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US delaying needed supplies?
We keep hearing complaints that the US military is hogging the main airport
with its' one runway for their own purposes (flying in soldiers) rather than letting all the relief planes arrive. Saw a report tonight of a makeshift hospital, a couple hundred feet from the airport, sewing a couple of kids up without anesthetic or other medical supplies. Might be time for the Americans to go out and play soldier while someone else runs the airport. The Haitian people need all manner of medical supplies today...not next week. |
US delaying needed supplies?
Don White wrote:
We keep hearing complaints that the US military is hogging the main airport with its' one runway for their own purposes (flying in soldiers) rather than letting all the relief planes arrive. Saw a report tonight of a makeshift hospital, a couple hundred feet from the airport, sewing a couple of kids up without anesthetic or other medical supplies. Might be time for the Americans to go out and play soldier while someone else runs the airport. The Haitian people need all manner of medical supplies today...not next week. Full employment for the military? |
US delaying needed supplies?
"Harry" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: We keep hearing complaints that the US military is hogging the main airport with its' one runway for their own purposes (flying in soldiers) rather than letting all the relief planes arrive. Saw a report tonight of a makeshift hospital, a couple hundred feet from the airport, sewing a couple of kids up without anesthetic or other medical supplies. Might be time for the Americans to go out and play soldier while someone else runs the airport. The Haitian people need all manner of medical supplies today...not next week. Full employment for the military? Might be. The French and Doctors Without Borders were also complaining about the big bottleneck and the slow pace of getting supplies out where they're needed. |
US delaying needed supplies?
Don White wrote:
"Harry" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: We keep hearing complaints that the US military is hogging the main airport with its' one runway for their own purposes (flying in soldiers) rather than letting all the relief planes arrive. Saw a report tonight of a makeshift hospital, a couple hundred feet from the airport, sewing a couple of kids up without anesthetic or other medical supplies. Might be time for the Americans to go out and play soldier while someone else runs the airport. The Haitian people need all manner of medical supplies today...not next week. Full employment for the military? Might be. The French and Doctors Without Borders were also complaining about the big bottleneck and the slow pace of getting supplies out where they're needed. Who would run it? The Haitian Officials was apparently still running the airport in some capacity. There is only so much room to land and park. The Chinese held up landings, at one point, while they posed their aircraft and "Workers" for a photo op. There was a msnbc report, I think, that they had more food than they could distribute or store. The Medical needs seem to be huge. It takes time. I think our People are doing a great job. |
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"lil abner" wrote in message
... Don White wrote: "Harry" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: We keep hearing complaints that the US military is hogging the main airport with its' one runway for their own purposes (flying in soldiers) rather than letting all the relief planes arrive. Saw a report tonight of a makeshift hospital, a couple hundred feet from the airport, sewing a couple of kids up without anesthetic or other medical supplies. Might be time for the Americans to go out and play soldier while someone else runs the airport. The Haitian people need all manner of medical supplies today...not next week. Full employment for the military? Might be. The French and Doctors Without Borders were also complaining about the big bottleneck and the slow pace of getting supplies out where they're needed. Who would run it? The Haitian Officials was apparently still running the airport in some capacity. There is only so much room to land and park. The Chinese held up landings, at one point, while they posed their aircraft and "Workers" for a photo op. There was a msnbc report, I think, that they had more food than they could distribute or store. The Medical needs seem to be huge. It takes time. I think our People are doing a great job. I do as well, but I also think the Israelies are also. They had their portable hospitals up and running almost immediately. -- Nom=de=Plume |
US delaying needed supplies?
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 22:57:52 -0400, "Don White"
wrote: We keep hearing complaints that the US military is hogging the main airport with its' one runway for their own purposes (flying in soldiers) rather than letting all the relief planes arrive. Saw a report tonight of a makeshift hospital, a couple hundred feet from the airport, sewing a couple of kids up without anesthetic or other medical supplies. Might be time for the Americans to go out and play soldier while someone else runs the airport. The Haitian people need all manner of medical supplies today...not next week. ever been involved in a mass casualty event? the logistics are incredible. the 2nd guessers and backbench warmers can sit this one out. |
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US delaying needed supplies?
Harry Krause wrote:
bpuharic wrote: On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 22:57:52 -0400, "Don White" wrote: We keep hearing complaints that the US military is hogging the main airport with its' one runway for their own purposes (flying in soldiers) rather than letting all the relief planes arrive. Saw a report tonight of a makeshift hospital, a couple hundred feet from the airport, sewing a couple of kids up without anesthetic or other medical supplies. Might be time for the Americans to go out and play soldier while someone else runs the airport. The Haitian people need all manner of medical supplies today...not next week. ever been involved in a mass casualty event? the logistics are incredible. the 2nd guessers and backbench warmers can sit this one out. Donnie is my best buddy, but he suffers from a severe inferiority complex. It is common among Canadians, Donnie ... Ahh...I see the ID spoofing assholes of rec.boats, aka the flajim crowd, are active already today. |
US delaying needed supplies?
