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On 12/04/2010 11:57 PM, Bill McKee wrote:
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On 12/04/2010 3:37 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 10:44:06 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch


Real Americans support capitalism and buy Toyotas, Statists buy
Government Motors.

really? if unregulated capitalism is so great...

why isn't lehman brothers around to tell us? what happened to the 9
trillion in 401K's and other investments that wall street told us
were
safe?

Lehman isn't arround as they didn't have the right super rich
depositors
that Obama, democrat congress and Bush wanted to bailout.

ROFLMAO!!! lehman collapsed under BUSH!! they collapsed because the
free market folks followed YOUR idea...and that led immediately to the
threat of a meltdown.

so your idea is just plain...stupid.


Carlyle got Lehman's assets for a penny on the dollar, which is where
a
lot of the bailout money disappeared to. Even at 10 cents on the
dollar
for the Lehamn bonds Carlyle made a bundle. You should look up
Carlyle
Groups relationship with the ultra rich and GM.

you should look up the market crash of 29. might learn something


Lehman crashed for a couple reasons. Bush may have helped. So did the
previous couple administrations. And why did Goldman Sachs get bailed
out
for 100 cents on the dollar and Lehman get 1 cent on the dollar? Those
nasty Bush advisors that came out of GS looking after their portfolios
and
their buddies. Oh, by the way they are Obama's advisors also. Does not
seem to be limited to Republican Presidents. Some were Clinton advisors
also.
Goldman Sachs


You only had to look at the top ten cash depositors in each to see why
one survived and the other did not. Yep, while Bush started bailouts,
the Obama is the king of bailouts and debt-spending, not limited to
either party.

That is why a Tea Party, they know most representatives are not in line
with what is best for the average American.

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Goldman Sachs is also the biggest owner of the Federal Reserve.



More right wing BS.

http://www.federalreserve.gov/genera...q/faqfrs.htm#5


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On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 13:36:51 -0700, "Bill McKee"
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On Apr 12, 1:08 pm, John H wrote:
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On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 09:01:24 -0700 (PDT), Jack
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Many people love their Hondas, but the one Honda I've owned was the
most troublesome car I've owned.


I had 2 Hondas that were pretty good and not hard to work on but my
current Prelude needs a timing belt and the first line in the shop
manual instructions to replace this belt is "remove engine".
This is the kind of engineering that GM would be proud of (similar to
the old Nova V-8 that required you to loosen a motor mount and raise
the engine to get to one of the spark plugs).
The difference is, this is not some 4 cylinder econobox that they
tried to cram a V-8 in. This car came off the drawing board this way.
BTW Honda will do it for $1000.


I once had a '67 MGB GT. I bought it with a bad clutch, but got it for
$150,
which was a pretty good deal.

The first step in replacing the clutch was, "Remove engine". I know how
you
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Yeah, but the old MG's and Triumphs were made to be worked on, you
could take the engine out in a couple of hours! Had two Triumphs,
first a 59 TR-4A that I restored and sold, then a bug eyed Sprite that
I didn't get around to restoring when someone out of the blue bought
it.

They were made so you had to work on them. 1/2" head stud on a TR4 with the
strengh of a 1/4" stud. Crap like that.


Working on the MG was a weekly event. Something *always* needed doing.
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On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 06:54:22 -0600, Canuck57
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On 13/04/2010 4:05 AM, bpuharic wrote:
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i don't have the time to work AND to watch wall street. so now it's
time to **** wall street and regulate the **** out of them


Bull****! You have nothing but excuses.


and YOU have nothing but bitches.


At least he is trying to amke things better.


OK i give up.

how does standing around with your thumb up your ass bitching 'make
things better'? in right wing theology i suppose that happens, but to
the sane world, it just looks like you're bitching

You just want to squat and
pee expecting something for nothing. The always everyone elses fault
but mine disease.


really? then why is it dems who reduce the deficits, increase middle
class salaries, while the GOP gives us unemployment and rewards the
rich?...allt he while you bitch




really? your arguments are so thoughless and cliche filled it takes
about 10 seconds to dispose of them...no longer than a dirty diaper


You are your own limitation and handycap.


if so, let me become a republican. i'll be a superstar

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really? your arguments are so thoughless and cliche filled it takes
about 10 seconds to dispose of them...no longer than a dirty diaper



Excuses. More excuses.


