On Feb 9, 10:37*pm, "*e#c" wrote:
On Feb 9, 2:30*pm, jamesgangnc wrote:



On Feb 9, 12:27*pm, Tim wrote:

On Feb 9, 11:13*am, wrote:

On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 08:50:17 -0800 (PST), "*e#c"
wrote:

On Feb 9, 10:39 am, Tim wrote:
Ugh!

I went and pulled the tire off my small boat to get it changed out,
and I thought while I was there, I'd look in to see if my first aid
kit was still in good shape. I'll probably replace it too, but....

I went to sit down on the right seat and it felt a bi spungy. Oh,oh...

I looked underneath it and there were like dry rotted plywood
splinters under the box itself. I knew it was coming last year, but
now they're deteriorating pretty hard. So I looked around to see what
factory made seats are looking like, and well, I found conventional
seats that arn't in the same color scheme as what my boat is, and I'd
have to have them re-apolstered to match. It's a nice little boat and
i'd like to keep it that way. so what should I do? Make new boxes? or
buy the crate stuff.

Now another thing, I've always thought these seats were sort of small,
and i'm not looking to make a livingroom couch out of them, but I
suppose that while I'm wrting this I'm still convincing myself that
making the boxes might be a bigger PIA than buying them.

Decisions, decisions.

BTW, the boat is a 1983 Chris Craft 169 scorpion.

I'm having pedestals built for the front seats of my boat right now.
Instead of Marine Ply, I opted for SOLID Mahogany.3/4 thick. Cost a
bit, but the end result will look better than any Marine Ply could.. A
friends Son makes custom stairways for a living, and does some very
nice work.He's making the boxes, and I will stain, and finish them..
I'd keep the Scorpion.

There is really no such thing as "dry rot" it is water that rots wood
and, unfortunately, boats are in the water (well most of them).
If you can't keep wood dry it will all rot. Usually this is done with
some kind of barrier protection like paint, varnish or resin.
Personally I prefer avoiding wood in boat furniture because you will
always have some degree of moisture under the upholstery. Plywood is
really the hardest to seal because the laminations can move
independently and open up a seam in the barrier.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well, wet, or dry, it's still rotting and yes, it's ply wood, but i's
lasted out for abotu 28 years so I can't ocmplain. and 've tried o
keep the boat in the dry that is when not on the lake, but still. I
dont' kow what the prevous owners subjected it to.

So....- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Just get some ply and cut new pieces. *Staple the orginal stuff back
to it. *That's the cheapest solution.

I tried that, but should've used 3/4 , then encapsulated with
Resin.The plastic was very old, and started to shrink the moment I
took it off. Then cracked the next two uses, and the foam got wet.
Thats when I had the goofy idea to switch to Astro Van Buckets. Grey
matched the interior, but you gotta bag em after the days over to keep
rain out. A mint, matched pair of Grey ones (same as interior) was
$100.00

Plywood, hell no, I save my scrap ply for important stuff like fixin
the dog fence. I'd use pieces of scrap pallets held together with
duct tape.
Or....G10

On 2/10/10 10:30 AM, Frogwatch wrote:
On Feb 9, 10:37 pm, wrote:
On Feb 9, 2:30 pm, wrote:



On Feb 9, 12:27 pm, wrote:

On Feb 9, 11:13 am, wrote:

On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 08:50:17 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Feb 9, 10:39 am, wrote:
Ugh!

I went and pulled the tire off my small boat to get it changed out,
and I thought while I was there, I'd look in to see if my first aid
kit was still in good shape. I'll probably replace it too, but...

I went to sit down on the right seat and it felt a bi spungy. Oh,oh...

I looked underneath it and there were like dry rotted plywood
splinters under the box itself. I knew it was coming last year, but
now they're deteriorating pretty hard. So I looked around to see what
factory made seats are looking like, and well, I found conventional
seats that arn't in the same color scheme as what my boat is, and I'd
have to have them re-apolstered to match. It's a nice little boat and
i'd like to keep it that way. so what should I do? Make new boxes? or
buy the crate stuff.