Harry wrote:
Harry Krause wrote: bpuharic wrote: On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 22:57:52 -0400, "Don White" wrote: We keep hearing complaints that the US military is hogging the main airport with its' one runway for their own purposes (flying in soldiers) rather than letting all the relief planes arrive. Saw a report tonight of a makeshift hospital, a couple hundred feet from the airport, sewing a couple of kids up without anesthetic or other medical supplies. Might be time for the Americans to go out and play soldier while someone else runs the airport. The Haitian people need all manner of medical supplies today...not next week. ever been involved in a mass casualty event? the logistics are incredible. the 2nd guessers and backbench warmers can sit this one out. Donnie is my best buddy, but he suffers from a severe inferiority complex. It is common among Canadians, Donnie ... Ahh...I see the ID spoofing assholes of rec.boats, aka the flajim crowd, are active already today. Ahh....Is the Harry Krause crowd going to continue to drive away boaters that come here to ask questions and talk about boats? |
US delaying needed supplies?
Harry wrote:
Harry wrote: Harry Krause wrote: bpuharic wrote: On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 22:57:52 -0400, "Don White" wrote: We keep hearing complaints that the US military is hogging the main airport with its' one runway for their own purposes (flying in soldiers) rather than letting all the relief planes arrive. Saw a report tonight of a makeshift hospital, a couple hundred feet from the airport, sewing a couple of kids up without anesthetic or other medical supplies. Might be time for the Americans to go out and play soldier while someone else runs the airport. The Haitian people need all manner of medical supplies today...not next week. ever been involved in a mass casualty event? the logistics are incredible. the 2nd guessers and backbench warmers can sit this one out. Donnie is my best buddy, but he suffers from a severe inferiority complex. It is common among Canadians, Donnie ... Ahh...I see the ID spoofing assholes of rec.boats, aka the flajim crowd, are active already today. Ahh....Is the Harry Krause crowd going to continue to drive away boaters that come here to ask questions and talk about boats? Since I might spend 10 hrs a year boating, why in the world would I want to discuss any boating topic? |
US delaying needed supplies?
Harry Krause wrote:
Harry wrote: Harry wrote: Harry Krause wrote: bpuharic wrote: On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 22:57:52 -0400, "Don White" wrote: We keep hearing complaints that the US military is hogging the main airport with its' one runway for their own purposes (flying in soldiers) rather than letting all the relief planes arrive. Saw a report tonight of a makeshift hospital, a couple hundred feet from the airport, sewing a couple of kids up without anesthetic or other medical supplies. Might be time for the Americans to go out and play soldier while someone else runs the airport. The Haitian people need all manner of medical supplies today...not next week. ever been involved in a mass casualty event? the logistics are incredible. the 2nd guessers and backbench warmers can sit this one out. Donnie is my best buddy, but he suffers from a severe inferiority complex. It is common among Canadians, Donnie ... Ahh...I see the ID spoofing assholes of rec.boats, aka the flajim crowd, are active already today. Ahh....Is the Harry Krause crowd going to continue to drive away boaters that come here to ask questions and talk about boats? Since I might spend 10 hrs a year boating, why in the world would I want to discuss any boating topic? Uh-huh...I think you are talking about Herring Scheisskopf...and Jim, *you* don't have a boat. |
US delaying needed supplies?
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 22:30:59 -0500, lil abner wrote:
Don White wrote: "Harry" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: We keep hearing complaints that the US military is hogging the main airport with its' one runway for their own purposes (flying in soldiers) rather than letting all the relief planes arrive. Saw a report tonight of a makeshift hospital, a couple hundred feet from the airport, sewing a couple of kids up without anesthetic or other medical supplies. Might be time for the Americans to go out and play soldier while someone else runs the airport. The Haitian people need all manner of medical supplies today...not next week. Full employment for the military? Might be. The French and Doctors Without Borders were also complaining about the big bottleneck and the slow pace of getting supplies out where they're needed. Who would run it? The Haitian Officials was apparently still running the airport in some capacity. There is only so much room to land and park. The Chinese held up landings, at one point, while they posed their aircraft and "Workers" for a photo op. There was a msnbc report, I think, that they had more food than they could distribute or store. The Medical needs seem to be huge. It takes time. I think our People are doing a great job. If one is really interested in doing anything besides trashing the USA (liberals, take note), one might look at the Port au Prince map and check out the airport. When doing so, note how many highways go from the airport to downtown. One major road, which is a log jam, as shown on CNN yesterday. The government in Haiti is almost non-existent. But, if I were running things the first thing I'd do is bar all non-essential traffic from the streets. -- John H All decisions are the result of binary thinking. |
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US delaying needed supplies?
