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Seems like unless you're close to shore, you really don't need a lot of
engine power. Maybe in a storm, but wouldn't the concern be running the
engine without intake water or running out of fuel if you run it too
long?
I'm mean that's why it's a sailboat... to sail.


There are two times when you need power on a sailboat: Bad weather and
good weather.

Most cruising sailboats spend more than 90% of their time underway
with the engine running. Either the wind is from the wrong direction,
too weak or too strong.


I thought most sailboats spend more than 90% of their time sitting in a
berth or anchored. :)

Why would you need to run the engine offshore when there's lots of wind?
Seems like it wouldn't help that much. I can understand needing to get
away
from a shoreline, but in the middle of an ocean? If it's really that bad,
wouldn't you want to try and slow the boat? I saw parachutes for this at
the
boat show.



Did you see sea anchors?


Didn't see them, but certainly heard about them.


If you saw parachutes to slow a boat you saw sea anchors.

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On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 17:40:09 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
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Sometimes, close to a lee shore in strong wind, the safest thing to do
is to take the sails down and use the engine to get further out.

I prefer to leave up a deeply reefed mainsail to maintain directional
control and assist with keeping the bow into the wind. Without that
the wind will pick up the bow on every wavetop and push it back to
leeward.


I'm hoping that this stuff is going to be covered when I take the lessons.


Why did you argue that you didn't have a lot to learn?

Before you take your lessons, you might want to charter a sailboat with
an experienced captain. You will learn a lot but, more importantly, you
will know quickly if sailing is for you.

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On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 17:40:09 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
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Sometimes, close to a lee shore in strong wind, the safest thing to do
is to take the sails down and use the engine to get further out.

I prefer to leave up a deeply reefed mainsail to maintain directional
control and assist with keeping the bow into the wind. Without that
the wind will pick up the bow on every wavetop and push it back to
leeward.


I'm hoping that this stuff is going to be covered when I take the
lessons.


Why did you argue that you didn't have a lot to learn?

Where did you get that? I never said that.

Before you take your lessons, you might want to charter a sailboat with an
experienced captain. You will learn a lot but, more importantly, you will
know quickly if sailing is for you.

My friend is an experienced captain. I've been sailing many times, though
many not recently. Try to keep up.

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On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 20:46:58 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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Seems like unless you're close to shore, you really don't need a lot
of
engine power. Maybe in a storm, but wouldn't the concern be running
the
engine without intake water or running out of fuel if you run it too
long?
I'm mean that's why it's a sailboat... to sail.


There are two times when you need power on a sailboat: Bad weather and
good weather.

Most cruising sailboats spend more than 90% of their time underway
with the engine running. Either the wind is from the wrong direction,
too weak or too strong.


I thought most sailboats spend more than 90% of their time sitting in a
berth or anchored. :)

Why would you need to run the engine offshore when there's lots of
wind?
Seems like it wouldn't help that much. I can understand needing to get
away
from a shoreline, but in the middle of an ocean? If it's really that
bad,
wouldn't you want to try and slow the boat? I saw parachutes for this
at
the
boat show.



Did you see sea anchors?


Didn't see them, but certainly heard about them.


If you saw parachutes to slow a boat you saw sea anchors.


So, a drogue is never called a sea anchor? That's not what I was told.

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On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 20:46:58 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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Seems like unless you're close to shore, you really don't need a lot
of
engine power. Maybe in a storm, but wouldn't the concern be running
the
engine without intake water or running out of fuel if you run it too
long?
I'm mean that's why it's a sailboat... to sail.



There are two times when you need power on a sailboat: Bad weather and
good weather.

Most cruising sailboats spend more than 90% of their time underway
with the engine running. Either the wind is from the wrong direction,
too weak or too strong.



I thought most sailboats spend more than 90% of their time sitting in a
berth or anchored. :)

Why would you need to run the engine offshore when there's lots of
wind?
Seems like it wouldn't help that much. I can understand needing to get
away
from a shoreline, but in the middle of an ocean? If it's really that
bad,
wouldn't you want to try and slow the boat? I saw parachutes for this
at
the
boat show.




Did you see sea anchors?


Didn't see them, but certainly heard about them.



If you saw parachutes to slow a boat you saw sea anchors.


So, a drogue is never called a sea anchor? That's not what I was told.


When did you ever use that word? Parachute was your choice and you were
corrected by other people than me.

Google first - not later.

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On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 20:46:58 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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Seems like unless you're close to shore, you really don't need a
lot
of
engine power. Maybe in a storm, but wouldn't the concern be running
the
engine without intake water or running out of fuel if you run it
too
long?
I'm mean that's why it's a sailboat... to sail.



There are two times when you need power on a sailboat: Bad weather
and
good weather.

Most cruising sailboats spend more than 90% of their time underway
with the engine running. Either the wind is from the wrong
direction,
too weak or too strong.



I thought most sailboats spend more than 90% of their time sitting in
a
berth or anchored. :)

Why would you need to run the engine offshore when there's lots of
wind?
Seems like it wouldn't help that much. I can understand needing to
get
away
from a shoreline, but in the middle of an ocean? If it's really that
bad,
wouldn't you want to try and slow the boat? I saw parachutes for this
at
the
boat show.




Did you see sea anchors?


Didn't see them, but certainly heard about them.



If you saw parachutes to slow a boat you saw sea anchors.


So, a drogue is never called a sea anchor? That's not what I was told.


When did you ever use that word? Parachute was your choice and you were
corrected by other people than me.

Google first - not later.