Now another thing, I've always thought these seats were sort of small,
and i'm not looking to make a livingroom couch out of them, but I
suppose that while I'm wrting this I'm still convincing myself that
making the boxes might be a bigger PIA than buying them.

Decisions, decisions.

BTW, the boat is a 1983 Chris Craft 169 scorpion.

I'm having pedestals built for the front seats of my boat right now.
Instead of Marine Ply, I opted for SOLID Mahogany.3/4 thick. Cost a
bit, but the end result will look better than any Marine Ply could. A
friends Son makes custom stairways for a living, and does some very
nice work.He's making the boxes, and I will stain, and finish them.
I'd keep the Scorpion.

There is really no such thing as "dry rot" it is water that rots wood
and, unfortunately, boats are in the water (well most of them).
If you can't keep wood dry it will all rot. Usually this is done with
some kind of barrier protection like paint, varnish or resin.
Personally I prefer avoiding wood in boat furniture because you will
always have some degree of moisture under the upholstery. Plywood is
really the hardest to seal because the laminations can move
independently and open up a seam in the barrier.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well, wet, or dry, it's still rotting and yes, it's ply wood, but i's
lasted out for abotu 28 years so I can't ocmplain. and 've tried o
keep the boat in the dry that is when not on the lake, but still. I
dont' kow what the prevous owners subjected it to.

So....- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Just get some ply and cut new pieces. Staple the orginal stuff back
to it. That's the cheapest solution.

I tried that, but should've used 3/4 , then encapsulated with
Resin.The plastic was very old, and started to shrink the moment I
took it off. Then cracked the next two uses, and the foam got wet.
Thats when I had the goofy idea to switch to Astro Van Buckets. Grey
matched the interior, but you gotta bag em after the days over to keep
rain out. A mint, matched pair of Grey ones (same as interior) was
$100.00

Plywood, hell no, I save my scrap ply for important stuff like fixin
the dog fence. I'd use pieces of scrap pallets held together with
duct tape.
Or....G10


Geez, Froggy, I thought you were off on some sailing adventure to the
Bahamas...what happened, did the fiberglass on your wreck of a boat
delaminate? Did the manmade fiber moths eat your sails? Did the airplane
glue you used to seal those through-hulls dissolve?

On Feb 10, 10:33*am, Harry wrote:
On 2/10/10 10:30 AM, Frogwatch wrote:



On Feb 9, 10:37 pm, *wrote:
On Feb 9, 2:30 pm, *wrote:

On Feb 9, 12:27 pm, *wrote:

On Feb 9, 11:13 am, wrote:

On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 08:50:17 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Feb 9, 10:39 am, *wrote:
Ugh!

I went and pulled the tire off my small boat to get it changed out,
and I thought while I was there, I'd look in to see if my first aid
kit was still in good shape. I'll probably replace it too, but...

I went to sit down on the right seat and it felt a bi spungy. Oh,oh...

I looked underneath it and there were like dry rotted plywood
splinters under the box itself. I knew it was coming last year, but
now they're deteriorating pretty hard. So I looked around to see what
factory made seats are looking like, and well, I found conventional
seats that arn't in the same color scheme as what my boat is, and I'd
have to have them re-apolstered to match. It's a nice little boat and
i'd like to keep it that way. so what should I do? Make new boxes? or
buy the crate stuff.

Now another thing, I've always thought these seats were sort of small,
and i'm not looking to make a livingroom couch out of them, but I
suppose that while I'm wrting this I'm still convincing myself that
making the boxes might be a bigger PIA than buying them.

Decisions, decisions.

BTW, the boat is a 1983 Chris Craft 169 scorpion.

I'm having pedestals built for the front seats of my boat right now.
Instead of Marine Ply, I opted for SOLID Mahogany.3/4 thick. Cost a
bit, but the end result will look better than any Marine Ply could.. A
friends Son makes custom stairways for a living, and does some very
nice work.He's making the boxes, and I will stain, and finish them..
I'd keep the Scorpion.

