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On Apr 8, 1:33 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
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On Apr 8, 9:33 am, Loogypicker wrote:



On Apr 7, 9:03 am, "Don White" wrote:

"Frogwatch" wrote in message

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Nom should know about this.
Without any protected way to get from point A to B such as the ICW
on
the east and Gulf coasts, isnt it a bit difficult to sail north up
the
coast? Do people sail northwards near shore or do they all go
WAAAAAAAY offshore?

Since the Gulf Stream turns westward two hundred miles south of
us...we
don't have that worry.
The Labrador current may affect boats up around northern Cape Breton,
but
that's what we have the Bras d'Or lakes for.
Along our 'mainland' coast, people sail where they want to...out far
enough
to avoid dangerous areas but not so far that ducking into numerous
small
harbours for the night is difficult or time consuming.
You'd fit right in up here Froggy...the nicer marinas are few & far
between
along the coast but every small community has a government wharf for
the
commercial fishermen. If you like roughin' it...you could stay
anywhere
at
minimal or no cost for the night.

And this has WHAT to do with sailing up and down the WEST coast of the
continent???
In the late 80s, I spent a lot of time in Santa Barbara, CA and
thought it was wonderful except you could not afford to live there.
The contrast between how I saw Santa Barbara and how Dana saw it in
"Two Years Before the Mast" was huge. For him it was a difficult
place to land with no good anchorage and little civilization. It was
one of his least favorite places whereas he really liked San Diego.

SB is wildly expensive, that's true, but there are places that are more
affordable. San Diego is great too.
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Nom=de=Plume

Wife and I almost considered living aboard a 27' Ericson with our year
old daughter in Santa Barbara, glad we didn't do it.


Last I was there, I talked to a salty looking guy who just came out of the
slip area of the marina. I asked him how much it costs to keep a boat there,
and he reply, "Oh not that much." I pressed him for a ball-park and he said
his was $150K plus dues, but he had a big boat... that is wild.

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Nom=de=Plume

On Apr 8, 2:48*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message

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On Apr 8, 1:33 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:



"Frogwatch" wrote in message

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On Apr 8, 9:33 am, Loogypicker wrote:

On Apr 7, 9:03 am, "Don White" wrote:

"Frogwatch" wrote in message

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Nom should know about this.
Without any protected way to get from point A to B such as the ICW
on
the east and Gulf coasts, isnt it a bit difficult to sail north up
the
coast? Do people sail northwards near shore or do they all go
WAAAAAAAY offshore?

Since the Gulf Stream turns westward two hundred miles south of
us...we
don't have that worry.
The Labrador current may affect boats up around northern Cape Breton,
but
that's what we have the Bras d'Or lakes for.
Along our 'mainland' coast, people sail where they want to...out far
enough
to avoid dangerous areas but not so far that ducking into numerous
small
harbours for the night is difficult or time consuming.
You'd fit right in up here Froggy...the nicer marinas are few & far
between
along the coast but every small community has a government wharf for
the
commercial fishermen. If you like roughin' it...you could stay
anywhere
at
minimal or no cost for the night.

And this has WHAT to do with sailing up and down the WEST coast of the
continent???
In the late 80s, I spent a lot of time in Santa Barbara, CA and
thought it was wonderful except you could not afford to live there.
The contrast between how I saw Santa Barbara and how Dana saw it in
"Two Years Before the Mast" was huge. For him it was a difficult
place to land with no good anchorage and little civilization. It was
one of his least favorite places whereas he really liked San Diego.

SB is wildly expensive, that's true, but there are places that are more
affordable. San Diego is great too.
--
Nom=de=Plume
Wife and I almost considered living aboard a 27' Ericson with our year
old daughter in Santa Barbara, glad we didn't do it.

Last I was there, I talked to a salty looking guy who just came out of the
slip area of the marina. I asked him how much it costs to keep a boat there,
and he reply, "Oh not that much." I pressed him for a ball-park and he said
his was $150K plus dues, but he had a big boat... that is wild.

--
Nom=de=Plume

I know a guy who keeps his boat in the water in SF. He pays more for
a slip than I do for my house.
I spent a lot of time in San Diego, nice town but to be anywhere near
the water is too expensive. Hanging out at LaJolla is nice but
expensive. Torrey Pines State Park is great though. Wife and kids
and I once walked south along the beach from Torrey Pines and came to
Blacks Beach. I got no prob with nude beaches, after all we have
sinkholes here for that, but it seems Blacks beach is used mostly by
Gay men,Not that there's anything wrong with that but you really do
not want your kids to see guys basically jerkin off in public. Today,
the kids remember the cool trail up the cliff at the glider port and
do not remember the nekkid men at all.
San Diego bay has more boats on a weekday than I see all year here in
N. FL.

