On 3/22/10 8:07 PM, Larry wrote:
I am Tosk wrote:
In articleN5ydndXzRvSEPTvWnZ2dnUVZ_gmdnZ2d@giganews. com, LarryG222
@gmail.com says...
John H wrote:
On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 20:19:37 -0400, wrote:


John H wrote:

Good to hear you got out. Sounds like you had a great day.

We have friends from Holland coming next week. I won't be ready to
try to launch
the boat myself, but with Adri's (my friend) help, I'm sure
planning to do a
little boating. He and his wife are shipping their VW camper van
from Rotterdam
to Baltimore. We'll pick it up a few days after they arrive.
They'll stay here a
couple weeks and then spend the next three months travelling.

I'd like to get into the Ches Bay and do a little fishing. Even
some bottom
fishing for spot, perch, or croaker would be fun. I went down to
the marina a
couple weeks ago, and the boat looks fine. The cover took a
beating, but the new
one is here. Next year I'll give serious though to shrinkwrapping,
especially if
I get the phone number of the real cheap guy in MD that one of the
poster here
is always talking about.

I'm also interested in seeing how this new dog of mine does on a
boat.
--
John H

For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v


Sounds like a great time! What else can you catch there?

Larry

Striped bass are the big draw, along with trout and flounder. But
fishing for
all three has gotten much worse over the past few years, especially
the trout
and flounder.
--
John H

For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v

Is the entire bay salt water?
IIrc these are the same striped bass that show up around here later in
the season. If they are, they are known for going some 40+ miles up the
Connecticut River, way beyond the salt or brakish water areas. Brown
trout can live way down by the shoreline too, not sure how far they
actually swim out into the Sound, but I have caught them a few hundred
yards up river from the Sound.

Scotty

I'm not familiar with your area. The bad is an estuary so it should be
mostly freshwater. It's a huge body of water so the tides can only
affect a small portion of the bay, right?

Uh...wrong.

Loogypicker wrote:
On Mar 21, 6:47 pm, I am wrote:

In articleN5ydndXzRvSEPTvWnZ2dnUVZ_gmdn...@giganews. com, LarryG222
@gmail.com says...








John H wrote:

On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 20:19:37 -0400, wrote:


John H wrote:


Good to hear you got out. Sounds like you had a great day.


We have friends from Holland coming next week. I won't be ready to try to launch
the boat myself, but with Adri's (my friend) help, I'm sure planning to do a
little boating. He and his wife are shipping their VW camper van from Rotterdam
to Baltimore. We'll pick it up a few days after they arrive. They'll stay here a
couple weeks and then spend the next three months travelling.


I'd like to get into the Ches Bay and do a little fishing. Even some bottom
fishing for spot, perch, or croaker would be fun. I went down to the marina a
couple weeks ago, and the boat looks fine. The cover took a beating, but the new
one is here. Next year I'll give serious though to shrinkwrapping, especially if
I get the phone number of the real cheap guy in MD that one of the poster here
is always talking about.


I'm also interested in seeing how this new dog of mine does on a boat.
--
John H


For a great time, go here first...http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v


Sounds like a great time! What else can you catch there?


Larry


Striped bass are the big draw, along with trout and flounder. But fishing for
all three has gotten much worse over the past few years, especially the trout
and flounder.
--
John H


For a great time, go here first...http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v


Is the entire bay salt water?

IIrc these are the same striped bass that show up around here later in
the season. If they are, they are known for going some 40+ miles up the
Connecticut River, way beyond the salt or brakish water areas. Brown
trout can live way down by the shoreline too, not sure how far they
actually swim out into the Sound, but I have caught them a few hundred
yards up river from the Sound.

Scotty

--
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They adapt very well to fresh water. Lake Lanier is full of 'em as are
most southern lakes.

Are they all the same striped bass? The same we catch in the Mississippi?

In article , LarryG86
@gmail.com says...

Loogypicker wrote:
On Mar 21, 6:47 pm, I am wrote:

In articleN5ydndXzRvSEPTvWnZ2dnUVZ_gmdn...@giganews. com, LarryG222
@gmail.com says...








John H wrote:

On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 20:19:37 -0400, wrote:


John H wrote:


Good to hear you got out. Sounds like you had a great day.


We have friends from Holland coming next week. I won't be ready to try to launch
the boat myself, but with Adri's (my friend) help, I'm sure planning to do a
little boating. He and his wife are shipping their VW camper van from Rotterdam
to Baltimore. We'll pick it up a few days after they arrive. They'll stay here a
couple weeks and then spend the next three months travelling.


