a wimp, coward, liar and stalker.-
Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You've just described Harry to a tee!!!


So, just curious... why the hatred of Harry? You accused me of hating
someone, which I don't, but you're pretty antagonistic and seem to post a
lot about him. Just wondering. I know he does similar, but I'm asking you.

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On 4/30/10 4:31 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
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On 4/30/2010 12:51 AM, TopBassDog wrote:
On Apr 29, 11:02 am, wrote:
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On 4/28/2010 10:58 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
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nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
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On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 18:03:33 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Then there are storms.

How does an engine help in a storm? I doubt much.

Wrong, possibly dead wrong with bad luck. Some of these issues
have
already been discussed in this thread. Repeating and
embellishing,
one of the most common issues with salboats in a storm is
becoming
overwhelmed by the wind. This is particularly dangerous when
close
to a leeward shore or some other immovable object. A good engine
can
help a lot to maintain control and the ability to make way to
windward. There is much to learn about all this and experience is
a
tough teacher.

Well, I was thinking of the limiting case where wind would
overwhelm
engine
output and where there's no "land" issue. Seems to me that in
storm
(survival) conditions, even a small amount of sail would give you
more
control than an engine could, even if that means not making
progress.. I
read
the Perfect Storm, and I don't recall the sailboat having use of
engine
to
maintain control.

I'm still trying to believe you aren't trolling...

The Andrea Gail (sp?) was a fishing trawler - not a sailboat.

You're an idiot. It was the Satori. Try again bozo.

Perhaps he didn't remember the sailboat. So what. There is nothing to
argue about with you because you simple don't understand anything
about
sailing or trying to maintain some control in stormy seas. The
Perfect
Storm was one mutha of a storm and I don't see what point you could
possibly be leading to by referencing it.

You know nothing. You want to know nothing. You just want to make
stupid
arguments. Go away.

Or, perhaps he's a liar. And, perhaps you're a stalker... you keep
posting
about me, to me.

And you love it so, keep acting annoyed.

We should all stop posting to or about Plume at 8AM. The residual vacuum
will suck Plume's brain out, with any luck.

Yes! You should. But, you can't. You're a wimp, coward, liar and stalker.-
Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You've just described Harry to a tee!!!


So, just curious... why the hatred of Harry? You accused me of hating
someone, which I don't, but you're pretty antagonistic and seem to post a
lot about him. Just wondering. I know he does similar, but I'm asking you.



I used to stick up for loogy "back in the day," and only because he
seemed to be politically moderate, as opposed to the plethora of
right-wing scum that permeates this newsgroup. But after a while, I
realized he was just another short-tempered little ****, always willing
to go after others, whatever side of the spectrum they favored. He also
reminds me a bit of a small child with a perseveration problem.

He's threatened me and others here several times, and has threatened to
show up here...even though he's been told he is not welcome. If he tries
to bust into the house, he's going to go home in a body bag. At my age,
I don't engage in fistfights with ****heads 20 or more years young...if
I am under "assault" in the house, I have another way to handle the
situation.







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