I also used the word drogue. Yes, you're an ass.


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Seems like unless you're close to shore, you really don't need a
lot
of
engine power. Maybe in a storm, but wouldn't the concern be running
the
engine without intake water or running out of fuel if you run it
too
long?
I'm mean that's why it's a sailboat... to sail.




There are two times when you need power on a sailboat: Bad weather
and
good weather.

Most cruising sailboats spend more than 90% of their time underway
with the engine running. Either the wind is from the wrong
direction,
too weak or too strong.




I thought most sailboats spend more than 90% of their time sitting in
a
berth or anchored. :)

Why would you need to run the engine offshore when there's lots of
wind?
Seems like it wouldn't help that much. I can understand needing to
get
away
from a shoreline, but in the middle of an ocean? If it's really that
bad,
wouldn't you want to try and slow the boat? I saw parachutes for this
at
the
boat show.





Did you see sea anchors?



Didn't see them, but certainly heard about them.




If you saw parachutes to slow a boat you saw sea anchors.


So, a drogue is never called a sea anchor? That's not what I was told.



When did you ever use that word? Parachute was your choice and you were
corrected by other people than me.

Google first - not later.


I also used the word drogue. Yes, you're an ass.



No you didn't. If you had, you wouldn't have received the responses
that you did. Nice try, but you lied.

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Seems like unless you're close to shore, you really don't need a
lot
of
engine power. Maybe in a storm, but wouldn't the concern be
running
the
engine without intake water or running out of fuel if you run it
too
long?
I'm mean that's why it's a sailboat... to sail.




There are two times when you need power on a sailboat: Bad weather
and
good weather.

Most cruising sailboats spend more than 90% of their time underway
with the engine running. Either the wind is from the wrong
direction,
too weak or too strong.




I thought most sailboats spend more than 90% of their time sitting
in
a
berth or anchored. :)

Why would you need to run the engine offshore when there's lots of
wind?
Seems like it wouldn't help that much. I can understand needing to
get
away
from a shoreline, but in the middle of an ocean? If it's really
that
bad,
wouldn't you want to try and slow the boat? I saw parachutes for
this
at
the
boat show.





Did you see sea anchors?



Didn't see them, but certainly heard about them.




If you saw parachutes to slow a boat you saw sea anchors.


So, a drogue is never called a sea anchor? That's not what I was told.



When did you ever use that word? Parachute was your choice and you were
corrected by other people than me.

Google first - not later.


I also used the word drogue. Yes, you're an ass.



No you didn't. If you had, you wouldn't have received the responses that
you did. Nice try, but you lied.


Wrong again bozo. This is what I said:

"I think so... it was call paratech or something like that. Then, there was
a
drogue that hangs off the back. So, I guess you can either point into the
wind or slow down going down wind."

So, who's the liar? Not you. You're just an idiot.

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On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 20:46:58 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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Seems like unless you're close to shore, you really don't need a
lot
of
engine power. Maybe in a storm, but wouldn't the concern be
running
the
engine without intake water or running out of fuel if you run it
too
long?
I'm mean that's why it's a sailboat... to sail.





There are two times when you need power on a sailboat: Bad weather
and
good weather.

Most cruising sailboats spend more than 90% of their time underway
with the engine running. Either the wind is from the wrong
direction,
too weak or too strong.





I thought most sailboats spend more than 90% of their time sitting
in
a
berth or anchored. :)

Why would you need to run the engine offshore when there's lots of
wind?
Seems like it wouldn't help that much. I can understand needing to
get
away
from a shoreline, but in the middle of an ocean? If it's really
that
bad,
wouldn't you want to try and slow the boat? I saw parachutes for
this
at
the
boat show.






Did you see sea anchors?




Didn't see them, but certainly heard about them.





If you saw parachutes to slow a boat you saw sea anchors.



So, a drogue is never called a sea anchor? That's not what I was told.




When did you ever use that word? Parachute was your choice and you were
corrected by other people than me.

Google first - not later.


I also used the word drogue. Yes, you're an ass.




No you didn't. If you had, you wouldn't have received the responses that
you did. Nice try, but you lied.


Wrong again bozo. This is what I said:

"I think so... it was call paratech or something like that. Then, there was
a
drogue that hangs off the back. So, I guess you can either point into the
wind or slow down going down wind."

So, who's the liar? Not you. You're just an idiot.


"I saw parachutes for this at the boat show".

If you added anything else it was after you were schooled on the proper
term. I don't read every post you type and you certainly didn't quote
it in this thread.

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On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 20:46:58 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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Seems like unless you're close to shore, you really don't need
a
lot
of
engine power. Maybe in a storm, but wouldn't the concern be
running
the
engine without intake water or running out of fuel if you run
it
too
long?
I'm mean that's why it's a sailboat... to sail.





There are two times when you need power on a sailboat: Bad
weather
and
good weather.

Most cruising sailboats spend more than 90% of their time
underway
with the engine running. Either the wind is from the wrong
direction,
too weak or too strong.





I thought most sailboats spend more than 90% of their time
sitting
in
a
berth or anchored. :)

Why would you need to run the engine offshore when there's lots
of
wind?
Seems like it wouldn't help that much. I can understand needing
to
get
away
from a shoreline, but in the middle of an ocean? If it's really
that
bad,
wouldn't you want to try and slow the boat? I saw parachutes for
this
at
the
boat show.






Did you see sea anchors?




Didn't see them, but certainly heard about them.





If you saw parachutes to slow a boat you saw sea anchors.