I'd like to get into the Ches Bay and do a little fishing. Even some bottom
fishing for spot, perch, or croaker would be fun. I went down to the marina a
couple weeks ago, and the boat looks fine. The cover took a beating, but the new
one is here. Next year I'll give serious though to shrinkwrapping, especially if
I get the phone number of the real cheap guy in MD that one of the poster here
is always talking about.


I'm also interested in seeing how this new dog of mine does on a boat.
--
John H


For a great time, go here first...http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v


Sounds like a great time! What else can you catch there?


Larry


Striped bass are the big draw, along with trout and flounder. But fishing for
all three has gotten much worse over the past few years, especially the trout
and flounder.
--
John H


For a great time, go here first...http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v


Is the entire bay salt water?

IIrc these are the same striped bass that show up around here later in
the season. If they are, they are known for going some 40+ miles up the
Connecticut River, way beyond the salt or brakish water areas. Brown
trout can live way down by the shoreline too, not sure how far they
actually swim out into the Sound, but I have caught them a few hundred
yards up river from the Sound.

Scotty

--
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- Show quoted text -

They adapt very well to fresh water. Lake Lanier is full of 'em as are
most southern lakes.

Are they all the same striped bass? The same we catch in the Mississippi?

I dunno. The ones we get up here are pretty big, the Connecticut record
is 75 pounds, but of course that is not typical. The limit here lately
has been in the mid to low thirty inches for keepers, I forget, I will
have to check the regs again this season if I go. Here is a typical
keeper here in CT or in Long Island Sound, and surrounding areas.

http://www.connecticut-fishing-chart...s/P1010005.jpg

I am not sure if it's the same fish you are talking about.

Scotty

--
For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v

hk wrote:
On 3/22/10 8:07 PM, Larry wrote:
I am Tosk wrote:
In articleN5ydndXzRvSEPTvWnZ2dnUVZ_gmdnZ2d@giganews. com, LarryG222
@gmail.com says...
John H wrote:
On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 20:19:37 -0400, wrote:


John H wrote:

Good to hear you got out. Sounds like you had a great day.

We have friends from Holland coming next week. I won't be ready to
try to launch
the boat myself, but with Adri's (my friend) help, I'm sure
planning to do a
little boating. He and his wife are shipping their VW camper van
from Rotterdam
to Baltimore. We'll pick it up a few days after they arrive.
They'll stay here a
couple weeks and then spend the next three months travelling.

I'd like to get into the Ches Bay and do a little fishing. Even
some bottom
fishing for spot, perch, or croaker would be fun. I went down to
the marina a
couple weeks ago, and the boat looks fine. The cover took a
beating, but the new
one is here. Next year I'll give serious though to shrinkwrapping,
especially if
I get the phone number of the real cheap guy in MD that one of the
poster here
is always talking about.

I'm also interested in seeing how this new dog of mine does on a
boat.
--
John H

For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v


Sounds like a great time! What else can you catch there?

Larry

Striped bass are the big draw, along with trout and flounder. But
fishing for
all three has gotten much worse over the past few years, especially
the trout
and flounder.
--
John H

For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v

Is the entire bay salt water?
IIrc these are the same striped bass that show up around here later in
the season. If they are, they are known for going some 40+ miles up the
Connecticut River, way beyond the salt or brakish water areas. Brown
trout can live way down by the shoreline too, not sure how far they
actually swim out into the Sound, but I have caught them a few hundred
yards up river from the Sound.

Scotty

I'm not familiar with your area. The bad is an estuary so it should be
mostly freshwater. It's a huge body of water so the tides can only
affect a small portion of the bay, right?

Uh...wrong.
Thanks for clearing that up.

BTW - Google is no help, I did look there.

On 3/22/10 9:45 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 20:49:01 -0400, wrote:

I'm not familiar with your area. The bad is an estuary so it should be
mostly freshwater. It's a huge body of water so the tides can only
affect a small portion of the bay, right?

Uh...wrong.
Thanks for clearing that up.

BTW - Google is no help, I did look there.

You might try the NOAA weather buoys. They may have salinity numbers.
The ocean should be in the 37-38 PPT range as a guide. Contact
solution is about 5.
My little river is a true estuary and I get from about 20 in the end
of the dry season to low single digits in the rainy season. That is 3
miles up, what most people would call a creek, from a small bay that
is another 2 miles from the gulf..


