Having spent some time on the briny deep, I am curious about some of the
terms.

Why is there astern and abaft when they mean the same thing?

And there is bow and forward, but not abow or aforward.

We always said go forward or go aft or go astern. I think abaft is a very
old term.

Is there a dictionary or glossary of old or archaic nautical terms?

Steve

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Having spent some time on the briny deep, I am curious about some of the
terms.

Why is there astern and abaft when they mean the same thing?

And there is bow and forward, but not abow or aforward.

We always said go forward or go aft or go astern. I think abaft is a very
old term.

Is there a dictionary or glossary of old or archaic nautical terms?

Steve



A friend of mine has "When a Loose Cannon Flogs a Dead Horse There's the
Devil to Pay."

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Why is there astern and abaft when they mean the same thing?

They don't reality mean the same thing
Astern means behind the boat, abaft means a spot on the boat behind a
certain point.

Ah. I see.

Steve

BTW, you made a mention of salt marsh mosquitoes. Without giving away your
position, can you give me a general area? I used to life in Lafayette, LA,
and have had many a run in with clouds of mosquitoes at the Gulf Coast boat
landings.

Steve

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Why is there astern and abaft when they mean the same thing?

They don't reality mean the same thing
Astern means behind the boat, abaft means a spot on the boat behind a
certain point.

Ah. I see.

Steve

BTW, you made a mention of salt marsh mosquitoes. Without giving away
your position, can you give me a general area? I used to life in
Lafayette, LA, and have had many a run in with clouds of mosquitoes at the
Gulf Coast boat landings.

Steve


We have some pretty bad mosquitoes here (Northern Cal.). I've seen them so
thick on the trail that you want to avoid the whole thing. Apparently, some
hybernate in tree bark, but they die off pretty quickly.

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On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:16:26 -0800, "Steve B"
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Why is there astern and abaft when they mean the same thing?

They don't reality mean the same thing
Astern means behind the boat, abaft means a spot on the boat behind a
certain point.

Ah. I see.

Steve

BTW, you made a mention of salt marsh mosquitoes. Without giving away
your position, can you give me a general area? I used to life in
Lafayette, LA, and have had many a run in with clouds of mosquitoes at
the Gulf Coast boat landings.

Steve


We have some pretty bad mosquitoes here (Northern Cal.). I've seen them so
thick on the trail that you want to avoid the whole thing. Apparently,
some hybernate in tree bark, but they die off pretty quickly.

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California mosquitos are not even in the same league as Southern mosquitos.
You may hit a few dense spots of biters here, but in the south, you will see
cubic miles of biters. And the little ones itch worse than the big ones.
Is why they used to use "Mosquito Foggers" on the roads. Is what Jayne
Mansfield died from hitting.

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On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:16:26 -0800, "Steve B"
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Why is there astern and abaft when they mean the same thing?

They don't reality mean the same thing
Astern means behind the boat, abaft means a spot on the boat behind a
certain point.

Ah. I see.

Steve

BTW, you made a mention of salt marsh mosquitoes. Without giving away
your position, can you give me a general area? I used to life in
Lafayette, LA, and have had many a run in with clouds of mosquitoes at
the Gulf Coast boat landings.

Steve


We have some pretty bad mosquitoes here (Northern Cal.). I've seen them
so thick on the trail that you want to avoid the whole thing. Apparently,
some hybernate in tree bark, but they die off pretty quickly.

--
Nom=de=Plume


California mosquitos are not even in the same league as Southern
mosquitos. You may hit a few dense spots of biters here, but in the south,
you will see cubic miles of biters. And the little ones itch worse than
the big ones. Is why they used to use "Mosquito Foggers" on the roads. Is
what Jayne Mansfield died from hitting.

I didn't know that's how she died... interesting. I'm also really, really
glad I don't live in that part of the country!

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On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:16:26 -0800, "Steve B"
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Why is there astern and abaft when they mean the same thing?

They don't reality mean the same thing
Astern means behind the boat, abaft means a spot on the boat behind a
certain point.

Ah. I see.

Steve

BTW, you made a mention of salt marsh mosquitoes. Without giving away
your position, can you give me a general area? I used to life in
Lafayette, LA, and have had many a run in with clouds of mosquitoes at
the Gulf Coast boat landings.