ROFLMAO!!! you guys do nothing but bitch about obama with NO solutions
of your own and you say i have excuses??? we just got healthcare
passed...guess you forgot about that....

HAHAHHAAHAHAH!!!

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Good points, real good points. Used to be that you would have to go to
Amazon and spend a few hundred. Today you can get it all on the
internet in seconds. But still would recommend reading a few books.
And discount brokers are sure a lot better than the old style brokerages
of the 80's and even early 90's. But still, a good place for a novice
to start.

No excuses except for the lack of dicipline. Inability to learn isn't
other peoples problems.



dontcha love the right?

100,000,000 hard working middle class americans get screwed by wall
street because the right said the free market is infallible and always
works.

when it's shown they're wrong

they blame it on the middle class....

a perfect argument

the rich are never wrong

and when they're wrong...they're never wrong


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so your idea is just plain...stupid.

You only had to look at the top ten cash depositors in each to see why
one survived and the other did not. Yep, while Bush started bailouts,
the Obama is the king of bailouts and debt-spending, not limited to
either party.


guess you forgot one thing:

you have no solutions. all you do is bitch. you're a failure

That is why a Tea Party, they know most representatives are not in line
with what is best for the average American.


the tea baggers know nothing. they think wall street is perfect

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He doesn't have any rich buddies. He might have drinking buddies... might.


he thinks they're rich if they buy him a drink...

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really? your arguments are so thoughless and cliche filled it takes
about 10 seconds to dispose of them...no longer than a dirty diaper



Excuses. More excuses.


ROFLMAO!!! you guys do nothing but bitch about obama with NO solutions
of your own and you say i have excuses??? we just got healthcare
passed...guess you forgot about that....

HAHAHHAAHAHAH!!!


We got healthcare passed? Where does it provide healthcare. Provides that
everyone will need to be insured. Does not provide any healthcare.


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Good points, real good points. Used to be that you would have to go to
Amazon and spend a few hundred. Today you can get it all on the
internet in seconds. But still would recommend reading a few books.
And discount brokers are sure a lot better than the old style brokerages
of the 80's and even early 90's. But still, a good place for a novice
to start.

No excuses except for the lack of dicipline. Inability to learn isn't
other peoples problems.



dontcha love the right?

100,000,000 hard working middle class americans get screwed by wall
street because the right said the free market is infallible and always
works.

when it's shown they're wrong

they blame it on the middle class....

a perfect argument

the rich are never wrong

and when they're wrong...they're never wrong


http://www.fool.com/investing/genera...e-economy.aspx

Notice who started the deregulation.


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On 4/12/10 11:26 PM, Jack wrote:
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Tell that to my ex wife, who worked for GM at the Lordstown OH plant.
She's told me the stories about how the workers used to screw GM over
for fun, and then sit back and let the union save their jobs, again
and again. She intentionally shut down the line one day, and GM
couldn't fire her. She knew that, and she and the rest of the union
pukes took full advantage of it. There's your quality control, and
why GM lost another 4.8 billion in the last 6 months.


Uh-huh...sure, Jack. Of course.


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About 50 years ago, I worked for Western Electric. In the warehouse.
CWA
member. A worse than worthless union. Went on strike a while before I
went there for 9 weeks. Settled for what ATT offered before the strike.
But that is an aside. Some of my coworkers were laid off from the
Fremont
GM plant and waiting to be called back to work. They talked about how
they
would throw an old file in the door as a joke. Laughed that the customer
would go crazy trying to find the rattle. Same ones would load up a car
coming down the line for a coworker with every option available. Theft,
out
and out theft. And the union did nothing about these actions. So the
unions are just as guilty as management about screwing the golden goose.



I've read a retelling of that story a zillion times. Did you forget about
the ones with the coke bottle in the door? You boys need to find some
fresher bull****.




Can't handle the truth? These are statements by my coworkers. That were on
layoff from GM. Even at 18 years old, I knew that was wrong.


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