On 08/04/2010 11:31 AM, nom=de=plume wrote:
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On 08/04/2010 6:03 AM, thunder wrote:
On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 18:58:54 -0600, Canuck57 wrote:


Agreed. Going for the little guy is stupid. Even though that is what
will happen.

Get the CEO, make him personally pay out of his own pocket $20,000,000
to the families without being re-imbursed by the company. And the
company match the payout to the families for another $20,000,000.

If they complain, double it.

If they still want to fight it, lay down criminal negligence carges on
top of it with jail time for the senior executives and board members.

Then there will be progress.

Or learn from the Chinese, and execute the CEOs. Fines just don't cut
it, when 25 are dead.

True. One think I will say about Chinese justice, it is harsh and not
corrupt. The crap that goes on here, would not occur there. Wagoner of
GM fame for example, he wouldn't have gotten a pension. He would have
been begging for his life for stiffing all the lenders. And he would have
been executed as a mercy act.

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Liberal-statism is an addiction to other peoples money.


China's legal system not corrupt???? Yeah, those show trials are just for
our benefit. They're really humanitarians deep down.


Would I say no corruption, never. But do they transfer private
corporation debt to taxpayers and bailout losers... Nope. You get
caught swindling over there, no pensions like Wagoner got. In China
Wagoner would have likely been shot for operating a company fraudulantly.

Humanitarianism against corruption does not work.
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Liberal-statism is an addiction to other peoples money.

On 08/04/2010 7:19 AM, hk wrote:
On 4/8/10 8:03 AM, thunder wrote:
On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 18:58:54 -0600, Canuck57 wrote:


Agreed. Going for the little guy is stupid. Even though that is what
will happen.

Get the CEO, make him personally pay out of his own pocket $20,000,000
to the families without being re-imbursed by the company. And the
company match the payout to the families for another $20,000,000.

If they complain, double it.

If they still want to fight it, lay down criminal negligence carges on
top of it with jail time for the senior executives and board members.

Then there will be progress.

Or learn from the Chinese, and execute the CEOs. Fines just don't cut
it, when 25 are dead.

Well, I don't favor the death penalty, but...serious criminal penalties
(as in prison terms), heavy fines against personal assets, et cetera,
especially for notoriously bad apples like the CEO of the mining company
under discussion, would suffice. I'd said one year in prison doing hard
time for each worker killed, plus a million dollar penalty paid to each
of the families, would be appropriate.

There are always going to be deaths and serious injuries in connection
with dangerous work, like mining, construction, et cetera. *Responsible*
business executives take the steps necessary to minimize those risks.
The irresponsible should be prosecuted and penalized.

Ordinarily I think death penalties should be used with reserve. But
there are people bad enough where reclaim is too risky. Generally
wanton crimes, drug smuggling, pedofile rape/murder, and those types of
crimes that are not accidents...


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Liberal-statism is an addiction to other peoples money.

"Canuck57" wrote in message
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On 08/04/2010 11:31 AM, nom=de=plume wrote:
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On 08/04/2010 6:03 AM, thunder wrote:
On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 18:58:54 -0600, Canuck57 wrote:


Agreed. Going for the little guy is stupid. Even though that is what
will happen.

Get the CEO, make him personally pay out of his own pocket $20,000,000
to the families without being re-imbursed by the company. And the
company match the payout to the families for another $20,000,000.

If they complain, double it.

If they still want to fight it, lay down criminal negligence carges on
top of it with jail time for the senior executives and board members.

Then there will be progress.

Or learn from the Chinese, and execute the CEOs. Fines just don't cut
it, when 25 are dead.

True. One think I will say about Chinese justice, it is harsh and not
corrupt. The crap that goes on here, would not occur there. Wagoner of
GM fame for example, he wouldn't have gotten a pension. He would have
been begging for his life for stiffing all the lenders. And he would
have
been executed as a mercy act.

--
Liberal-statism is an addiction to other peoples money.


China's legal system not corrupt???? Yeah, those show trials are just for
our benefit. They're really humanitarians deep down.


Would I say no corruption, never. But do they transfer private
corporation debt to taxpayers and bailout losers... Nope. You get caught
swindling over there, no pensions like Wagoner got. In China Wagoner
would have likely been shot for operating a company fraudulantly.

Well, in that case you'll be welcomed with open arms. I suggest you move
immediately. You're an idiot though, and they don't tolerate loudmouthed
idiots.


Humanitarianism against corruption does not work.

What does this have to do with anything? I'm sure somewhere in your squirrel
brain it does, but it's non-obvious.


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On Apr 8, 7:00*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Canuck57" wrote in message

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On 08/04/2010 11:31 AM, nom=de=plume wrote:
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On 08/04/2010 6:03 AM, thunder wrote:
On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 18:58:54 -0600, Canuck57 wrote:

Agreed. *Going for the little guy is stupid. *Even though that is what
will happen.

Get the CEO, make him personally pay out of his own pocket $20,000,000
to the families without being re-imbursed by the company. *And the
company match the payout to the families for another $20,000,000.

If they complain, double it.

If they still want to fight it, lay down criminal negligence carges on
top of it with jail time for the senior executives and board members.

Then there will be progress.

Or learn from the Chinese, and execute the CEOs. *Fines just don't cut
it, when 25 are dead.

True. *One think I will say about Chinese justice, it is harsh and not
corrupt. *The crap that goes on here, would not occur there. *Wagoner of
GM fame for example, he wouldn't have gotten a pension. *He would have
been begging for his life for stiffing all the lenders. *And he would
have
been executed as a mercy act.

--
Liberal-statism is an addiction to other peoples money.

China's legal system not corrupt???? Yeah, those show trials are just for
our benefit. They're really humanitarians deep down.

Would I say no corruption, never. *But do they transfer private
corporation debt to taxpayers and bailout losers... Nope. *You get caught
swindling over there, no pensions like Wagoner got. *In China Wagoner
would have likely been shot for operating a company fraudulantly.

Well, in that case you'll be welcomed with open arms. I suggest you move
immediately. You're an idiot though, and they don't tolerate loudmouthed
idiots.



Humanitarianism against corruption does not work.

What does this have to do with anything? I'm sure somewhere in your squirrel
brain it does, but it's non-obvious.

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Nom=de=Plume

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what's dumb"

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