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JACKSON, Miss. (AP) - A northern Mississippi school district will not be hosting a high school prom this spring after a lesbian student sought to attend with her girlfriend and wear a tuxedo. The Itawamba County school district's board decided Wednesday to drop the prom because of what it called recent distractions but without specifically mentioning the girl's request, which was backed by the American Civil Liberties Union. The student, 18-year-old high school senior Constance McMillen, said the cancellation was retaliation for her efforts to bring her girlfriend, also a student, to the April 2 dance. "A bunch of kids at school are really going to hate me for this, so in a way it's really retaliation," McMillen told The Clarion-Ledger of Jackson. Calls to McMillen by The Associated Press late Wednesday went unanswered. School policy requires that senior prom dates be of the opposite sex. The ACLU of Mississippi had given the district until Wednesday to change that policy, arguing that banning same-sex prom dates violated McMillen's constitutional rights. Instead, the school board met and issued a statement announcing it wouldn't host the event at Itawamba County Agricultural High School in Fulton, "due to the distractions to the educational process caused by recent events." The statement didn't mention McMillen or the ACLU. When asked by The Associated Press if McMillen's demand led to the cancellation, school board attorney Michele Floyd said she could only reference the statement. "It is our hope that private citizens will organize an event for the juniors and seniors," district officials said in the statement. "However, at this time, we feel that it is in the best interest of the Itawamba County School District, after taking into consideration the education, safety and well being of our students." Kristy Bennett, legal director for the ACLU of Mississippi, said the district was trying to avoid the issue. "But that doesn't take away their legal obligations to treat all the students fairly," Bennett said. "On Constance's behalf, this is unfair to her. All she's trying to do is assert her rights." Itawamba County is a rural area of about 23,000 people in north Mississippi near the Alabama state line. It borders Pontotoc County, Miss., where more than a decade ago school officials were sued in federal court over their practice of student-led intercom prayer and Bible classes. |
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On 3/11/10 1:54 PM, jps wrote:
In Mississippi JACKSON, Miss. (AP) - A northern Mississippi school district will not be hosting a high school prom this spring after a lesbian student sought to attend with her girlfriend and wear a tuxedo. The Itawamba County school district's board decided Wednesday to drop the prom because of what it called recent distractions but without specifically mentioning the girl's request, which was backed by the American Civil Liberties Union. The student, 18-year-old high school senior Constance McMillen, said the cancellation was retaliation for her efforts to bring her girlfriend, also a student, to the April 2 dance. "A bunch of kids at school are really going to hate me for this, so in a way it's really retaliation," McMillen told The Clarion-Ledger of Jackson. Calls to McMillen by The Associated Press late Wednesday went unanswered. School policy requires that senior prom dates be of the opposite sex. The ACLU of Mississippi had given the district until Wednesday to change that policy, arguing that banning same-sex prom dates violated McMillen's constitutional rights. Instead, the school board met and issued a statement announcing it wouldn't host the event at Itawamba County Agricultural High School in Fulton, "due to the distractions to the educational process caused by recent events." The statement didn't mention McMillen or the ACLU. When asked by The Associated Press if McMillen's demand led to the cancellation, school board attorney Michele Floyd said she could only reference the statement. "It is our hope that private citizens will organize an event for the juniors and seniors," district officials said in the statement. "However, at this time, we feel that it is in the best interest of the Itawamba County School District, after taking into consideration the education, safety and well being of our students." Kristy Bennett, legal director for the ACLU of Mississippi, said the district was trying to avoid the issue. "But that doesn't take away their legal obligations to treat all the students fairly," Bennett said. "On Constance's behalf, this is unfair to her. All she's trying to do is assert her rights." Itawamba County is a rural area of about 23,000 people in north Mississippi near the Alabama state line. It borders Pontotoc County, Miss., where more than a decade ago school officials were sued in federal court over their practice of student-led intercom prayer and Bible classes. If Mississippi, Alabama, South Carolina and Texas seceded, they could form a new nation, the Quad of Ignorant Racists. If memory serves, Sam Houston was against the South seceding. Apparently the asshole who will win re-election as governor of texas doesn't share those feelings. -- If the X-MimeOLE "header" doesn't say: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 then it isn't me, it's an ID spoofer. |
