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The Constitution doesn't matter
On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:14:50 -0500, HK wrote:
On 3/12/10 12:07 PM, lil abner wrote: HK wrote: You just had rather have the last word so you oppose what ever someone says even though you agree mostly. I don't think any of you are queer just like to argue and be damned if you are going to let the opposition, of the moment have the last word. snerk No, I'm not gay, but that doesn't mean I am a gay basher, or someone who believes human and constitutional rights and societal politeness should be denied gays. I simply am not concerned about the gender choices of others. I live near a fairly large, very cosmopolitan city. It's perfectly normal here to see gay couples doing what other couples do. In fact, the city recently enacted legislation to allow gay marriage. Why should any of this concern me? Why should your small-mindedness and prejudices be "the last word" here or anywhere else? A pox on your ignorance. He used a little box to stand on back on the farm. Then walked up front to get a kiss. |
The Constitution doesn't matter
On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:19:12 -0500, wrote:
HK wrote: On 3/12/10 12:07 PM, lil abner wrote: HK wrote: You just had rather have the last word so you oppose what ever someone says even though you agree mostly. I don't think any of you are queer just like to argue and be damned if you are going to let the opposition, of the moment have the last word. snerk No, I'm not gay, but that doesn't mean I am a gay basher, or someone who believes human and constitutional rights and societal politeness should be denied gays. I simply am not concerned about the gender choices of others. I live near a fairly large, very cosmopolitan city. It's perfectly normal here to see gay couples doing what other couples do. In fact, the city recently enacted legislation to allow gay marriage. Why should any of this concern me? Why should your small-mindedness and prejudices be "the last word" here or anywhere else? A pox on your ignorance. It just means you have accepted the loose standards or really no standards. Calling people small smal minded and ignorant is just tools of the trade of deviants in their attempts to cower normal folks. A form of bullying that works for the like minded media and San Francisco freak show. Is that a stutter I hear? |
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The Constitution doesn't matter
On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:19:12 -0500, lil abner wrote:
HK wrote: On 3/12/10 12:07 PM, lil abner wrote: HK wrote: You just had rather have the last word so you oppose what ever someone says even though you agree mostly. I don't think any of you are queer just like to argue and be damned if you are going to let the opposition, of the moment have the last word. snerk No, I'm not gay, but that doesn't mean I am a gay basher, or someone who believes human and constitutional rights and societal politeness should be denied gays. I simply am not concerned about the gender choices of others. I live near a fairly large, very cosmopolitan city. It's perfectly normal here to see gay couples doing what other couples do. In fact, the city recently enacted legislation to allow gay marriage. Why should any of this concern me? Why should your small-mindedness and prejudices be "the last word" here or anywhere else? A pox on your ignorance. It just means you have accepted the loose standards or really no standards. Calling people small smal minded and ignorant is just tools of the trade of deviants in their attempts to cower normal folks. A form of bullying that works for the like minded media and San Francisco freak show. And you would consider yourself normal? God, Mother Nature or The Hairy Black Hole (using simple metaphors in order that you may follow along) brought creatures onto the planet whose sexual orientation isn't that of the majority and yet these anomolies occur in damned near every species inhabiting the planet. Would you prefer they be killed than give them equal rights? Are you among the idiots who insist their orientation is a choice? Where the **** is your head? Holy ****. |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... So, you're the one who gets to define normal? I don't think so. As an attorney, I would think you would agree that the appropriate way to have dealt with this situation would have been to petition the district school committee to revise their policy *before* the prom was scheduled. The policy in force requires dates to be of the opposite sex. Instead of creating a public media circus, the girl and her herd of ACLU lawyers should have sought to have the opposite sex policy changed or dropped. If they had, the school sponsored prom would have gone on with probably only a few raised eyebrows. I think the committee acted appropriately. They sought to avoid any demonstrations or problems at a school sponsored event. They suggested that perhaps a private organization sponsor the prom instead. In a culture based on the rule of laws, it seems that now-a-days adherence to existing laws or rules is optional. Eisboch I think I'll defer to the ACLU about the process. They're pretty good at what they do. It sounds like the ruling was discriminatory at best. They seem to be a bunch of bullies, who when they can't get their way, take their marbles and leave. They punished a bunch of kids who either didn't know or didn't care about two girls. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
... "HK" wrote in message m... That's just plain silly, richard. I can think of a number of instances in which demonstrations, peaceful and otherwise, got unjust laws or policies changed. I'm aure you can, too. Conflict can speed along the process. Not silly at all. I can think of demonstrations, peaceful and otherwise that have resulted in people killed or in the hospital. A high school prom isn't worth the risk. Eisboch According to you. Maybe the Selma march wasn't "worth the risk"? -- Nom=de=Plume |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
... "HK" wrote in message m... What "they" should do is get governmental agencies out of the business of determining what is right or wrong in gender preferences. There are lots of serious issues needing attention. Who someone dates, or if adults, sleeps with or marries, is not the business of government. -- I don't equate a local school committee as being big "government". It's likely a 50 year old policy that nobody has challenged or even thought about before. It's about time. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