There is really no such thing as "dry rot" it is water that rots wood
and, unfortunately, boats are in the water (well most of them).
If you can't keep wood dry it will all rot. Usually this is done with
some kind of barrier protection like paint, varnish or resin.
Personally I prefer avoiding wood in boat furniture because you will
always have some degree of moisture under the upholstery. Plywood is
really the hardest to seal because the laminations can move
independently and open up a seam in the barrier.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well, wet, or dry, it's still rotting and yes, it's ply wood, but i's
lasted out for abotu 28 years so I can't ocmplain. and 've tried o
keep the boat in the dry that is when not on the lake, but still. I
dont' kow what the prevous owners subjected it to.

So....- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Just get some ply and cut new pieces. *Staple the orginal stuff back
to it. *That's the cheapest solution.

I tried that, but should've used 3/4 , then encapsulated with
Resin.The plastic was very old, and started to shrink the moment I
took it off. Then cracked the next two uses, and the foam got wet.
Thats when I had the goofy idea to switch to Astro Van Buckets. Grey
matched the interior, but you gotta bag em after the days over to keep
rain out. A mint, matched pair of Grey ones (same as interior) was
$100.00

Plywood, hell no, I save my scrap ply for important stuff like fixin
the dog fence. *I'd use pieces of scrap pallets held together with
duct tape.
Or....G10

Geez, Froggy, I thought you were off on some sailing adventure to the
Bahamas...what happened, did the fiberglass on your wreck of a boat
delaminate? Did the manmade fiber moths eat your sails? Did the airplane
glue you used to seal those through-hulls dissolve?

Harry:

I figure that somehow I am one of the most fortunate people on this
planet cuz I love my work and I have a family I love too. So,
vacation is mostly just to get enough perspective to realize it once
again. Consequently, I have never been able to stay away from work
for very long. Today, I get to:
1. Fix an electron microscope (it is 30 years old and bought on e-bay
for $2200, original cost, $250,000+. Has worked for several years
too.)
2. Measure Nitrogen in something that has never been measured (that
is about as cool as it gets)
3. Invent a new type of x-ray mirror.
My normal life is geek paradise so vacation often gets neglected.
However, to satisfy the daughter, I will continue my trip next week..

On 2/10/10 12:19 PM, Frogwatch wrote:


Harry:

I figure that somehow I am one of the most fortunate people on this
planet cuz I love my work and I have a family I love too. So,
vacation is mostly just to get enough perspective to realize it once
again. Consequently, I have never been able to stay away from work
for very long. Today, I get to:
1. Fix an electron microscope (it is 30 years old and bought on e-bay
for $2200, original cost, $250,000+. Has worked for several years
too.)
2. Measure Nitrogen in something that has never been measured (that
is about as cool as it gets)
3. Invent a new type of x-ray mirror.
My normal life is geek paradise so vacation often gets neglected.
However, to satisfy the daughter, I will continue my trip next week..


Are you as sloppy and cheap in your shop as you are with your boats?
Should we be expecting a huge "ka-boom" or the release of highly
dangerous amounts of x-ray radiation? Do your employees glow in the dark?

In article a060afed-449b-481f-89ae-e341b94c2e10
@q16g2000yqq.googlegroups.com, says...

On Feb 10, 10:33*am, Harry wrote:
On 2/10/10 10:30 AM, Frogwatch wrote:



On Feb 9, 10:37 pm, *wrote:
On Feb 9, 2:30 pm, *wrote:

On Feb 9, 12:27 pm, *wrote:

On Feb 9, 11:13 am, wrote:

On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 08:50:17 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Feb 9, 10:39 am, *wrote:
Ugh!

I went and pulled the tire off my small boat to get it changed out,
and I thought while I was there, I'd look in to see if my first aid
kit was still in good shape. I'll probably replace it too, but...

I went to sit down on the right seat and it felt a bi spungy. Oh,oh...

I looked underneath it and there were like dry rotted plywood
splinters under the box itself. I knew it was coming last year, but
now they're deteriorating pretty hard. So I looked around to see what
factory made seats are looking like, and well, I found conventional
seats that arn't in the same color scheme as what my boat is, and I'd
have to have them re-apolstered to match. It's a nice little boat and
i'd like to keep it that way. so what should I do? Make new boxes? or
buy the crate stuff.