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
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On Apr 8, 2:48 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message

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On Apr 8, 1:33 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:



"Frogwatch" wrote in message

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On Apr 8, 9:33 am, Loogypicker wrote:

On Apr 7, 9:03 am, "Don White" wrote:

"Frogwatch" wrote in message

...

Nom should know about this.
Without any protected way to get from point A to B such as the ICW
on
the east and Gulf coasts, isnt it a bit difficult to sail north up
the
coast? Do people sail northwards near shore or do they all go
WAAAAAAAY offshore?

Since the Gulf Stream turns westward two hundred miles south of
us...we
don't have that worry.
The Labrador current may affect boats up around northern Cape
Breton,
but
that's what we have the Bras d'Or lakes for.
Along our 'mainland' coast, people sail where they want to...out far
enough
to avoid dangerous areas but not so far that ducking into numerous
small
harbours for the night is difficult or time consuming.
You'd fit right in up here Froggy...the nicer marinas are few & far
between
along the coast but every small community has a government wharf for
the
commercial fishermen. If you like roughin' it...you could stay
anywhere
at
minimal or no cost for the night.

And this has WHAT to do with sailing up and down the WEST coast of the
continent???
In the late 80s, I spent a lot of time in Santa Barbara, CA and
thought it was wonderful except you could not afford to live there.
The contrast between how I saw Santa Barbara and how Dana saw it in
"Two Years Before the Mast" was huge. For him it was a difficult
place to land with no good anchorage and little civilization. It was
one of his least favorite places whereas he really liked San Diego.

SB is wildly expensive, that's true, but there are places that are more
affordable. San Diego is great too.
--
Nom=de=Plume
Wife and I almost considered living aboard a 27' Ericson with our year
old daughter in Santa Barbara, glad we didn't do it.

Last I was there, I talked to a salty looking guy who just came out of the
slip area of the marina. I asked him how much it costs to keep a boat
there,
and he reply, "Oh not that much." I pressed him for a ball-park and he
said
his was $150K plus dues, but he had a big boat... that is wild.

--
Nom=de=Plume

I know a guy who keeps his boat in the water in SF. He pays more for
a slip than I do for my house.

Reply: It must be either a big boat or you have an awfully small house. The
slip fees aren't that bad, according to my friends... not cheap, but not on
par with a mortgage payment of thousands.

I spent a lot of time in San Diego, nice town but to be anywhere near
the water is too expensive. Hanging out at LaJolla is nice but
expensive. Torrey Pines State Park is great though. Wife and kids
and I once walked south along the beach from Torrey Pines and came to
Blacks Beach. I got no prob with nude beaches, after all we have
sinkholes here for that, but it seems Blacks beach is used mostly by
Gay men,Not that there's anything wrong with that but you really do
not want your kids to see guys basically jerkin off in public. Today,
the kids remember the cool trail up the cliff at the glider port and
do not remember the nekkid men at all.
San Diego bay has more boats on a weekday than I see all year here in
N. FL.

Reply: I used to surf Swamis, Trestles, Wind-an-Sea, and Blacks mostly.
Surfed Pt. Loma, but it was a hassle. Never saw any particularly rude
behavior at Blacks at least not for very long, and it usually ended pretty
quickly when the locals saw what was happening. They were pretty protective
of local women. Mostly we had gawkers from the Glider Port. Every once in a
while one would get onto the beach, but they either were mellow or were
asked to leave (not too politely). I lived in Encinitas (mostly) and kept
the Hobie at my friends in Del Mar.

--
Nom=de=Plume

Don White wrote:
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Don White wrote:

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Nom should know about this.
Without any protected way to get from point A to B such as the ICW on
the east and Gulf coasts, isnt it a bit difficult to sail north up the
coast? Do people sail northwards near shore or do they all go
WAAAAAAAY offshore?