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On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:33:19 -0800 (PST), Bob Rankin
wrote: speaking of deviance, Krause, how is it to live with a felony sex conviction? that was you on the Florida sex offenders list wasn't it? Pensicola. Figures you'd be an idiot. Not much else down thataway. |
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On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:02:33 -0500, HK
wrote: On 3/11/10 1:54 PM, jps wrote: In Mississippi JACKSON, Miss. (AP) - A northern Mississippi school district will not be hosting a high school prom this spring after a lesbian student sought to attend with her girlfriend and wear a tuxedo. The Itawamba County school district's board decided Wednesday to drop the prom because of what it called recent distractions but without specifically mentioning the girl's request, which was backed by the American Civil Liberties Union. The student, 18-year-old high school senior Constance McMillen, said the cancellation was retaliation for her efforts to bring her girlfriend, also a student, to the April 2 dance. "A bunch of kids at school are really going to hate me for this, so in a way it's really retaliation," McMillen told The Clarion-Ledger of Jackson. Calls to McMillen by The Associated Press late Wednesday went unanswered. School policy requires that senior prom dates be of the opposite sex. The ACLU of Mississippi had given the district until Wednesday to change that policy, arguing that banning same-sex prom dates violated McMillen's constitutional rights. Instead, the school board met and issued a statement announcing it wouldn't host the event at Itawamba County Agricultural High School in Fulton, "due to the distractions to the educational process caused by recent events." The statement didn't mention McMillen or the ACLU. When asked by The Associated Press if McMillen's demand led to the cancellation, school board attorney Michele Floyd said she could only reference the statement. "It is our hope that private citizens will organize an event for the juniors and seniors," district officials said in the statement. "However, at this time, we feel that it is in the best interest of the Itawamba County School District, after taking into consideration the education, safety and well being of our students." Kristy Bennett, legal director for the ACLU of Mississippi, said the district was trying to avoid the issue. "But that doesn't take away their legal obligations to treat all the students fairly," Bennett said. "On Constance's behalf, this is unfair to her. All she's trying to do is assert her rights." Itawamba County is a rural area of about 23,000 people in north Mississippi near the Alabama state line. It borders Pontotoc County, Miss., where more than a decade ago school officials were sued in federal court over their practice of student-led intercom prayer and Bible classes. If Mississippi, Alabama, South Carolina and Texas seceded, they could form a new nation, the Quad of Ignorant Racists. If memory serves, Sam Houston was against the South seceding. Apparently the asshole who will win re-election as governor of texas doesn't share those feelings. That's good, QIR. Fitting. |
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On 3/11/10 3:15 PM, jps wrote:
On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:33:19 -0800 (PST), Bob Rankin wrote: speaking of deviance, Krause, how is it to live with a felony sex conviction? that was you on the Florida sex offenders list wasn't it? Pensicola. Figures you'd be an idiot. Not much else down thataway. Snotty Ingersoll is the intellectual leader of the right wing here. Rankin, obviously, is his first cousin. -- If the X-MimeOLE "header" doesn't say: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 then it isn't me, it's an ID spoofer. |
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Why am I not surprised by the ranting of someone that married their sister. |
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On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:07:12 -0500, HK
wrote: Perhaps 'lil abner' needs to come out of the closet. Hey, it's mississippi...perhaps the students attending the prom wearing their klansuits will be offended by the sight of two gals dancing together... :) kinda reminds 'em of why they married their sisters. |
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On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:00:14 -0500, lil abner wrote:
I had no idea there were so many limp wrists in boating. hahahahahah. Two women would be nice but wife says no unless I giver all my moneym cars etc. what the hell would she do with a rusting 1978 ford F150 and 3 bus tokens? |
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"bpuharic" wrote in message
... On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:00:14 -0500, lil abner wrote: I had no idea there were so many limp wrists in boating. hahahahahah. Two women would be nice but wife says no unless I giver all my moneym cars etc. what the hell would she do with a rusting 1978 ford F150 and 3 bus tokens? Three bus tokens?? He's rich! -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:00:14 -0500, lil abner wrote: I had no idea there were so many limp wrists in boating. hahahahahah. Two women would be nice but wife says no unless I giver all my moneym cars etc. what the hell would she do with a rusting 1978 ford F150 and 3 bus tokens? There ain't that much rust on Red. Tokens? I though they was dabloons. She don't know about all those pictures of Jeff Davis, in the trunk, of the Merc though. |