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 22:57:52 -0400, "Don White"
wrote: We keep hearing complaints that the US military is hogging the main airport with its' one runway for their own purposes (flying in soldiers) rather than letting all the relief planes arrive. Saw a report tonight of a makeshift hospital, a couple hundred feet from the airport, sewing a couple of kids up without anesthetic or other medical supplies. Might be time for the Americans to go out and play soldier while someone else runs the airport. The Haitian people need all manner of medical supplies today...not next week. Mass casualty events are always difficult to service properly. I particular in these kinds of situations. One runway, no fuel depot and no practical ATC, the only recourse you have is the military and if there is a military that is capable of getting it on track, it's ours - possibly your country as you have a sealift and air capacity that's pretty good. Air support is all well and good, but you can't transport the quantities needed in a situation like this - it has to come by sea or overland. And that takes time. I was involved in the St. Croix efforts after Hurricane Hugo and can tell you from practical experience that it's difficult without ATC. Give credit to the Devil, KV4FZ did yoeman's work controlling air traffic until the military got there to set up. And even then it wasn't easy. Haiti is three/four times worse than the St. Croix. The other part of the problem is that everybody wants to help even if it's not needed. You have an event like this and suddenly you've got every country in the world with an interest rushing in to "help". That just creates chaos. I know when I was involved in urban search and rescue with my dogs, the one thing they tell you is not to rush to the scene - wait to be called and dispatched. The opposite happened here. I'm not saying that mistakes happen - they do. But soldiers are necessary to the effort for a variety of reasons from distributing aid to providing security - and Haitians need some sort of security. Perhaps it's time for Canadians and Americans to declare Haiti a protectorate and get on with the reconstruction - collectively your government and mine has an interest in maintaining order there. |
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Harry Krause wrote:
Harry wrote: Harry wrote: Harry Krause wrote: bpuharic wrote: On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 22:57:52 -0400, "Don White" wrote: We keep hearing complaints that the US military is hogging the main airport with its' one runway for their own purposes (flying in soldiers) rather than letting all the relief planes arrive. Saw a report tonight of a makeshift hospital, a couple hundred feet from the airport, sewing a couple of kids up without anesthetic or other medical supplies. Might be time for the Americans to go out and play soldier while someone else runs the airport. The Haitian people need all manner of medical supplies today...not next week. ever been involved in a mass casualty event? the logistics are incredible. the 2nd guessers and backbench warmers can sit this one out. Donnie is my best buddy, but he suffers from a severe inferiority complex. It is common among Canadians, Donnie ... Ahh...I see the ID spoofing assholes of rec.boats, aka the flajim crowd, are active already today. Ahh....Is the Harry Krause crowd going to continue to drive away boaters that come here to ask questions and talk about boats? Since I might spend 10 hrs a year boating, why in the world would I want to discuss any boating topic? You tell me. Why is Harry Krause here? |
US delaying needed supplies?
Harry wrote:
Harry Krause wrote: Harry wrote: Harry wrote: Harry Krause wrote: bpuharic wrote: On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 22:57:52 -0400, "Don White" wrote: We keep hearing complaints that the US military is hogging the main airport with its' one runway for their own purposes (flying in soldiers) rather than letting all the relief planes arrive. Saw a report tonight of a makeshift hospital, a couple hundred feet from the airport, sewing a couple of kids up without anesthetic or other medical supplies. Might be time for the Americans to go out and play soldier while someone else runs the airport. The Haitian people need all manner of medical supplies today...not next week. ever been involved in a mass casualty event? the logistics are incredible. the 2nd guessers and backbench warmers can sit this one out. Donnie is my best buddy, but he suffers from a severe inferiority complex. It is common among Canadians, Donnie ... Ahh...I see the ID spoofing assholes of rec.boats, aka the flajim crowd, are active already today. Ahh....Is the Harry Krause crowd going to continue to drive away boaters that come here to ask questions and talk about boats? Since I might spend 10 hrs a year boating, why in the world would I want to discuss any boating topic? Uh-huh...I think you are talking about Herring Scheisskopf...and Jim, *you* don't have a boat. When Jim gets a boat, you'll be the first to remind him that he has a boat, no?. Who the Hell is Scheisskoph? Is Hebrew your native tongue? |
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Harry Krause wrote:
Harry Krause wrote: Don White wrote: Well the Halifax newspaper is the ONLY news source reporting all of the "good work" Canada is doing. Actually the rest of the world just let's Canada come down so Canada doesn't feel left out. Sort of like when you have a baby brother, and he wants to play with the big boys. Canada.... everyone's little baby brother. Heck, even BBC has no idea that Canada is even participating in the Haitian relief effort. Actually they are there, just not doing anything worthwhile, but it does give the Halifax newspaper something to print besides the high crime rate. Donnie, do you think it is Halifax's severe alcohol abuse problems or just anti-social behavior of Canadians that is the root of your crime wave? Here is a Canadian new source that hits the nail on the head, it seems that even Canadians realize that your piddling effort sucks. "Over the course of the past decade, Canada's leading officials and most prestigious commentators have learned how to approach Haiti in the spirit of cynical power politics and racist condescension (or worse) while maintaining a posture of national self-flattery. With attention again riveted on Haiti following the horrific tragedy inflicted by Tuesday's earthquake, this ugly mixture is once again on display. The need for emergency aid is, without question, urgent [see below for links]. But established patterns of “help” for Haiti need to be overcome if the destructive impact of this catastrophe is to be somehow limited. Scattered self-congratulations can already be heard in Canada's mainstream press (a willing partner, for the most part, in recent Canadian government crimes against Haiti). On Thursday, papers across the country ran editorials on Canadian policy and the relief effort. Under the title “Helping Haiti,” the Calgary Herald editorialized that “Canada's response is not only appropriate, but one to be proud of. … Once again, Canada's humanitarianism and compassion shines brightly.” The Montreal Gazette concurred: “Canadians have, to their credit, been involved in helping Haiti help itself for years.” For its part, the Globe and Mail yet again cast Haiti as the “basket case of the Western hemisphere,” the editorial headline promising that “Today's rescue is just the beginning.” http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...t=va&aid=17021 |