Since the Gulf Stream turns westward two hundred miles south of us...we
don't have that worry.
The Labrador current may affect boats up around northern Cape Breton, but
that's what we have the Bras d'Or lakes for.
Along our 'mainland' coast, people sail where they want to...out far
enough
to avoid dangerous areas but not so far that ducking into numerous small
harbours for the night is difficult or time consuming.
You'd fit right in up here Froggy...the nicer marinas are few& far
between
along the coast but every small community has a government wharf for the
commercial fishermen. If you like roughin' it...you could stay anywhere
at
minimal or no cost for the night.




How big is your sailboat, Don?

Try to keep up Dingy. I sold my sailboat& temporarly joined the ranks of
the infernal combustion crowd in the fall of 2007.



2-1/2 years ago? I wasn't here and I certainly wouldn't have saved any
of those posts.

You seem to like adolescent name-calling did you learn it from anyone here?

anon-e-moose wrote:
Larry wrote:
Don White wrote:
wrote in message
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Nom should know about this.
Without any protected way to get from point A to B such as the ICW on
the east and Gulf coasts, isnt it a bit difficult to sail north up the
coast? Do people sail northwards near shore or do they all go
WAAAAAAAY offshore?
Since the Gulf Stream turns westward two hundred miles south of us...we
don't have that worry.
The Labrador current may affect boats up around northern Cape
Breton, but
that's what we have the Bras d'Or lakes for.
Along our 'mainland' coast, people sail where they want to...out far
enough
to avoid dangerous areas but not so far that ducking into numerous
small
harbours for the night is difficult or time consuming.
You'd fit right in up here Froggy...the nicer marinas are few& far
between
along the coast but every small community has a government wharf for
the
commercial fishermen. If you like roughin' it...you could stay
anywhere at
minimal or no cost for the night.


How big is your sailboat, Don?

http://www.sandpiper565.com/



I can't believe that tiny boat has a berth! Who would sleep in that? I
saw the term micro-cruiser yet it sleeps four? Where?

On Apr 8, 5:42*pm, Larry wrote:
anon-e-moose wrote:
Larry wrote:
Don White wrote:
*wrote in message
....

Nom should know about this.
Without any protected way to get from point A to B such as the ICW on
the east and Gulf coasts, isnt it a bit difficult to sail north up the
coast? *Do people sail northwards near shore or do they all go
WAAAAAAAY offshore?
Since the Gulf Stream turns westward two hundred miles south of us...we
don't have that worry.
The Labrador current may affect boats up around northern Cape
Breton, but
that's what we have the Bras d'Or lakes for.
Along our 'mainland' coast, people sail where they want to...out far
enough
to avoid dangerous areas but not so far that ducking into numerous
small
harbours for the night is difficult or time consuming.
You'd fit right in up here Froggy...the nicer marinas are few& *far
between
along the coast but every small community has a government wharf for
the
commercial fishermen. If you like roughin' it...you could stay
anywhere at
minimal or no cost for the night.

How big is your sailboat, Don?

http://www.sandpiper565.com/

I can't believe that tiny boat has a berth! *Who would sleep in that? *I
saw the term micro-cruiser yet it sleeps four? *Where?

My friend had a slip right at the base of the Golden Gate Bridge,
kinda expensive. Here in N. FL, one can get a good house very cheap
and I bought when they were really cheap so my mortgage is probably
about 1/4 of the least expensive place you could get in SF.

"Larry" wrote in message
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Don White wrote:
wrote in message
news
Don White wrote:

wrote in message
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Nom should know about this.
Without any protected way to get from point A to B such as the ICW on
the east and Gulf coasts, isnt it a bit difficult to sail north up the
coast? Do people sail northwards near shore or do they all go
WAAAAAAAY offshore?


Since the Gulf Stream turns westward two hundred miles south of us...we
don't have that worry.
The Labrador current may affect boats up around northern Cape Breton,
but
that's what we have the Bras d'Or lakes for.
Along our 'mainland' coast, people sail where they want to...out far
enough
to avoid dangerous areas but not so far that ducking into numerous
small
harbours for the night is difficult or time consuming.
You'd fit right in up here Froggy...the nicer marinas are few& far
between
along the coast but every small community has a government wharf for
the
commercial fishermen. If you like roughin' it...you could stay anywhere
at
minimal or no cost for the night.




How big is your sailboat, Don?

Try to keep up Dingy. I sold my sailboat& temporarly joined the ranks
of
the infernal combustion crowd in the fall of 2007.



2-1/2 years ago? I wasn't here and I certainly wouldn't have saved any of
those posts.

You seem to like adolescent name-calling did you learn it from anyone
here?