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"nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... So, you're the one who gets to define normal? I don't think so. As an attorney, I would think you would agree that the appropriate way to have dealt with this situation would have been to petition the district school committee to revise their policy *before* the prom was scheduled. The policy in force requires dates to be of the opposite sex. Instead of creating a public media circus, the girl and her herd of ACLU lawyers should have sought to have the opposite sex policy changed or dropped. If they had, the school sponsored prom would have gone on with probably only a few raised eyebrows. I think the committee acted appropriately. They sought to avoid any demonstrations or problems at a school sponsored event. They suggested that perhaps a private organization sponsor the prom instead. In a culture based on the rule of laws, it seems that now-a-days adherence to existing laws or rules is optional. Eisboch |
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On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 23:57:08 -0500, lil abner wrote:
You'll find you are still in the very very small minority. Society has defined it for thousands of years as well as the Bible. slavery was normal in society for a thousand years. is that normal too? and the bible? that piece of delusional ****? the one that says in ephesians, 6:5 that slaves should obey their masters? that the bible you talking about? |
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On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:58:24 -0500, lil abner wrote:
Enlightened? Does that mean tolerance or endorsement?? I will treat everyone the same but I will not endorse deviant behavior any more than I would devil worship. fine then commit suicide. homosexuality is normal. hatred of people who have a private life is not They want normal treatment behave as normal. Keep their bedroom etc behavior private and out of our presence. you do the same, m'kay? Where and when I was raised big city perversions and vices were not only frowned on but not tolerated any more than they would wife beating, or murder. no one gives a **** about the incestuous pig farm you were raised on |
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On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 03:26:51 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... So, you're the one who gets to define normal? I don't think so. As an attorney, I would think you would agree that the appropriate way to have dealt with this situation would have been to petition the district school committee to revise their policy *before* the prom was scheduled. so if they'd said only white couples could attend, the way to change this is 'through channels'? i dont THINK so... In a culture based on the rule of laws, it seems that now-a-days adherence to existing laws or rules is optional. how about jim crow laws? should we have obeyed them or protested them and disobeyed them? |
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On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:14:36 -0800, "mgg" wrote:
Ever seen pics of the gay pride parade in San Francisco? It doesn't matter what their sexual preference is, they are just plain weird. If they claim to represent the gay community, it's no wonder they're "bashed." blame the victim, eh? I'm with you. Just keep it private. how do you keep bigotry and hatred 'private'? they cant get spousal health insurance. they can't adopt. they can't inherit property... how is that 'private'? My wife works with a guy that feels the need to mention his "husband" (using that word), every chance he can. He'll go out of his way to mention his "husband," and I don't even know his (the husband's) name. That's the sad part. He's more intent in letting us know that he's "married" to a man, then telling us about the man himself (like his name). In other words he's flaunting his gay lifestyle to everyone he meets. What's the point? We know he's gay, so why can't he say "Gary" (or whatever his name is), instead of "husband?" It's annoying. that's what they used to say about integration |
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"bpuharic" wrote in message ... On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 03:26:51 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... So, you're the one who gets to define normal? I don't think so. As an attorney, I would think you would agree that the appropriate way to have dealt with this situation would have been to petition the district school committee to revise their policy *before* the prom was scheduled. so if they'd said only white couples could attend, the way to change this is 'through channels'? i dont THINK so... In a culture based on the rule of laws, it seems that now-a-days adherence to existing laws or rules is optional. how about jim crow laws? should we have obeyed them or protested them and disobeyed them? Laws and the social acceptance of them are two different things. If the laws are outdated, unenforceable or just plain wrong, there is a legal process available to change them. Inviting or risking conflict and violence is not the means. Eisboch |