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Harry Krause wrote:
Harry Krause wrote: Don White wrote: Well the Halifax newspaper is the ONLY news source reporting all of the "good work" Canada is doing. Actually the rest of the world just let's Canada come down so Canada doesn't feel left out. Sort of like when you have a baby brother, and he wants to play with the big boys. Canada.... everyone's little baby brother. Heck, even BBC has no idea that Canada is even participating in the Haitian relief effort. Actually they are there, just not doing anything worthwhile, but it does give the Halifax newspaper something to print besides the high crime rate. Donnie, do you think it is Halifax's severe alcohol abuse problems or just anti-social behavior of Canadians that is the root of your crime wave? Here is a Canadian new source that hits the nail on the head, it seems that even Canadians realize that your piddling effort sucks. "Over the course of the past decade, Canada's leading officials and most prestigious commentators have learned how to approach Haiti in the spirit of cynical power politics and racist condescension (or worse) while maintaining a posture of national self-flattery. With attention again riveted on Haiti following the horrific tragedy inflicted by Tuesday's earthquake, this ugly mixture is once again on display. The need for emergency aid is, without question, urgent [see below for links]. But established patterns of “help” for Haiti need to be overcome if the destructive impact of this catastrophe is to be somehow limited. Scattered self-congratulations can already be heard in Canada's mainstream press (a willing partner, for the most part, in recent Canadian government crimes against Haiti). On Thursday, papers across the country ran editorials on Canadian policy and the relief effort. Under the title “Helping Haiti,” the Calgary Herald editorialized that “Canada's response is not only appropriate, but one to be proud of. … Once again, Canada's humanitarianism and compassion shines brightly.” The Montreal Gazette concurred: “Canadians have, to their credit, been involved in helping Haiti help itself for years.” For its part, the Globe and Mail yet again cast Haiti as the “basket case of the Western hemisphere,” the editorial headline promising that “Today's rescue is just the beginning.” http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...t=va&aid=17021 |
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On Jan 21, 8:46*am, John H wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 22:30:59 -0500, lil abner wrote: Don White wrote: "Harry" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: We keep hearing complaints that the US military is hogging the main airport with its' one runway for their own purposes (flying in soldiers) rather than letting all the relief planes arrive. *Saw a report tonight of a makeshift hospital, a couple hundred feet from the airport, sewing a couple of kids up without anesthetic or other medical supplies. Might be time for the Americans to go out and play soldier while someone else runs the airport. The Haitian people need all manner of medical supplies today...not next week. Full employment for the military? Might be. The French and Doctors Without Borders were also complaining about the big bottleneck and the slow pace of getting supplies out where they're needed. Who would run it? The Haitian Officials was apparently still running the airport in some capacity. There is only so much room to land and park. The Chinese held up landings, at one point, while they posed their aircraft and "Workers" for a photo op. There was a msnbc report, I think, that they had more food than they could distribute or store. The Medical needs seem to be huge. It takes time. I think our People are doing a great job. If one is really interested in doing anything besides trashing the USA (liberals, take note), one might look at the Port au Prince map and check out the airport. When doing so, note how many highways go from the airport to downtown. One major road, which is a log jam, as shown on CNN yesterday. The government in Haiti is almost non-existent. But, if I were running things the first thing I'd do is bar all non-essential traffic from the streets. -- John H All decisions are the result of binary thinking.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Gee, makes you wonder just how in hell those Israelis got those state of the art hospitals set up, doesn't it? |
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Harry wrote:
Harry Krause wrote: Harry wrote: Harry wrote: Harry Krause wrote: bpuharic wrote: On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 22:57:52 -0400, "Don White" wrote: We keep hearing complaints that the US military is hogging the main airport with its' one runway for their own purposes (flying in soldiers) rather than letting all the relief planes arrive. Saw a report tonight of a makeshift hospital, a couple hundred feet from the airport, sewing a couple of kids up without anesthetic or other medical supplies. Might be time for the Americans to go out and play soldier while someone else runs the airport. The Haitian people need all manner of medical supplies today...not next week. ever been involved in a mass casualty event? the logistics are incredible. the 2nd guessers and backbench warmers can sit this one out. Donnie is my best buddy, but he suffers from a severe inferiority complex. It is common among Canadians, Donnie ... Ahh...I see the ID spoofing assholes of rec.boats, aka the flajim crowd, are active already today. Ahh....Is the Harry Krause crowd going to continue to drive away boaters that come here to ask questions and talk about boats? Since I might spend 10 hrs a year boating, why in the world would I want to discuss any boating topic? You tell me. Why is Harry Krause here? I don't have much of a life. I am morbidly obese. I have a nice small boat, but I can't get anyone to go boating with me. If it wasn't for rec.boats, I wouldn't have anything to do. Even my wife is grossed out by my morbid obesity and has banished me to the basement. |