So, a drogue is never called a sea anchor? That's not what I was
told.




When did you ever use that word? Parachute was your choice and you
were
corrected by other people than me.

Google first - not later.


I also used the word drogue. Yes, you're an ass.




No you didn't. If you had, you wouldn't have received the responses
that
you did. Nice try, but you lied.


Wrong again bozo. This is what I said:

"I think so... it was call paratech or something like that. Then, there
was
a
drogue that hangs off the back. So, I guess you can either point into the
wind or slow down going down wind."

So, who's the liar? Not you. You're just an idiot.


"I saw parachutes for this at the boat show".

If you added anything else it was after you were schooled on the proper
term. I don't read every post you type and you certainly didn't quote it
in this thread.

As I said, you're a liar. Oh wait... you're just an idiot.

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On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 20:46:58 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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Seems like unless you're close to shore, you really don't need
a
lot
of
engine power. Maybe in a storm, but wouldn't the concern be
running
the
engine without intake water or running out of fuel if you run
it
too
long?
I'm mean that's why it's a sailboat... to sail.





There are two times when you need power on a sailboat: Bad
weather
and
good weather.

Most cruising sailboats spend more than 90% of their time
underway
with the engine running. Either the wind is from the wrong
direction,
too weak or too strong.





I thought most sailboats spend more than 90% of their time
sitting
in
a
berth or anchored. :)

Why would you need to run the engine offshore when there's lots
of
wind?
Seems like it wouldn't help that much. I can understand needing
to
get
away
from a shoreline, but in the middle of an ocean? If it's really
that
bad,
wouldn't you want to try and slow the boat? I saw parachutes for
this
at
the
boat show.






Did you see sea anchors?




Didn't see them, but certainly heard about them.





If you saw parachutes to slow a boat you saw sea anchors.



So, a drogue is never called a sea anchor? That's not what I was
told.




When did you ever use that word? Parachute was your choice and you
were
corrected by other people than me.

Google first - not later.


I also used the word drogue. Yes, you're an ass.




No you didn't. If you had, you wouldn't have received the responses
that
you did. Nice try, but you lied.


Wrong again bozo. This is what I said:

"I think so... it was call paratech or something like that. Then, there
was
a
drogue that hangs off the back. So, I guess you can either point into the
wind or slow down going down wind."

So, who's the liar? Not you. You're just an idiot.


"I saw parachutes for this at the boat show".

If you added anything else it was after you were schooled on the proper
term. I don't read every post you type and you certainly didn't quote it
in this thread.

As I said, you're a liar. Oh wait... you're just an idiot.


Oh Plumie! Nobody, save Harry, JPS and Donny G A S what you say, do, or
think. You are just here trolling for an arguement. When you lose, you
just have a hissy fit and call names. GO AWAY, PLEASE.

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On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 20:46:58 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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Seems like unless you're close to shore, you really don't
need
a
lot
of
engine power. Maybe in a storm, but wouldn't the concern be
running
the
engine without intake water or running out of fuel if you run
it
too
long?
I'm mean that's why it's a sailboat... to sail.





There are two times when you need power on a sailboat: Bad
weather
and
good weather.

Most cruising sailboats spend more than 90% of their time
underway
with the engine running. Either the wind is from the wrong
direction,
too weak or too strong.





I thought most sailboats spend more than 90% of their time
sitting
in
a
berth or anchored. :)

Why would you need to run the engine offshore when there's lots
of
wind?
Seems like it wouldn't help that much. I can understand needing
to
get
away
from a shoreline, but in the middle of an ocean? If it's really
that
bad,
wouldn't you want to try and slow the boat? I saw parachutes
for
this
at
the
boat show.






Did you see sea anchors?




Didn't see them, but certainly heard about them.





If you saw parachutes to slow a boat you saw sea anchors.



So, a drogue is never called a sea anchor? That's not what I was
told.




When did you ever use that word? Parachute was your choice and you
were
corrected by other people than me.

Google first - not later.


I also used the word drogue. Yes, you're an ass.




No you didn't. If you had, you wouldn't have received the responses
that
you did. Nice try, but you lied.


Wrong again bozo. This is what I said:

"I think so... it was call paratech or something like that. Then, there
was
a
drogue that hangs off the back. So, I guess you can either point into
the
wind or slow down going down wind."

So, who's the liar? Not you. You're just an idiot.


"I saw parachutes for this at the boat show".

If you added anything else it was after you were schooled on the proper
term. I don't read every post you type and you certainly didn't quote
it
in this thread.

As I said, you're a liar. Oh wait... you're just an idiot.


Oh Plumie! Nobody, save Harry, JPS and Donny G A S what you say, do, or
think. You are just here trolling for an arguement. When you lose, you
just have a hissy fit and call names. GO AWAY, PLEASE.


Apparently you do... sorry, but you're here with me, not the other way
around. You GO AWAY.

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Seems like unless you're close to shore, you really don't
need
a
lot
of
engine power. Maybe in a storm, but wouldn't the concern be
running
the
engine without intake water or running out of fuel if you run
it
too
long?
I'm mean that's why it's a sailboat... to sail.





There are two times when you need power on a sailboat: Bad
weather
and
good weather.

Most cruising sailboats spend more than 90% of their time
underway
with the engine running. Either the wind is from the wrong
direction,
too weak or too strong.





I thought most sailboats spend more than 90% of their time
sitting
in
a
berth or anchored. :)

Why would you need to run the engine offshore when there's lots
of
wind?
Seems like it wouldn't help that much. I can understand needing
to
get
away
from a shoreline, but in the middle of an ocean? If it's really
that
bad,
wouldn't you want to try and slow the boat? I saw parachutes
for
this
at
the
boat show.