Now another thing, I've always thought these seats were sort of small,
and i'm not looking to make a livingroom couch out of them, but I
suppose that while I'm wrting this I'm still convincing myself that
making the boxes might be a bigger PIA than buying them.

Decisions, decisions.

BTW, the boat is a 1983 Chris Craft 169 scorpion.

I'm having pedestals built for the front seats of my boat right now.
Instead of Marine Ply, I opted for SOLID Mahogany.3/4 thick. Cost a
bit, but the end result will look better than any Marine Ply could. A
friends Son makes custom stairways for a living, and does some very
nice work.He's making the boxes, and I will stain, and finish them.
I'd keep the Scorpion.

There is really no such thing as "dry rot" it is water that rots wood
and, unfortunately, boats are in the water (well most of them).
If you can't keep wood dry it will all rot. Usually this is done with
some kind of barrier protection like paint, varnish or resin.
Personally I prefer avoiding wood in boat furniture because you will
always have some degree of moisture under the upholstery. Plywood is
really the hardest to seal because the laminations can move
independently and open up a seam in the barrier.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well, wet, or dry, it's still rotting and yes, it's ply wood, but i's
lasted out for abotu 28 years so I can't ocmplain. and 've tried o
keep the boat in the dry that is when not on the lake, but still. I
dont' kow what the prevous owners subjected it to.

So....- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Just get some ply and cut new pieces. *Staple the orginal stuff back
to it. *That's the cheapest solution.

I tried that, but should've used 3/4 , then encapsulated with
Resin.The plastic was very old, and started to shrink the moment I
took it off. Then cracked the next two uses, and the foam got wet.
Thats when I had the goofy idea to switch to Astro Van Buckets. Grey
matched the interior, but you gotta bag em after the days over to keep
rain out. A mint, matched pair of Grey ones (same as interior) was
$100.00

Plywood, hell no, I save my scrap ply for important stuff like fixin
the dog fence. *I'd use pieces of scrap pallets held together with
duct tape.
Or....G10

Geez, Froggy, I thought you were off on some sailing adventure to the
Bahamas...what happened, did the fiberglass on your wreck of a boat
delaminate? Did the manmade fiber moths eat your sails? Did the airplane
glue you used to seal those through-hulls dissolve?

Harry:

I figure that somehow I am one of the most fortunate people on this
planet cuz I love my work and I have a family I love too. So,
vacation is mostly just to get enough perspective to realize it once
again. Consequently, I have never been able to stay away from work
for very long. Today, I get to:
1. Fix an electron microscope (it is 30 years old and bought on e-bay
for $2200, original cost, $250,000+. Has worked for several years
too.)
2. Measure Nitrogen in something that has never been measured (that
is about as cool as it gets)
3. Invent a new type of x-ray mirror.
My normal life is geek paradise so vacation often gets neglected.
However, to satisfy the daughter, I will continue my trip next week..

Be careful how much info you give Harry, it will end up being his next
persona in some other news group

Good on you though for having so much fun, it would be great to be able
to geek out like that.

Scotty

On Feb 10, 12:24*pm, I am Tosk
wrote:
In article a060afed-449b-481f-89ae-e341b94c2e10
@q16g2000yqq.googlegroups.com, says...





On Feb 10, 10:33*am, Harry wrote:
On 2/10/10 10:30 AM, Frogwatch wrote:

On Feb 9, 10:37 pm, *wrote:
On Feb 9, 2:30 pm, *wrote:

On Feb 9, 12:27 pm, *wrote:

On Feb 9, 11:13 am, wrote:

On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 08:50:17 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Feb 9, 10:39 am, *wrote:
Ugh!

I went and pulled the tire off my small boat to get it changed out,
and I thought while I was there, I'd look in to see if my first aid
kit was still in good shape. I'll probably replace it too, but...

I went to sit down on the right seat and it felt a bi spungy. Oh,oh...