Yeah...from the counter guy at Elite Contractors Supply.

"Larry" wrote in message
...
anon-e-moose wrote:
Larry wrote:
Don White wrote:
wrote in message
...
Nom should know about this.
Without any protected way to get from point A to B such as the ICW on
the east and Gulf coasts, isnt it a bit difficult to sail north up the
coast? Do people sail northwards near shore or do they all go
WAAAAAAAY offshore?
Since the Gulf Stream turns westward two hundred miles south of us...we
don't have that worry.
The Labrador current may affect boats up around northern Cape Breton,
but
that's what we have the Bras d'Or lakes for.
Along our 'mainland' coast, people sail where they want to...out far
enough
to avoid dangerous areas but not so far that ducking into numerous
small
harbours for the night is difficult or time consuming.
You'd fit right in up here Froggy...the nicer marinas are few& far
between
along the coast but every small community has a government wharf for
the
commercial fishermen. If you like roughin' it...you could stay anywhere
at
minimal or no cost for the night.


How big is your sailboat, Don?

http://www.sandpiper565.com/



I can't believe that tiny boat has a berth! Who would sleep in that? I
saw the term micro-cruiser yet it sleeps four? Where?

I spent a three night weekend in it. Up here we like to snuggle with our
women....I suppose in your case they try to pull as far away as possible.

On 4/8/10 9:25 PM, Don White wrote:
wrote in message
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Don White wrote:
wrote in message
news
Don White wrote:

wrote in message
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Nom should know about this.
Without any protected way to get from point A to B such as the ICW on
the east and Gulf coasts, isnt it a bit difficult to sail north up the
coast? Do people sail northwards near shore or do they all go
WAAAAAAAY offshore?


Since the Gulf Stream turns westward two hundred miles south of us...we
don't have that worry.
The Labrador current may affect boats up around northern Cape Breton,
but
that's what we have the Bras d'Or lakes for.
Along our 'mainland' coast, people sail where they want to...out far
enough
to avoid dangerous areas but not so far that ducking into numerous
small
harbours for the night is difficult or time consuming.
You'd fit right in up here Froggy...the nicer marinas are few& far
between
along the coast but every small community has a government wharf for
the
commercial fishermen. If you like roughin' it...you could stay anywhere
at
minimal or no cost for the night.




How big is your sailboat, Don?

Try to keep up Dingy. I sold my sailboat& temporarly joined the ranks
of
the infernal combustion crowd in the fall of 2007.



2-1/2 years ago? I wasn't here and I certainly wouldn't have saved any of
those posts.

You seem to like adolescent name-calling did you learn it from anyone
here?

Yeah...from the counter guy at Elite Contractors Supply.



This "Larry" suffers from multiple personality disorder. One week he's
Krueger, then he's Bob, then he's Larry...I guess his wife tells him by
the smell, which doesn't change.

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"hk" wrote in message
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On 4/8/10 9:25 PM, Don White wrote:
wrote in message
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Don White wrote:
wrote in message
news
Don White wrote:

wrote in message
...


Nom should know about this.
Without any protected way to get from point A to B such as the ICW
on
the east and Gulf coasts, isnt it a bit difficult to sail north up
the
coast? Do people sail northwards near shore or do they all go
WAAAAAAAY offshore?


Since the Gulf Stream turns westward two hundred miles south of
us...we
don't have that worry.
The Labrador current may affect boats up around northern Cape Breton,
but
that's what we have the Bras d'Or lakes for.
Along our 'mainland' coast, people sail where they want to...out far
enough
to avoid dangerous areas but not so far that ducking into numerous
small
harbours for the night is difficult or time consuming.
You'd fit right in up here Froggy...the nicer marinas are few& far
between
along the coast but every small community has a government wharf for
the
commercial fishermen. If you like roughin' it...you could stay
anywhere
at
minimal or no cost for the night.




How big is your sailboat, Don?

Try to keep up Dingy. I sold my sailboat& temporarly joined the
ranks
of
the infernal combustion crowd in the fall of 2007.



2-1/2 years ago? I wasn't here and I certainly wouldn't have saved any
of
those posts.

You seem to like adolescent name-calling did you learn it from anyone
here?

Yeah...from the counter guy at Elite Contractors Supply.



This "Larry" suffers from multiple personality disorder. One week he's
Krueger, then he's Bob, then he's Larry...I guess his wife tells him by
the smell, which doesn't change.


~~ Snerk ~~