Did you see sea anchors?




Didn't see them, but certainly heard about them.





If you saw parachutes to slow a boat you saw sea anchors.



So, a drogue is never called a sea anchor? That's not what I was
told.




When did you ever use that word? Parachute was your choice and you
were
corrected by other people than me.

Google first - not later.


I also used the word drogue. Yes, you're an ass.




No you didn't. If you had, you wouldn't have received the responses
that
you did. Nice try, but you lied.


Wrong again bozo. This is what I said:

"I think so... it was call paratech or something like that. Then, there
was
a
drogue that hangs off the back. So, I guess you can either point into
the
wind or slow down going down wind."

So, who's the liar? Not you. You're just an idiot.


"I saw parachutes for this at the boat show".

If you added anything else it was after you were schooled on the proper
term. I don't read every post you type and you certainly didn't quote
it
in this thread.

As I said, you're a liar. Oh wait... you're just an idiot.


Oh Plumie! Nobody, save Harry, JPS and Donny G A S what you say, do, or
think. You are just here trolling for an arguement. When you lose, you
just have a hissy fit and call names. GO AWAY, PLEASE.


Apparently you do... sorry, but you're here with me, not the other way
around. You GO AWAY.


I have about as much regard for you as bugs and weeds, like I said before.

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On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 20:46:58 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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Seems like unless you're close to shore, you really don't
need
a
lot
of
engine power. Maybe in a storm, but wouldn't the concern be
running
the
engine without intake water or running out of fuel if you
run
it
too
long?
I'm mean that's why it's a sailboat... to sail.





There are two times when you need power on a sailboat: Bad
weather
and
good weather.

Most cruising sailboats spend more than 90% of their time
underway
with the engine running. Either the wind is from the wrong
direction,
too weak or too strong.





I thought most sailboats spend more than 90% of their time
sitting
in
a
berth or anchored. :)

Why would you need to run the engine offshore when there's
lots
of
wind?
Seems like it wouldn't help that much. I can understand
needing
to
get
away
from a shoreline, but in the middle of an ocean? If it's
really
that
bad,
wouldn't you want to try and slow the boat? I saw parachutes
for
this
at
the
boat show.






Did you see sea anchors?




Didn't see them, but certainly heard about them.





If you saw parachutes to slow a boat you saw sea anchors.



So, a drogue is never called a sea anchor? That's not what I was
told.




When did you ever use that word? Parachute was your choice and
you
were
corrected by other people than me.

Google first - not later.


I also used the word drogue. Yes, you're an ass.




No you didn't. If you had, you wouldn't have received the responses
that
you did. Nice try, but you lied.


Wrong again bozo. This is what I said:

"I think so... it was call paratech or something like that. Then,
there
was
a
drogue that hangs off the back. So, I guess you can either point into
the
wind or slow down going down wind."

So, who's the liar? Not you. You're just an idiot.


"I saw parachutes for this at the boat show".

If you added anything else it was after you were schooled on the
proper
term. I don't read every post you type and you certainly didn't quote
it
in this thread.

As I said, you're a liar. Oh wait... you're just an idiot.


Oh Plumie! Nobody, save Harry, JPS and Donny G A S what you say, do, or
think. You are just here trolling for an arguement. When you lose, you
just have a hissy fit and call names. GO AWAY, PLEASE.


Apparently you do... sorry, but you're here with me, not the other way
around. You GO AWAY.


I have about as much regard for you as bugs and weeds, like I said before.


Yet you live with them? Hmm...

Cruising and reality
 

nom=de=plume wrote:

Wrong again bozo. This is what I said:

"I think so... it was call paratech or something like that. Then, there
was
a
drogue that hangs off the back. So, I guess you can either point into the
wind or slow down going down wind."

So, who's the liar? Not you. You're just an idiot.



"I saw parachutes for this at the boat show".

If you added anything else it was after you were schooled on the proper
term. I don't read every post you type and you certainly didn't quote it
in this thread.

As I said, you're a liar. Oh wait... you're just an idiot.



If that's the best you have then move on...

Cruising and reality
 

anon-e-moose wrote:
On 4/28/2010 10:57 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
...

nom=de=plume wrote:

wrote in message
...


nom=de=plume wrote:


wrote in message
...



nom=de=plume wrote:



wrote in message
...




nom=de=plume wrote:




wrote in
message
...





On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 20:46:58 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:






Seems like unless you're close to shore, you really don't
need
a
lot
of
engine power. Maybe in a storm, but wouldn't the concern be
running
the
engine without intake water or running out of fuel if you
run
it
too
long?
I'm mean that's why it's a sailboat... to sail.





There are two times when you need power on a sailboat: Bad
weather
and
good weather.

Most cruising sailboats spend more than 90% of their time
underway
with the engine running. Either the wind is from the wrong
direction,
too weak or too strong.





I thought most sailboats spend more than 90% of their time
sitting
in
a
berth or anchored. :)

Why would you need to run the engine offshore when there's
lots
of
wind?
Seems like it wouldn't help that much. I can understand
needing
to
get
away
from a shoreline, but in the middle of an ocean? If it's
really
that
bad,
wouldn't you want to try and slow the boat? I saw
parachutes for
this
at
the
boat show.






Did you see sea anchors?




Didn't see them, but certainly heard about them.





If you saw parachutes to slow a boat you saw sea anchors.