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On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 06:31:37 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker
wrote: On Jan 21, 8:46*am, John H wrote: On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 22:30:59 -0500, lil abner wrote: Don White wrote: "Harry" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: We keep hearing complaints that the US military is hogging the main airport with its' one runway for their own purposes (flying in soldiers) rather than letting all the relief planes arrive. *Saw a report tonight of a makeshift hospital, a couple hundred feet from the airport, sewing a couple of kids up without anesthetic or other medical supplies. Might be time for the Americans to go out and play soldier while someone else runs the airport. The Haitian people need all manner of medical supplies today...not next week. Full employment for the military? Might be. The French and Doctors Without Borders were also complaining about the big bottleneck and the slow pace of getting supplies out where they're needed. Who would run it? The Haitian Officials was apparently still running the airport in some capacity. There is only so much room to land and park. The Chinese held up landings, at one point, while they posed their aircraft and "Workers" for a photo op. There was a msnbc report, I think, that they had more food than they could distribute or store. The Medical needs seem to be huge. It takes time. I think our People are doing a great job. If one is really interested in doing anything besides trashing the USA (liberals, take note), one might look at the Port au Prince map and check out the airport. When doing so, note how many highways go from the airport to downtown. One major road, which is a log jam, as shown on CNN yesterday. The government in Haiti is almost non-existent. But, if I were running things the first thing I'd do is bar all non-essential traffic from the streets. -- John H All decisions are the result of binary thinking.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Gee, makes you wonder just how in hell those Israelis got those state of the art hospitals set up, doesn't it? The Israelis have always been capable of magical feats. Just look at the Six-day War. That was magic. They have their act together. I believe if the USA would limit its aid to two airplanes full of people and equipment, it could also have done a very fast job. Obama should get right on the phone to Israel and ask them how to get things done properly. He's going to lose a lot more liberal detractors if he doesn't. It must be a bitch having to complain about the USA when your own president is a Democrat. -- John H All decisions are the result of binary thinking. |
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Harry Krause wrote:
Harry wrote: Harry Krause wrote: Harry wrote: Harry wrote: Harry Krause wrote: bpuharic wrote: On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 22:57:52 -0400, "Don White" wrote: We keep hearing complaints that the US military is hogging the main airport with its' one runway for their own purposes (flying in soldiers) rather than letting all the relief planes arrive. Saw a report tonight of a makeshift hospital, a couple hundred feet from the airport, sewing a couple of kids up without anesthetic or other medical supplies. Might be time for the Americans to go out and play soldier while someone else runs the airport. The Haitian people need all manner of medical supplies today...not next week. ever been involved in a mass casualty event? the logistics are incredible. the 2nd guessers and backbench warmers can sit this one out. Donnie is my best buddy, but he suffers from a severe inferiority complex. It is common among Canadians, Donnie ... Ahh...I see the ID spoofing assholes of rec.boats, aka the flajim crowd, are active already today. Ahh....Is the Harry Krause crowd going to continue to drive away boaters that come here to ask questions and talk about boats? Since I might spend 10 hrs a year boating, why in the world would I want to discuss any boating topic? You tell me. Why is Harry Krause here? I don't have much of a life. I am morbidly obese. I have a nice small boat, but I can't get anyone to go boating with me. If it wasn't for rec.boats, I wouldn't have anything to do. Even my wife is grossed out by my morbid obesity and has banished me to the basement. Thanks for being candid with us, Harry. |
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Harry wrote:
Harry Krause wrote: Harry wrote: Harry Krause wrote: Harry wrote: Harry wrote: Harry Krause wrote: bpuharic wrote: On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 22:57:52 -0400, "Don White" wrote: We keep hearing complaints that the US military is hogging the main airport with its' one runway for their own purposes (flying in soldiers) rather than letting all the relief planes arrive. Saw a report tonight of a makeshift hospital, a couple hundred feet from the airport, sewing a couple of kids up without anesthetic or other medical supplies. Might be time for the Americans to go out and play soldier while someone else runs the airport. The Haitian people need all manner of medical supplies today...not next week. ever been involved in a mass casualty event? the logistics are incredible. the 2nd guessers and backbench warmers can sit this one out. Donnie is my best buddy, but he suffers from a severe inferiority complex. It is common among Canadians, Donnie ... Ahh...I see the ID spoofing assholes of rec.boats, aka the flajim crowd, are active already today. Ahh....Is the Harry Krause crowd going to continue to drive away boaters that come here to ask questions and talk about boats? Since I might spend 10 hrs a year boating, why in the world would I want to discuss any boating topic? You tell me. Why is Harry Krause here? I don't have much of a life. I am morbidly obese. I have a nice small boat, but I can't get anyone to go boating with me. If it wasn't for rec.boats, I wouldn't have anything to do. Even my wife is grossed out by my morbid obesity and has banished me to the basement. Thanks for being candid with us, Harry. Harry Krause is always honest, trustworthy, fair and upstanding. Did I ever tell you about my young bride? She could suck the chrome off a trailer hitch. |
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Harry Krause wrote:
Harry wrote: Harry Krause wrote: Harry wrote: Harry Krause wrote: Harry wrote: Harry wrote: Harry Krause wrote: bpuharic wrote: On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 22:57:52 -0400, "Don White" wrote: We keep hearing complaints that the US military is hogging the main airport with its' one runway for their own purposes (flying in soldiers) rather than letting all the relief planes arrive. Saw a report tonight of a makeshift hospital, a couple hundred feet from the airport, sewing a couple of kids up without anesthetic or other medical supplies. Might be time for the Americans to go out and play soldier while someone else runs the airport. The Haitian people need all manner of medical supplies today...not next week. ever been involved in a mass casualty event? the logistics are incredible. the 2nd guessers and backbench warmers can sit this one out. Donnie is my best buddy, but he suffers from a severe inferiority complex. It is common among Canadians, Donnie ... Ahh...I see the ID spoofing assholes of rec.boats, aka the flajim crowd, are active already today. Ahh....Is the Harry Krause crowd going to continue to drive away boaters that come here to ask questions and talk about boats? Since I might spend 10 hrs a year boating, why in the world would I want to discuss any boating topic? You tell me. Why is Harry Krause here? I don't have much of a life. I am morbidly obese. I have a nice small boat, but I can't get anyone to go boating with me. If it wasn't for rec.boats, I wouldn't have anything to do. Even my wife is grossed out by my morbid obesity and has banished me to the basement. Thanks for being candid with us, Harry. Harry Krause is always honest, trustworthy, fair and upstanding. Did I ever tell you about my young bride? She could suck the chrome off a trailer hitch. You're on a roll. Let it all hang out. Woo Hoo |
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On Jan 20, 8:57*pm, "Don White" wrote:
We keep hearing complaints that the US military is hogging the main airport with its' one runway for their own purposes (flying in soldiers) rather than letting all the relief planes arrive. *Saw a report tonight of a makeshift hospital, a couple hundred feet from the airport, sewing a couple of kids up without anesthetic or other medical supplies. Might be time for the Americans to go out and play soldier while someone else runs the airport. The Haitian people need all manner of medical supplies today...not next week. Don, I really think tha in this type of a situation the old saying still applies: "Too many chief's and not enough indians" Well, maybe not. "Too many chief's and way too many indians" would probably be more ike it. So many rushing in to do a lot of good stuff, but even the relief workers are getting in each others way. Everybody has an idea of how it should be done.And when that happens you have an unorganized effort. It will get straightened out though. Or that's what im hopeing for. |
US delaying needed supplies?
On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 08:01:58 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote: On Jan 20, 8:57*pm, "Don White" wrote: We keep hearing complaints that the US military is hogging the main airport with its' one runway for their own purposes (flying in soldiers) rather than letting all the relief planes arrive. *Saw a report tonight of a makeshift hospital, a couple hundred feet from the airport, sewing a couple of kids up without anesthetic or other medical supplies. Might be time for the Americans to go out and play soldier while someone else runs the airport. The Haitian people need all manner of medical supplies today...not next week. Don, I really think tha in this type of a situation the old saying still applies: "Too many chief's and not enough indians" Well, maybe not. "Too many chief's and way too many indians" would probably be more ike it. So many rushing in to do a lot of good stuff, but even the relief workers are getting in each others way. Everybody has an idea of how it should be done.And when that happens you have an unorganized effort. It will get straightened out though. Or that's what im hopeing for. Every single news show on television is showing great things being done by Americans in Haiti. For some reason, liberals will key on only the negative aspects of the issue. Why they feel such a need to put down this country is totally beyond me. And the other side of the coin is this: If it is screwed up, it's OBAMA'S FRIGGIN' FAULT! Now, I'm going to go hop on a treadmill and read my book. Hurt my neck playing golf, so have to lay off for a few days. Getting old sucks. -- John H All decisions are the result of binary thinking. |
US delaying needed supplies?
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US delaying needed supplies?
"Tim" wrote in message ... On Jan 20, 8:57 pm, "Don White" wrote: We keep hearing complaints that the US military is hogging the main airport with its' one runway for their own purposes (flying in soldiers) rather than letting all the relief planes arrive. Saw a report tonight of a makeshift hospital, a couple hundred feet from the airport, sewing a couple of kids up without anesthetic or other medical supplies. Might be time for the Americans to go out and play soldier while someone else runs the airport. The Haitian people need all manner of medical supplies today...not next week. Don, I really think tha in this type of a situation the old saying still applies: "Too many chief's and not enough indians" Well, maybe not. "Too many chief's and way too many indians" would probably be more ike it. So many rushing in to do a lot of good stuff, but even the relief workers are getting in each others way. Everybody has an idea of how it should be done.And when that happens you have an unorganized effort. It will get straightened out though. Or that's what im hopeing for. reply: My SIL is in law enforcement. His jurisdiction sent a contingent to aid after Katrina. He had some interesting stories when he came back. Upon arrival, he was given a $300 sleeping bag, which was too warm to sleep in. He slept in a light shirt with a thin blanket instead. He was given cases of MREs, which he demonstrated to us. They were fed in a kitchen of a church they barracked at, and a professional cook prepared their meals. The MREs are not bad if it's all you have to eat. He said there were so many people there that all they did was ride around all day, and talk to people who stayed in their homes, and who were guarding their property. They drove 1800 miles one way in a 20 vehicle convoy, taking all manner of field equipment, which was never used. He came back with lots of "goodies" he was given for free, including a pair of Steiner binoculars. He said he got terribly bored after a week, but they had obligated for two weeks. There were so many layers of management that they had to go through that they couldn't get anything approved in the two weeks they were there, and one could not take it upon themselves to make a decision without approval from higher ups. Sounds like Haiti all over again. Steve |
US delaying needed supplies?