Some have salinity readings, but the two nearest me don't. At the
moment, the one near the convergence of the Bay and the Potomac reads
about 10, but it's amid a rush of fresh water.

On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 18:47:12 -0400, I am Tosk wrote:


IIrc these are the same striped bass that show up around here later in
the season. If they are, they are known for going some 40+ miles up the
Connecticut River, way beyond the salt or brakish water areas. Brown
trout can live way down by the shoreline too, not sure how far they
actually swim out into the Sound, but I have caught them a few hundred
yards up river from the Sound.

Scotty

Some brown trout morphs are anadromous, like the rainbow morph, the
steelhead. The live in the ocean, and only return to freshwater to spawn.

On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 20:07:39 -0400, Larry wrote:

I am Tosk wrote:
In articleN5ydndXzRvSEPTvWnZ2dnUVZ_gmdnZ2d@giganews. com, LarryG222
@gmail.com says...

John H wrote:

On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 20:19:37 -0400, wrote:



John H wrote:


Good to hear you got out. Sounds like you had a great day.

We have friends from Holland coming next week. I won't be ready to try to launch
the boat myself, but with Adri's (my friend) help, I'm sure planning to do a
little boating. He and his wife are shipping their VW camper van from Rotterdam
to Baltimore. We'll pick it up a few days after they arrive. They'll stay here a
couple weeks and then spend the next three months travelling.

I'd like to get into the Ches Bay and do a little fishing. Even some bottom
fishing for spot, perch, or croaker would be fun. I went down to the marina a
couple weeks ago, and the boat looks fine. The cover took a beating, but the new
one is here. Next year I'll give serious though to shrinkwrapping, especially if
I get the phone number of the real cheap guy in MD that one of the poster here
is always talking about.

I'm also interested in seeing how this new dog of mine does on a boat.
--
John H

For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v



Sounds like a great time! What else can you catch there?

Larry


Striped bass are the big draw, along with trout and flounder. But fishing for
all three has gotten much worse over the past few years, especially the trout
and flounder.
--
John H

For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v


Is the entire bay salt water?

IIrc these are the same striped bass that show up around here later in
the season. If they are, they are known for going some 40+ miles up the
Connecticut River, way beyond the salt or brakish water areas. Brown
trout can live way down by the shoreline too, not sure how far they
actually swim out into the Sound, but I have caught them a few hundred
yards up river from the Sound.

Scotty


I'm not familiar with your area. The bad is an estuary so it should be
mostly freshwater. It's a huge body of water so the tides can only
affect a small portion of the bay, right?

The Bay is tidal clear up past Baltimo

http://www.dnr.state.md.us/fisheries...ndex.asp#frame

The Potomac River is also tidal. Although 'fresh water' on top, the channel is
salt water on the bottom.

The stripers we catch in the bay look like this:

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...ng05_05_10.jpg

That's me on the right.


--
John H

For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 20:07:39 -0400, Larry wrote:

I am Tosk wrote:
In articleN5ydndXzRvSEPTvWnZ2dnUVZ_gmdnZ2d@giganews. com, LarryG222
@gmail.com says...

John H wrote:

On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 20:19:37 -0400, wrote:



John H wrote:


Good to hear you got out. Sounds like you had a great day.

We have friends from Holland coming next week. I won't be ready to try to launch
the boat myself, but with Adri's (my friend) help, I'm sure planning to do a
little boating. He and his wife are shipping their VW camper van from Rotterdam
to Baltimore. We'll pick it up a few days after they arrive. They'll stay here a
couple weeks and then spend the next three months travelling.

I'd like to get into the Ches Bay and do a little fishing. Even some bottom
fishing for spot, perch, or croaker would be fun. I went down to the marina a
couple weeks ago, and the boat looks fine. The cover took a beating, but the new
one is here. Next year I'll give serious though to shrinkwrapping, especially if
I get the phone number of the real cheap guy in MD that one of the poster here
is always talking about.

I'm also interested in seeing how this new dog of mine does on a boat.
--
John H

For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v



Sounds like a great time! What else can you catch there?

Larry


Striped bass are the big draw, along with trout and flounder. But fishing for
all three has gotten much worse over the past few years, especially the trout
and flounder.
--
John H

For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v


Is the entire bay salt water?

IIrc these are the same striped bass that show up around here later in
the season. If they are, they are known for going some 40+ miles up the
Connecticut River, way beyond the salt or brakish water areas. Brown
trout can live way down by the shoreline too, not sure how far they
actually swim out into the Sound, but I have caught them a few hundred
yards up river from the Sound.