So, a drogue is never called a sea anchor? That's not what I was
told.




When did you ever use that word? Parachute was your choice and you
were
corrected by other people than me.

Google first - not later.


I also used the word drogue. Yes, you're an ass.




No you didn't. If you had, you wouldn't have received the responses
that
you did. Nice try, but you lied.


Wrong again bozo. This is what I said:

"I think so... it was call paratech or something like that. Then,
there
was
a
drogue that hangs off the back. So, I guess you can either point
into the
wind or slow down going down wind."

So, who's the liar? Not you. You're just an idiot.


"I saw parachutes for this at the boat show".

If you added anything else it was after you were schooled on the proper
term. I don't read every post you type and you certainly didn't
quote it
in this thread.

As I said, you're a liar. Oh wait... you're just an idiot.


Oh Plumie! Nobody, save Harry, JPS and Donny G A S what you say, do,
or think. You are just here trolling for an arguement. When you lose,
you just have a hissy fit and call names. GO AWAY, PLEASE.
Well said.

Cruising and reality
 

nom=de=plume wrote:

Oh Plumie! Nobody, save Harry, JPS and Donny G A S what you say, do, or
think. You are just here trolling for an arguement. When you lose, you
just have a hissy fit and call names. GO AWAY, PLEASE.


Apparently you do... sorry, but you're here with me, not the other way
around. You GO AWAY.



I have about as much regard for you as bugs and weeds, like I said before.


Yet you live with them? Hmm...



That was just dumb.

Cruising and reality
 

"Larry" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:

Oh Plumie! Nobody, save Harry, JPS and Donny G A S what you say, do,
or
think. You are just here trolling for an arguement. When you lose, you
just have a hissy fit and call names. GO AWAY, PLEASE.


Apparently you do... sorry, but you're here with me, not the other way
around. You GO AWAY.



I have about as much regard for you as bugs and weeds, like I said
before.


Yet you live with them? Hmm...



That was just dumb.


Well, I'm not perfect!

Cruising and reality
 

"Larry" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:

Wrong again bozo. This is what I said:

"I think so... it was call paratech or something like that. Then, there
was
a
drogue that hangs off the back. So, I guess you can either point into
the
wind or slow down going down wind."

So, who's the liar? Not you. You're just an idiot.



"I saw parachutes for this at the boat show".

If you added anything else it was after you were schooled on the proper
term. I don't read every post you type and you certainly didn't quote
it
in this thread.

As I said, you're a liar. Oh wait... you're just an idiot.



If that's the best you have then move on...


It's better than being a liar/idiot. I think I'll stay.

Cruising and reality
 

On Apr 29, 10:03*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Larry" wrote in message

...



nom=de=plume wrote:

Oh Plumie! Nobody, save Harry, JPS and Donny G A S what you say, do,
or
think. You are just here trolling for an arguement. When you lose, you
just have a hissy fit and call names. GO AWAY, PLEASE.

Apparently you do... sorry, but you're here with me, not the other way
around. You GO AWAY.

I have about as much regard for you as bugs and weeds, like I said
before.

Yet you live with them? Hmm...

That was just dumb.

Well, I'm not perfect!

When did you come to that realization, D'Plume? Twenty seconds ago?

Cruising and reality
 

On Apr 29, 10:03*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Larry" wrote in message

...



nom=de=plume wrote:

Wrong again bozo. This is what I said:

"I think so... it was call paratech or something like that. Then, there
was
a
drogue that hangs off the back. So, I guess you can either point into
the
wind or slow down going down wind."

So, who's the liar? Not you. You're just an idiot.

"I saw parachutes for this at the boat show".

If you added anything else it was after you were schooled on the proper
term. *I don't read every post you type and you certainly didn't quote
it
in this thread.

As I said, you're a liar. Oh wait... you're just an idiot.

If that's the best you have then move on...

It's better than being a liar/idiot. I think I'll stay.

No d'Plume. you are not a liar/idiot. You simply will never be average.

Cruising and reality
 

On Apr 28, 9:57*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Larry" wrote in message

...



nom=de=plume wrote:
*wrote in message
om...

nom=de=plume wrote:

* wrote in message
...

nom=de=plume wrote:

* *wrote in message
...

nom=de=plume wrote:

* * wrote in message
news:4Jidnekfrrb72VPWnZ2dnUVZ_rY3t52d@giga news.com...

nom=de=plume wrote:

* * *wrote in message
news:8qlqs51e0h16k9qpti9oob9kcl5ig4mma2@ 4ax.com...

On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 20:46:58 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
* * *wrote:

Seems like unless you're close to shore, you really don't need
a
lot
of
engine power. Maybe in a storm, but wouldn't the concern be
running
the
engine without intake water or running out of fuel if you run
it
too
long?
I'm mean that's why it's a sailboat... to sail.

There are two times when you need power on a sailboat: Bad
weather
and
good weather.

Most cruising sailboats spend more than 90% of their time
underway
with the engine running. *Either the wind is from the wrong
direction,
too weak or too strong.

I thought most sailboats spend more than 90% of their time
sitting
in
a
berth or anchored. :)

Why would you need to run the engine offshore when there's lots
of
wind?
Seems like it wouldn't help that much. I can understand needing
to
get
away
from a shoreline, but in the middle of an ocean? If it's really
that
bad,
wouldn't you want to try and slow the boat? I saw parachutes for
this
at
the
boat show.

Did you see sea anchors?

Didn't see them, but certainly heard about them.

If you saw parachutes to slow a boat you saw sea anchors.