... "HK" wrote in message m... On 3/12/10 3:26 AM, Eisboch wrote: wrote in message ... So, you're the one who gets to define normal? I don't think so. As an attorney, I would think you would agree that the appropriate way to have dealt with this situation would have been to petition the district school committee to revise their policy *before* the prom was scheduled. The policy in force requires dates to be of the opposite sex. Instead of creating a public media circus, the girl and her herd of ACLU lawyers should have sought to have the opposite sex policy changed or dropped. If they had, the school sponsored prom would have gone on with probably only a few raised eyebrows. I think the committee acted appropriately. They sought to avoid any demonstrations or problems at a school sponsored event. They suggested that perhaps a private organization sponsor the prom instead. In a culture based on the rule of laws, it seems that now-a-days adherence to existing laws or rules is optional. Eisboch In *most* cases, laws that are in existence only to discriminate based upon race, gender, whatever, should be considered unConstitutional and just plain ignored. It is not the state's business to determine who a teen can or cannot take to a celebratory event like a prom. In Virginia not so long ago, it was "illegal" for blacks and whites to marry each other. That law was unConstitutional and mostly ignored up until the day it was tossed in the trash. Sometimes, when trying to get unjust, unConstitutional laws dumped, it is necessary to create "a public media circus." There's nothing wrong with demonstrations, especially if the demonstators are polite. Of course, Mississippi has an colorful history in how it treats demonstrators. It used to shoot them. You are walking a fine line there, Harry. Who decides what laws or, in this case policy, is unjust? You are giving evidence to my point .... if you don't agree or like it ... ignore it. Recognition of a law becomes optional. All your points about discriminate based upon race, gender, etc. are valid. So, challenge them at a school committee meeting or in court to have the policy changed. That didn't happen in this case apparently, so the committee made the wise choice of canceling the prom. Yeah, by punishing a bunch of innocent kids... -- Nom=de=Plume |
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"lil abner" wrote in message
... HK wrote: On 3/12/10 12:07 PM, lil abner wrote: HK wrote: You just had rather have the last word so you oppose what ever someone says even though you agree mostly. I don't think any of you are queer just like to argue and be damned if you are going to let the opposition, of the moment have the last word. snerk No, I'm not gay, but that doesn't mean I am a gay basher, or someone who believes human and constitutional rights and societal politeness should be denied gays. I simply am not concerned about the gender choices of others. I live near a fairly large, very cosmopolitan city. It's perfectly normal here to see gay couples doing what other couples do. In fact, the city recently enacted legislation to allow gay marriage. Why should any of this concern me? Why should your small-mindedness and prejudices be "the last word" here or anywhere else? A pox on your ignorance. It just means you have accepted the loose standards or really no standards. Calling people small smal minded and ignorant is just tools of the trade of deviants in their attempts to cower normal folks. A form of bullying that works for the like minded media and San Francisco freak show. You're the one yelling a screaming about deviant behavior. Why don't you just shut up. No one with any brains cares what you're little mind holds. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 06:33:12 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
"bpuharic" wrote in message .. . On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 03:26:51 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: how about jim crow laws? should we have obeyed them or protested them and disobeyed them? Laws and the social acceptance of them are two different things. If the laws are outdated, unenforceable or just plain wrong, there is a legal process available to change them. Inviting or risking conflict and violence is not the means. why obey laws that are plainly unjust? one way to change them is to disobey them Eisboch |
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On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:50:16 -0500, lil abner wrote:
bpuharic wrote: On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:14:36 -0800, "mgg" wrote: It's annoying. that's what they used to say about integration ever read about 'loving vs VA?' it sure DOES have to do with integration. it used to be illegal for black guys to **** white women you're just too stupid to know that Deviant has nothing to do with race. you are not oppressed. You perhaps don't have a job so you want to focus on some imagined injustice to you. Stop your nonsense. No one cares or is buying it. deviant is a matter of perception. at one time you right wing christians used to think it was deviant for blacks and whites to have sex. now you hate gays. dont you ever learn? |
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On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:53:47 -0500, lil abner wrote:
bpuharic wrote: On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:58:24 -0500, lil abner wrote: no one gives a **** about the incestuous pig farm you were raised on Homosexuality is not normal what is 'normal'? how do you know it's not 'normal'? .. Why do you think it is detested in all corners of the earth since the beginning of mankind uh..you DO realized you just contradicted yourself, right? it's SO normal it's been a feature, as you just admitted, of most societies on earth and many societies DID consider it 'normal'...the greeks, for example.. .. There are enclaves of these deviants but that still doesn't make it normal any more than leprosy colonies. you are tolerated. You continue to try and force us to let you into our lives, our bedrooms, our children's classrooms and toilets. Sick. sure we can. just like normal people forced you deivants to let blacks live normal lives. |
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On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:19:12 -0500, lil abner wrote:
It just means you have accepted the loose standards or really no standards. Calling people small smal minded and ignorant is just tools of the trade of deviants in their attempts to cower normal folks. A form of bullying that works for the like minded media and San Francisco freak show. you, OTOH, have the KKK on your side to show us what 'normal' is... |
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"bpuharic" wrote in message ... On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 06:33:12 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "bpuharic" wrote in message . .. On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 03:26:51 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: how about jim crow laws? should we have obeyed them or protested them and disobeyed them? Laws and the social acceptance of them are two different things. If the laws are outdated, unenforceable or just plain wrong, there is a legal process available to change them. Inviting or risking conflict and violence is not the means. why obey laws that are plainly unjust? one way to change them is to disobey them Eisboch And if the court decides your version of the law is in error, you spend time in the greybar hotel. |
The Constitution doesn't matter
On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:57:17 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote: "bpuharic" wrote in message .. . On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 06:33:12 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: why obey laws that are plainly unjust? one way to change them is to disobey them Eisboch And if the court decides your version of the law is in error, you spend time in the greybar hotel. as MLK found out on several occasions. |
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