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On 3/12/10 3:26 AM, Eisboch wrote:
wrote in message ... So, you're the one who gets to define normal? I don't think so. As an attorney, I would think you would agree that the appropriate way to have dealt with this situation would have been to petition the district school committee to revise their policy *before* the prom was scheduled. The policy in force requires dates to be of the opposite sex. Instead of creating a public media circus, the girl and her herd of ACLU lawyers should have sought to have the opposite sex policy changed or dropped. If they had, the school sponsored prom would have gone on with probably only a few raised eyebrows. I think the committee acted appropriately. They sought to avoid any demonstrations or problems at a school sponsored event. They suggested that perhaps a private organization sponsor the prom instead. In a culture based on the rule of laws, it seems that now-a-days adherence to existing laws or rules is optional. Eisboch In *most* cases, laws that are in existence only to discriminate based upon race, gender, whatever, should be considered unConstitutional and just plain ignored. It is not the state's business to determine who a teen can or cannot take to a celebratory event like a prom. In Virginia not so long ago, it was "illegal" for blacks and whites to marry each other. That law was unConstitutional and mostly ignored up until the day it was tossed in the trash. Sometimes, when trying to get unjust, unConstitutional laws dumped, it is necessary to create "a public media circus." There's nothing wrong with demonstrations, especially if the demonstators are polite. Of course, Mississippi has an colorful history in how it treats demonstrators. It used to shoot them. -- If the X-MimeOLE "header" doesn't say: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 then it isn't me, it's an ID spoofer. |
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On 3/12/10 6:33 AM, Eisboch wrote:
wrote in message ... On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 03:26:51 -0500, wrote: wrote in message ... So, you're the one who gets to define normal? I don't think so. As an attorney, I would think you would agree that the appropriate way to have dealt with this situation would have been to petition the district school committee to revise their policy *before* the prom was scheduled. so if they'd said only white couples could attend, the way to change this is 'through channels'? i dont THINK so... In a culture based on the rule of laws, it seems that now-a-days adherence to existing laws or rules is optional. how about jim crow laws? should we have obeyed them or protested them and disobeyed them? Laws and the social acceptance of them are two different things. If the laws are outdated, unenforceable or just plain wrong, there is a legal process available to change them. Inviting or risking conflict and violence is not the means. Eisboch That's just plain silly, richard. I can think of a number of instances in which demonstrations, peaceful and otherwise, got unjust laws or policies changed. I'm aure you can, too. Conflict can speed along the process. -- If the X-MimeOLE "header" doesn't say: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 then it isn't me, it's an ID spoofer. |
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"HK" wrote in message m... That's just plain silly, richard. I can think of a number of instances in which demonstrations, peaceful and otherwise, got unjust laws or policies changed. I'm aure you can, too. Conflict can speed along the process. Not silly at all. I can think of demonstrations, peaceful and otherwise that have resulted in people killed or in the hospital. A high school prom isn't worth the risk. Eisboch |
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"HK" wrote in message m... On 3/12/10 3:26 AM, Eisboch wrote: wrote in message ... So, you're the one who gets to define normal? I don't think so. As an attorney, I would think you would agree that the appropriate way to have dealt with this situation would have been to petition the district school committee to revise their policy *before* the prom was scheduled. The policy in force requires dates to be of the opposite sex. Instead of creating a public media circus, the girl and her herd of ACLU lawyers should have sought to have the opposite sex policy changed or dropped. If they had, the school sponsored prom would have gone on with probably only a few raised eyebrows. I think the committee acted appropriately. They sought to avoid any demonstrations or problems at a school sponsored event. They suggested that perhaps a private organization sponsor the prom instead. In a culture based on the rule of laws, it seems that now-a-days adherence to existing laws or rules is optional. Eisboch In *most* cases, laws that are in existence only to discriminate based upon race, gender, whatever, should be considered unConstitutional and just plain ignored. It is not the state's business to determine who a teen can or cannot take to a celebratory event like a prom. In Virginia not so long ago, it was "illegal" for blacks and whites to marry each other. That law was unConstitutional and mostly ignored up until the day it was tossed in the trash. Sometimes, when trying to get unjust, unConstitutional laws dumped, it is necessary to create "a public media circus." There's nothing wrong with demonstrations, especially if the demonstators are polite. Of course, Mississippi has an colorful history in how it treats demonstrators. It used to shoot them. You are walking a fine line there, Harry. Who decides what laws or, in this case policy, is unjust? You are giving evidence to my point .... if you don't agree or like it ... ignore it. Recognition of a law becomes optional. All your points about discriminate based upon race, gender, etc. are valid. So, challenge them at a school committee meeting or in court to have the policy changed. That didn't happen in this case apparently, so the committee made the wise choice of canceling the prom. |