So, a drogue is never called a sea anchor? That's not what I was
told.

When did you ever use that word? *Parachute was your choice and you
were
corrected by other people than me.

Google first - not later.

I also used the word drogue. Yes, you're an ass.

No you didn't. *If you had, you wouldn't have received the responses
that
you did. *Nice try, but you lied.

Wrong again bozo. This is what I said:

"I think so... it was call paratech or something like that. Then, there
was
a
drogue that hangs off the back. So, I guess you can either point into the
wind or slow down going down wind."

So, who's the liar? Not you. You're just an idiot.

"I saw parachutes for this at the boat show".

If you added anything else it was after you were schooled on the proper
term. *I don't read every post you type and you certainly didn't quote it
in this thread.

As I said, you're a liar. Oh wait... you're just an idiot.

Though it fails miserably, your mind certainly makes a valiant
attempt to catch up with itself, D'Plume.

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.b... h+this+group

Cruising and reality
 

On 4/29/2010 11:03 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:

Wrong again bozo. This is what I said:

"I think so... it was call paratech or something like that. Then, there
was
a
drogue that hangs off the back. So, I guess you can either point into
the
wind or slow down going down wind."

So, who's the liar? Not you. You're just an idiot.



"I saw parachutes for this at the boat show".

If you added anything else it was after you were schooled on the proper
term. I don't read every post you type and you certainly didn't quote
it
in this thread.

As I said, you're a liar. Oh wait... you're just an idiot.



If that's the best you have then move on...


It's better than being a liar/idiot. I think I'll stay.


How is being here with us enriching your life?

Cruising and reality
 

On 4/30/2010 12:59 AM, TopBassDog wrote:
On Apr 29, 10:03 pm, wrote:
wrote in message

...



nom=de=plume wrote:

Oh Plumie! Nobody, save Harry, JPS and Donny G A S what you say, do,
or
think. You are just here trolling for an arguement. When you lose, you
just have a hissy fit and call names. GO AWAY, PLEASE.

Apparently you do... sorry, but you're here with me, not the other way
around. You GO AWAY.

I have about as much regard for you as bugs and weeds, like I said
before.

Yet you live with them? Hmm...

That was just dumb.

Well, I'm not perfect!

When did you come to that realization, D'Plume? Twenty seconds ago?
Perfect? No way. Plume is struggling to be average.

Cruising and reality
 

"anon-e-moose" wrote in message
...
On 4/30/2010 12:59 AM, TopBassDog wrote:
On Apr 29, 10:03 pm, wrote:
wrote in message

...



nom=de=plume wrote:

Oh Plumie! Nobody, save Harry, JPS and Donny G A S what you say,
do,
or
think. You are just here trolling for an arguement. When you lose,
you
just have a hissy fit and call names. GO AWAY, PLEASE.

Apparently you do... sorry, but you're here with me, not the other
way
around. You GO AWAY.

I have about as much regard for you as bugs and weeds, like I said
before.

Yet you live with them? Hmm...

That was just dumb.

Well, I'm not perfect!

When did you come to that realization, D'Plume? Twenty seconds ago?
Perfect? No way. Plume is struggling to be average.


You two are trying to out do each other in stupidity. Keep at it. One of you
has gotta have a bigger penis.

Cruising and reality
 

"anon-e-moose" wrote in message
...
On 4/29/2010 11:03 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:

Wrong again bozo. This is what I said:

"I think so... it was call paratech or something like that. Then,
there
was
a
drogue that hangs off the back. So, I guess you can either point into
the
wind or slow down going down wind."

So, who's the liar? Not you. You're just an idiot.



"I saw parachutes for this at the boat show".

If you added anything else it was after you were schooled on the
proper
term. I don't read every post you type and you certainly didn't quote
it
in this thread.

As I said, you're a liar. Oh wait... you're just an idiot.



If that's the best you have then move on...


It's better than being a liar/idiot. I think I'll stay.


How is being here with us enriching your life?


How is replying to every post I make enriching yours?

Cruising and reality
 

nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
...

nom=de=plume wrote:

Oh Plumie! Nobody, save Harry, JPS and Donny G A S what you say, do,
or
think. You are just here trolling for an arguement. When you lose, you
just have a hissy fit and call names. GO AWAY, PLEASE.


Apparently you do... sorry, but you're here with me, not the other way
around. You GO AWAY.




I have about as much regard for you as bugs and weeds, like I said
before.


Yet you live with them? Hmm...




That was just dumb.


Well, I'm not perfect!



True.

Cruising and reality
 

"Larry" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
...

nom=de=plume wrote:

Oh Plumie! Nobody, save Harry, JPS and Donny G A S what you say, do,
or
think. You are just here trolling for an arguement. When you lose,
you
just have a hissy fit and call names. GO AWAY, PLEASE.


Apparently you do... sorry, but you're here with me, not the other
way
around. You GO AWAY.




I have about as much regard for you as bugs and weeds, like I said
before.


Yet you live with them? Hmm...




That was just dumb.


Well, I'm not perfect!



True.


But you are, right? You're perfect. No flaws. You're a perfect jerk.

Cruising and reality
 

On May 1, 12:48*am, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Larry" wrote in message

...



nom=de=plume wrote:
*wrote in message
...

nom=de=plume wrote:

Oh Plumie! Nobody, save Harry, JPS and Donny G A S what you say, do,
or
think. You are just here trolling for an arguement. When you lose,
you
just have a hissy fit and call names. GO AWAY, PLEASE.