"John H" wrote in message ... On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 08:01:58 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Jan 20, 8:57 pm, "Don White" wrote: We keep hearing complaints that the US military is hogging the main airport with its' one runway for their own purposes (flying in soldiers) rather than letting all the relief planes arrive. Saw a report tonight of a makeshift hospital, a couple hundred feet from the airport, sewing a couple of kids up without anesthetic or other medical supplies. Might be time for the Americans to go out and play soldier while someone else runs the airport. The Haitian people need all manner of medical supplies today...not next week. Don, I really think tha in this type of a situation the old saying still applies: "Too many chief's and not enough indians" Well, maybe not. "Too many chief's and way too many indians" would probably be more ike it. So many rushing in to do a lot of good stuff, but even the relief workers are getting in each others way. Everybody has an idea of how it should be done.And when that happens you have an unorganized effort. It will get straightened out though. Or that's what im hopeing for. Every single news show on television is showing great things being done by Americans in Haiti. For some reason, liberals will key on only the negative aspects of the issue. Why they feel such a need to put down this country is totally beyond me. And the other side of the coin is this: If it is screwed up, it's OBAMA'S FRIGGIN' FAULT! Now, I'm going to go hop on a treadmill and read my book. Hurt my neck playing golf, so have to lay off for a few days. Getting old sucks. -- John H All decisions are the result of binary thinking. You dolt! You must be the only one who doesn't know that it was all caused by George Bush. Even the weather. Didn't you listen to Danny Glover? Sheesh! Steve ;-) |
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US delaying needed supplies?
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US delaying needed supplies?
On Jan 21, 10:13*am, John H wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 08:01:58 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Jan 20, 8:57*pm, "Don White" wrote: We keep hearing complaints that the US military is hogging the main airport with its' one runway for their own purposes (flying in soldiers) rather than letting all the relief planes arrive. *Saw a report tonight of a makeshift hospital, a couple hundred feet from the airport, sewing a couple of kids up without anesthetic or other medical supplies. Might be time for the Americans to go out and play soldier while someone else runs the airport. The Haitian people need all manner of medical supplies today...not next week. Don, I really think tha in this type of a situation the old saying still applies: "Too many chief's and not enough indians" Well, maybe not. "Too many chief's and way too many indians" would probably be more ike it. So many rushing in to do a lot of good stuff, but even the relief workers are getting in each others way. * Everybody has an idea of how it should be done.And when that happens you have an unorganized effort. It will get straightened out though. Or that's what im hopeing for. Every single news show on television is showing great things being done by Americans in Haiti. For some reason, liberals will key on only the negative aspects of the issue. Why they feel such a need to put down this country is totally beyond me. And the other side of the coin is this: If it is screwed up, it's OBAMA'S FRIGGIN' FAULT! Awwww John! |
US delaying needed supplies?
On Jan 21, 8:17*am, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote: On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 22:57:52 -0400, "Don White" wrote: We keep hearing complaints that the US military is hogging the main airport with its' one runway for their own purposes (flying in soldiers) rather than letting all the relief planes arrive. *Saw a report tonight of a makeshift hospital, a couple hundred feet from the airport, sewing a couple of kids up without anesthetic or other medical supplies. Might be time for the Americans to go out and play soldier while someone else runs the airport. The Haitian people need all manner of medical supplies today...not next week. Mass casualty events are always difficult to service properly. *I particular in these kinds of situations. *One runway, no fuel depot and no practical ATC, the only recourse you have is the military and if there is a military that is capable of getting it on track, it's ours - possibly your country as you have a sealift and air capacity that's pretty good. Air support is all well and good, but you can't transport the quantities needed in a situation like this - it has to come by sea or overland. And that takes time. *I was involved in the St. Croix efforts after Hurricane Hugo and can tell you from practical experience that it's difficult without ATC. *Give credit to the Devil, KV4FZ did yoeman's work controlling air traffic until the military got there to set up. *And even then it wasn't easy. *Haiti is three/four times worse than the St. Croix. The other part of the problem is that everybody wants to help even if it's not needed. *You have an event like this and suddenly you've got every country in the world with an interest rushing in to "help". That just creates chaos. *I know when I was involved in urban search and rescue with my dogs, the one thing they tell you is not to rush to the scene - wait to be called and dispatched. *The opposite happened here. I'm not saying that mistakes happen - they do. *But soldiers are necessary to the effort for a variety of reasons from distributing aid to providing security - and Haitians need some sort of security. Perhaps it's time for Canadians and Americans to declare Haiti a protectorate and get on with the reconstruction - collectively your government and mine has an interest in maintaining order there. Good thoughts, Tom. |
US delaying needed supplies?