Steve


We have some pretty bad mosquitoes here (Northern Cal.). I've seen them
so
thick on the trail that you want to avoid the whole thing. Apparently,
some hybernate in tree bark, but they die off pretty quickly.

--
Nom=de=Plume


California mosquitos are not even in the same league as Southern
mosquitos.
You may hit a few dense spots of biters here, but in the south, you will
see
cubic miles of biters. And the little ones itch worse than the big ones.
Is why they used to use "Mosquito Foggers" on the roads. Is what Jayne
Mansfield died from hitting.


The worst I have ever seen was up near Froggy at the Confederate salt
flats, near Port St Joe. (on Cape San Blais)
They were so bad you couldn't run to the car fast enough and we were
several miles down I-10 before we got them out of the car.
A close second is the Collier Seminole park on the western edge of the
Everglades where it joins Big Cypress.
Sanibel has the record but that is an old story and they were probably
the only ones who really counted mosquitoes. Lee Mosquito control
bucking for funding

Worst three places I saw were all in LA. Grand Chenier, Marangouin, and
Venice. You would breathe them in if you weren't careful.

Steve

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On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:16:26 -0800, "Steve B"
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Why is there astern and abaft when they mean the same thing?

They don't reality mean the same thing
Astern means behind the boat, abaft means a spot on the boat behind a
certain point.

Ah. I see.

Steve

BTW, you made a mention of salt marsh mosquitoes. Without giving away
your position, can you give me a general area? I used to life in
Lafayette, LA, and have had many a run in with clouds of mosquitoes at
the Gulf Coast boat landings.

Steve


We have some pretty bad mosquitoes here (Northern Cal.). I've seen them
so
thick on the trail that you want to avoid the whole thing. Apparently,
some hybernate in tree bark, but they die off pretty quickly.

--
Nom=de=Plume


California mosquitos are not even in the same league as Southern
mosquitos.
You may hit a few dense spots of biters here, but in the south, you will
see
cubic miles of biters. And the little ones itch worse than the big ones.
Is why they used to use "Mosquito Foggers" on the roads. Is what Jayne
Mansfield died from hitting.


The worst I have ever seen was up near Froggy at the Confederate salt
flats, near Port St Joe. (on Cape San Blais)
They were so bad you couldn't run to the car fast enough and we were
several miles down I-10 before we got them out of the car.
A close second is the Collier Seminole park on the western edge of the
Everglades where it joins Big Cypress.
Sanibel has the record but that is an old story and they were probably
the only ones who really counted mosquitoes. Lee Mosquito control
bucking for funding

Worst three places I saw were all in LA. Grand Chenier, Marangouin, and
Venice. You would breathe them in if you weren't careful.

Steve



Blech... I've done that while running on the trails.

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On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:16:26 -0800, "Steve B"
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Why is there astern and abaft when they mean the same thing?

They don't reality mean the same thing
Astern means behind the boat, abaft means a spot on the boat behind a
certain point.

Ah. I see.

Steve

BTW, you made a mention of salt marsh mosquitoes. Without giving away
your position, can you give me a general area? I used to life in
Lafayette, LA, and have had many a run in with clouds of mosquitoes at
the Gulf Coast boat landings.

Steve


We have some pretty bad mosquitoes here (Northern Cal.). I've seen them
so
thick on the trail that you want to avoid the whole thing. Apparently,
some hybernate in tree bark, but they die off pretty quickly.

--
Nom=de=Plume


California mosquitos are not even in the same league as Southern
mosquitos.
You may hit a few dense spots of biters here, but in the south, you will
see
cubic miles of biters. And the little ones itch worse than the big ones.
Is why they used to use "Mosquito Foggers" on the roads. Is what Jayne
Mansfield died from hitting.


The worst I have ever seen was up near Froggy at the Confederate salt
flats, near Port St Joe. (on Cape San Blais)
They were so bad you couldn't run to the car fast enough and we were
several miles down I-10 before we got them out of the car.
A close second is the Collier Seminole park on the western edge of the
Everglades where it joins Big Cypress.
Sanibel has the record but that is an old story and they were probably
the only ones who really counted mosquitoes. Lee Mosquito control
bucking for funding

Worst three places I saw were all in LA. Grand Chenier, Marangouin, and
Venice. You would breathe them in if you weren't careful.

Steve


I was stationed in Biloxi, and they could get bad, but not atrocious. Maybe
because there was sal****er on one side and brackish on the back side.