Apparently you do... sorry, but you're here with me, not the other
way
around. You GO AWAY.

I have about as much regard for you as bugs and weeds, like I said
before.

Yet you live with them? Hmm...

That was just dumb.

Well, I'm not perfect!

True.

But you are, right? You're perfect. No flaws. You're a perfect jerk.

Feel better now, D'Plume?

How was the cookie?

Cruising and reality
 

On Apr 30, 12:51*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"anon-e-moose" wrote in message

...



On 4/30/2010 12:59 AM, TopBassDog wrote:
On Apr 29, 10:03 pm, *wrote:
*wrote in message

...

nom=de=plume wrote:

Oh Plumie! Nobody, save Harry, JPS and Donny G A S what you say,
do,
or
think. You are just here trolling for an arguement. When you lose,
you
just have a hissy fit and call names. GO AWAY, PLEASE.

Apparently you do... sorry, but you're here with me, not the other
way
around. You GO AWAY.

I have about as much regard for you as bugs and weeds, like I said
before.

Yet you live with them? Hmm...

That was just dumb.

Well, I'm not perfect!

When did you come to that realization, D'Plume? Twenty seconds ago?
Perfect? No way. Plume is struggling to be average.

You two are trying to out do each other in stupidity. Keep at it. One of you
has gotta have a bigger penis.

And you're jealous because you don't have one, D''Plume.

Cruising and reality
 

On 5/1/2010 6:43 AM, TopBassDog wrote:
On Apr 30, 12:51 pm, wrote:
wrote in message

...



On 4/30/2010 12:59 AM, TopBassDog wrote:
On Apr 29, 10:03 pm, wrote:
wrote in message

...

nom=de=plume wrote:

Oh Plumie! Nobody, save Harry, JPS and Donny G A S what you say,
do,
or
think. You are just here trolling for an arguement. When you lose,
you
just have a hissy fit and call names. GO AWAY, PLEASE.

Apparently you do... sorry, but you're here with me, not the other
way
around. You GO AWAY.

I have about as much regard for you as bugs and weeds, like I said
before.

Yet you live with them? Hmm...

That was just dumb.

Well, I'm not perfect!

When did you come to that realization, D'Plume? Twenty seconds ago?
Perfect? No way. Plume is struggling to be average.

You two are trying to out do each other in stupidity. Keep at it. One of you
has gotta have a bigger penis.

And you're jealous because you don't have one, D''Plume.

She was probably born with one. Wonder what happened?

Cruising and reality
 

"TopBassDog" wrote in message
...
On Apr 30, 12:51 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"anon-e-moose" wrote in message

...



On 4/30/2010 12:59 AM, TopBassDog wrote:
On Apr 29, 10:03 pm, wrote:
wrote in message

...

nom=de=plume wrote:

Oh Plumie! Nobody, save Harry, JPS and Donny G A S what you say,
do,
or
think. You are just here trolling for an arguement. When you
lose,
you
just have a hissy fit and call names. GO AWAY, PLEASE.

Apparently you do... sorry, but you're here with me, not the other
way
around. You GO AWAY.

I have about as much regard for you as bugs and weeds, like I said
before.

Yet you live with them? Hmm...

That was just dumb.

Well, I'm not perfect!

When did you come to that realization, D'Plume? Twenty seconds ago?
Perfect? No way. Plume is struggling to be average.

You two are trying to out do each other in stupidity. Keep at it. One of
you
has gotta have a bigger penis.

And you're jealous because you don't have one, D''Plume.


Are you?

Cruising and reality
 

"TopBassDog" wrote in message
...
On May 1, 12:48 am, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Larry" wrote in message

...



nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
...

nom=de=plume wrote:

Oh Plumie! Nobody, save Harry, JPS and Donny G A S what you say,
do,
or
think. You are just here trolling for an arguement. When you lose,
you
just have a hissy fit and call names. GO AWAY, PLEASE.

Apparently you do... sorry, but you're here with me, not the other
way
around. You GO AWAY.

I have about as much regard for you as bugs and weeds, like I said
before.

Yet you live with them? Hmm...

That was just dumb.

Well, I'm not perfect!

True.

But you are, right? You're perfect. No flaws. You're a perfect jerk.

Feel better now, D'Plume?

How was the cookie?


My error. You're a perfect jerk off.

Cruising and reality
 

On 01/05/2010 4:39 AM, TopBassDog wrote:
On May 1, 12:48 am, wrote:
wrote in message

...



nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
...

nom=de=plume wrote:

Oh Plumie! Nobody, save Harry, JPS and Donny G A S what you say, do,
or
think. You are just here trolling for an arguement. When you lose,
you
just have a hissy fit and call names. GO AWAY, PLEASE.

Apparently you do... sorry, but you're here with me, not the other
way
around. You GO AWAY.

I have about as much regard for you as bugs and weeds, like I said
before.

Yet you live with them? Hmm...

That was just dumb.

Well, I'm not perfect!

True.

But you are, right? You're perfect. No flaws. You're a perfect jerk.

Feel better now, D'Plume?

How was the cookie?

She became distracted by the cucumber.

--
Are we being heard or are we a herd?

Cruising and reality
 

"Canuck57" wrote in message
...
On 01/05/2010 4:39 AM, TopBassDog wrote:
On May 1, 12:48 am, wrote:
wrote in message

...



nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
...

nom=de=plume wrote:

Oh Plumie! Nobody, save Harry, JPS and Donny G A S what you say,
do,
or
think. You are just here trolling for an arguement. When you
lose,
you
just have a hissy fit and call names. GO AWAY, PLEASE.