"John H" wrote in message ... On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 08:01:58 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Jan 20, 8:57 pm, "Don White" wrote: We keep hearing complaints that the US military is hogging the main airport with its' one runway for their own purposes (flying in soldiers) rather than letting all the relief planes arrive. Saw a report tonight of a makeshift hospital, a couple hundred feet from the airport, sewing a couple of kids up without anesthetic or other medical supplies. Might be time for the Americans to go out and play soldier while someone else runs the airport. The Haitian people need all manner of medical supplies today...not next week. Don, I really think tha in this type of a situation the old saying still applies: "Too many chief's and not enough indians" Well, maybe not. "Too many chief's and way too many indians" would probably be more ike it. So many rushing in to do a lot of good stuff, but even the relief workers are getting in each others way. Everybody has an idea of how it should be done.And when that happens you have an unorganized effort. It will get straightened out though. Or that's what im hopeing for. Every single news show on television is showing great things being done by Americans in Haiti. For some reason, liberals will key on only the negative aspects of the issue. Why they feel such a need to put down this country is totally beyond me. And the other side of the coin is this: If it is screwed up, it's OBAMA'S FRIGGIN' FAULT! Now, I'm going to go hop on a treadmill and read my book. Hurt my neck playing golf, so have to lay off for a few days. Getting old sucks. -- John H Word of advice...keep your focus forward in the locker room. Your neck will thank you. |
US delaying needed supplies?
"Steve B" wrote in message ... "Tim" wrote in message ... On Jan 20, 8:57 pm, "Don White" wrote: We keep hearing complaints that the US military is hogging the main airport with its' one runway for their own purposes (flying in soldiers) rather than letting all the relief planes arrive. Saw a report tonight of a makeshift hospital, a couple hundred feet from the airport, sewing a couple of kids up without anesthetic or other medical supplies. Might be time for the Americans to go out and play soldier while someone else runs the airport. The Haitian people need all manner of medical supplies today...not next week. Don, I really think tha in this type of a situation the old saying still applies: "Too many chief's and not enough indians" Well, maybe not. "Too many chief's and way too many indians" would probably be more ike it. So many rushing in to do a lot of good stuff, but even the relief workers are getting in each others way. Everybody has an idea of how it should be done.And when that happens you have an unorganized effort. It will get straightened out though. Or that's what im hopeing for. reply: My SIL is in law enforcement. His jurisdiction sent a contingent to aid after Katrina. He had some interesting stories when he came back. Upon arrival, he was given a $300 sleeping bag, which was too warm to sleep in. He slept in a light shirt with a thin blanket instead. He was given cases of MREs, which he demonstrated to us. They were fed in a kitchen of a church they barracked at, and a professional cook prepared their meals. The MREs are not bad if it's all you have to eat. He said there were so many people there that all they did was ride around all day, and talk to people who stayed in their homes, and who were guarding their property. They drove 1800 miles one way in a 20 vehicle convoy, taking all manner of field equipment, which was never used. He came back with lots of "goodies" he was given for free, including a pair of Steiner binoculars. He said he got terribly bored after a week, but they had obligated for two weeks. There were so many layers of management that they had to go through that they couldn't get anything approved in the two weeks they were there, and one could not take it upon themselves to make a decision without approval from higher ups. Sounds like Haiti all over again. Steve 1800 miles one way?? Just how big is the state of Louisiana? |
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US delaying needed supplies?
Harry Krause wrote:
I am Tosk wrote: It's funny as hell! Scotty When you suffer from an inferiority complex, you have to compensate in some manner. I am trying to get Bonnie to own some handguns to compensate for his little dick complex. Speaking of little dicks, flajim*, you do realize that if yours were bigger and still worked, your wife might not be cruising the produce aisles, looking for bumpy cucumbers and zucchini. * *All* the right-wing ID spoofers are flajim, whether they are or not. Flajim in a moment of sobriety admitted to being an ID spoofer here. |
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Harry wrote:
Harry Krause wrote: I am Tosk wrote: It's funny as hell! Scotty When you suffer from an inferiority complex, you have to compensate in some manner. I am trying to get Bonnie to own some handguns to compensate for his little dick complex. Speaking of little dicks, flajim*, you do realize that if yours were bigger and still worked, your wife might not be cruising the produce aisles, looking for bumpy cucumbers and zucchini. * *All* the right-wing ID spoofers are flajim, whether they are or not. Flajim in a moment of sobriety admitted to being an ID spoofer here. Big Buddy, I must have missed that one. Show me. BTW There is so much excellent spoofing going on, no one can tell the difference between the real Harry and WAFA. I heard Hussein Obama hasn't cracked a smile since January 19. Is that true? |
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Harry wrote:
Harry wrote: Harry Krause wrote: I am Tosk wrote: It's funny as hell! Scotty When you suffer from an inferiority complex, you have to compensate in some manner. I am trying to get Bonnie to own some handguns to compensate for his little dick complex. Speaking of little dicks, flajim*, you do realize that if yours were bigger and still worked, your wife might not be cruising the produce aisles, looking for bumpy cucumbers and zucchini. * *All* the right-wing ID spoofers are flajim, whether they are or not. Flajim in a moment of sobriety admitted to being an ID spoofer here. Big Buddy, I must have missed that one. Show me. BTW There is so much excellent spoofing going on, no one can tell the difference between the real Harry and WAFA. I heard Hussein Obama hasn't cracked a smile since January 19. Is that true? Awwwww...da widdle ID spoofer wants to be "shown." Take it up with the flajim's, **** for brains. |
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