Scotty


I'm not familiar with your area. The bad is an estuary so it should be
mostly freshwater. It's a huge body of water so the tides can only
affect a small portion of the bay, right?

The Bay is tidal clear up past Baltimo

http://www.dnr.state.md.us/fisheries...ndex.asp#frame

The Potomac River is also tidal. Although 'fresh water' on top, the channel is
salt water on the bottom.

The stripers we catch in the bay look like this:

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...ng05_05_10.jpg

That's me on the right.

Those do seem to be the same fish we get up here. In fact I think you
man have Martha there in your hand. We did miss her last year! Was she
good?

Great pic. It's nice that you are not butt frekin ugly and fat as a pig
like so many of the nasty trolls here. Isn't it nice to be able to share
info about boating on a boating group without embarrassment. No nasty
gnawed nails, or frighteningly yellow tobacco stained teeth.

Scotty

--
For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v

On Mar 23, 6:44*am, John H wrote:
On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 20:07:39 -0400, Larry wrote:
I am Tosk wrote:
In articleN5ydndXzRvSEPTvWnZ2dnUVZ_gmdn...@giganews. com, LarryG222
@gmail.com says...

John H wrote:

On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 20:19:37 -0400, * wrote:

John H wrote:

Good to hear you got out. Sounds like you had a great day.

We have friends from Holland coming next week. I won't be ready to try to launch
the boat myself, but with Adri's (my friend) help, I'm sure planning to do a
little boating. He and his wife are shipping their VW camper van from Rotterdam
to Baltimore. We'll pick it up a few days after they arrive. They'll stay here a
couple weeks and then spend the next three months travelling.

I'd like to get into the Ches Bay and do a little fishing. Even some bottom
fishing for spot, perch, or croaker would be fun. I went down to the marina a
couple weeks ago, and the boat looks fine. The cover took a beating, but the new
one is here. Next year I'll give serious though to shrinkwrapping, especially if
I get the phone number of the real cheap guy in MD that one of the poster here
is always talking about.

I'm also interested in seeing how this new dog of mine does on a boat.
--
John H

For a great time, go here first...http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v

Sounds like a great time! *What else can you catch there?

Larry

Striped bass are the big draw, along with trout and flounder. But fishing for
all three has gotten much worse over the past few years, especially the trout
and flounder.
--
John H

For a great time, go here first...http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v

Is the entire bay salt water?

IIrc these are the same striped bass that show up around here later in
the season. If they are, they are known for going some 40+ miles up the
Connecticut River, way beyond the salt or brakish water areas. Brown
trout can live way down by the shoreline too, not sure how far they
actually swim out into the Sound, but I have caught them a few hundred
yards up river from the Sound.

Scotty

I'm not familiar with your area. *The bad is an estuary so it should be
mostly freshwater. *It's a huge body of water so the tides can only
affect a small portion of the bay, right?

The Bay is tidal clear up past Baltimo

http://www.dnr.state.md.us/fisheries...ndex.asp#frame

The Potomac River is also tidal. Although 'fresh water' on top, the channel is
salt water on the bottom.

The stripers we catch in the bay look like this:

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...ng05_05_10.jpg

That's me on the right.

--
John H

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- Show quoted text -

Looks like you made a great catch, John. And I knwo it isn't but that
boat on the upper left looks or reminds me of my old 27' Chris Craft
Cavalier.

On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 10:47:03 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 08:44:56 -0400, John H
wrote:

I'm not familiar with your area. The bad is an estuary so it should be
mostly freshwater. It's a huge body of water so the tides can only
affect a small portion of the bay, right?

The Bay is tidal clear up past Baltimo

http://www.dnr.state.md.us/fisheries...ndex.asp#frame

The Potomac River is also tidal. Although 'fresh water' on top, the channel is
salt water on the bottom.
If you look at that link I posted you will see the water level is
affected by the tide but it is really brackish water being pushed in
and out. The real salty water (above 20 PPT) is concentrated down in
the south end by the ocean.
http://web.vims.edu/physical/WEB/PRE...lt.htm?svr=www

Although generally it is always saltier on the bottom it doesn't look
like there is much salt in the river upstream of around Port Tobacco.

That indicates to me there is a whole lot of fresh water entering the
bay from the tributaries and will not really allow much intrusion from
the ocean. The wedge effect seems to be limited to the southern part
of the bay.

You're absolutely correct. That's the problem with the bay, the polutants from
all the rivers and streams that dump into it.
--
John H

For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v