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....of the 1914 Ludlow mine massacre.

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The Ludlow massacre refers to the violent deaths of 21 people during an
attack by the Colorado National Guard on a tent colony of 1,200 striking
coal miners and their families at Ludlow, Colorado on April 20, 1914.
The deaths occurred after a day-long fight between strikers and the
Guard. Two women and eleven children were asphyxiated and burned to
death. Three union leaders and two strikers were killed by gunfire,
along with one child, one passer-by, and one National Guardsman. In
response, the miners armed themselves and attacked dozens of mines,
destroying property and engaging in several skirmishes with the Colorado
National Guard.

This was the deadliest incident in the 14-month 1913-1914 southern
Colorado Coal Strike. The strike was organized by the United Mine
Workers of America (UMWA) against coal mining companies in Colorado. The
three largest companies involved were the Rockefeller family-owned
Colorado Fuel & Iron Company (CF&I), the Rocky Mountain Fuel Company
(RMF), and the Victor-American Fuel Company (VAF). Ludlow, located 12
miles (19 km) northwest of Trinidad, Colorado, is now a ghost town. The
massacre site is owned by the UMWA, which erected a granite monument in
memory of the miners and their families who died that day.

The Ludlow Tent Colony Site was designated a National Historic Landmark
on January 16, 2009, and dedicated on June 28, 2009. Modern
archeological investigation largely supports the strikers' reports of
the event.





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...of the 1914 Ludlow mine massacre.

From wiki:

The Ludlow massacre refers to the violent deaths of 21 people during an
attack by the Colorado National Guard on a tent colony of 1,200 striking
coal miners and their families at Ludlow, Colorado on April 20, 1914.


the right wing will, of course, say they were commies and deserved
what they god. they DARED to question the wisdom of those who were
their masters...the great rich humanitarians.
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On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 09:33:22 -0400, hk
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...of the 1914 Ludlow mine massacre.

From wiki:

The Ludlow massacre refers to the violent deaths of 21 people during an
attack by the Colorado National Guard on a tent colony of 1,200 striking
coal miners and their families at Ludlow, Colorado on April 20, 1914.


the right wing will, of course, say they were commies and deserved
what they god. they DARED to question the wisdom of those who were
their masters...the great rich humanitarians.


The right wing wasn't invented yet. The POTUS was Woodrow Wilson .... a
Democrat.

Eisboch


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On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 09:33:22 -0400, hk
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...of the 1914 Ludlow mine massacre.

From wiki:

The Ludlow massacre refers to the violent deaths of 21 people during an
attack by the Colorado National Guard on a tent colony of 1,200 striking
coal miners and their families at Ludlow, Colorado on April 20, 1914.


the right wing will, of course, say they were commies and deserved
what they god. they DARED to question the wisdom of those who were
their masters...the great rich humanitarians.


The right wing wasn't invented yet. The POTUS was Woodrow Wilson .... a
Democrat.


the right wing was present then. read about the whiskey rebellion, or
the history of the PA state police
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On 20/04/2010 5:10 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 09:33:22 -0400,
wrote:

...of the 1914 Ludlow mine massacre.

From wiki:

The Ludlow massacre refers to the violent deaths of 21 people during an
attack by the Colorado National Guard on a tent colony of 1,200 striking
coal miners and their families at Ludlow, Colorado on April 20, 1914.


the right wing will, of course, say they were commies and deserved
what they god. they DARED to question the wisdom of those who were
their masters...the great rich humanitarians.


What they should have done is just shut the mine down and fire them all.
Give it 2 or 3 months and most would move on.

Unfortunately it was also a period of ramp up for WW I and poor
employment environment in the US. The ore was needed unless of course
you wanted to speak German.

The economy functions best when unemployment is very low and demand for
employees is high. It forces employers to treat and pay well, or no one
needs to work for them.

Unions are nothing more than little mafias protecting the inept, lazy
and useless. Many people in union shops need to get so fired, but you
can't. Letting a business fire the losers is essential as hiring.

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Unions are nothing more than little mafias protecting the inept, lazy
and useless.


and corporations are nothing more than legal fictions built to protect
the greedy, society and community destroying degenerates who run them


Many people in union shops need to get so fired, but you
can't. Letting a business fire the losers is essential as hiring.


gee. how many unions caused 9 trillion dollars in losses, and the loss
of 8,000,000 jobs in the last year?

you right wingers. you hate unions. you hate the middle class.
everything is their fault

but wall street? that's the burning bush

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Unions are nothing more than little mafias protecting the inept, lazy
and useless.


and corporations are nothing more than legal fictions built to protect
the greedy, society and community destroying degenerates who run them


Many people in union shops need to get so fired, but you
can't. Letting a business fire the losers is essential as hiring.


gee. how many unions caused 9 trillion dollars in losses, and the loss
of 8,000,000 jobs in the last year?

you right wingers. you hate unions. you hate the middle class.
everything is their fault

but wall street? that's the burning bush


You can't possibly believe Canuck is a man of means...he's just a
Canadian teabagger.


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On 4/20/10 8:52 PM, bpuharic wrote:
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Unions are nothing more than little mafias protecting the inept, lazy
and useless.


and corporations are nothing more than legal fictions built to protect
the greedy, society and community destroying degenerates who run them


Many people in union shops need to get so fired, but you
can't. Letting a business fire the losers is essential as hiring.


gee. how many unions caused 9 trillion dollars in losses, and the loss
of 8,000,000 jobs in the last year?

you right wingers. you hate unions. you hate the middle class.
everything is their fault

but wall street? that's the burning bush


You can't possibly believe Canuck is a man of means...he's just a
Canadian teabagger.


I leave teabagging to you.

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On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 18:10:36 -0600,
wrote:



Unions are nothing more than little mafias protecting the inept, lazy
and useless.


and corporations are nothing more than legal fictions built to protect
the greedy, society and community destroying degenerates who run them


Many people in union shops need to get so fired, but you
can't. Letting a business fire the losers is essential as hiring.


gee. how many unions caused 9 trillion dollars in losses, and the loss
of 8,000,000 jobs in the last year?

you right wingers. you hate unions. you hate the middle class.
everything is their fault

but wall street? that's the burning bush


Unions had a pretty good hand in GM and GM pensions, lost much more than
$170 billion of bonds, investments.... when you factor in losses all
over probaly $250 billion or more...much of which is other peoples
pension/401K money.

Yep, the same money you lost. LMAO.

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On 20/04/2010 5:10 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 09:33:22 -0400,
wrote:

...of the 1914 Ludlow mine massacre.

From wiki:

The Ludlow massacre refers to the violent deaths of 21 people during an
attack by the Colorado National Guard on a tent colony of 1,200 striking
coal miners and their families at Ludlow, Colorado on April 20, 1914.


the right wing will, of course, say they were commies and deserved
what they god. they DARED to question the wisdom of those who were
their masters...the great rich humanitarians.


What they should have done is just shut the mine down and fire them all.
Give it 2 or 3 months and most would move on.

Unfortunately it was also a period of ramp up for WW I and poor employment
environment in the US. The ore was needed unless of course you wanted to
speak German.

The economy functions best when unemployment is very low and demand for
employees is high. It forces employers to treat and pay well, or no one
needs to work for them.

Unions are nothing more than little mafias protecting the inept, lazy and
useless. Many people in union shops need to get so fired, but you can't.
Letting a business fire the losers is essential as hiring.


Amen!

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