I looked underneath it and there were like dry rotted plywood
splinters under the box itself. I knew it was coming last year, but
now they're deteriorating pretty hard. So I looked around to see what
factory made seats are looking like, and well, I found conventional
seats that arn't in the same color scheme as what my boat is, and I'd
have to have them re-apolstered to match. It's a nice little boat and
i'd like to keep it that way. so what should I do? Make new boxes? or
buy the crate stuff.

Now another thing, I've always thought these seats were sort of small,
and i'm not looking to make a livingroom couch out of them, but I
suppose that while I'm wrting this I'm still convincing myself that
making the boxes might be a bigger PIA than buying them.

Decisions, decisions.

BTW, the boat is a 1983 Chris Craft 169 scorpion.

I'm having pedestals built for the front seats of my boat right now.
Instead of Marine Ply, I opted for SOLID Mahogany.3/4 thick. Cost a
bit, but the end result will look better than any Marine Ply could. A
friends Son makes custom stairways for a living, and does some very
nice work.He's making the boxes, and I will stain, and finish them.
I'd keep the Scorpion.

There is really no such thing as "dry rot" it is water that rots wood
and, unfortunately, boats are in the water (well most of them).
If you can't keep wood dry it will all rot. Usually this is done with
some kind of barrier protection like paint, varnish or resin.
Personally I prefer avoiding wood in boat furniture because you will
always have some degree of moisture under the upholstery. Plywood is
really the hardest to seal because the laminations can move
independently and open up a seam in the barrier.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well, wet, or dry, it's still rotting and yes, it's ply wood, but i's
lasted out for abotu 28 years so I can't ocmplain. and 've tried o
keep the boat in the dry that is when not on the lake, but still.. I
dont' kow what the prevous owners subjected it to.

So....- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Just get some ply and cut new pieces. *Staple the orginal stuff back
to it. *That's the cheapest solution.

I tried that, but should've used 3/4 , then encapsulated with
Resin.The plastic was very old, and started to shrink the moment I
took it off. Then cracked the next two uses, and the foam got wet.
Thats when I had the goofy idea to switch to Astro Van Buckets. Grey
matched the interior, but you gotta bag em after the days over to keep
rain out. A mint, matched pair of Grey ones (same as interior) was
$100.00

Plywood, hell no, I save my scrap ply for important stuff like fixin
the dog fence. *I'd use pieces of scrap pallets held together with
duct tape.
Or....G10

Geez, Froggy, I thought you were off on some sailing adventure to the
Bahamas...what happened, did the fiberglass on your wreck of a boat
delaminate? Did the manmade fiber moths eat your sails? Did the airplane
glue you used to seal those through-hulls dissolve?

Harry:

I figure that somehow I am one of the most fortunate people on this
planet cuz I love my work and I have a family I love too. *So,
vacation is mostly just to get enough perspective to realize it once
again. *Consequently, I have never been able to stay away from work
for very long. *Today, I get to:
1. *Fix an electron microscope (it is 30 years old and bought on e-bay
for $2200, original cost, $250,000+. *Has worked for several years
too.)
2. *Measure Nitrogen in something that has never been measured (that
is about as cool as it gets)
3. *Invent a new type of x-ray mirror.
My normal life is geek paradise so vacation often gets neglected.
However, to satisfy the daughter, I will continue my trip next week..

Be careful how much info you give Harry, it will end up being his next
persona in some other news group

Good on you though for having so much fun, it would be great to be able
to geek out like that.

Scotty

Nobody glows ........yet but we do have giant mutant centipedes. I
figger I can attach a vacuum hose to em and sell them as the latest
biological way to clean floors.
We also have a huge skink that hangs out here, neighborhood cats have
been disappearing but so far nobody has made the connection.

On 2/10/10 12:24 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In articlea060afed-449b-481f-89ae-e341b94c2e10
@q16g2000yqq.googlegroups.com, says...