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On 3/12/10 8:43 AM, Eisboch wrote:
wrote in message m... On 3/12/10 3:26 AM, Eisboch wrote: wrote in message ... So, you're the one who gets to define normal? I don't think so. As an attorney, I would think you would agree that the appropriate way to have dealt with this situation would have been to petition the district school committee to revise their policy *before* the prom was scheduled. The policy in force requires dates to be of the opposite sex. Instead of creating a public media circus, the girl and her herd of ACLU lawyers should have sought to have the opposite sex policy changed or dropped. If they had, the school sponsored prom would have gone on with probably only a few raised eyebrows. I think the committee acted appropriately. They sought to avoid any demonstrations or problems at a school sponsored event. They suggested that perhaps a private organization sponsor the prom instead. In a culture based on the rule of laws, it seems that now-a-days adherence to existing laws or rules is optional. Eisboch In *most* cases, laws that are in existence only to discriminate based upon race, gender, whatever, should be considered unConstitutional and just plain ignored. It is not the state's business to determine who a teen can or cannot take to a celebratory event like a prom. In Virginia not so long ago, it was "illegal" for blacks and whites to marry each other. That law was unConstitutional and mostly ignored up until the day it was tossed in the trash. Sometimes, when trying to get unjust, unConstitutional laws dumped, it is necessary to create "a public media circus." There's nothing wrong with demonstrations, especially if the demonstators are polite. Of course, Mississippi has an colorful history in how it treats demonstrators. It used to shoot them. You are walking a fine line there, Harry. Who decides what laws or, in this case policy, is unjust? You are giving evidence to my point .... if you don't agree or like it ... ignore it. Recognition of a law becomes optional. All your points about discriminate based upon race, gender, etc. are valid. So, challenge them at a school committee meeting or in court to have the policy changed. That didn't happen in this case apparently, so the committee made the wise choice of canceling the prom. Citizens are capable of deciding what laws are just or unjust and, if the latter, determining whether civil disobedience or peaceful demonstrations are a way to respond. "Congress shall make no law...abridging...the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." -- If the X-MimeOLE "header" doesn't say: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 then it isn't me, it's an ID spoofer. |
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On Mar 11, 2:15*pm, jps wrote:
On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:33:19 -0800 (PST), Bob Rankin wrote: speaking of deviance, Krause, how is it to live with a felony sex conviction? *that was you on the Florida sex offenders list wasn't it? Pensicola. *Figures you'd be an idiot. *Not much else down thataway. Hey JPS, you might want to learn how to spell before calling others "an idiot." |
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On 3/12/10 11:06 AM, Bob Rankin wrote:
On Mar 11, 2:15 pm, wrote: On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:33:19 -0800 (PST), Bob Rankin wrote: speaking of deviance, Krause, how is it to live with a felony sex conviction? that was you on the Florida sex offenders list wasn't it? Pensicola. Figures you'd be an idiot. Not much else down thataway. Hey JPS, you might want to learn how to spell before calling others "an idiot." Everyone should know it is spelled "penscla," the way you spell it, right, moron? - - If the X-MimeOLE "header" doesn't say: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 then it isn't me, it's an ID spoofer. |
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On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 08:33:10 -0500, Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message m... That's just plain silly, richard. I can think of a number of instances in which demonstrations, peaceful and otherwise, got unjust laws or policies changed. I'm aure you can, too. Conflict can speed along the process. Not silly at all. I can think of demonstrations, peaceful and otherwise that have resulted in people killed or in the hospital. A high school prom isn't worth the risk. Eisboch They should have designated it as a Sock Hop. Hell's Fire, many of the girls danced together years ago and it was ignored. We have fell into a "Stupidity Pit" and some think is is normal. Let's break out the National Guard and have them stand guard to enforce "Christian Values". Damn that's already been done also. To think they shot a Southern Governor and bought him a wheel chair over dumb **** such as this. |