Apparently you do... sorry, but you're here with me, not the other
way
around. You GO AWAY.

I have about as much regard for you as bugs and weeds, like I said
before.

Yet you live with them? Hmm...

That was just dumb.

Well, I'm not perfect!

True.

But you are, right? You're perfect. No flaws. You're a perfect jerk.

Feel better now, D'Plume?

How was the cookie?

She became distracted by the cucumber.

--
Are we being heard or are we a herd?


Is that what you use? I'd suggest washing it off first!

Cruising and reality
 

nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
...

nom=de=plume wrote:

wrote in message
...


nom=de=plume wrote:


Oh Plumie! Nobody, save Harry, JPS and Donny G A S what you say, do,
or
think. You are just here trolling for an arguement. When you lose,
you
just have a hissy fit and call names. GO AWAY, PLEASE.



Apparently you do... sorry, but you're here with me, not the other
way
around. You GO AWAY.





I have about as much regard for you as bugs and weeds, like I said
before.



Yet you live with them? Hmm...





That was just dumb.


Well, I'm not perfect!




True.


But you are, right? You're perfect. No flaws. You're a perfect jerk.



You stay up all night and read this crap to post THAT response?

Cruising and reality
 

nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
...

On 01/05/2010 4:39 AM, TopBassDog wrote:

On May 1, 12:48 am, wrote:

wrote in message

...




nom=de=plume wrote:

wrote in message
...


nom=de=plume wrote:


Oh Plumie! Nobody, save Harry, JPS and Donny G A S what you say,
do,
or
think. You are just here trolling for an arguement. When you
lose,
you
just have a hissy fit and call names. GO AWAY, PLEASE.


Apparently you do... sorry, but you're here with me, not the other
way
around. You GO AWAY.


I have about as much regard for you as bugs and weeds, like I said
before.


Yet you live with them? Hmm...


That was just dumb.


Well, I'm not perfect!


True.

But you are, right? You're perfect. No flaws. You're a perfect jerk.

Feel better now, D'Plume?

How was the cookie?

She became distracted by the cucumber.

--
Are we being heard or are we a herd?


Is that what you use? I'd suggest washing it off first!



So you have experience with that?

Cruising and reality
 

On 01/05/2010 4:41 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
...
On 01/05/2010 4:39 AM, TopBassDog wrote:
On May 1, 12:48 am, wrote:
wrote in message

...



nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
...

nom=de=plume wrote:

Oh Plumie! Nobody, save Harry, JPS and Donny G A S what you say,
do,
or
think. You are just here trolling for an arguement. When you
lose,
you
just have a hissy fit and call names. GO AWAY, PLEASE.

Apparently you do... sorry, but you're here with me, not the other
way
around. You GO AWAY.

I have about as much regard for you as bugs and weeds, like I said
before.

Yet you live with them? Hmm...

That was just dumb.

Well, I'm not perfect!

True.

But you are, right? You're perfect. No flaws. You're a perfect jerk.

Feel better now, D'Plume?

How was the cookie?

She became distracted by the cucumber.


Is that what you use? I'd suggest washing it off first!

My wife ;) No washing neccessary. Self clean. But if you don't
understand, not my problem.

--
Are we being heard or are we a herd?

Cruising and reality
 

"Larry" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
...

On 01/05/2010 4:39 AM, TopBassDog wrote:

On May 1, 12:48 am, wrote:

wrote in message

...




nom=de=plume wrote:

wrote in message
...


nom=de=plume wrote:


Oh Plumie! Nobody, save Harry, JPS and Donny G A S what you
say,
do,
or
think. You are just here trolling for an arguement. When you
lose,
you
just have a hissy fit and call names. GO AWAY, PLEASE.


Apparently you do... sorry, but you're here with me, not the
other
way
around. You GO AWAY.


I have about as much regard for you as bugs and weeds, like I
said
before.


Yet you live with them? Hmm...


That was just dumb.


Well, I'm not perfect!


True.

But you are, right? You're perfect. No flaws. You're a perfect jerk.

Feel better now, D'Plume?

How was the cookie?

She became distracted by the cucumber.

--
Are we being heard or are we a herd?


Is that what you use? I'd suggest washing it off first!



So you have experience with that?


Apparently, you're the one with experience with things up your butt. You
keep mentioning them.

Cruising and reality
 

"Canuck57" wrote in message
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On 01/05/2010 4:41 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
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On 01/05/2010 4:39 AM, TopBassDog wrote:
On May 1, 12:48 am, wrote:
wrote in message

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nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
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nom=de=plume wrote:

Oh Plumie! Nobody, save Harry, JPS and Donny G A S what you
say,
do,
or
think. You are just here trolling for an arguement. When you
lose,
you
just have a hissy fit and call names. GO AWAY, PLEASE.

Apparently you do... sorry, but you're here with me, not the
other
way
around. You GO AWAY.

I have about as much regard for you as bugs and weeds, like I
said
before.

Yet you live with them? Hmm...

That was just dumb.

Well, I'm not perfect!

True.

But you are, right? You're perfect. No flaws. You're a perfect jerk.

Feel better now, D'Plume?

How was the cookie?

She became distracted by the cucumber.


Is that what you use? I'd suggest washing it off first!

My wife ;) No washing neccessary. Self clean. But if you don't
understand, not my problem.

--
Are we being heard or are we a herd?


I doubt you "use" your wife. But, I'm sure your lizard brain is full to
capacity.