On Feb 10, 10:33 am, wrote:
On 2/10/10 10:30 AM, Frogwatch wrote:



On Feb 9, 10:37 pm, wrote:
On Feb 9, 2:30 pm, wrote:

On Feb 9, 12:27 pm, wrote:

On Feb 9, 11:13 am, wrote:

On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 08:50:17 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Feb 9, 10:39 am, wrote:
Ugh!

I went and pulled the tire off my small boat to get it changed out,
and I thought while I was there, I'd look in to see if my first aid
kit was still in good shape. I'll probably replace it too, but...

I went to sit down on the right seat and it felt a bi spungy. Oh,oh...

I looked underneath it and there were like dry rotted plywood
splinters under the box itself. I knew it was coming last year, but
now they're deteriorating pretty hard. So I looked around to see what
factory made seats are looking like, and well, I found conventional
seats that arn't in the same color scheme as what my boat is, and I'd
have to have them re-apolstered to match. It's a nice little boat and
i'd like to keep it that way. so what should I do? Make new boxes? or
buy the crate stuff.

Now another thing, I've always thought these seats were sort of small,
and i'm not looking to make a livingroom couch out of them, but I
suppose that while I'm wrting this I'm still convincing myself that
making the boxes might be a bigger PIA than buying them.

Decisions, decisions.

BTW, the boat is a 1983 Chris Craft 169 scorpion.

I'm having pedestals built for the front seats of my boat right now.
Instead of Marine Ply, I opted for SOLID Mahogany.3/4 thick. Cost a
bit, but the end result will look better than any Marine Ply could. A
friends Son makes custom stairways for a living, and does some very
nice work.He's making the boxes, and I will stain, and finish them.
I'd keep the Scorpion.

There is really no such thing as "dry rot" it is water that rots wood
and, unfortunately, boats are in the water (well most of them).
If you can't keep wood dry it will all rot. Usually this is done with
some kind of barrier protection like paint, varnish or resin.
Personally I prefer avoiding wood in boat furniture because you will
always have some degree of moisture under the upholstery. Plywood is
really the hardest to seal because the laminations can move
independently and open up a seam in the barrier.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well, wet, or dry, it's still rotting and yes, it's ply wood, but i's
lasted out for abotu 28 years so I can't ocmplain. and 've tried o
keep the boat in the dry that is when not on the lake, but still. I
dont' kow what the prevous owners subjected it to.

So....- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Just get some ply and cut new pieces. Staple the orginal stuff back
to it. That's the cheapest solution.

I tried that, but should've used 3/4 , then encapsulated with
Resin.The plastic was very old, and started to shrink the moment I
took it off. Then cracked the next two uses, and the foam got wet.
Thats when I had the goofy idea to switch to Astro Van Buckets. Grey
matched the interior, but you gotta bag em after the days over to keep
rain out. A mint, matched pair of Grey ones (same as interior) was
$100.00

Plywood, hell no, I save my scrap ply for important stuff like fixin
the dog fence. I'd use pieces of scrap pallets held together with
duct tape.
Or....G10

Geez, Froggy, I thought you were off on some sailing adventure to the
Bahamas...what happened, did the fiberglass on your wreck of a boat
delaminate? Did the manmade fiber moths eat your sails? Did the airplane
glue you used to seal those through-hulls dissolve?

Harry:

I figure that somehow I am one of the most fortunate people on this
planet cuz I love my work and I have a family I love too. So,
vacation is mostly just to get enough perspective to realize it once
again. Consequently, I have never been able to stay away from work
for very long. Today, I get to:
1. Fix an electron microscope (it is 30 years old and bought on e-bay
for $2200, original cost, $250,000+. Has worked for several years
too.)
2. Measure Nitrogen in something that has never been measured (that
is about as cool as it gets)
3. Invent a new type of x-ray mirror.
My normal life is geek paradise so vacation often gets neglected.
However, to satisfy the daughter, I will continue my trip next week..

Be careful how much info you give Harry, it will end up being his next
persona in some other news group

Good on you though for having so much fun, it would be great to be able
to geek out like that.

Scotty


What other newsgroup would that be, **** for brains, or are you
hallucinating again because of those mushrooms you picked for last
night's dinner?