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On 3/12/10 11:13 AM, your kind of guy wrote:
On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 08:33:10 -0500, Eisboch wrote: wrote in message m... That's just plain silly, richard. I can think of a number of instances in which demonstrations, peaceful and otherwise, got unjust laws or policies changed. I'm aure you can, too. Conflict can speed along the process. Not silly at all. I can think of demonstrations, peaceful and otherwise that have resulted in people killed or in the hospital. A high school prom isn't worth the risk. Eisboch They should have designated it as a Sock Hop. Hell's Fire, many of the girls danced together years ago and it was ignored. We have fell into a "Stupidity Pit" and some think is is normal. Let's break out the National Guard and have them stand guard to enforce "Christian Values". Damn that's already been done also. To think they shot a Southern Governor and bought him a wheel chair over dumb **** such as this. What "they" should do is get governmental agencies out of the business of determining what is right or wrong in gender preferences. There are lots of serious issues needing attention. Who someone dates, or if adults, sleeps with or marries, is not the business of government. -- If the X-MimeOLE "header" doesn't say: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 then it isn't me, it's an ID spoofer. |
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On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:10:35 -0500, HK wrote:
On 3/12/10 11:06 AM, Bob Rankin wrote: On Mar 11, 2:15 pm, wrote: On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:33:19 -0800 (PST), Bob Rankin wrote: speaking of deviance, Krause, how is it to live with a felony sex conviction? that was you on the Florida sex offenders list wasn't it? Pensicola. Figures you'd be an idiot. Not much else down thataway. Hey JPS, you might want to learn how to spell before calling others "an idiot." Everyone should know it is spelled "penscla," the way you spell it, right, moron? You don't even know your name Bruce. You don't know how to create a signature line either. How's my girlfried/your wife, holding up lately. Haven't seen her in a while. She still on all her Med's? |
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"HK" wrote in message m... What "they" should do is get governmental agencies out of the business of determining what is right or wrong in gender preferences. There are lots of serious issues needing attention. Who someone dates, or if adults, sleeps with or marries, is not the business of government. -- I don't equate a local school committee as being big "government". It's likely a 50 year old policy that nobody has challenged or even thought about before. |
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On 3/12/10 11:35 AM, Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message m... What "they" should do is get governmental agencies out of the business of determining what is right or wrong in gender preferences. There are lots of serious issues needing attention. Who someone dates, or if adults, sleeps with or marries, is not the business of government. -- I don't equate a local school committee as being big "government". It's likely a 50 year old policy that nobody has challenged or even thought about before. Government is government. My junior year in high school, my best friend and I wrote a letter that was published in the Register in which we griped at length at the dress code that *required* that boys wear ties to class, *even* when the classroom temps were in the 80's...we had no a/c in our high school. We started a protest and a week later, on a Tuesday, *every single male* in the school refused to enter the building unless the tie rule was rescinded. The principal went ape****, but in the end, he gave in. He gave me a hard time my entire senior year, though. It was worth it. There is no reason for that mississippi school system to deny a prom to gay or lesbian couples. The system rightfully could impose and enforce a rule against alcoholic beverages. -- If the X-MimeOLE "header" doesn't say: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 then it isn't me, it's an ID spoofer. |
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On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:17:29 -0500, HK wrote:
On 3/12/10 11:13 AM, your kind of guy wrote: On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 08:33:10 -0500, Eisboch wrote: wrote in message m... That's just plain silly, richard. I can think of a number of instances in which demonstrations, peaceful and otherwise, got unjust laws or policies changed. I'm aure you can, too. Conflict can speed along the process. Not silly at all. I can think of demonstrations, peaceful and otherwise that have resulted in people killed or in the hospital. A high school prom isn't worth the risk. Eisboch They should have designated it as a Sock Hop. Hell's Fire, many of the girls danced together years ago and it was ignored. We have fell into a "Stupidity Pit" and some think is is normal. Let's break out the National Guard and have them stand guard to enforce "Christian Values". Damn that's already been done also. To think they shot a Southern Governor and bought him a wheel chair over dumb **** such as this. What "they" should do is get governmental agencies out of the business of determining what is right or wrong in gender preferences. There are lots of serious issues needing attention. Who someone dates, or if adults, sleeps with or marries, is not the business of government. I agree. But I'm not high (as in drunk) on Christian Values either. Wait an minute, That Christ fellow was trying to get a message across to the Jews of his day and that didn't work out so well either. Martyr-tum isn't such a bad gig if you know how to "work it". But you can work it. You just have be careful you don't become the martyr. It's out there for the taking. A good, easy living, can be made at other's expense. All you need is a small store front at first, then expand as much as possible telling folks what they want to hear. They will flock to hear what they can not comprehend. Song books can be purchased on Ebay, I;ll bet. We need some one to interput our laws too. Someone smarter than the bunch of "Has Beens" in black robes we have now. I suspect there might be some hanky panky going on behind that long bench too. They all belong in nursing homes. Be careful, this group will produce "mind wander" after a short viewing. |
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bpuharic wrote:
On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:14:36 -0800, "mgg" wrote: Ever seen pics of the gay pride parade in San Francisco? It doesn't matter what their sexual preference is, they are just plain weird. If they claim to represent the gay community, it's no wonder they're "bashed." blame the victim, eh? I'm with you. Just keep it private. how do you keep bigotry and hatred 'private'? they cant get spousal health insurance. they can't adopt. they can't inherit property... how is that 'private'? My wife works with a guy that feels the need to mention his "husband" (using that word), every chance he can. He'll go out of his way to mention his "husband," and I don't even know his (the husband's) name. That's the sad part. He's more intent in letting us know that he's "married" to a man, then telling us about the man himself (like his name). In other words he's flaunting his gay lifestyle to everyone he meets. What's the point? We know he's gay, so why can't he say "Gary" (or whatever his name is), instead of "husband?" It's annoying. that's what they used to say about integration Deviant has nothing to do with race. you are not oppressed. You perhaps don't have a job so you want to focus on some imagined injustice to you. Stop your nonsense. No one cares or is buying it. |
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bpuharic wrote:
On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:58:24 -0500, lil abner wrote: Enlightened? Does that mean tolerance or endorsement?? I will treat everyone the same but I will not endorse deviant behavior any more than I would devil worship. fine then commit suicide. homosexuality is normal. hatred of people who have a private life is not They want normal treatment behave as normal. Keep their bedroom etc behavior private and out of our presence. you do the same, m'kay? Where and when I was raised big city perversions and vices were not only frowned on but not tolerated any more than they would wife beating, or murder. no one gives a **** about the incestuous pig farm you were raised on Homosexuality is not normal. Why do you think it is detested in all corners of the earth since the beginning of mankind. There are enclaves of these deviants but that still doesn't make it normal any more than leprosy colonies. you are tolerated. You continue to try and force us to let you into our lives, our bedrooms, our children's classrooms and toilets. Sick. |
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On 3/12/10 11:53 AM, lil abner wrote:
bpuharic wrote: On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:58:24 -0500, lil abner wrote: Enlightened? Does that mean tolerance or endorsement?? I will treat everyone the same but I will not endorse deviant behavior any more than I would devil worship. fine then commit suicide. homosexuality is normal. hatred of people who have a private life is not They want normal treatment behave as normal. Keep their bedroom etc behavior private and out of our presence. you do the same, m'kay? Where and when I was raised big city perversions and vices were not only frowned on but not tolerated any more than they would wife beating, or murder. no one gives a **** about the incestuous pig farm you were raised on Homosexuality is not normal. Why do you think it is detested in all corners of the earth since the beginning of mankind. There are enclaves of these deviants but that still doesn't make it normal any more than leprosy colonies. you are tolerated. You continue to try and force us to let you into our lives, our bedrooms, our children's classrooms and toilets. Sick. It's pretty well established by *real* scientists that gender preference is a product of genetic coding. Thus, homosexuality *is* just another variant of what makes up "normal." I know a few gays, male and female. Doubtful any of them would want anything to do with a hateful piece of **** like you. And, I'll bet your toilet is...dirty. -- If the X-MimeOLE "header" doesn't say: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 then it isn't me, it's an ID spoofer. |
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On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:50:16 -0500, wrote:
bpuharic wrote: On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:14:36 -0800, "mgg" wrote: Ever seen pics of the gay pride parade in San Francisco? It doesn't matter what their sexual preference is, they are just plain weird. If they claim to represent the gay community, it's no wonder they're "bashed." blame the victim, eh? I'm with you. Just keep it private. how do you keep bigotry and hatred 'private'? they cant get spousal health insurance. they can't adopt. they can't inherit property... how is that 'private'? My wife works with a guy that feels the need to mention his "husband" (using that word), every chance he can. He'll go out of his way to mention his "husband," and I don't even know his (the husband's) name. That's the sad part. He's more intent in letting us know that he's "married" to a man, then telling us about the man himself (like his name). In other words he's flaunting his gay lifestyle to everyone he meets. What's the point? We know he's gay, so why can't he say "Gary" (or whatever his name is), instead of "husband?" It's annoying. that's what they used to say about integration Deviant has nothing to do with race. you are not oppressed. You perhaps don't have a job so you want to focus on some imagined injustice to you. Stop your nonsense. No one cares or is buying it. I'll just continue to pick lint from my bellybutton. So long friend. |
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On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:53:47 -0500, wrote:
bpuharic wrote: On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:58:24 -0500, lil abner wrote: Enlightened? Does that mean tolerance or endorsement?? I will treat everyone the same but I will not endorse deviant behavior any more than I would devil worship. fine then commit suicide. homosexuality is normal. hatred of people who have a private life is not They want normal treatment behave as normal. Keep their bedroom etc behavior private and out of our presence. you do the same, m'kay? Where and when I was raised big city perversions and vices were not only frowned on but not tolerated any more than they would wife beating, or murder. no one gives a **** about the incestuous pig farm you were raised on Homosexuality is not normal. Why do you think it is detested in all corners of the earth since the beginning of mankind. There are enclaves of these deviants but that still doesn't make it normal any more than leprosy colonies. you are tolerated. You continue to try and force us to let you into our lives, our bedrooms, our children's classrooms and toilets. Sick. I believe you might just be a former wienie washer. Too much denile. Give that head a shake. (Words from the past 4 u new guys.) |
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On 3/12/10 12:07 PM, lil abner wrote:
HK wrote: You just had rather have the last word so you oppose what ever someone says even though you agree mostly. I don't think any of you are queer just like to argue and be damned if you are going to let the opposition, of the moment have the last word. snerk No, I'm not gay, but that doesn't mean I am a gay basher, or someone who believes human and constitutional rights and societal politeness should be denied gays. I simply am not concerned about the gender choices of others. I live near a fairly large, very cosmopolitan city. It's perfectly normal here to see gay couples doing what other couples do. In fact, the city recently enacted legislation to allow gay marriage. Why should any of this concern me? Why should your small-mindedness and prejudices be "the last word" here or anywhere else? A pox on your ignorance. -- If the X-MimeOLE "header" doesn't say: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 then it isn't me, it's an ID spoofer. |
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HK wrote:
On 3/12/10 12:07 PM, lil abner wrote: HK wrote: You just had rather have the last word so you oppose what ever someone says even though you agree mostly. I don't think any of you are queer just like to argue and be damned if you are going to let the opposition, of the moment have the last word. snerk No, I'm not gay, but that doesn't mean I am a gay basher, or someone who believes human and constitutional rights and societal politeness should be denied gays. I simply am not concerned about the gender choices of others. I live near a fairly large, very cosmopolitan city. It's perfectly normal here to see gay couples doing what other couples do. In fact, the city recently enacted legislation to allow gay marriage. Why should any of this concern me? Why should your small-mindedness and prejudices be "the last word" here or anywhere else? A pox on your ignorance. It just means you have accepted the loose standards or really no standards. Calling people small smal minded and ignorant is just tools of the trade of deviants in their attempts to cower normal folks. A form of bullying that works for the like minded media and San Francisco freak show. |
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